MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN

[ICE]

@ran: no silly, a small mistake gets anyone lynched.  This is mafia.  Any halfway competent player is going to be town regardless of alignment 90% of the time.  This is a game of those 10%.

As for why shadoweh is town... Sekrets ^_^

Now that youve admitted your pressure wagon is ~*~silly~*~ and lame, do you have any actual scumreads?  Or is your vote a useless waste that you'll leave in useless places?

Now little Ran Ran, whose scum here?  Or is the entire game one big null void that you can't possiy scumhunt in?

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I dislike you. I have yet to discern whether this is simply due to playstyle differences, or you being scummy.
I will note that I dislike how you still have yet to explain why you felt it prudent to point out Trixie(PX)'s OMGUS, yet you simply ignored Shadoweh who did the same thing.

I don't like Shadoweh. I suppose that I could quote her on the whole "killing intent" thing.

As for everyone else, they either read townie to me or haven't posted enough.

[ActionDan]

l2n to Dormio.   And by that I mean this is town Dormio.   super volatile and passive-aggressive, not haughty and condescending.   There is a difference,  think Vanilla mafia II.  Of course, Dormio, you should have said you weren't serious a while back >_>.   

HW is pretty townie, I get everything you're saying, but obviously I don't think Dormio is the scum.  Also Greyice is a bit too quick to condem Px for a Px-like rvs vote (well even without px meta it's still not a scum-tell), otherwise he's ok.

I'll chuck in a town read for I have no name as well

I'm dumb.  Shadoweh: Huehuehuehuehuehuehue. 

So these guys:

I'm all for three scum across three bandwagons.  Also, OMGUS.

##Vote: Shadoweh

This is really obtuse coming from you.  What are you thinking?

So much dormio hate going on here...
##Vote Shadoweh
DONT WORRY DORMIO IM WITH YOU

It's as if you are trying to make people believe you are adding your voice and opinion to a developing argument while making room for yourself to call your vote simply RVS by tying it in with Dormio's RVS joke-wagon.  You didn't change your vote or say anything of note later, so I'm taking this to mean you value your vote to some extent, so, why Shadoweh?

This thing between dormio and shadoweh looks dumb the more i read it
##unvote
##vote: shadoweh

Why Shadoweh?

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

cuts- Your Sekrets are my magical pixie sticks.

I'm thinking about claiming D1!  It might be exciting

[Shadoweh]

It's only cool if you die for reals this time

Will reread and make better post when able to keep eyes open and possklre see keybird i a, type with

[ActionDan]

It's only cool if you die for reals this time

Will reread and make better post when able to keep eyes open and possklre see keybird i a, type with

Yeah, take a nap or something.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Of course, Dormio, you should have said you weren't serious a while back >_>.   

>Implying that I am ever serious about my ED1 votes.

Anyway, Dan.
What's up with the ShadyK hate? What makes him worse than Rawr and Affinity? (And me.)

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

To clarify, both your points on Rawr and ShadyK seem to boil down to "Why Shadoweh?".
What puts ShadyK as scummier than Rawr?
And what does being obtuse make Affinity? Is it scummy?

[ActionDan]

>Implying that I am ever serious about my ED1 votes.

Anyway, Dan.
What's up with the ShadyK hate? What makes him worse than Rawr and Affinity? (And me.)

Dormio, don't play dumb.  You should know quite well that half this playerlist wouldn't be able to determine whether or not you were serious, especially after post #33.

I feel the way ShadyK phrased his vote post was designed to take as little responsibly as possible for the vote, which is more prototypical of scum.  The three of them need more posts for me to separate the wheat from the chaf.  And I think you are town >:|

To clarify, both your points on Rawr and ShadyK seem to boil down to "Why Shadoweh?".
What puts ShadyK as scummier than Rawr?
And what does being obtuse make Affinity? Is it scummy?

Affinity's post suggests he has inclinations against Shadoweh, yourself, and GreyIce, but it's vague enough that its meaning could be tailored later.  It is scummy.


