The iDOLM@STER Mafia Thread 1 (Locked)

[Serela]

Is your ITP win condition "go the entire game without doing anything remotely useful" Dan

"doing anything remotely useful in the thread*

[Conqueror]

I just type in lower caps when I'm too lazy to use proper punctuation.

I forget why I started but it's an infectious habit and I strongly discourage other people from falling into it.

[ActionDan]

I'll contribute by proclaiming myself right about Mitsuki/Vhaltz.

And by noting that the post I quoted of yours was in fact completely accurate though you tried to deny it.

@Shadoweh.  You'll know when you see it.  If you see it.

[Conqueror]

Dan why don't you post in the thread and stuff, we don't bite!

[Serela]

I just type in lower caps when I'm too lazy to use proper punctuation.

I forget why I started but it's an infectious habit and I strongly discourage other people from falling into it.

I know just how infectious it is ;_;

I was young and in a guild on some MMO and it was the "cool" thing (along with the `-` face) and I haven't been able to stop since

[Conqueror]

Pfft I somehow missed Sky_Paladin's hilarious reaction to the flip. Yeah, I don't see him faking that himself and the reaction came too quickly to be coached.

[Serela]

Anyway who's with me on wagoning Dan until he stops refusing to do anything where most of the people in the game can actually see it?

I mean I've already admitted I'm not seriously voting Shadoweh anymore >_> I'll reread my other not-town reads (Probably Zak and Validon to start since people are talking about lynching them) when I have more time (Tomorrow morning I'll have to leave for work immediately so you probably won't see more then a tiny blip post if anything until later) but I already know ActionDan is blugh!

##unvote ##Vote ActionDan

[Conqueror]

Can Vhaltz or someone in the neighbor QT just tell us what Dan's been doing in there? Since apparently he's been doing something.

[ActionDan]

I've been defacto town along with everyone else in the QT for reasons that we won't go into

[Serela]

* Serela headdesks repeatedly

[ActionDan]

Serela was there a reason you vigorously tried to deny you had an alt-win con when I brought it up

[Serela]

ActionDan is there a reason you blatantly refuse to do anything useful in the thread and when prodded respond with the equivalent of "people in the QT know I'm town :dontcare:"?

[ActionDan]

define useful

[Serela]

scumhunting

or anything that would help you look town I guess but scumhunting is really important

[ActionDan]

I might have tried had I not stumbled into being auto-town at the start of D2

[ActionDan]

I notice you evaded my question

[Serela]

And so now you're just going to sit around and not do anything

even though everyone in the QT still doesn't know you're town (I can't say much about the people who -are- in the QT) (also because that really doesn't help your win condition if you're really town)

VHALTZ. You're confirmed town and in the QT. Is ActionDan seriously confirmed town? >_>; If you're going to be cagey, whatever, fine, but THROW ME A BONE HERE

[Serela]

ActionDan do you really expect me to claim having conditional powers and whatnot just because you brought it up?

[ActionDan]

I believe you went:

"ActionDan you suck clearly it was a joke stop trying to get me killed that's sucky"

[Serela]

Also PX just confirmed to me that I don't lose my vote or anything if I achieve my alternate win; I keep going for a second win with all of Town like BT would have.

Noooo ActionDan I said the first part of my response was me kidding D: Oh wait, no I just said "more seriously"

but that was supposed to imply it

I'm Serela I'm bad at these things

[ActionDan]

so.

Unlike Vhaltz and BT, you don't leave the thread or effectively die after getting your solo wincon?

[Vhaltz]

like this is a particularly egregious point that i dont think vhaltz!town would have made. because town don't forget about mafia games?

I don't think my case was bad, I believe you were heavily biased when you considered this a bad point to a case.

As town my brain rechecks activity and memorable posts in the game when my attention is not diverted into something else. Like when I commute alone I just think of mafia because there's nothing better to do. I figure not all people do exactly this, but I work with the assumption that most people do at least something have a similar thing in that they remember out of habit that they have to post every 24 hours or eat modkill dirt. Serela leaving the game for over 24 hours just indicated for me that he wasn't paying much attention to when he last posted and wasn't really looking forward to posting again too soon, which is not characteristic of town.

I still think Serela skipped late D1 on purpose just because he didn't care much about the lynch and wanted to make sure he survived to try his luck at the ITP win and that it was all just an excuse. But it's cool because he has claimed it and still has a town wincon instead of a scum one.

@ QT shenanigans
There was a role crumb in the QT by ~*somebody*~ that got picked up pretty fast and it would've been expected for scum to kill of the crumber N1 because of potentially having the role. That person didn't die so the logic is nobody in the QT was scum (I now suggest that the fourth person in the QT doesn't claim for obvious reasons).

The only scenario where Dan is scum is one where he has balls of steel and gambits by telling his scumteam not to kill this person and autoproclaim himself townie mctown D2. Not sure how likely this is considering the point about a hypothetical scum!Dan having leeway for quicklynching my slot in D1 after the PM thing. He also could've brought up the point himself after I outed neighbors but he wanted it to remain a secret for whatever reason until I was the one to do so (which was the worst idea in mafia)

[Serela]

Unlike Vhaltz and BT, you don't leave the thread or effectively die after getting your solo wincon?

Actually I said "just like BT". He neither leaves nor effectively dies.

[Conqueror]

Serela was there a reason you vigorously tried to deny you had an alt-win con when I brought it up

dan is this question actually relevant to thinking serela is scum or town or are you just trying to fluff up the thread with meaningless questions

[ActionDan]

dan is this question actually relevant to thinking serela is scum or town or are you just trying to fluff up the thread with meaningless questions

it's a question that can lead to revelations. 

[Vhaltz]

holy fuck it's late, Mitsuki will kill me ;_;

I'm going to go finally get my sleep. Do not quicklynch in the next few hours, really.

[Conqueror]

I don't think my case was bad, I believe you were heavily biased when you considered this a bad point to a case.

In any case it boils down to a playstyle argument, not an alignment one. I've wanted to avoid posting in the thread as town before. Sometimes I just plain forgets. People are people.

I also disagreed with the rest of your case but didn't have time to dissect it then. I'm not really interested in doing so now unless the Serela case picks up again.

[Serela]

I want to ask what the proclaimed "incredibly-dangerous-to-scum role that they absolutely have to get rid of if they know about it" is, but I know that'd be bad form. >_>

While I'm in an uninformed position, I wouldn't declare everyone in the QT town because of this. (for that matter, there's also the possibility of the crumber being gambitty scum- I have no idea if this is a conspiracy theory because, again, I'm very uninformed on the QT going-ons)

[Serela]

or even the role not actually being as dangerous to the scum as thought because of their own roles

You just can't game the setup that easily. (Or maybe the role is a real wower, I'unno.)

[Conqueror]

eh I don't think it's useful talking about what crumbs may or may not have been in the QT.

I'll just say that I frown pretty heavily on clearing people for NK WIFOM, but I guess we'll know more when it's eventually revealed.