Gensokyo Holy War Mafia (Game Over)

[WHMZakeri]

well, it says gut with that as source, so I guess what I'm really asking is if there's more to add to it, because that alone doesn't really ping town for me.

[BT]

It is. If I had something more solid I'd have mentioned it.

[BT]

I'm talking to myself and I feel like I actually want Serela gone more than I want Raikaria but I'll go over things properly and decide later.

[BT]

Oh, I get your confusion. Me thinking he wouldn't say that as scum is the gut feeling.

[Polaris]

I commented on your lack of commenting. From Shadoweh's posts onwards it's just people repeating what they have already said.

There's several pages you cab actually give more than 1 line opinions on, and you should be able to have someone you dislike for an actual reason, not a gut feeling. Who do you think is town and why could be useful as well.

You severely underestimate the power of my intuition  :v
Also despite me having so little things to read you appear to have not been reading my posts. See the post where I say that I have no reads which can be interpreted as having no scum reads. There is a difference between not wanting to give reads and not having reads to give. You are literally mudslinging. Or do you want me to start acting like scum and faking reads just so that I look productive? If you're going to make a case on me, at least do it just on "low content" as opposed to "refusing to cooperate", because the latter isn't what I'm doing at all >_>

You guys should be honored that I'm posting at 6 in the morning because I love mafia so much ugh no more time to post
Not here for deadline because of school so let's lynch serela ok!!! Unless he posts again and he looks townier in that post
Because of my amazing dedication to mafia I might be able to phone post for consolidation purposes assuming I don't utterly oppose the lynch

[Schezo]

Reading Shadoweh's case: I agree that the NNR wagon is suspicious as hell considering nobody is actually voting him for being scum

What is it with Zakeri misrepping the crap out people?  Pesco and Edible gave reasons as to why they didn't like him and I found nothing disagreeable with them.

It's a shame his wagon isn't happening today. And since he's voting IHNN that wagon just got gay.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Serela

Stop refusing to read this guy everyone and vote him.
Polaris you don't magically divine scum. Something gave you gut. Go find it.

[Raikaria]

You severely underestimate the power of my intuition  :v
Also despite me having so little things to read you appear to have not been reading my posts. See the post where I say that I have no reads which can be interpreted as having no scum reads. There is a difference between not wanting to give reads and not having reads to give. You are literally mudslinging. Or do you want me to start acting like scum and faking reads just so that I look productive? If you're going to make a case on me, at least do it just on "low content" as opposed to "refusing to cooperate", because the latter isn't what I'm doing at all >_>

You guys should be honored that I'm posting at 6 in the morning because I love mafia so much ugh no more time to post
Not here for deadline because of school so let's lynch serela ok!!! Unless he posts again and he looks townier in that post
Because of my amazing dedication to mafia I might be able to phone post for consolidation purposes assuming I don't utterly oppose the lynch

Knowing who you think is town can be beneficial as well. Reads do not just have to be negative. Why do'ya have to be so negative Polaris?

At this point there is more than enough to have an actual reason beyond gut to vote someone. [Even if it's me that gets voted. I've done some dumb stuff that in hindsight I can see justifying a vote on me, like BT's vote]

Anyway, out of the current wagons I'm still liking the Serela one most. Zakeri's recent post summerises another reason why [other than the oddity that he voted Schezo when I just said I think he's town] pretty well, his heel face turn.

Don't like the IHNN one *too* much, simply because there is a severe lack of IHNN to go on. Although I would vote it happily if it was required at the day end.  Would also happily lynch Polaris at this point.

Everyone else reads 'meh' to me. Main townreads on Schezo, Edibil and BT. Those are the three I would least want lynched right now.

[Schezo]

Stop shouting townreads everyone. I don't want death tonight. Catboi wants to live please.

Ya know when there is no danger of your townreads dying it's cool to keep that kinda stuff to yourself too.

[Raikaria]

Stop shouting townreads everyone. I don't want death tonight. Catboi wants to live please.

Ya know when there is no danger of your townreads dying it's cool to keep that kinda stuff to yourself too.

There are also advantages of giving townreads. Like:

- People know how others won't have support to be lynched
- Power roles such as docs can target those people, docs, cops, ect.

Still, it's an opinion thing, and playstyle thing. I'm giving enough reads that they can't all die anyway. I'd be impressed if mafia killed three people in one night.

[Raikaria]

- People know how which others won't have support to be lynched

Which prevents wasted voted and makes consolidation easier.