Dormio, I really resent your last two posts.  In that you are needling me without taking a stance yourself by either validating my concerns or telling me I'm wrong.  In fact, why don't you do that now.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I find your line of thought to be agreeable, but do not think that ShadyK is necessarily worse than the others.
Like you say, more words from them would be nice.

And with that, it's past midnight. Farewell.

[ICE]

Hey Ran, are you serious about your shadoweh vote or not? 

#58 you state this wagon on Shadoweh isn't serious.
#60 you state that you don't like Shadoweh's comment.

Money where your mouth is, right now, Ran Ran.  Is this a serious wagon?  Or is this a joke wagon, and you plan to move your vote somewhere useful?  'cause you've flipflopped so often you should open a beach supply store. 

[ActionDan]

If the 2004 US presidential election taught me anything, it's that flipflopping accusations are often taken out of context. 

Dormio is claiming that he isn't serious about pushing her for the lynch.  In #61 Dormio doesn't like Shadoweh because he thinks that Shadoweh has the "killing intent" against Dormio (that's how I read it anyway).  Meanwhile he's still thinking about who could be scum.  I'm going to appeal to Hw here and argue that this phenomenom is what happened to me in Schezo's game when I parked my vote on Serela.

Seriously grey, try to dissociate the wagon from Shadoweh's wagon from Dormio, and try to go DEEPER.  Think of the votepark on Shadoweh in the way that your vote has been left on Px.  Also what do you think of Affinity, Rawr, and ShadyK?

Also stick with addessing him as Dormio.

[ES-Anthy]

Giving a qick opinion from current affairs since I slept in this morning, shitty phone net is shitty .<.

I'm keeping my vote on ICE for just how, well gunho/rabid I'm feeling about ICE's defense of shafoweh, with no explanation other than a secret.

Honestly it's rusling my jimmies and secrets between townies brought up with detail is high herasy :fordaemparah:

Shadoweh and dormio feels more like a cat fight to be honest, though it is somewhat noticable how fiesty dormio is.  Anyone else is feeling bleh at best and specific post referencing is nigh impossible from my crackberry.

[ICE]

If the 2004 US presidential election taught me anything, it's that flipflopping accusations are often taken out of context. 

Dormio is claiming that he isn't serious about pushing her for the lynch.  In #61 Dormio doesn't like Shadoweh because he thinks that Shadoweh has the "killing intent" against Dormio (that's how I read it anyway).  Meanwhile he's still thinking about who could be scum.  I'm going to appeal to Hw here and argue that this phenomenom is what happened to me in Schezo's game when I parked my vote on Serela.

Seriously grey, try to dissociate the wagon from Shadoweh's wagon from Dormio, and try to go DEEPER.  Think of the votepark on Shadoweh in the way that your vote has been left on Px.  Also what do you think of Affinity, Rawr, and ShadyK?

Also stick with addessing him as Dormio.

Ah, so the fact that Trixie hasn't posted anything makes Trixie... more likely to be town?


Hmmmmm...

Your logic, it does not resemble our earth logic

[Shadoweh]

>_> That was a normal sentence when I typed it last night.

I wanted to get a good read on the game when I woke up but instead I feel like I'm looking at a void in which only Dormio, ICE and Dan are floating exchanging laser fire. Dan, if you're convinced this is the kind of thing Dormio does as town, there's no point in pursuing his passive--aggressive questioning of you unless you want to start a fight with your town reads.

Grey: is bad at being subtle.
Dormio: lashing out at someone for holding back information is what I'd call a typical reaction of him.  Since he's chatting with people I perceive as town it's understandable that he hasn't found a better purchase for his vote either. Also about Dormio playing dumb.. :V Dormio what exactly don't you like about me besides that I responded to your pointed anger with returned hostility? Look I'm giving you more material to make an answer by. <^_^>
Dan: is town by the way. If anyone tries to shoot him again I will nail you to the god damn wall. >:<
I have no name: sounds town for #51. It's an honest kind of statement that comes from a town state of mind.
ShadyK: hasn't made that leap from joke stage to Serious Time. If it's a case of first-time jitters, I'll just advise you to say what's on your mind when you read the arguments people are presenting.
Rawr: I'm pretty sure I asked you a question. =.= If this thing between Shadoweh and Dormio is stupid why are you encouraging it by voting one of us?
Anthy: "Honestly it's rusling my jimmies and secrets between townies brought up with detail is high herasy :fordaemparah:" Something in this sentence does not parse with where you are keeping your vote. Explain why you are voting someone you describe as town.

