Maidens of the Kaleidoscope

~Beyond the Border~ => Rumia's Party Games => Mystia's Stored Games => Topic started by: Hanged Hourai on February 27, 2012, 06:31:57 PM

Title: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 27, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA

In the Mansion of The Felt, after their chain of counterfeit clock stores had been toppled, some of their numbers had been infiltrated by the ne'er do well scofflaws known as The Midnight Crew. Now these temporal gang members must weed out some of their numbers to lynch these merciless brutes. Grab your nooses kiddies, it's about to get all mafia up in here.


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I'll be your host and mod, Hanged Lord Hourai English. Doc Kitten4UScratch will also be co-modding.



Rules

0. Be nice, have fun, and remember to :D
1. All days will last around 72 hours, depending on my schedule.
2. Nights will be around 24 hours, depending on schedule. Any night actions must be sent in during this time.
2a. Times can be reduced by me anytime depending on activity levels.
3. A majority must be reached to obtain a lynch. No majority = no lynch.
4. Scum have the option to not nightkill.
5. Scum have safeclaims.
6. Votes must be bolded with the double octothorpes, as so: ##Vote: <player>. Same applies to unvotes.
7. Between a hammer and me posting the night phase is HANGMAFIA. No twilight chitchat, just hangmafia.
8. Players must post at least once every 24 hours, or incur a prod. 3 prods and you're out. Not responding 24 hours after a prod will bring about a modkill.
9. Editing posts will bring a penalty upon your head.
10. Players that have died may Bah! once, and it must not be game related.
11. Players may not contact any other player by any means other than in the game thread unless their role permits them to do so.
12. Any private communication may be used at all times.
13. Quoting your role PM will swiftly and throughly bring about a modkill. If in doubt, send the post to the mod first for approval.
14. There is no talking in-thread during night.
15. I will announce when LYLO or Pseudo-LYLO arrives.

Play for fun and to win. Don't make me break up any catfights.


NOT YET DEAD
1. huh what
7. ShadyK
8. I have no name
10. Affinity
12. ICE


COFFIN CLOGGERS
4. PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) playing Snowman, The Felt ? ? ? was lynched Day 1
5. Dr Rawr, playing Matchsticks, The Felt Vanilla Member died Day 1
3. ActionDan, playing Cans, The Felt Tankman was killed Night 1
11. Anthy, playing Sawbuck, The Felt Vanilla Member was lynched Day 2
9. Shadoweh, playing Eggs, The Felt Neighbor was killed Night 2.
6. Serela, playing Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker was lynched Day 3.
2. Dormio, playing Stitch, The Felt Resident Tailor was killed Night 3.

For handy end-day links:
End of Day 1 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798466.html#msg798466)
End of Day 2 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg800227.html#msg800227)
End of Day 3 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg800857.html#msg800857)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 27, 2012, 06:33:19 PM
IT HASS BEGUN
ROLE PMS SENT
CONFIRMING BEGINS
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Shadoweh on February 27, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
YOU
ARE
A
BAAAAAAAAAAAASTAAAAAAARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 27, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
/confirm
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: PX on February 27, 2012, 06:53:37 PM
Trixie has no need to fall down to the levels of common ponies. Trixie does not require a confirmation post, nor shall she entertain you with one.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: ICE on February 27, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
Definitely not confirming either!   :o
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 27, 2012, 07:43:22 PM
I'm here.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: I have no name on February 27, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
I'm most definitely not here as well.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 27, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
I don't know where I am
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: ActionDan on February 27, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
YOU
ARE
A
BAAAAAAAAAAAASTAAAAAAARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Also, anyone here club deuce?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 27, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
/confirm

##Vote Shadoweh
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 27, 2012, 10:44:28 PM
/confirm . < .
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Serela on February 27, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
whee drivers ed

oops brick wall

/confirmed
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 0
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 27, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
Alright, 11/12 people seems good. Game is now OPEN.