[Schezo]

Other advantages include but are not limited to:
- invoking complacency in the townread to not try as hard
- giving scum a comprehensive nightkill list
- missing your read and encouraging others to gloss over someone and allow scum to coast

[Raikaria]

Other advantages include but are not limited to:
- invoking complacency in the townread to not try as hard
- giving scum a comprehensive nightkill list
- missing your read and encouraging others to gloss over someone and allow scum to coast

Those are disadvantages. Not advantages.

Unless you are implying something. But I've been asked for townreads on a regular basis in prior games, so I assumed it was generally seen as a good idea.

[Schezo]

Them darn sarcasm points. Situationally town reading can be good but blabbing about then especially early game when the townreads can be off is discouraged.

[NekoNekoRex]

Well I reread and it's pretty clear my problems with Pesco are going to be an ongoing issue so long as both him and I are alive in this game. Pesco is never going to step down from this issue so I'm just going to step down myself.
If people want my personal thoughts on the issue they can ask for my Thoughts Quicktopic (possibly wait until after the game ends even though I never actually ended up posting any game-related thoughts)

##Sub: Out

[I have no name]

I come back and seriously I'm being deadline wagoned again D1.
Seriously.

It's not my fault I overslept (ok maybe it sort of is but whatever) and now I actually do have homework I have due in less than 2 hours.
If I'm not dead by then my first post in D2 will go into detail on D1 since I'll have time to write one then, sorry for being so inactive today but a whole bunch of stuff happened just as the day started, again.

##Unvote: NNR

This post is even worse on the easy wagon train because it hops on Neko while mentioning that the guy who wants to push Neko as a lynch looks like scum. It's another vote for hate instead of a vote for scum.

I have no read on you right Shadoweh because it would be clouded with RAGE for trying to wagon me out of nowhere.
However, if you actually read my post, you'd see I said this:

re-reading for other stuff that jumped out at me showed the 'chainsaw' as a reason for a vote and if voting for a vote is scummy then NNR is scummy for voting Serela for his vote.

So if it's between me, Raikaria (who I still wouldn't vote) and Serela who I'm still shaky on then I would ##Vote Serela.

Wait, Affinity and Dormio are in this game?  Slipped my mind completely.

Rereading IHNN comes across like he laid down some tracks on other people's trains of thought instead of some of his own

So I'm scummy because my independently reached thoughts match other peoples/are the commonly reached opinion.  This always seems to happen because I post at a later time people think I'm copying.

Want to say Zak is scum but he's voting me now for ~reasons~.
...
Actually, if I'm scum for stating the reasons I came up with that happened to match other people, how is Zak not scum for saying "these people convinced to me vote for this person", which would be one less level of effort.

and that was one third of my time this "morning" before class and I still have the homework to do and I still have to get ready but I'll still try to check in before the day ends because I ACTUALLY WANT TO GET TO PLAY IN THIS GAME

[Raikaria]

However, if you actually read my post, you'd see I said this:
So if it's between me, Raikaria (who I still wouldn't vote) and Serela who I'm still shaky on then I would ##Vote Serela.

Deja Vu, eh?

Oh, and I'm not keen on Zak either. But I'm less keen on Serela and Polaris.

[Schezo]

Boy that was whiny for being persecuted for lurking and having one lackluster post all day. Should probably cut down on the ate but I'm impartial to if you get lynched or not.
I do like you having desire to get Zakeri since that mofo is scum but you aren't really in a position to scream "I want to play WTF?!" When you haven't so far today.

[I have no name]

I've stated why I haven't been posting today.  I can't make you believe me that I've actually been busy with IRL school things, unless I'm allowed to attach the homework I've had to do (brick wall on homework=MOAR POSTAN YAY)

[I have no name]

Also there's a lot of frustration that it's another quickwagon when we all know how those always end up.  Seriously, when has any D1 quickwagon EVER hit scum.  As far as I can remember it's always hit town.  So why do people keep thinking it's a good idea?

[Serela]

Uh, not a big fan of the IHNN wagon thing. And this is the kind of D1 lurking where it feels like the person probably just hasn't had time and 48 hours -really- isn't enough to differentiate between "oops something came up" and intentional lurking.

That being said, obviously I'll vote him over -me- getting lynched (It's not like I have a town read on him either tbh) but can we lynch someone else? I imagine the NNR wagon is also going to be dissolving because he's replacing out.

Lynch Raikaria?! (On a more serious note, everyone's already considered Raikaria and if my wagon is picking up speed a lot more then his is then obviously I'm going to need to suggest someone else `-`) And, Zakeri, yes, I mean, that was the point of me voting him :c Oh my god, when I say Raikaria is town everyone thinks I'm saying he's scum AND THEN VICE VERSA

* Serela throws hands into the air

Also, IHNN, a D1 quickwagon did hit scum in a somewhat recent game :V I don't remember the name, I just remember Polly was in it and lategame it stagnated from a lack of new content. Scum won. This isn't to say quickwagons are good, but >_> In a 48 hour d1 it's not surprising.