Huh what's posts don't give me vibes either way yet. Affinity's post is weird but I'm assuming RVS related. Let's vig him without a claim Most people are practicing lurker foo.


I think I'm annoyed at the focus and the absence of so many people from the conversation. I don't know how I feel about the rest but I do know they should get their asses in here or I'm going to start proposing lynches on everyone who hasn't posted on this page.

[Shady_Ghost]

Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.

Why Shadoweh?

kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.  Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...
FakeEdit:PEOPLE SOMETIMES I GET BUSY I WAS GONNA POST EVENTUALLY OMG
##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.

[Shady_Ghost]

God I screwed up my last post fml

[ICE]

Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.  Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...
FakeEdit:PEOPLE SOMETIMES I GET BUSY I WAS GONNA POST EVENTUALLY OMG
##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.

What is this I don't even...

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MY GOD WHAT IS THIS

[ICE]

I swear unto god, if Trixie's response to a vote wasn't to OMGUS and then lurk like a mofo I'd be.... GAH

[Shadoweh]

Have a nice drink. It'll make all the words come up better. I will attempt a fair and unbiased response to that post to allow conversation to continue.

Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.

Let's start here. Why do you feel that you should have unvoted earlier? Do you have any reasons for unvoting me now? How do you feel about Shadoweh?

Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...

What parts make you want to believe ICE is town? What parts make you want to believe ICE is scum? You should be able to look through the argument and find quotes that explain this if you have those feelings, or relate them to how you feel about Dormio and PX themselves.

##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.

Has no name changed his vote alot? I'm not sure how flip floppy applies. The tone of this makes me believe you think Dormio is town, is this correct? If so I'd like a better explanation of why.

[I have no name]

So I wake up, go to class, come back and find I've been guessed as town twice and voted once.

##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.

I've had votes on 2 people so far.  So far I have hunches that the scum are under 4 people, some moreso than others.  I'm placing my vote on who I think is mostly scummy at the time.'

"trying to act as townie" I've never played Mafia before, does that mean I'm doing it right/wrong?

Because I KNOW people are going to ask on my list it's Dormio, ShadyK, ICE and PX, with PX being the least suspicious at the moment.

[Dr Rawr]

huehuehue

@people who asked me the same thing, Why i choose shadoweh over dormio? probably because of the omgus and the fact that i find it weird how on ICE first post he declares shadoweh town for no apparent reason.

@ICE why you no answer questions, not answering questions means youre trying to avoid them, which means youre scum. Put your vote where your mouth is are you going to vote dormio? else what does trixies one post have that makes you want to keep your vote on him?

@ihavenoname, px was scum the last 3 games, it wouldnt be surprising if px ended up scum 4th time in a row :V

@shadoweh I had doubts about both you and dormio because I cant tell if dormio is trying to be serious and voting, and if your omgus on him was serious or not.

##unvote
##Vote:Affinity

Saying hes ok with all three wagons and then voting shadoweh on the omgus.

@affinity why are you ok with ICE shadoweh dormio wagons?

unvoting shadoweh because ive been wrong about shadoweh before and the fact that her read that dan is town i can agree with but dormio im not so sure about so hes pretty null for me right now.

cut cut cut cut cut cut cut

@ICE In the past couple of games, px has posted very rarely :V. I dont think voting someone based off of one post and lurking is a valid enough reason to vote him or just claim that hes scum no doubt.

[ICE]

Sooo, add Dr. Rawr to the list of people who think Lurking is a Town tell.


The Trixie Diaries:
Posted in a Monopoly game at 12:12
Posted again at 12:48
And again at 12:53
/inned to another game at 12:55 (so apparently she feels she has enough time to play this and another game)
Resolved Diplomacy orders at 1:17

Posted in Mafia at...