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) -
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (0) -
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (0) -
Affinity (0) - 
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: everyone

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 72 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 27, 2012, 10:50:12 PM
##Vote: dormio

Because i never go to last game
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 27, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
##Vote: Dormio
This is what you get for dragging me into the Moronic Colosseum
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 27, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
##Vote Dormio
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on February 27, 2012, 11:07:01 PM
##Vote Huhwhat

third on the wagon is always scum
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 27, 2012, 11:12:22 PM
##Vote Shadoweh

Need I say more?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 27, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
Vote: Trixie

Shadoweh is town~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 27, 2012, 11:14:26 PM
##Vote: ICE

The death of Iggy shall be avenged! . < .
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on February 27, 2012, 11:25:19 PM
The Great and Powerful Trixie requires her beauty sleep. What is so important that it can't wait until morning?!

##Vote: GreyICE
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 27, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
##unvote
##Vote: ICE

orly
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 27, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Serela
Dormio (2) - i have no name, holy what, dr rawr
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (1) - ICE
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) - Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (3) - Anthy, PX, dr rawr

Not voting: Dan, ShadyK, Shadoweh, Affinity

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 71 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 27, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
##Vote: Hourai >:<

WHAT YOU GUYS PICK THE ONE TIME I WON'T MIND YOU ENDING MY SUFFERING TO NOT THREATEN A QUICKLYNCH ON ME? You're all a bunch of fricking sadists.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 27, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
Are you softclaiming non-town?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 12:05:54 AM
No, I have a special multiple choice chart for when that happens.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 12:08:27 AM
Isn't that chart for third party, rather than anti-town?
Refusal to answer questions properly -> Not helping town to best of ability -> obvscum
I think we should lynch her.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 12:11:32 AM
##Vote: Hourai >:<
I considered doing that.
I think we should lynch her.
You seem biased, considering you got IP then immediate turned around and challenged everyone.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 12:14:43 AM
I'm Dormio. Of course I'm biased.
Now, let's lynch Shadoweh. :)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
Hmmhmhmmhhmmmh..

##Vote: Serela

ICE, that post is null.  I'm pretty sure shadoweh is capable of faking all-caps posts by now.  I'll just let her do her thing for a while. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 12:21:48 AM
=.= ##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio


Killing intent behind facade of derp detected. I can feel the evil in you, RELEASE THE DEMONS DORMIO.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 28, 2012, 12:24:25 AM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Serela
Dormio (3) - i have no name, huh what, Shadoweh, dr rawr
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (1) - ICE
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (1) - Dan
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) - Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (3) - Anthy, PX, dr rawr



Not voting: ShadyK, Affinity

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 70 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 12:26:36 AM
Facade?
I am stating my intentions clearly. I wish for you to die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 12:31:36 AM
Facade?
I am stating my intentions clearly. I wish for you to die.

Wait, you were serious?

I was about to chastise Shadoweh that it's totally normal for a Dormio to lovingly lynch a Shadoweh.

Going to dinner.  Don't blow each other up now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 01:24:10 AM
So much dormio hate going on here...
##Vote Shadoweh
DONT WORRY DORMIO IM WITH YOU
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 28, 2012, 01:38:44 AM
=.= ##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio


Killing intent behind facade of derp detected. I can feel the evil in you, RELEASE THE DEMONS DORMIO.
Serious vote or not?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 28, 2012, 01:44:45 AM
Seriously, it's annoying when I can't tell whether I should be taking posts at face value or not because everybody hides their posts under a layer of passive-aggressive references to past metas / games despite sounding mildly serious. Dormio and Shadoweh should stop that.

I'm under the impression Dormio is kidding and Shadoweh is ED1 serious but whatever.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on February 28, 2012, 02:36:52 AM
I'm all for three scum across three bandwagons.  Also, OMGUS.

##Vote: Shadoweh
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 03:08:26 AM
Really? I got the impression dormio was being srs
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 28, 2012, 03:14:01 AM
I don't think we've ever actually enforced a policy lynch unironically.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 03:23:47 AM
This thing between dormio and shadoweh looks dumb the more i read it
##unvote
##vote: shadoweh
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 03:32:01 AM
The Great and Powerful Trixie requires her beauty sleep. What is so important that it can't wait until morning?!

