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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #300 on: March 17, 2013, 03:42:20 AM »
dan if you seriously think that's a slip then i don't know what to tell you

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #301 on: March 17, 2013, 03:43:29 AM »
HW turning around all his reads just to backlash on me isn't doing him any favors.
dude i've been scumreading you for a majority of the day up until now

i would nuke serela over dan btw

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #302 on: March 17, 2013, 03:44:19 AM »
I am entirely aware that my post isn't that great and I am too tired to correct this
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #303 on: March 17, 2013, 03:45:43 AM »
oh wait, failsafe isn't vengeful. .-. i seriously thought it triggered on lynch as well as nk...

that's lame since i can't just lynch myself and actually have to push a case which is honestly just bad game design and not something you should ever have to do in mafia

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #304 on: March 17, 2013, 03:47:24 AM »
Serela that post is scummy as hell. "I hate the HW wagon, anybody up for dan+hw double mislynch?"

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #305 on: March 17, 2013, 03:47:45 AM »
^ that's a scumslip btw ^

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #306 on: March 17, 2013, 03:51:43 AM »
Wow I didn't even notice that. I am so totally the best!

The fact that a HW lynch is now unexciting for all reasons doesn't retroactively make that less bad looking, I assume? >_>

Still think Dan is pretty bad and am totally happy leaving my vote on him. Opinion on NNR/IHNN hasn't changed and I feel like collapsing into bed rather then trying harder to change this. Probably going to sleep in a minute because I can't think straight even for my own standards.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #307 on: March 17, 2013, 03:52:19 AM »
omg scumslip vote for huh what he made a plan and random dice made stuff happen
dan wanna come lynch Raikaria with me I will make you waffles
Also apparently the scum QT is 83% catgirls and 17% people coming out of the closet.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #308 on: March 17, 2013, 03:53:21 AM »
Also I thought it would be related to that. I do not see why the SK would steal either of those roles instead of say, someting that would actually help them win the game..


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #309 on: March 17, 2013, 03:55:34 AM »
conq does the failsafe have a revengekill of any type when lynched
No.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #310 on: March 17, 2013, 03:57:21 AM »
That was a tangent. In any case, HW's case on NNR doesn't work because it's forcing a perspective that doesn't actually have any real meaning. His reason for his vote has nothing to do with Dan's vote, so the comparison is just to make NNR look worse.
that's not the main reason I think NNR is scum though I think it's weird he'd turn around and vote with Dan in context

His Raikaria and Dan votes were votes for the sake of voting so that people would get off his back. He attacked my rolespec as if he was talking to a town read only to turn around and say I'm null when pressed. Now he says I threw away all my reads to attack him, which, given that I still find rawr scummy and have found NNR scummy for most of the day, shows he is reading less of the thread than I am.

17% people coming out of the closet.
the only people here who would post "im gay" with that particular punctuation/capitalization (like, even think to do so in the first place) in the scum quicktopic are me or NNR trying to sound like me

so.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #311 on: March 17, 2013, 03:59:16 AM »
Also I thought it would be related to that. I do not see why the SK would steal either of those roles instead of say, someting that would actually help them win the game..
only role worth stealing for SK is roleblocker and I didn't even think SK would want to steal roles until Dan pointed this out

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #312 on: March 17, 2013, 04:00:01 AM »
There is no taking into account the SK.  and if SK is included in the word "scum" then there are only 3 slots instead of 4. 
If that's the entire slip then its an SK-slip.

This D1 is probably the second most content and yet I'm more clueless than I usually am at this stage...does not bode very well for the rest of my game.


Also lol at the bad NNR impersonation, thanks for revealing that someone on the scumteam has a sense of humor  :V

-cut-

the only people here who would post "im gay" with that particular punctuation/capitalization (like, even think to do so in the first place) in the scum quicktopic are me or NNR trying to sound like me

so.
that's a meme in the speedrunning community on twitch (if not further out on the site/community) so I know PX knows about it, and probably Serela too.  and probably BT.
so there's that.

Honestly I'm ignoring the leaked messages other than laughing at them for impersonating stuff.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #313 on: March 17, 2013, 04:01:46 AM »
Idle numbercrunching because I procrastinate everything including sleep:7 people alive on day 3 if no crosskills or doc protects or no lynches, and then the sub/missile silos are open to vig. Not to mention there'd be 4 alive day 4 with -no- nuking occuring. Just something to think about.

