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Re: Stuff you wish to see in fandom more
« Reply #150 on: September 13, 2012, 05:26:01 AM »
Nurikabe as an early-stage boss or midboss?

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« Reply #151 on: September 13, 2012, 09:16:48 AM »
Also, would be interesting if Cirno and Okuu got together as acquaintances. Ice and sun, stupid and stupid...

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« Reply #152 on: September 13, 2012, 11:03:21 AM »
Also, would be interesting if Cirno and Okuu got together as acquaintances. Ice and sun, stupid and stupid...

Ice and Sun ??? The correct should be Ice (Cirno) and Fire(Mokou) , or Sun(Okuu) and Moon(Remilia (?) ) :P
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« Reply #153 on: September 13, 2012, 12:18:11 PM »
Well, I was implying that they are both kind of mentally impaired, and Cirno represents ice, and Okuu represents the sun, which emanates cold and heat, respectively. Then again, seeing two stupids mean fun.

Also, moon can be represented by Reisen, Kaguya, and Eirin. I don't know why, but just came up to me.   :V
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« Reply #154 on: September 13, 2012, 12:26:55 PM »
Mo' like cold fusion amirite

ain't nobody made that joke b'fore

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« Reply #155 on: September 13, 2012, 12:34:14 PM »
Uh, I don't think "mentally impaired" applies to either Cirno or Okuu.

"Human history and growth are both linked closely to strife. Without conflict, humanity would have no impetus for growth. When humans are satisfied with their present condition, they may as well give up on life."

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« Reply #156 on: September 13, 2012, 12:37:43 PM »
Then who is? Yoshika? She has only half a brain, because she's kinda like a zombie. And a meat shield.  :ohdear:
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« Reply #157 on: September 13, 2012, 12:50:15 PM »
As ZUN has said her brain is rotting away and thus "stupid", sure, I guess she could be considered "mentally impaired". All Cirno and Okuu are guilty of is being childish, petulant and impulsive.

"Human history and growth are both linked closely to strife. Without conflict, humanity would have no impetus for growth. When humans are satisfied with their present condition, they may as well give up on life."

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« Reply #158 on: September 13, 2012, 12:53:18 PM »
Yes, you may be right, but back to what I was saying, I rarely see Utsuho and Cirno together. Just imagine what would they do together :O

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« Reply #159 on: September 13, 2012, 01:14:26 PM »
Our own Kimiko Muffin has imagined exactly that.

"Human history and growth are both linked closely to strife. Without conflict, humanity would have no impetus for growth. When humans are satisfied with their present condition, they may as well give up on life."

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« Reply #160 on: September 13, 2012, 01:22:44 PM »
Our own Kimiko Muffin has imagined exactly that.

That was kinda unexpected.  :D

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« Reply #161 on: September 13, 2012, 01:27:01 PM »
Attempted kissing looks hilariously awkward in create.swf.

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« Reply #162 on: September 13, 2012, 04:58:57 PM »
Uhm...to keep the obvious of what I want from flooding every inch of my post like a busted damn during the rainy season. I'll say the following;

- Compound Eyes and wings for Wriggle. Because they look pretty damn nice on her from one this one artist's perspective.

- Mommyzou: I've only seen a few pictures of this but, I find it adorable for Mamizou to be depicted as a sort of mother/grandma figure.

- Badass!Sara: Give her a reason why she's entrusted to be Makai's gate guard. Seriously.

- Troll!Luize: It's a weird thing, but every time I see that one mugshot of her in MS, I can't help but think that she's actually pretty darn heinous underneath it all. Speaking of which, what about her blue haired version from Stage 4?
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« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2012, 12:51:25 AM »
All Cirno and Okuu are guilty of is being childish, petulant and impulsive.

Utusho's also "empty" enough to qualify as a vessel for Yatagarasu though. That doesn't sound like garden variety childishness or impulsiveness to me. She's an airhead, a birdbrain.

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« Reply #164 on: September 14, 2012, 03:26:29 AM »
Utusho's also "empty" enough to qualify as a vessel for Yatagarasu though. That doesn't sound like garden variety childishness or impulsiveness to me. She's an airhead, a birdbrain.

Yeah, Okuu is pretty birdbrained. Except when it comes to Nuclear energy. Then she literally kicks anyone's asses.

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« Reply #165 on: September 14, 2012, 04:31:42 AM »
I'm not exactly sure if Yoshika being portrayed as "brain-dead" is that accurate.  To my knowledge, Chinese zombies are smarter compared to Western zombies.

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« Reply #166 on: September 14, 2012, 04:42:53 AM »
I'm not exactly sure if Yoshika being portrayed as "brain-dead" is that accurate.  To my knowledge, Chinese zombies are smarter compared to Western zombies.

Yeah, but as far as Touhou is concerned her physical brain wasn't preserved as well as the rest of her. So Yoshika is a bit LITERALLY braindead. :V

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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2012, 05:01:27 AM »
But you also do not need a brain to be smart. That is just a human limitation.

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« Reply #168 on: September 14, 2012, 05:18:56 AM »
But you also do not need a brain to be smart. That is just a human limitation.
Only if you have a reasonable basis for assuming the character in question's brains don't work similarly to human ones. Yoshika is a zombie, not a deity or spirit.

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« Reply #169 on: September 14, 2012, 05:22:35 AM »
Couldn't you just right "Be Intelligent" on her ofuda?

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« Reply #170 on: September 14, 2012, 05:55:24 AM »
Couldn't you just write "Be Intelligent" on her ofuda?