Doing rereads, expect followup post shortly

[Schezo]

What I mean is don't ate out the ass if you want to survive today since all you have to do is show why you're better than Serela.
Because the more I look at your ate the more delicious of a lynch you look~

I'll look you two over again in a few hours de vours and decide.

[Serela]

I don't remember the name

Oh yeah, Shadoweh was scum and all her buddies tried to bus her and then got lynched immediately

Schezo it would be coolbeans if you used proper capitalization in AtE when you're making posts about ate-ing out an ass, I just kind of, well I figured maybe, oh I'm going to go do those rereads now

[Kilgamayan]

Replacement request noted. I have contacted Raitaki, since he is ostensibly first in line. Should he decline, I will contact Bardiche.

Vote count coming once I get on lunch.

[Serela]

Reasons to Lynch Zakeri

• Continous jokevoting
• Copying my Schezo vo-

Nevermind I can't take that seriously. NEXT. >_>
Except, well, let's look at his actual game post (the more recent one). He ignores that the people voting NNR actually have real reasons, makes a weird point on Affinity that hardly stands up (Raikaria added an imo pointless reason onto the general serela case but pretty much just sheeped chainsaw, even after arguing chainsaw wasn't scummy! <--- Reason to lynch Raikaria, but I digress; happy to get back on him if people agree) and sheeps the IHNN thing that I honestly don't agree with. (see next sentence)

I see why some people want to lynch Zak! o: I could get on board with this.

And I think IHNN's initial post that people are voting him for is actually kind of town-looking?

I Would Vote Affinity. Is there any interest in Affinity-lynching? He comes in to hop on the growing Raikaria wagon with a simple sentence or two and hasn't posted otherwise iirc (RVS doesn't count, nor does "Oh well my vote still stands, will do more later")
##Vote Affinity

[Raikaria]

Reasons to Lynch Zakeri

• Continous jokevoting
• Copying my Schezo vo-

Nevermind I can't take that seriously. NEXT. >_>
Except, well, let's look at his actual game post (the more recent one). He ignores that the people voting NNR actually have real reasons, makes a weird point on Affinity that hardly stands up (Raikaria added an imo pointless reason onto the general serela case but pretty much just sheeped chainsaw, even after arguing chainsaw wasn't scummy! <--- Reason to lynch Raikaria, but I digress; happy to get back on him if people agree) and sheeps the IHNN thing that I honestly don't agree with. (see next sentence)

I see why some people want to lynch Zak! o: I could get on board with this.

And I think IHNN's initial post that people are voting him for is actually kind of town-looking?

I Would Vote Affinity. Is there any interest in Affinity-lynching? He comes in to hop on the growing Raikaria wagon with a simple sentence or two and hasn't posted otherwise iirc (RVS doesn't count, nor does "Oh well my vote still stands, will do more later")
##Vote Affinity

Just because you don't agree with something I find odd doesn't mean it's pointless. It seems odd to me.

I don't know how I've failed to call out Affinity next, however. Probably fears of OMGUS accusations. But yeah, hardly done anything, and is basically sheeping me.

At this point Serela is no longer my priority lynch, he's slipped a fair bit down my priories.

##Unvote
## Vote: Polaris

[Raikaria]

At this point the three I am most happy to lynch are Polaris, Zakeri and Affinity.

[Schezo]

It's not my fault you're a pervert!

And GOSH Serela we only have 6 hours and no one else has even expressed interest in Affinity lynch.  And least vote Zakeri who a few others want and not waste your vote and time.

[Serela]

I thought it'd be worth a try ;_; This is at least during  the day and not the middle of the night like last time

but yeah if a Zakeri wagon comes up then, I mean, I'm going to be around

[Schezo]

You're in for a scolding if you let your vote sit there until deadline.

[Raikaria]

And GOSH Serela we only have 6 hours and no one else has even expressed interest in Affinity lynch.  And least vote Zakeri who a few others want and not waste your vote and time.

6 hours left is 1/8th of the game day.

I tried to get a PX wagon at the end of D1, in like the last 5 hours of a 5-Day Day phase, and about 3/4rs~5/6ths of the people required to get a lynch agreed and expressed interest.

If I can almost get PX lynched in the last 5 hours of a 5 day game day, Serela can get Affinity Lynched in the last 6 hours of a 2 day day phase.