Angel Beats! Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win

[BT]

Well, I tried making my life easier by focusing on the more plausible wagons, only to find that I don't like the Shadoweh wagon either as it is at the moment; most of the votes are some variant of "lol prodding Serela". It's not off to push her about that but it is off lynching her over other people for it, it's simply taking the easy way out. I'd want Kilga to explan Shadoweh > Affinity, or even Shadoweh > Neko.

Other things. The more I look at Dan's case the more I'm going with my gut about it being scum pointing out townie errors. There's also the part about handwaving people as 'will read later'. Of course, no one would follow a case based on gut so waste of time = avoided.

I think I've firmly established that I can't read Affinity for the life of me. Would lynch over HW or Shadoweh as a last resort.

... Gah, I cleared Omba the exact same way in SYWTBBT, didn't I? "He seems town *handwave* oh, he wasn't? :derp:"

##Vote Omba

Scratch the above, gonna sheep to rightous Affinity town. Seeing the HW jump as bad and a swift way of joining the wagon in favor of my own. That too - the realization that my wagon is not solid does not seem authentic more than it seems a chance to switch votes. I was willing to mark cheerleading my wagon as 'probably not scum tho' but not so much now.

Keeping an eye on Dan and to an extent Shadoweh.

cut - ok

[BT]

But really, it's safe to assume you're being serious, eh? And why Neko? Is it because of "bad HW case?" since he's not the only one guilty of that.

[Omba]

I'm just going to assume rawr is not neighbours with huhwhat...

##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh

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[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount

Conqueror (0): DrRawr, huh what, Shadoweh
huh what (3): Omba, Kilgamayan, Pesco, Affinity, NekoNekoRex, Lady Lambdadelta, Omba
Lady Lambdadelta (0): Kilgamayan, huh what, BT, Conqueror, huh what
ActionDan (0): BT
NekoNekoRex (1): BT, Serela, Kilgamayan, ActionDan, DrRawr
Kilgamayan (0): Serela, Shadoweh, Conqueror, Lady Lambdadelta, Serela, DrRawr
Omba (1): huh what, Affinity, Affinity, BT
Shadoweh (3): Conqueror, huh what, Serela, Affinity, Kilgamayan, Serela, DrRawr, Omba
Serela (0): Shadoweh, Affinity
Affinity (0):
DrRawr (0): DrRawr
Pesco (0): ActionDan
BT (2): NekoNekoRex, Conqueror, Omba, Conqueror, Shadoweh

Not voting: Nobody

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

You have ~10.5 hours remaining

[Dr Rawr]

@BT hes been stretching the LLDs reaction thing pretty far also its d3 its all hes got. Which stands out the most on being scummy

[Dr Rawr]

i should throw reasons why on voting on the same post im voting....

[Omba]

Still don't think Neko being /headdesk worthy is indicative of him being scum, btw.

[Dr Rawr]

then why are you voting shadoweh?

[Omba]

huhwhat: That was probably too vaguely worded on my part. The point was: It being a way to forcibly jump-start discussion was clearly obvious after staring at her posts for more than 5 seconds. Based on just that you might not get a town read on her (because there are ways that by itself could make sense as scum), but the fact that there are valid motives to do it for either alignment at least should be clear. That you then went on to accuse her of backtracking sealed the deal for me when added to the gut read I already had on you.
Might have been somewhat biased in that assessment because my thought process prior to her doing that roughly went like this:
Omba: Uh, there's not much happening. Someone should claim miller or something. I might actually do that... wait, that's not going to work anymore since the players are more or less used to early miller claims now. Eh, what do?
LLD: *BOOM*
Omba: ... What the... ... Cool.

Conq: The fact that BT totally jumped on Dan for -lol not much content- after being V/LA. The not probing LLD when he had voiced suspicion of her added to that afterwards. Then later on re-evaluation I saw that neither of those points are so decidedly scummy as I thought they were (the latter one in particular). Still think he's slightly scummy, but don't think he should be lynched today.

Also Shadoweh is abominable. Lynch with fire.

--cut

[BT]

My kingdom for a Pesco post.

One with actual content, I mean. 8 hours aren't a lot!

[Omba]

Shadoweh case: Content = Tunnel Serela + otherwise mostly throwaway stuff (in particular no reads) -> vote BT
The tunnel by itself doesn't mean that much because she's done it now and then. The laying low added to that? Hang please.

[Omba]

Seriously, just skim over the game and look at her posts. Then vote accordingly.

[Lexicat]

Would anyone like to help me kill Conq?
 
Because this post below needs rope.
 

My vote on LLD was just to prove a point; if it were a serious vote I would have kept it.  Her antics this game are irritating me, but I don't think she's scum. There are a few others I'd lynch before her.