[Dr Rawr]

So lurking means auto scum?

[Dr Rawr]

Also hi5 at your active lurking, avoiding questions and making useless posts. cool keep it up 

[ICE]

 Deliberately lurking (as opposed to simply being absent from the site) is quite, quite scummy, yes oh yes it is. 

You seem to have a very strong town read on Trixie though.  Why don't you explain that one? 

P.S.  What questions haven't I answered, hmmmm? 

[Shady_Ghost]

kk let's do this

Let's start here. Why do you feel that you should have unvoted earlier? Do you have any reasons for unvoting me now? How do you feel about Shadoweh?What parts make you want to believe ICE is town? What parts make you want to believe ICE is scum?

Well I shoulda unvoted earlier cuz tbh I had no reason to vote you in the first place.  Looking at this now I don't really see anything scummy in ya yet.  ICE might be town cuz his reasons do make some sense to me. Just his posts in general seem fairly townie. But at the same time he's kind of a drama queen when it comes to any mention of him or you being scum.  Like in #43 soon as a couple votes racked up on ya he was all like 'no get off shadoweh'.  Then I mention the possibility of him being scum and he flips out in #76 with a 'OH GOD WHAT'  It's posts like those that make me feel like he's scum.

Has no name changed his vote alot? I'm not sure how flip floppy applies. The tone of this makes me believe you think Dormio is town, is this correct? If so I'd like a better explanation of why.

Ok flip floppy aint the best word but from what I see he's using another person's reason as a way to change his vote without any input of his own.  Dormio seems town to me at this point yes.  Now I've got a question for you shadoweh.  ICE keeps claiming your town but what I'd like to know is if you consider him town as well.  I mean he's always defending you so why not do the same provided that you think he's town.
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"trying to act as townie" I've never played Mafia before, does that mean I'm doing it right/wrong?
Because I KNOW people are going to ask on my list it's Dormio, ShadyK, ICE and PX, with PX being the least suspicious at the moment.

Does that list mean I'm one of the most suspicous?  If so why do you think this?  Going off a hunch is cool and all but you need some reasoning to back it up.

So lurking means auto scum?

It's a scum habit yeah but doesnt imply that they are 100% scum everytime.
FakeEdit: These posts just keep on comin dont they

[I have no name]

Does that list mean I'm one of the most suspicous?  If so why do you think this?  Going off a hunch is cool and all but you need some reasoning to back it up. It's a scum habit yeah but doesnt imply that they are 100% scum everytime.

Yes.  Your #35 was why I thought so, but before I posted I read through the rest of the thread up to the most recent post.  Someone had already made the point I was going to make, so I said I agreed.

But it's a slow D1, there's not much info so there's not much to go off of but hunches.

If somehting else happens in the next couple minutes I'll respond but if not I have class for 3 hours.

[Dr Rawr]

I never said trixie was town nor have i implied it, try reading my posts. Right now trixie is null do to the fact that he only posted once

Put your vote where your mouth is are you going to vote dormio? else what does trixies one post have that makes you want to keep your vote on him?

GreyICE is pretty town imo, but I'm not feeling his Shadoweh obvtowniest ever read yet. I don't think she's scummy though. Would also like him to explain why PX is worth voting more than Dormio right now.

I will note that I dislike how you still have yet to explain why you felt it prudent to point out Trixie(PX)'s OMGUS, yet you simply ignored Shadoweh who did the same thing.

[ICE]

Ohh, you want to know why I won't take the pressure off a lurker whose response to my post was to run away and hide, to put it on someone who is actively posting and helping me get a better read on them?

Are you by chance very, very new to this game? 

Also, Shadoweh is town, so why do I care what she does?  As well as to ask if I find the moderator scummy

[Dr Rawr]

Please answer my question, i dont need it in a form of a question kthnx

So youre saying you would be ok if shadoweh were to go on a spree getting town lynched just because your secret thing with shadoweh makes her town?