[WC3 - DotS] General discussion thread I

[BallerSupreme]

hey chums
so apparently a trojan or virus has messed up the windows side on my macbook (can't even boot in safe mode anymore) so I won't be around til later this week.

on the bright side, it's a good excuse to make our hamachi network the same as the channel's name.

[Helepolis]

orz Panda. Stop downloading Touhou porn. We know you like panda Meiling, but you shouldn't be doing that.

Also changelog for 0.951d from the official site:

- 修复河童阳电子炮伤害错误BUG
- 一些树林细节问题
- 远程小兵攻击模式为魔法的bug（改为穿刺）
- 塔生命值下调300 传送点3000血 4点生命恢复 老家6000血降低为30防御8点回血
- 秋穰子 苹果生命恢复百分比 5 10 15 20 力量光环变为6 9 12
- 觉力量成长2.0
- 叫兽卷轴550->350
- 闪光小盒子卷轴200->150 召唤的萌物700血
- 秋姐04 使用间隔60秒 敏捷加成为 7 14 21 28
- 购买物品间隔下降到1秒。
- 修复虫子召唤甲虫一下召唤2个的BUG，小甲虫模型变小。
- 空的核弹伤害类型变为 绝对伤害（英雄攻击 通用伤害）（无视魔免无视魔抗无视护甲但无法伤害虚无

[Pesco]

SWEET POTATERS AND APPLES!!

Hakurei

Pesco - Minoriko
Sodium - Letty
Kitten4u - Yukari (gg )

Moriya

Rizock - Tenshi
Hero - Iku
Valentia - Eirin

[Helepolis]

0.494c ENGLISH ( but we all know 0.949c sucks now, except for the map.

http://www.mediafire.com/?qyqx5at8ih1x1vt


0.952b Chinese

0.951d->0.952b更新：
- 平衡常数：
  力量
  生命 17->19
  回复0.04->0.03
  敏捷
  攻击速度0.012->0.010
  敏捷防御0.18->0.14
  智力
  魔法值18->15
  魔法恢复0.03->0.04
（大家开始出蘑菇派吧）