##Vote: GreyICE
ooh, an early OMGUS.  Fish in a barrel and me with my shotgun~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 03:37:44 AM
Also boys and girls, get the fuck off of shadoweh.

Now.

I want to lynch scum today.  That means Trixie or Ran.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 03:46:07 AM
Er why trixie or ran?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 04:06:28 AM
Er why trixie or ran?
oh Trixie is just so very fake and that OMGUS was lame.

We'll go with "gut" on Ran until she gives me enough rope to hang her.  Which at this rate will be soon.

You have a golden one-time ticket.  Get your vote off town right now and put it somewhere useful and I'll give you a cookie.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 04:27:47 AM
You wanna die, punk?
What makes you believe that, at this point, Shadoweh is town?

Are you saying that you would have me lynched for naught but "gut"?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 04:28:45 AM
Also, why point out the fact that Trixie(PX) used OMGUS, but not Shadoweh when Shadoweh did the same?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 04:31:10 AM
##Unvote
##Vote: ICE
The odds both PX and Dormio rolled scum 2 games in a row are pretty slim.  Dormio hasn't done anything scummy yet, PX maybe has, but bribery/looking for a quicklynch feels off to me.

Also not much information is surfacing today.  Maybe there will be more in the morning.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Nah, don't feel like it.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Stop it Ran.
Also, why point out the fact that Trixie(PX) used OMGUS, but not Shadoweh when Shadoweh did the same?
Because only PX used the term?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 04:34:23 AM
And why are you justifying the actions of someone that you're voting for?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 04:34:58 AM
huh what is correct and I'm being as serious as one can be at this point. Killing intent is different from the regular sappy way Dormio throws votes in my direction. They're usually like love taps, but now I feel like he's ready to take a ride.

Rawr, if this 'thing' is stupid, why are you voting me for it instead of Dormio?

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 04:36:46 AM
And why are you justifying the actions of someone that you're voting for?
I'm not justifying, I'm trying to understand the motives behind it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 28, 2012, 04:39:38 AM
##Unvote
...
##Vote Dormio. Again. That was a pretty crazy and overreactive attempt to discredit to somebody not even voting you. Seems like you're attacking him while not actually voting him because you're scared.

also way to ignore my prying you dick

GreyICE is pretty town imo, but I'm not feeling his Shadoweh obvtowniest ever read yet. I don't think she's scummy though. Would also like him to explain why PX is worth voting more than Dormio right now.

The odds both PX and Dormio rolled scum 2 games in a row are pretty slim.
One of these days I'm going to host and purposefully rig the RNG to make the scum team the exact same as the scum team from the previous game.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 04:45:12 AM
You wanna die, punk?
What makes you believe that, at this point, Shadoweh is town?

Are you saying that you would have me lynched for naught but "gut"?
I'd have you lynched for saying one wrong thing in one wrong place.  And I'm right to do it.

Part of it is you're pushing this shadoweh business in a very stop and go manner.  #29 you remove pressure, now you're trying to act like this is 100% serious. 

Plus you got a WONDERFUL "why her" on my other scum read which is just amazing.

Can we do this?  YES WE CAN
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 04:47:43 AM
ALSO
IF YOU FUCKS TRY TO GAME RANDOM.ORG THERE WILL BE WORDS.

If you flip heads 8 times in a row, your odds of getting heads on the next flip are?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 04:48:38 AM
If you flip heads 8 times in a row, your odds of getting heads on the next flip are?
6/7
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 04:50:15 AM
If you flip heads 8 times in a row, your odds of getting heads on the next flip are?
100% if it's a coin with heads on both sides.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 04:52:04 AM
##Unvote
If you flip heads 8 times in a row, your odds of getting heads on the next flip are?
1/3.  It could land on its edge.

now to be serious
Still 1 in 2.
But the odds of 9 heads in a row are 1 in 512.

I know the odds of the 2 previous scum being scum this game are the same as any 2 people, I just found it interesting how those were the 2 you targeted.