If town wins, the lynch probably isn't going to be a big contribution to why, in the end :P Apart from driving the posts that we analyze.

also IHNN reminds me of that sda guy "IlikeyourbootybutImnotgay". And I should stop babbling
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #314 on: March 17, 2013, 04:02:23 AM »
dude i've been scumreading you for a majority of the day up until now
I meant your other scumreads, ie rawr and dan. You put me away to vote those two and now you pretty much dropped them as soon as I put a vote on you.
that's lame since i can't just lynch myself and actually have to push a case which is honestly just bad game design and not something you should ever have to do in mafia
I can't even take you seriously anymore >_>

For the sake of maybe finding the answer to that, why did you drop Raikaria and why will you not pick up the spear of vengeance against him?
What?

this was the slip for those still oblivious.

There is no taking into account the SK.  and if SK is included in the word "scum" then there are only 3 slots instead of 4. 
So he's scum for not taking into consideration who the SK is?
....I don't really get how that's such a big scumtell but I'm still satisfied where my vote is.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #315 on: March 17, 2013, 04:03:49 AM »
also IHNN reminds me of that sda guy "IlikeyourbootybutImnotgay". And I should stop babbling
^proves my point exactly.
Also I vaguely remember that trolling person (but if you look anywhere on the site you'll see my account name there is the same as here)

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #316 on: March 17, 2013, 04:04:39 AM »
IHNN I don't think Serela would make that post, especially given his reaction
others, shrug

NNR: Dan hasn't been a scumread since I switched to rawr. rawr never stopped being scummy but I'm more certain about my read on you

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #317 on: March 17, 2013, 04:06:08 AM »
You know I'm pretty sure I'm reading more of the thread than a lot of people in the game.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #318 on: March 17, 2013, 04:07:31 AM »
IHNN I don't think Serela would make that post, especially given his reaction
others, shrug
My point was that other people know of that phrase so it's null and not a scumtell on either you or NNR.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #319 on: March 17, 2013, 04:08:32 AM »
tbh, the main reason Dan thought my post is a scumslip and nobody else got it until he pointed it out is probably because he's non-town and knows that more than one alignment stole a role

otherwise it shouldn't stick out to him given that I had no fucking idea how it was even a scumslip when he told people to look at the post he quoted. I'm calling him as SK who legit thinks I'm scum.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #320 on: March 17, 2013, 04:13:18 AM »
*6 people alive day 3, 3 on d4 with no vigging
the game pretty much ends n3 unless all the vig-capable people are dead by then

Rawr never stopped being scummy but he can't be regarded as existing in a serious manner and lurking to that degree is pretty much unlynchable d1 because infinite useless (Dan is totally a different case I swear)

I think HW's reasoning is vaguely reaching, but honestly most of the last few posts just seem to be blobs of confusion, so it almost looks nonsensical in comparison.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #321 on: March 17, 2013, 04:15:33 AM »
I think HW's reasoning is vaguely reaching, but honestly most of the last few posts just seem to be blobs of confusion, so it almost looks nonsensical in comparison.
NNR or Dan?

Dan I understand, but I think it's a good bet since the thought occurred to absolutely nobody else, including me. You guys know who to lynch when the scum are all dead, at least.

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #322 on: March 17, 2013, 04:16:29 AM »
(to elaborate though I don't think Dan is a member of the mafia. It's possible but I don't think he is.)

Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #323 on: March 17, 2013, 04:18:45 AM »
Shadoweh, can you explain why my case on NNR (see response to Zak) isn't 10/10 worth sheeping to you

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #324 on: March 17, 2013, 04:20:01 AM »
Dan, and I meant sensical, not nonsensical. Wait a second... sensical isn't a WORD. Okay, I'm going to stop posting now, I only should have stopped like half an hour ago >_>
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #325 on: March 17, 2013, 07:45:44 AM »
Sundays suck.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #326 on: March 17, 2013, 08:23:32 AM »
> Wakes up

> Suddenly 2 and a half more pages.

Well damnit.

A blank vote after a post would imply that it is that post that I consider bad enough to warrant lynching, but apparently we're still at the 'it twitched weird maybe we can lynch it' stage. This post is a miraculous waste of time. If Raikaria really wanted to know if Dan had discovered a scumslip, ie if he were actually hunting for scum instead of trying to ride the Dan wave, he would be LOOKING FOR THE GOD DAMN SLIP HIMSELF. Since he's literally doing nothing but posting about voting Dan and waiting for him to explain this scumslip, it's not like he has anything better to do.

On top of that, it is not that big of a deal. Not explaining your reads is NOT SCUMMY. Doing this is causing people to vote Dan in the first place and making a huge ruckus. This isn't a scum-motivated action. Instead it's taking a reason to coast and driving it into the ground, while when this mystical explanation actually happens, he already stated he intends to just hop off and consider someone else! No, how about we consider lynching YOU right now?