- 按下ESC键可以快速发布最近发布的表情
- 修复石头路不能走BUG
- SS神石攻击力及攻击模式调整
- 修改了小兵行进路线现在外兵营的小兵将走中路
- 地形再次微调，修改了一个野点位置，一些视野问题
- 修复妹红死了不掉钱BUG
- 商店购买距离上升
- 守矢修理工体积下降
- 兵营塔2000血建筑包括玄爷之魂都20防御（通过血来调整）
- 雾雨回魔变从每秒6点->3点，小雪减速从15%->20%
- 神符加强了增益性神符时间从20秒->60秒（恢复共持续恢复1000生命1000魔无法打断）
- 四季映姬移动速度从275->300，审判「Guilty or not Guilty」 施法距离300/400/500/600->400/500/600/700
- 河城荷取动力「幻想乡推进器」魔耗从120->100点，持续时间从3/4/5/6->3/3.5/4/4.5 ，机械「全天候幻想浮游炮」伤害宽度从160->120，尝试修复了有时不开炮问题(大概)
- 秋穰子焼芋「Sweet Potato Room」 魔耗从50->75，回血从150/200/250/300->100/150/200/250，回魔150/200/250 /300->110 /130/150/170，小车自己改成不回血，豊符「丰年收获者」力量光环从6/9/12->8/12/16
- 秋静叶「八百万的红叶神」敏捷加成从7/14/21/28->10/15/20/25
- 蜜丝缇雅．罗蕾菈攻击间隔1.5 ，声符「枭の夜鸣声」 冷却时间从12秒->10秒，沉默时间从2/2/3/3->2.5/3/3.5/4秒，鸟符「神秘之歌」攻击速度提升从15/20/25 /30%->20/30/40/50%，移动速度提升15/20/25/30%->1020/30/40%，夜盲「夜雀之歌」魔耗从150 /175/200->150，冷却时间从25秒->20秒
- 露米亚死亡时，将损失30%额外增加的力量
- 修正了红美铃极彩「彩光乱舞」的免伤bug。 （试试看中国会不会太弱）
- 射命丸文风符「风神一扇」减速从24%->15%，文文新闻伤害从9/18/40/65->10/25/40/55
- 西行寺幽幽子基础攻击从35->55，「反魂蝶」引导时间从2.5->2秒，魔耗从200/325/550->180/300/420
- 火焰猫燐妖怪「火焔の车轮」 每装载一个尸体，攻击速度会提高15%，移动速度提高6%，每秒生命恢复会提高3点，火焰车攻击间隔2秒，移动速度350
- 修复了娜之琳摆子探测不显示的bug 且老鼠摆子会以特别颜色标识出敌方少女
- ⑨ 冻符「完美结冻」引导时间从0.5->0.2秒
- 藤原妹红不灭「不死鸟の尾」重生时间从7/5/4/3->7/6/5/4
- 古明地恋「地底的蔷薇」魔法消耗从300->200/250/300
- 小野冢 小町 魂爆改为魔法伤害
- 星雄勇仪力业「大江山岚」顶飞几率从5/7/9/11%->6/9/12/15%
- 键山雏创符「流刑人形」可以对满血放了
- 修改了一下蓬莱山辉夜「永夜返し-世明け-」，尝试修复有时不复活BUG
- 修复十六夜咲夜「咲夜的世界」减速效果
- 山女蜘蛛「石窟の蜘蛛の巣」施法距离从200->400，瘴気「原因不明の热病」持续时间从75秒->55秒
- 馒头视野降低
- 气球技能持续时间12->6秒，开启从5->10点护甲，减速效果持续4->2秒，卷轴从600->800
- lbmbp的回老家结婚（馒头刀） 消除+8属性，攻击力从28->15
- 闪光小箱子 卷轴从150->50
- 替身人偶攻击从24->30，智力从16->20，每秒生命恢复从5点->8点，法力恢复从150%->200%，持续时间从5 秒->7秒，冷却时间从21秒->20秒
- 叫兽 攻击削弱从30%->40%
- 寂寞力量从48->50，新加每秒8点生命恢复
- 八卦炉冷却时间从40秒->30秒
- 博丽护符+8点每秒生命恢复 150%回魔
- 宴会食品篮每秒生命恢复从5点->8点，法力恢复从120%->150%
- 博丽夏祭宴会招待券全属性从3->5，每秒生命恢复光环从3点->5点，新加魔法恢复速度100%
- 蘑菇系列 主属性从3->4
- 鸭舌帽 每秒生命恢复从3点->5点
- ZUN眼镜 每秒生命恢复速度3点->5点
- 详细了狐狸的文字描述
- 魔法使的帽子可以对自己用

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I convinced a friend of mine who normally refuses to touch touhou-related stuff to play the english version of this.
We both fail at it.
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[BallerSupreme]

join our exciting irc channel at #DotS-Meido on irc.dejatoons.net:6667, where helepolis will bathe you in his charisma! I promise it's much more fun than 1v1s, regardless of how well you play.


new server is irc.ppirc.net:6667

[Helepolis]

Hime can you translate Nitori skills please so I can put them on the wiki =3

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[communist unity (comm-unity)]

kaguya is op plz nerf  :getdown:

Backdooring Hacker Rays

Kaguya - headcrabs
Reisen - Kitten4u
Kogasa - Sodium
Mystia - panda

More Ears Shrine Conspiracy

Tenshi - rizock
Medicine - Pesco
Momiji - Sayu
Satori - shadowbringer
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[Pesco]

An amusing one just because of how it went

[trancehime]

Hello

I played some games with the Google (oh they still gave it that filter, you know what I mean) people

They're not really bad people to talk to, I guess. I won't straddle you with the details of the games, just see for yourself.