That was a pretty crazy and overreactive attempt to discredit to somebody not even voting you. Seems like you're attacking him while not actually voting him because you're scared.
Agreeing.
##Vote Dormio
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 04:55:19 AM
That was a pretty crazy and overreactive attempt to discredit to somebody not even voting you. Seems like you're attacking him while not actually voting him because you're scared.
I'm assuming that this refers to myself in regards to GreyICE, in which case, I must protest.
I was asking to get a better grasp on his thoughts process.
Also, me, scared? What are you smoking?

I'd have you lynched for saying one wrong thing in one wrong place.  And I'm right to do it.
So what you're saying is that you have a gut read that I'm scum, and would therefore use a single mistake to have my lynched. Right?

Part of it is you're pushing this shadoweh business in a very stop and go manner.  #29 you remove pressure, now you're trying to act like this is 100% serious. 
It was never serious. Shadoweh is where I keep my vote whenever I'm trying to determine who's scummy.

Plus you got a WONDERFUL "why her" on my other scum read which is just amazing.
I think that it's rather wonderful that you never bothered to answer me too.

Can we do this?  YES WE CAN
Damn extremists.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 28, 2012, 04:55:38 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Serela
Dormio (3) -  huh what, Shadoweh,  i have no name, dr rawr,
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (1) - ICE
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (1) - Dan
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (4) - Dormio, ShadyK, Affinity, dr rawr
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, PX, dr rawr, i have no name



Not voting: No one

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~65 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 06:02:03 AM
@ran: no silly, a small mistake gets anyone lynched.  This is mafia.  Any halfway competent player is going to be town regardless of alignment 90% of the time.  This is a game of those 10%.

As for why shadoweh is town... Sekrets ^_^

Now that youve admitted your pressure wagon is ~*~silly~*~ and lame, do you have any actual scumreads?  Or is your vote a useless waste that you'll leave in useless places?

Now little Ran Ran, whose scum here?  Or is the entire game one big null void that you can't possiy scumhunt in?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 06:16:29 AM
I dislike you. I have yet to discern whether this is simply due to playstyle differences, or you being scummy.
I will note that I dislike how you still have yet to explain why you felt it prudent to point out Trixie(PX)'s OMGUS, yet you simply ignored Shadoweh who did the same thing.

I don't like Shadoweh. I suppose that I could quote her on the whole "killing intent" thing.

As for everyone else, they either read townie to me or haven't posted enough.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 06:22:49 AM
l2n to Dormio.   And by that I mean this is town Dormio.   super volatile and passive-aggressive, not haughty and condescending.   There is a difference,  think Vanilla mafia II.  Of course, Dormio, you should have said you weren't serious a while back >_>.   

HW is pretty townie, I get everything you're saying, but obviously I don't think Dormio is the scum.  Also Greyice is a bit too quick to condem Px for a Px-like rvs vote (well even without px meta it's still not a scum-tell), otherwise he's ok.

I'll chuck in a town read for I have no name as well

I'm dumb.  Shadoweh: Huehuehuehuehuehuehue. 

So these guys:

I'm all for three scum across three bandwagons.  Also, OMGUS.

##Vote: Shadoweh

This is really obtuse coming from you.  What are you thinking?

So much dormio hate going on here...
##Vote Shadoweh
DONT WORRY DORMIO IM WITH YOU

It's as if you are trying to make people believe you are adding your voice and opinion to a developing argument while making room for yourself to call your vote simply RVS by tying it in with Dormio's RVS joke-wagon.  You didn't change your vote or say anything of note later, so I'm taking this to mean you value your vote to some extent, so, why Shadoweh?

This thing between dormio and shadoweh looks dumb the more i read it
##unvote
##vote: shadoweh

Why Shadoweh?

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

cuts- Your Sekrets are my magical pixie sticks.

I'm thinking about claiming D1!  It might be exciting
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 06:49:32 AM
It's only cool if you die for reals this time

Will reread and make better post when able to keep eyes open and possklre see keybird i a, type with
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 06:56:17 AM
It's only cool if you die for reals this time

Will reread and make better post when able to keep eyes open and possklre see keybird i a, type with

Yeah, take a nap or something.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 08:35:02 AM
Of course, Dormio, you should have said you weren't serious a while back >_>.   
>Implying that I am ever serious about my ED1 votes.

