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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #450 on: January 29, 2010, 10:14:21 PM »
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Do we have to know something special to know to figure out this puzzle?
How exactly? I'd say NO.

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Was the mayor guilty of murder?
YES

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Was he guilty of an affair?
NO

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Did he rise to power through a political scandal which he confessed to?
NO
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2010, 10:16:58 PM »
Was the mayor's victim somebody the killer knew?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2010, 10:19:20 PM »
Did the mayor commit murder intentionally?

Was the man the mayor killed related to either of the 3 involved in this case?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #453 on: January 29, 2010, 10:20:35 PM »
Is the identity of the culprit relevant to the case?

Did the murderer know of the crime before the speech?

Did the speech reveal the mayor's guilt?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #454 on: January 29, 2010, 10:31:19 PM »
Is the murder the mayor committed actually relevant to this case?

If so, then:

The mayor committed a murder, for reasons as of yet unknown. Someone who knew the victim, found out about this crime, and decided to take it into their own hands. They had been waiting for a chance to kill the mayor, and the confession was when they decided to strike.
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #455 on: January 29, 2010, 11:53:07 PM »
Quote from: Sakana
Also, what's a 'preist', Lady UK?  :V

Someone who believes in things that happen before other things.

EDIT: Alternatively it's a hybrid car that declares your sexual orientation to the entire world (assuming a male is driving it)
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #456 on: January 30, 2010, 02:41:02 AM »
Quote from: My Only Shining Drake on January 29, 2010, 10:31:19 PM
The mayor committed a murder, for reasons as of yet unknown. Someone who knew the victim, found out about this crime, and decided to take it into their own hands. They had been waiting for a chance to kill the mayor, and the confession was when they decided to strike.

I'm gonna take this to the next level.

Did the mayor and Priest both speak?

The Priest spoke about how his first confession was of the murder of someone. Somehow, the mayor never heard said speech (late) and spoke about how he was the first one to confess to the priest. The man who shot him was related to the one who was murdered, likely his/her sibling.
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 10: The Mayor
« Reply #457 on: January 30, 2010, 07:34:04 AM »
CASE SOLVED!
Enough details have been uncovered and brought into connection to declare this case as solved. Please wait a bit for
post-game summary.


Quote from: Thundr_Pwnage on January 30, 2010, 02:41:02 AM
The Priest spoke about how his first confession was of the murder of someone. Somehow, the mayor never heard said speech (late) and spoke about how he was the first one to confess to the priest. The man who shot him was related to the one who was murdered, likely his/her sibling.
YES

During his speech the priest mentioned the mysterious murder that had taken place on the first day of his work for the community.
He also told that the first confession he had received had been that of the murderer.
The mayor, who only arrived at the speech later, in turn spoke about how he had been the first one to come to the priest to confess.
With this he had given himself away and was shot by a relative of the victim during his speech

Hmm, hmm, nice work everyone.
Of course Sir Thundr arrived at his spot-on-questions with his sharp intellect, not with external help, ri~ght?  ;)
Linking a priest to confessions is the one most important step in this riddle,
and I have seen people despair over it because they could not find that one step.
Well, anyway, with this you have completed one fifth of my riddles,
let's move on to the next fifth with the following.
Hmm, which on should I choose....ah, yes, how about this one, though it is quite easy:







Eleventh Case: Mother's Funeral
At her mother's funeral, a woman saw a man she did not know.
Some days later she killed her sister.
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #458 on: January 30, 2010, 07:45:38 AM »
was she her real sister?

was she her half sister?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #459 on: January 30, 2010, 07:46:16 AM »
Did the man know the woman?

Is the time frame (a few days later) relevant?

Is incest involved?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #460 on: January 30, 2010, 08:11:07 AM »
If the man had not been seen, would the sister have wound up dead?

Is adultery involved?

Is the man related to the woman?

Is the man related to the sister?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #461 on: January 30, 2010, 08:46:29 AM »
Hmm...I could swear I've heard this one before, but I remember nothing.

Is the death or cause of death of the mother relevant?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #462 on: January 30, 2010, 09:20:24 AM »
does the ages of the people matter?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #463 on: January 30, 2010, 09:26:33 AM »
Oh wow, I almost expected insta-solve on this one, but I guess not, which is nice. Alright...*cough..Ahem

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was she her real sister?
YES

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was she her half sister?
NO

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Did the man know the woman?
UNKNOWN

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Is the time frame (a few days later) relevant?
NOt really

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Is incest involved?
NO

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If the man had not been seen, would the sister have wound up dead?
NO

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Is adultery involved?
NO

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Is the man related to the woman?
NO

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Is the man related to the sister?
UNKNOWN

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Is the death or cause of death of the mother relevant?
NO

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does the ages of the people matter?
NO
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #464 on: January 30, 2010, 10:22:36 AM »
Does the man know her sister?