I don't have a non-waffly opinion on you because your play viscerally reminds me of Iffrita, but the votes on you are individually pretty bad and I can't really pinpoint what my gut is trying to say about you (not to mention my gut was wrong about you in previous games). But I already said you weren't a good vote for today anyway.

As for who I think is scum, that's the tricky one. I'm pretty apprehensive at the wagons right now because I think we're collectively barking up the wrong tree(s).
I'm actually going to go back and ##Vote: BT because Dan's posts read better to me on reread and I suspect BT's psuedo-capitulation at the end of our exchange was an attempt at appeasement. I think BT saw Dan's post before his, saw an easy way to get involved with a vote, and jumped on. What differentiates Dan from the other non-content posters such as Pesco, for instance? BT hasn't been very involved with the game otherwise, and I still think his responses to me are slippery with regards to how he was pushing the Dan case.

[Omba]

I'm seeing it, but not quite sure which of him and Shadoweh to lynch.
What do you think of a Shadoweh lynch?

[Omba]

It is 0 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes, 28 seconds

until Wednesday, 4 July 2012, 09:00:00 (Sydney time)

FFS

[Serela]

Shadoweh needs to die so I'm fine with where my vote is. The post where she votes BT is just... I have no words. What is this :I If you don't see Shadoweh!scum you probably should go reread her posts and realize how crappy they all are.

She's by far the only person I feel comfortable about lynching right now. I can sort of see some reasons why I miiight go for BT scum but not interested because there's Shadoweh.

Also what's this TK thing people are talking about in relation to Pesco? I have no idea what this TK thing is.

Conq is probably town, and not in the way he was last game where I shot him a couple hours later.

HW being all "Me and rawr are waiting for you to post in our QT ;_;" is funnier in hindsight now that we know they're ~*~actually masons~*~.

[Dr Rawr]

wait shadoweh voted bt? what :|

[Dr Rawr]

im sure shadoweh has a good explanation for not doing anymore then me :V(remembers path of radiance)

[ActionDan]

Would anyone like to help me kill Conq?
 
Because this post below needs rope.

ITT: you don't vote him.
Also no, not interested.
Why are you voting Hw again LLD?

no time now.  I'll be here 1 hour before deadline.

Neko's responses are scummy.  Justification of Vote is still something like:  HW :mad: at LLD when he shouldn't be = "Vote:HW"  Still no indication why this makes HW scummy or anything of the like. 

Oddly Kilga pinging my gut.  Seems too aloof.

as far as wagons go I'd vote Serela over Shadoweh because Serela is lurk-a-derping and fuck my town reads.  Not that Shadoweh is off the table.  Could go for LLD and Kilga but I'll take Shadoweh to a lynch over those two.

Still think Neko is best wagon. 

-cut. Ok nvm.  Serela not interested in.

W/e I'll go Neko --> Shadoweh.  Will support the strongest wagon by deadline.

[Pesco]

just going to say that me and him are masons

A Trap, dude

##Vote: HW

[ActionDan]

A Trap, dude

##Vote: HW

The fuck is wrong with you

[ActionDan]

New theory:

PEsco is scum testing the playerbase to see how lenient they will be with hardcore lurkers.

[BT]

Justification of Vote is still something like:  HW :mad: at LLD when he shouldn't be = "Vote:HW"  Still no indication why this makes HW scummy or anything of the like.

No indication why this makes Neko scummy either.

By the way, no, would not lynch. Can we just lynch Omba please?

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

rawr is telling the truth, I am indeed Yuri Nakamura, Leader of the Afterlife War Front(Mason). I didn't really read the flavor because it was some anime mopey shit but the ability is called Friends For Life? on my end. Crumbs should be pretty obvious I guess.

Catching up but wanted to address this first because he said he claimed in the quicktopic

[Dr Rawr]

inb4danhitsonhuhwhat

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Also what's this TK thing people are talking about in relation to Pesco? I have no idea what this TK thing is.

Pesco is a teamkiller who doesn't read his role PM then tunnels on his scumbuddies

[Pesco]

Like an invatation to the crazy carnival

##Vote: HW

[Kilgamayan]

Quick work post. Don't get used to these.

> Too aloof
> Day 1

lel

TK = character from show. My understand that he is only character in show worth Mafia RPing.

Gutjerk away from BT lynch, still don't remember much of him throughout day but both BT votes sketchy at best.

Whoever asked: Shadowert's vote bad and meaningful presence very little otherwise. This worse than Akinity or NNR who have both tried harder if nothing else.

Can someone please post an Omba case summary for me to digest when I get home? Thanks.

[NekoNekoRex]

I really appreciate the dedication of you guys to make 2 new pages of Mafia every time I wake up in the morning and barely post at all when I'm actually awake

[Dr Rawr]

New theory:

PEsco is scum testing the playerbase to see how lenient they will be with hardcore lurkers.

new theory pesco is a lyncher an hes gunning for his target face first