Author Topic: Black Stories ~ Touhou Edition - Case 20: Down to the bottom of Misty Lake!  (Read 70464 times)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #690 on: February 06, 2010, 09:29:56 AM »
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I can assume that one of the guys killed the other, and than killed himself, so if that's the case, I will try to find out why!

Eh?


Wait, no, wrong!




Okay, let me try to get the situation straight again, some answers have obviously been confusing.


I'll be more clear about the deaths of the two men.


One killed himself. Kilga's definition of murder before included 'intentional self-inflicted death', so suicide did fall into it as well, as far as I understood it.


The second man died for other reasons, and was not killed by the first man.


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Did these two men hate eachother?

Did they consider eachother Rivals?

was it a murder/scuiside pact?

did the other man killhimself out of guilt, or anything like that?

So, for the rest of your questions, I'll have to say

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #691 on: February 06, 2010, 10:06:41 AM »
That looks like a GO board you're handling.

Other than the 2 man, was anyone else involved?

Is the past of any importance?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #692 on: February 06, 2010, 03:34:19 PM »
Are they extremely old?

Did one have a horrific disease, such as cancer?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #693 on: February 06, 2010, 09:16:14 PM »
Was there anyone around them when they died. As in, when the first man committed suicide was there anybody besides his opponent in the area.

Was there anything unusual about the chess pieces themselves? Were they in any sort of unorthodox shape? Did they resemble something else besides standard chess pieces?

Was there anything more then just a chess board, revolver, and chess pieces in their immediate grasp?

Was the suicide intentional?

Is the area in which they played their chest game important to the case?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #694 on: February 06, 2010, 09:39:13 PM »
I'm too tired for taking pics today, so I'll do it first thing in the morning. I'm really sorry everyone  :-\ *bows deeply*
Until then, drop some more questions if you have some.

I'll say that much for you to work with: The yet unanswered questions won't reveal anything that can not be concluded from previous answers.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #695 on: February 07, 2010, 01:07:24 AM »
Okay.... location is relevant...hmm...

Were they on some kind of mobile transport?

Were they indoors?

Were they underwater?

Were they in the sky?

Were they in a locked room?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #696 on: February 07, 2010, 08:43:38 AM »
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That looks like a GO board you're handling.

Well noticed. Your turn.

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Other than the 2 man, was anyone else involved?


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Is the past of any importance?


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Are they extremely old?


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Did one have a horrific disease, such as cancer?


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Was there anyone around them when they died. As in, when the first man committed suicide was there anybody besides his opponent in the area.


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Was there anything unusual about the chess pieces themselves? Were they in any sort of unorthodox shape? Did they resemble something else besides standard chess pieces?

Well,they look like pengu-


Nah, that's just because I don't have a chess set.

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Was there anything more then just a chess board, revolver, and chess pieces in their immediate grasp?

There probably was, but it's IRRELEVANT to the case

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Was the suicide intentional?


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Is the area in which they played their chest game important to the case?


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Were they on some kind of mobile transport?

Were they indoors?

Were they underwater?

Ohoh, interesting questions. Those deserve a


Double thumbs up!

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Were they in the sky?


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Were they in a locked room?




The direction this is going in looks good. Keep it up, my dear players.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #697 on: February 07, 2010, 09:43:37 AM »
Were they in a submarine?

Do you know what rank you are at Go?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #698 on: February 07, 2010, 03:27:41 PM »
Did anyone broke the window? If yes, was it the man who shoot himself had the bullet penetrate through him and hit the window?

Did the other person die by drowning?

You know, I have this book that had plenty of logic puzzles like these that I didn't remember having until this intro seemed familiar. However, having checked the book, it turns out that was just a situation where two man sat at a table quietly then one suddenly leaps and yells, where the solution was that they were playing chess. So it turned out that wasn't the current case, but what was interesting is that the puzzle on the page before that one is about a man not able to open a window because he was in a submarine!
If this turns out they were really in a submarine, this would be such a creepy coincidence, just maybe that book's writers heard of this and decide to split it into two riddles?  :V
If so, this kind of counts me as having heard the case before... so sorry about it...