Does her sister know the man?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #465 on: January 30, 2010, 10:24:32 AM »
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Does the man know her sister?
UNKNOWN

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Does her sister know the man?
UNKNOWN
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #466 on: January 30, 2010, 10:26:54 AM »
Do your UNKNOWNs actually mean IRRELEVANT?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #467 on: January 30, 2010, 10:45:34 AM »
Quote from: Matsuri's Rabbit on January 30, 2010, 10:26:54 AM
Do your UNKNOWNs actually mean IRRELEVANT?
NO. Often the line between 'unknown' and 'irrelevant' is not clear, but I always think carefully about how I answer. I will only use irrelevant when it concerns some line of thought that can be dropped without consequences.
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #468 on: January 30, 2010, 11:10:20 AM »
Was the fact that the man attended the funeral caused the woman to murder her sister?

Was there interaction between the man and the woman at the funeral?

Was there interaction between the man and the woman after the funeral?

Was her sister responsible for contacting people to attend the funeral?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #469 on: January 30, 2010, 11:38:27 AM »
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Was the fact that the man attended the funeral caused the woman to murder her sister?
YES

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Was there interaction between the man and the woman at the funeral?
NO

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Was there interaction between the man and the woman after the funeral?
NO

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Was her sister responsible for contacting people to attend the funeral?
UNKNOWN
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #470 on: January 30, 2010, 11:56:10 AM »
Was the presence of a man at the funeral not a problem?

Did the woman think she's supposed to know who's going to the funeral?

Did the woman want only people she know to go to the funeral?

Had the woman ever found out the identity of the man?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #471 on: January 30, 2010, 12:15:01 PM »
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Was the presence of a man at the funeral not a problem?
NO, it wasn't a problem.

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Did the woman think she's supposed to know who's going to the funeral?
UNKNOWN, leaning towards IRRELEVANT

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Did the woman want only people she know to go to the funeral?
IRRELEVANT

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Had the woman ever found out the identity of the man?
NO
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #472 on: January 30, 2010, 01:30:19 PM »
Was the fact that a man attended the funeral caused the woman to murder her sister?

Did you intentionally state "it wasn't a problem" after NO because problem wasn't the proper word to describe it and want to give me a hint as I was onto something?

Did the mother state specify anything she wanted her funeral to be that's revelant to this case?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #473 on: January 30, 2010, 01:47:26 PM »
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Was the fact that a man attended the funeral caused the woman to murder her sister?
NO

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Did you intentionally state "it wasn't a problem" after NO because problem wasn't the proper word to describe it and want to give me a hint as I was onto something?
UNKNOWN  ;D. I rather used it because I always have problems with how the negation of a negation will be understood, but if you can make a hint out of it, then feel free to do so.

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Did the mother state specify anything she wanted her funeral to be that's revelant to this case?
NO
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #474 on: January 30, 2010, 02:46:40 PM »
Did she have a reason for killing her sister?

Did the unknown man intend to attend the funeral?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #475 on: January 30, 2010, 03:44:54 PM »
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Did she have a reason for killing her sister?
YES

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Did the unknown man intend to attend the funeral?
YES
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #476 on: January 30, 2010, 04:14:06 PM »
Quote from: Fightest on January 30, 2010, 08:46:29 AM
Hmm...I could swear I've heard this one before, but I remember nothing.

Is the death or cause of death of the mother relevant?

This is EXACTLY what I thought when I read that, Fightest :P.

It must be a very forgettable case.

EDIT before posting:
AH! I just remembered it!

Shall I post the answer Sakana?

EDIT EDIT: Actually, since people are trying to solve, I should ask leading questions instead. Sorry, wasn't thinking.



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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #477 on: January 30, 2010, 04:21:11 PM »
Quote from: Uncertain Mikeneko Rock on January 30, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
Shall I post the answer Sakana?
Of course. If you managed to get the solution again from what people have asked, then post it. There has been enough details to reach the conclusion already.
Also, I kinda hoped for you to solve it, because remembering one of your questions on the first case I thought this one here would be your type of case  ;)
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #478 on: January 30, 2010, 04:24:47 PM »
Well, part of it was just a flash of memory. It wasn't entirely logically deduced. I heard it before, but forgot the answer til my memory was jogged. I'm not sure which question did it.

Should I post what I think I know anyway?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 11: Mother's Funeral
« Reply #479 on: January 30, 2010, 04:29:06 PM »
Quote from: Uncertain Mikeneko Rock on January 30, 2010, 04:24:47 PM
Should I post what I think I know anyway?
As I said, of course, there's enough details even if you hadn't remembered it. I'm already wondering why nobody else has stated a theory yet, maybe they think that it's too obvious to be true.
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