Anyway, Dan.
What's up with the ShadyK hate? What makes him worse than Rawr and Affinity? (And me.)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
To clarify, both your points on Rawr and ShadyK seem to boil down to "Why Shadoweh?".
What puts ShadyK as scummier than Rawr?
And what does being obtuse make Affinity? Is it scummy?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 01:00:25 PM
>Implying that I am ever serious about my ED1 votes.

Anyway, Dan.
What's up with the ShadyK hate? What makes him worse than Rawr and Affinity? (And me.)


Dormio, don't play dumb.  You should know quite well that half this playerlist wouldn't be able to determine whether or not you were serious, especially after post #33.

I feel the way ShadyK phrased his vote post was designed to take as little responsibly as possible for the vote, which is more prototypical of scum.  The three of them need more posts for me to separate the wheat from the chaf.  And I think you are town >:|

To clarify, both your points on Rawr and ShadyK seem to boil down to "Why Shadoweh?".
What puts ShadyK as scummier than Rawr?
And what does being obtuse make Affinity? Is it scummy?

Affinity's post suggests he has inclinations against Shadoweh, yourself, and GreyIce, but it's vague enough that its meaning could be tailored later.  It is scummy.


Dormio, I really resent your last two posts.  In that you are needling me without taking a stance yourself by either validating my concerns or telling me I'm wrong.  In fact, why don't you do that now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 01:12:08 PM
I find your line of thought to be agreeable, but do not think that ShadyK is necessarily worse than the others.
Like you say, more words from them would be nice.

And with that, it's past midnight. Farewell.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Hey Ran, are you serious about your shadoweh vote or not? 

#58 you state this wagon on Shadoweh isn't serious.
#60 you state that you don't like Shadoweh's comment.

Money where your mouth is, right now, Ran Ran.  Is this a serious wagon?  Or is this a joke wagon, and you plan to move your vote somewhere useful?  'cause you've flipflopped so often you should open a beach supply store. 

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 04:54:33 PM
If the 2004 US presidential election taught me anything, it's that flipflopping accusations are often taken out of context. 

Dormio is claiming that he isn't serious about pushing her for the lynch.  In #61 Dormio doesn't like Shadoweh because he thinks that Shadoweh has the "killing intent" against Dormio (that's how I read it anyway).  Meanwhile he's still thinking about who could be scum.  I'm going to appeal to Hw here and argue that this phenomenom is what happened to me in Schezo's game when I parked my vote on Serela.

Seriously grey, try to dissociate the wagon from Shadoweh's wagon from Dormio, and try to go DEEPER.  Think of the votepark on Shadoweh in the way that your vote has been left on Px.  Also what do you think of Affinity, Rawr, and ShadyK?

Also stick with addessing him as Dormio.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 28, 2012, 04:56:27 PM
Giving a qick opinion from current affairs since I slept in this morning, shitty phone net is shitty .<.

I'm keeping my vote on ICE for just how, well gunho/rabid I'm feeling about ICE's defense of shafoweh, with no explanation other than a secret.

Honestly it's rusling my jimmies and secrets between townies brought up with detail is high herasy :fordaemparah:

Shadoweh and dormio feels more like a cat fight to be honest, though it is somewhat noticable how fiesty dormio is.  Anyone else is feeling bleh at best and specific post referencing is nigh impossible from my crackberry.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 05:20:04 PM
If the 2004 US presidential election taught me anything, it's that flipflopping accusations are often taken out of context. 

Dormio is claiming that he isn't serious about pushing her for the lynch.  In #61 Dormio doesn't like Shadoweh because he thinks that Shadoweh has the "killing intent" against Dormio (that's how I read it anyway).  Meanwhile he's still thinking about who could be scum.  I'm going to appeal to Hw here and argue that this phenomenom is what happened to me in Schezo's game when I parked my vote on Serela.