I direct you to #215, where I agree with your statement that I cannot see a scumslip

That implies that I tried to find one. Suddenly your basis of the argument 'Why are you not looking for it?' loses all premise. Also that argument has no point on the following:
Why would Dan not explain it in the first place?
What is the benefit for Dan not explaining it?

All he could possibly accomplish is wasting town's time. Which is anti-town. Combined with the rest of of his behavior, and a lynch is long justified. Give me one thing Dan has said or done that has the slightest whiff of being town.

The quote in the linked post also implies you tried to find the scumslip and couldn't.

As a result, asking for explanation, how on earth is that scummy?

I said I would consider voting someone else. I also said 'unless anything else happens'. I'm basically saying 'At this current moment, Dan looks the scummiest because of X, but he can do Y and my vote loses it's main meaning'. Of course I can't keep voting Dan for his invisible scumread [on top of other things], when he 'explains' it.

So basically, you're voting me because:
You can't find the scumread either
You don't seem to want to know what the scumread is
You somehow think it's town to say 'Hey guys there's a huge scumread here you should totally vote this guy! I won't explain why even when multiple people say they can see no scumread!'

I'm curious what caused the U-Turn on seemingly wanting to know what the scumread is in #214, and your attitude in the quote above.

You are being completely nonsensical. How on earth you can even justify that behavior as town is beyond me. And seeing as that's the only thing beyond about 3 words Dan has posted all game, it's all we have to go with. At worst for us he's an anti-town townie not playing, and at best for us he's scum.

In fact, I said I'd keep on Actiondan unless something else happens. It has. You're proving completely nonsensical defenses for blatantly anti-town behavior. If Dan keeps being useless someone can nuke him. You're voting someone for attacking someone who has not done a single town thing all game. Do you realize how that makes you look?

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I'll comment on other stuff after my head clears of Shadoweh stupidity.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)ng I've been on NNR's side
« Reply #327 on: March 17, 2013, 08:41:24 AM »
Oh, to add to the above, accusing me of wagon riding when I started the wagon and was on ActionDan all game is a bit silly too. It's not like I jumped on.

I'm not the only one who's said that Shadoweh's reactions towards me are scummy either, before the above is accused of OMGUS by Shadoweh.

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BT has posted more, and I'm getting an overall town read from his post in general.

On the matter of IHNN; I don't really understand what is going on for the reasons, because I don't understand the whole HW plan that seems core to the reasoning for the votes and arguments.  So I fail to understand what is *so* bad about what he is saying. We're assuming people even followed any plan. I sure didn't.

on the other hand that would mean i can't nuke scum!nnr if i get lynched

Why would you be softclaiming FailSafe D1, except to scare people off lynching you [Which doesn't even work like that it turns out] Can't read too much into this since Failsafe doesn't work on lynches, but still, don't like this line.

On the other hand HW has finally given a reason for his NNR hate, which I actually agree with as well. Every time HW seems to do something I think is scummy, he does something that I think is town right after @_@

Really thinking BRK is town. I'm not sure what specifically is making me get such a strong townread on him, but I'm getting one.

I think Ran is town, even if he's anti-me. I'm curious what rubs him the wroing way from BRK, however, but he states he's not sure either. Considering I'm not sure what rubs me the right way either, I can't exactly call him out too much on that fact anyway @_@

For the sake of maybe finding the answer to that, why did you drop Raikaria and why will you not pick up the spear of vengeance against him?

Also this is bad. Real bad. What the hell is Shadoweh saying here? Spear of vengeance against me? If anything I've been leaning to being on NNR's side. More Shadoweh gibberish, and more reason to vote him.

this was the slip for those still oblivious.

There is no taking into account the SK.  and if SK is included in the word "scum" then there are only 3 slots instead of 4. 

Also from simply skimming the thread, Serela is also scum.  Like it's immpossible for Serela not to be scum based on the post where he votes me.

Shadoweh's town.

I'm still perfectly happy with an ActionDan lynch, by the way, as he continues to say stuff with 0 use, 0 effort, and 0 explanation. Why is Shadoweh town except for the fact he/she is attempting to get me off you? Why are you STILL not explaining the slip, but acknowledging it?

Serela pls don't use Yellow @_@

And then it's a bunch of meta which I cannot comment on.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #328 on: March 17, 2013, 08:43:07 AM »
Oh, and the only reason AD gives for Serela!Scum is 'He voted me'.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 1, DEFCON 3)
« Reply #329 on: March 17, 2013, 09:58:09 AM »
PX fails to dodge a prod


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