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #699 on: February 07, 2010, 04:27:48 PM »
Did the man die of asphyxiation?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #700 on: February 07, 2010, 11:10:28 PM »
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Do you know what rank you are at Go?

Well, I suppose I'd be somewhere between 30-25 Kyu, an absolute beginner.
I know how to play and have played a lot against computer programs, but only a few times against humans. I easily beat a bot ranked 22 Kyu on KGS once, but I don't count that.
Last time I played was on a real Go table in Japan with a friend.
If anyone wants to play sometime or wants to learn the game, I'd be delighted to play again.


But now, back to the game at hand:


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Were they in a submarine?



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Did anyone broke the window? If yes, was it the man who shoot himself had the bullet penetrate through him and hit the window?


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Did the other person die by drowning?


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You know, I have this book that had plenty of logic puzzles like these that I didn't remember having until this intro seemed familiar. However, having checked the book, it turns out that was just a situation where two man sat at a table quietly then one suddenly leaps and yells, where the solution was that they were playing chess. So it turned out that wasn't the current case, but what was interesting is that the puzzle on the page before that one is about a man not able to open a window because he was in a submarine!
If this turns out they were really in a submarine, this would be such a creepy coincidence, just maybe that book's writers heard of this and decide to split it into two riddles?  :V
If so, this kind of counts me as having heard the case before... so sorry about it...

It seems I'll need to have some words with the author of that book, hehehe...

Ahem, anyway:
That kind of coincidence is far too obscure to count as 'know the case before', really. It's different from having seen the exact same event that's in the case on TV or something.


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Did the man die of asphyxiation?



Thundr:
Judging from your question and your gameplay before, I'm sure you managed to figure out the answer by now.
If so, I'd like to ask you the favor of not solving this one, but leaving it to one of the other guys, okay?
I wanna see if the others can already make all the connections as well.



(Goddamnit, I look awful when I'm tired)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #701 on: February 08, 2010, 01:25:54 AM »
I'd like to ask you the favor of not solving this one, but leaving it to one of the other guys, okay?
I wanna see if the others can already make all the connections as well.

Kay. No problem Sakana.  :V

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #702 on: February 08, 2010, 06:36:38 AM »

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #703 on: February 08, 2010, 07:50:02 AM »
Did they use the chess game to decide who gets to die by gunshot?

Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #704 on: February 08, 2010, 02:34:49 PM »
A submarine, you say? Let me have a guess:

The two men were the sole crew of a submarine. During a mission, the submarine broke down, in that it could not rise to the surface and refill its air supply. Since the two couldn't do anything to help their situation themselves, they decided to spend the time playing a game of chess. One of the two was a very sore loser, and upon losing the game, committed suicide. Soon after, the air ran out, and the other died as well.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #705 on: February 08, 2010, 10:39:26 PM »
Sorry, too tired for pictures today, once again.
Here's something for you all to work with for now:



The answer to Pesco's question is YES.

Yoshi's theory is wrong on one detail, which I want to be cleared however.




I'll say it's happy theory time now, so have at it.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #706 on: February 08, 2010, 10:50:35 PM »
Going for the kill:
There was only one bullet, so the winner of the game was allowed to shoot himself. The loser had to die a slow painful death from asphyxiation.

(Why they didn't just stand together and fire through both of them is beyond me.)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #707 on: February 09, 2010, 09:02:42 AM »
CASE SOLVED!
Enough details have been uncovered and brought into connection to declare this case as solved. Please wait a bit for
post-game summary.



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The two men were the sole crew of a submarine. During a mission, the submarine broke down, in that it could not rise to the surface and refill its air supply.
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Going for the kill:
There was only one bullet, so the winner of the game was allowed to shoot himself. The loser had to die a slow painful death from asphyxiation.