Seriously grey, try to dissociate the wagon from Shadoweh's wagon from Dormio, and try to go DEEPER.  Think of the votepark on Shadoweh in the way that your vote has been left on Px.  Also what do you think of Affinity, Rawr, and ShadyK?

Also stick with addessing him as Dormio.
Ah, so the fact that Trixie hasn't posted anything makes Trixie... more likely to be town?


Hmmmmm...

Your logic, it does not resemble our earth logic
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 05:28:29 PM
>_> That was a normal sentence when I typed it last night.

I wanted to get a good read on the game when I woke up but instead I feel like I'm looking at a void in which only Dormio, ICE and Dan are floating exchanging laser fire. Dan, if you're convinced this is the kind of thing Dormio does as town, there's no point in pursuing his passive--aggressive questioning of you unless you want to start a fight with your town reads.

Grey: is bad at being subtle.
Dormio: lashing out at someone for holding back information is what I'd call a typical reaction of him.  Since he's chatting with people I perceive as town it's understandable that he hasn't found a better purchase for his vote either. Also about Dormio playing dumb.. :V Dormio what exactly don't you like about me besides that I responded to your pointed anger with returned hostility? Look I'm giving you more material to make an answer by. <^_^>
Dan: is town by the way. If anyone tries to shoot him again I will nail you to the god damn wall. >:<
I have no name: sounds town for #51. It's an honest kind of statement that comes from a town state of mind.
ShadyK: hasn't made that leap from joke stage to Serious Time. If it's a case of first-time jitters, I'll just advise you to say what's on your mind when you read the arguments people are presenting.
Rawr: I'm pretty sure I asked you a question. =.= If this thing between Shadoweh and Dormio is stupid why are you encouraging it by voting one of us?
Anthy: "Honestly it's rusling my jimmies and secrets between townies brought up with detail is high herasy :fordaemparah:" Something in this sentence does not parse with where you are keeping your vote. Explain why you are voting someone you describe as town.

Huh what's posts don't give me vibes either way yet. Affinity's post is weird but I'm assuming RVS related. Let's vig him without a claim Most people are practicing lurker foo.


I think I'm annoyed at the focus and the absence of so many people from the conversation. I don't know how I feel about the rest but I do know they should get their asses in here or I'm going to start proposing lynches on everyone who hasn't posted on this page.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.
Why Shadoweh?
kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.  Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...
FakeEdit:PEOPLE SOMETIMES I GET BUSY I WAS GONNA POST EVENTUALLY OMG
##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 05:36:57 PM
God I screwed up my last post fml
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 05:39:58 PM
Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.  Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...
FakeEdit:PEOPLE SOMETIMES I GET BUSY I WAS GONNA POST EVENTUALLY OMG
##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.

What is this I don't even...

...

...

MY GOD WHAT IS THIS
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 05:40:46 PM
I swear unto god, if Trixie's response to a vote wasn't to OMGUS and then lurk like a mofo I'd be.... GAH
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 05:57:32 PM
Have a nice drink. It'll make all the words come up better. I will attempt a fair and unbiased response to that post to allow conversation to continue.

Ok sorry I'm late I had a math test and stuff and didnt have time to make a post yesterday.kk about that...
##Unvote
I actually dont have a reason at all in truth I should've unvoted earlier but what's done is done.
Let's start here. Why do you feel that you should have unvoted earlier? Do you have any reasons for unvoting me now? How do you feel about Shadoweh?
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Now about this current situation, Ice is attacking Dormio and PX specifically super strong.  Now part of me wants to believe he's town but on the other hand I feel as if he's scum.  However I feel lynching him at this point might not be a good move.  As for the others I aint entirely sure on their standing so much but...
What parts make you want to believe ICE is town? What parts make you want to believe ICE is scum? You should be able to look through the argument and find quotes that explain this if you have those feelings, or relate them to how you feel about Dormio and PX themselves.
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##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.
Has no name changed his vote alot? I'm not sure how flip floppy applies. The tone of this makes me believe you think Dormio is town, is this correct? If so I'd like a better explanation of why.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
So I wake up, go to class, come back and find I've been guessed as town twice and voted once.