In the games, my name is tm.ListyLen.

Mobility Research "Fantasy Phase Mechanism (R)" - [D]
Nitori uses the power of 'Fantasy Phase Mechanism' to grant her maximum move speed, zero collision, and deals damage to enemies she passes through. It has a chance to critical for 1.5x damage.

Mana Cost: 100
Cooldown: 16s

Lv1 - 3.0s duration
Lv2 - 3.5s duration
Lv3 - 4.0s duration
Lv4 - 4.5s duration

Ray Research "Solar Ray Cannon CUCUMBER. II" [F]
The 'Solar Ray Cannon CUCUMBER. II' utilizes energy from 'Youkai Cucumber Plasma (R)' wherein it consumes a cucumber to shoot a giant laser beam WHACHA
Explanation: You need to put cucumbers in Nitori's SECONDARY INVENTORY for this skill to work. It has a range of about... I don't know, 2000? And it deals a slow to targets that are hit by it. It also hits buildings and you can target the ground, it shoots in a perfectly straight line and pierces

Chemistry Research "Lightspeed Sword Reaction" [R] PASSIVE
Every time Nitori attacks, enemies in a 300 radius around the point of attack will get dealt some cleave damage. This damage is always fixed depending on the level of the skill.

Lv1 - 50 damage
Lv2 - 75 damage
Lv3 - 100 damage
Lv4 - 125 damage

Machination Research "Sky-covering Fantasy Funnels" [W]
Shooting the special Kappa-engineered "Sky-covering Fantasy Funnels (R)," funnels are distributed at 0.25s, each funnel attack has a 1s cooldown, and the duration is 7 seconds before the funnels return to Nitori. The range of the funnels themselves is 600, attack at 120 degrees and deal 50 damage each.

Mana Cost: 150/200/250
Cooldown: 40s
Cast Range: 800

Lv1 - Shoot 2 funnels
Lv2 - Shoot 4 funnels
Lv3 - Shoot 6 funnels

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[Helepolis]

Ace Hime. Wiki updated.


Edit - - - - -

We managed to get a mixed game running with several people from DS forums. This way we can perhaps have more fresh blood and now and then some healthy competition.  I got a replay of a game where I betrayed Pesco and Panda :V will post it later on.

[Hieda no Alice]

Hello ladies and gentlemen

I'm a random lurker and got interests with this game

I tried playing this with some friends and it's kinda fun

I wanna join you guys in Hamachi but it's full so i decided to post here

So, where do you guys usually play? And how can i play with you guys? ( I play with my friends via LAN so idk how to play online)

Sorry for bad english

[Helepolis]

Hello ladies and gentlemen

I'm a random lurker and got interests with this game

I tried playing this with some friends and it's kinda fun

I wanna join you guys in Hamachi but it's full so i decided to post here

So, where do you guys usually play? And how can i play with you guys? ( I play with my friends via LAN so idk how to play online)

Sorry for bad english

I noticed your name on the DS forums as well. Welcome.  Yes, our Hamachi channel is a bit full, but we got several solutions for that (like multiple channels :V)

We mostly hang around on ppIRC and time zones differ between GMT minus to GMT plus. Mostly around 15:00 or 19:00 GMT ( I think ) we got games going on.

[Hieda no Alice]

So what is the other channels?

and irc too :V

ahh i saw that irc above, sorry

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

and irc too :V

join our exciting irc channel at #DotS-Meido on irc.dejatoons.net:6667, where helepolis will bathe you in his charisma! I promise it's much more fun than 1v1s, regardless of how well you play.


new server is irc.ppirc.net:6667

[trancehime]

OP finally updated with pertinent informations...

[Helepolis]

OP finally updated with pertinent informations...