YES


A weird case, isn't it?
Playing a game over who gets to commit suicide?



It seems the men in this riddle....


...have really sunk low.



Well then, let me explain the events:

The two men were on a submarine...


...that broke down and sunk.


Without any hope for help, suicide seemed like a good option to them....


...but the revolver they had only carried a single bullet.


So they played a game of chess to decide who would get to die by the gun.






After the winner of the game had died, the loser had to wait until the air ran out and he would painfully die.











Well then, this was certainly a lof of fun for me, and I hope so it was for you, my dear players.
You did a good job in solving this riddle.
Next round will be a standard one again, however this will not have been the last Special Round.
There will be others, maybe with photos again, maybe with something completely else.
I encourage those of you that have any ideas for how to make the game even more fun to tell me their ideas, no matter how crazy they may sound.
With this, let's rest a bit before I present you a new riddle tonight.



« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 09:08:41 AM by Moe Moe Sakana-Katana »

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #708 on: February 09, 2010, 09:37:47 AM »
So much awesomeness that I can't handle

 ;D

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #709 on: February 09, 2010, 02:24:45 PM »
That was fun! Although getting answers was just a little bit slower. It doesn't matter though. More time to think.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 16: Two Dead Men ~ Now with photo answers
« Reply #710 on: February 10, 2010, 08:34:34 AM »
Alright, kept you waiting long enough, back to the game:


Seventeenth Case: Deadly Silence
The audience listened to the music.
Suddenly there was silence.
And that moment, someone died.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #711 on: February 10, 2010, 08:42:57 AM »
Was the audience listening to a live performance?

Could they see the performer?

Was the music being played "4:33"? :V

Was the silence part of the music?

Was the silence intended?

Did the person dying make a noise?

Was the person dying a performer? An audience member? A production staff? An outsider completely unrelated to the closed system of the events?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #712 on: February 10, 2010, 08:54:56 AM »
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Was the audience listening to a live performance?
YES

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Could they see the performer?
YES

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Was the music being played "4:33"? :V
NO

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Was the silence part of the music?
IRRELEVANT, look at next answer

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Was the silence intended?
YES

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Did the person dying make a noise?
UNKNOWN, but possibly YES

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Was the person dying a performer?
YES

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An audience member? A production staff? An outsider completely unrelated to the closed system of the events?
NO, NO and NO
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 09:07:38 AM by Moe Moe Sakana-Katana »

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #713 on: February 10, 2010, 09:05:03 AM »
did they go silent because the person died?

or did the person die because people went silent?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #714 on: February 10, 2010, 09:11:51 AM »
Oops, accidentally modified your post instead of quoting it  :V

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did they go silent because the person died?
UNKNOWN

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or did the person die because people went silent?
NO, but that includes a wrong assumption on your part.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #715 on: February 10, 2010, 09:38:39 AM »
Was there more than a single person in the audience?

Was there a single performer?

Could you say that it was a large audience?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #716 on: February 10, 2010, 10:09:39 AM »
Were they performing a minute's silence for remembrance, or prayer?

Was the dying performer a vocalist?

Were they murdered?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #717 on: February 10, 2010, 10:21:23 AM »
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Was there more than a single person in the audience?
YES

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Was there a single performer?
NO

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Could you say that it was a large audience?
IRRELEVANT, you may assume YES

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Were they performing a minute's silence for remembrance, or prayer?
NO

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Was the dying performer a vocalist?
NO

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Were they murdered?
NO

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #718 on: February 10, 2010, 10:55:39 AM »
Was the performer a magician? A hypnotist?

Was the death a result of the performance going wrong?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 17: Deadly Silence
« Reply #719 on: February 10, 2010, 11:09:18 AM »
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Was the performer a magician? A hypnotist?
NO and NO

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Was the death a result of the performance going wrong?
YES