That...would make sense.

Except she'd only do that, it would be her only task. So she'd spend her days reading and learning... only to forget everything shortly after. (rotten brain = bad memory)
And we all know Seiga doesn't want a meat-shield that can invoke the human rights to get a syndicate :V

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« Reply #171 on: September 14, 2012, 12:04:54 PM »
But you also do not need a brain to be smart. That is just a human limitation.

Pretty sure humans are not the only species which need a brain to be smart.

And Yoshika is canonically stupid. ZUN stated in an interview that he purposefully gave her a rotting brain and made her stupid. Don't see much room for interpretation there.

Utusho's also "empty" enough to qualify as a vessel for Yatagarasu though. That doesn't sound like garden variety childishness or impulsiveness to me. She's an airhead, a birdbrain.

Not seeing anything in her profile indicating as such, and I think this is based on pure fanon. She became possessed, which gives no indication of intelligence either way.

"Human history and growth are both linked closely to strife. Without conflict, humanity would have no impetus for growth. When humans are satisfied with their present condition, they may as well give up on life."

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« Reply #172 on: September 14, 2012, 01:52:54 PM »
I think starx was just making a reference to Remilia's quote in EoSD, "humans are the only creatures that need a simple organ for cognition" (the current wiki translation is "Humans are the only ones who need simple chemical thought centers such as brains", but that isn't nearly as catchy).
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« Reply #173 on: September 14, 2012, 03:16:35 PM »
Not seeing anything in her profile indicating as such, and I think this is based on pure fanon. She became possessed, which gives no indication of intelligence either way.
The idea that she could only be possessed by the Yatagarasu by being empty headed comes from her Symposium of Post Mysticism page:

"(Possessing a divine spirit) could be only done by one having no personality, as well as being unnamed, and without attachments, as well as having a great deal of tolerance that accepts everything. A lot of effort is also necessary. The easiest way would be to make your head completely hollow. "

As for the thread's topic...
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« Reply #174 on: September 14, 2012, 03:37:22 PM »
Personally I see Utsuho as being much less 'HERP DE DERP MAH SPOON IS TOO BIG' and more that she currently has so much rattling around in her brain that she comes off as being incredibly absentminded about things that don't relate to nuclear physics. She used to be a childish and relatively innocent bird who had lived in a Hell that wasn't being used anymore all her life, with no knowledge of pretty much anything outside of the former Hell of Blazing Fires, and then suddenly she turned into a master of one of the most powerful scientific forces in the universe literally overnight. She probably has to run through calculations and plans in the back of her head all the time to both ensure that she remains stable and that all the suns and reactions she creates also remain stable, not to mention how much she has to keep an eye on when she's analyzing the reactor on Youkai Mountain.

That said, I think the things I want to see tend to contradict what other people want to see. Medicine being the potentially sadistic and hate-filled poison monster that she comes off as. Utsuho being secretly very intelligent despite coming off as a complete dumbass most of the time.  Alice acting slightly 'off', as one might expect from someone who acts through countless dolls that she controls and interacts with them as if they were actually other people, maybe even holding one-sided rambling conversations with herself. Patchouli as a semi-flippant, socially awkward, lounge-about nerd rather than a crippled degenerate. Sakuya using her time/space powers more often in daily life to get regular work done, yet somehow never having much free time that other people see.

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« Reply #175 on: September 14, 2012, 03:48:30 PM »
And Yoshika is canonically stupid. ZUN stated in an interview that he purposefully gave her a rotting brain and made her stupid. Don't see much room for interpretation there.

I'm now sure some fans will make some sort of crazy insane conspiracy on how Yoshika is Meiling's lost sister/mother/Meiling herself who died and that it explains the similarities.

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« Reply #176 on: September 14, 2012, 06:58:55 PM »
The idea that she could only be possessed by the Yatagarasu by being empty headed comes from her Symposium of Post Mysticism page:

"(Possessing a divine spirit) could be only done by one having no personality, as well as being unnamed, and without attachments, as well as having a great deal of tolerance that accepts everything. A lot of effort is also necessary. The easiest way would be to make your head completely hollow. "

Kanako also briefly explains why she chose Utsuho to be the vessel in the symposium part:

"The simpler the holder's brain is, the better able they are to control the great power."
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« Reply #177 on: September 14, 2012, 07:09:34 PM »
Alright, I can concede the point on Utsuho, but I'd add that "simple" doesn't always mean stupid. I mean she's had a pretty simple life. Probably not real book smart and not a little bit sheltered, to be sure, but flat-out stupid, not so sure.

"Human history and growth are both linked closely to strife. Without conflict, humanity would have no impetus for growth. When humans are satisfied with their present condition, they may as well give up on life."

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« Reply #178 on: September 14, 2012, 07:40:44 PM »
Alright, I can concede the point on Utsuho, but I'd add that "simple" doesn't always mean stupid. I mean she's had a pretty simple life. Probably not real book smart and not a little bit sheltered, to be sure, but flat-out stupid, not so sure.

I don't think anyone here think Okuu is braindead and can barely remember to breathe; It's more like an ignorant child. She's not very smart, nor able to think about complicated stuff. In Hisoutensoku, Sanae barely says ''Hey, take me to your leader!'' and she's pretty much ''Ok :D''

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« Reply #179 on: September 14, 2012, 07:58:49 PM »
Children can think about complicated stuff. They may get it wrong, but that's just because they lack experience or knowledge. Utsuho seems to have trouble thinking in the first place. She's "particularly dull".