* Helepolis brofists Hime

Edit:   All Hakurei heroes on Wiki. LONG LIVE HAKUREI. (will try to contribute along with other people who did for Moriya)

[Nat Tea]

Hey Hime, do you think you can provide a translation for 952 weather?

It's in the middle of the map, that shiny rock thing.

[BallerSupreme]

this is for .949 weather. the values were changed a bit for some of them I think, but you can figure out the values just by looking at the numbers on the tooltip in game.

From left to right, top to bottom
Drizzle - 8 mp regen/sec for 80 secs
Scarlet Mist - 15% lifesteal for 80 secs
River Mist - 25 sec invis (not sure what the fade time is)
East Rain - -8hp/sec, 60 secs
Spring Haze - +5000 armor, 25 secs
Typhoon - 35% increased attack power, 60 secs
Snow - 15% slow, 60 secs

Also, I think it's reasonable if we ban certain effects (River Mist and Spring Haze for instance) at the request of players in our casual games.

[Pesco]

I don't really think banning weather effects is necessary. You can counterspam them so that they go into cooldown and the other team can't get off the one they want. Or just regard them as map features like juke points, use them if you have the skill to.

[BallerSupreme]

I agree with you Pesco, and I'd like for us to incorporate weather as much as possible into our games, but some people just don't seem to like it in casual games. The skill required to deal with it is a bit higher than the skill required to use them sensibly, and our casual games aren't srsbsns, so I think it's reasonable if someone requests no weather.

I think it mostly stems from how difficult it is to avoid losing rax/towers against a good pushing team in spring haze if your team didn't want to play any magic users. While in a real game, it's your team's fault for taking a combination of heroes without considering the consequences, in our casual games I think it's not fun for people to be punished for playing what heroes they wanted to play (or randomed).

Of course it also has to do with how we never used weather effects (except for headcrabs) until very recently. Personally I find them extremely fair, but I think everyone enjoying themselves is more important. The same goes with stun bombing. We should discuss beforehand if we'll play with them or not.

anyway sorry for abusing spring haze last night, as well as bding the shrine whoever was in that game last night. I was indeed Patchouli.

[trancehime]

The problem with Weather is that it can be an instant game-changer under the right circumstances.

In games where people are playing casually, this is a very huge deal because it completely ruins the fun for them.

[Helepolis]

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Defence_of_The_Shrines:_Weather_effects

I added all weathers and icons and tested out the effect in game. Think I got the effects right, except for the names. Feel free to modify though Trancehime. Because you are the only one who can :V

Edit: orz . . . I should have checked this thread sooner. So I didn't had to waste my time on the effects because Panda posted them.

anyway sorry for abusing spring haze last night, as well as bding the shrine whoever was in that game last night. I was indeed Patchouli.

You were Ran, the chaos and death in a female form. You know, the 9 tails thing. I was Patchouli, MUCK YOU.


Ok so we banned weathers for good now from casual games unless it is agreed on?

[BallerSupreme]

nice

I suggest lumping weather effects and the various faith effects into one page (there actually is one in the misc section atm, but it has quite a few errors in it, and I think a Faith effects section would make more sense anyway)
or maybe just putting it under gameplay?

and also i fixed up the names for you. i like the names you put for some of the icons

[Helepolis]

Thanks and I noticed yea. Probably will take some more screenshots of the tower icons, shrine skill icons.

Now it is time to go to work to earn moni for my ojousama

[BallerSupreme]

anyone feel like scheduling some games this weekend? I've been busy with classes and work this week, and I haven't really gotten a chance to hang around.

[Pesco]

Jerks at full power

[Helepolis]

This weekend - Saturday and Sunday we need some classic DOTS with Hime. Because we can barely play with him.

Aprox 13:00 GMT+1 is for Hime prime time to be online :V So be there for 4vs4 else get gungnired.

[Pesco]

I'll try, but might need to do work.

[Helepolis]

I'll try, but might need to do work.

You always say that but never actually do work :V

(I got homework my self as well so yea)