##Vote:Ihavenoname
You seem rather flip floppy with your votes and you haven't given much of an argument as to why dormio is scum.  That and the fact that in #48 you say a quicklynch feels off makes me think you're trying to act as townie.  Gimme one good reason why I should vote dormio at all cuz you seem rather passive.
I've had votes on 2 people so far.  So far I have hunches that the scum are under 4 people, some moreso than others.  I'm placing my vote on who I think is mostly scummy at the time.'

"trying to act as townie" I've never played Mafia before, does that mean I'm doing it right/wrong?

Because I KNOW people are going to ask on my list it's Dormio, ShadyK, ICE and PX, with PX being the least suspicious at the moment.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
huehuehue

@people who asked me the same thing, Why i choose shadoweh over dormio? probably because of the omgus and the fact that i find it weird how on ICE first post he declares shadoweh town for no apparent reason.

@ICE why you no answer questions, not answering questions means youre trying to avoid them, which means youre scum. Put your vote where your mouth is are you going to vote dormio? else what does trixies one post have that makes you want to keep your vote on him?

@ihavenoname, px was scum the last 3 games, it wouldnt be surprising if px ended up scum 4th time in a row :V

@shadoweh I had doubts about both you and dormio because I cant tell if dormio is trying to be serious and voting, and if your omgus on him was serious or not.

##unvote
##Vote:Affinity

Saying hes ok with all three wagons and then voting shadoweh on the omgus.

@affinity why are you ok with ICE shadoweh dormio wagons?

unvoting shadoweh because ive been wrong about shadoweh before and the fact that her read that dan is town i can agree with but dormio im not so sure about so hes pretty null for me right now.

cut cut cut cut cut cut cut

@ICE In the past couple of games, px has posted very rarely :V. I dont think voting someone based off of one post and lurking is a valid enough reason to vote him or just claim that hes scum no doubt.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
Sooo, add Dr. Rawr to the list of people who think Lurking is a Town tell.


The Trixie Diaries:
Posted in a Monopoly game at 12:12
Posted again at 12:48
And again at 12:53
/inned to another game at 12:55 (so apparently she feels she has enough time to play this and another game)
Resolved Diplomacy orders at 1:17

Posted in Mafia at... ???
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 06:32:30 PM
So lurking means auto scum?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
Also hi5 at your active lurking, avoiding questions and making useless posts. cool keep it up  ::)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
 Deliberately lurking (as opposed to simply being absent from the site) is quite, quite scummy, yes oh yes it is. 

You seem to have a very strong town read on Trixie though.  Why don't you explain that one? 

P.S.  What questions haven't I answered, hmmmm? 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 06:37:54 PM
kk let's do this
Let's start here. Why do you feel that you should have unvoted earlier? Do you have any reasons for unvoting me now? How do you feel about Shadoweh?What parts make you want to believe ICE is town? What parts make you want to believe ICE is scum?
Well I shoulda unvoted earlier cuz tbh I had no reason to vote you in the first place.  Looking at this now I don't really see anything scummy in ya yet.  ICE might be town cuz his reasons do make some sense to me. Just his posts in general seem fairly townie. But at the same time he's kind of a drama queen when it comes to any mention of him or you being scum.  Like in #43 soon as a couple votes racked up on ya he was all like 'no get off shadoweh'.  Then I mention the possibility of him being scum and he flips out in #76 with a 'OH GOD WHAT'  It's posts like those that make me feel like he's scum.


Has no name changed his vote alot? I'm not sure how flip floppy applies. The tone of this makes me believe you think Dormio is town, is this correct? If so I'd like a better explanation of why.
Ok flip floppy aint the best word but from what I see he's using another person's reason as a way to change his vote without any input of his own.  Dormio seems town to me at this point yes.  Now I've got a question for you shadoweh.  ICE keeps claiming your town but what I'd like to know is if you consider him town as well.  I mean he's always defending you so why not do the same provided that you think he's town.
More Replies yippee:
"trying to act as townie" I've never played Mafia before, does that mean I'm doing it right/wrong?
Because I KNOW people are going to ask on my list it's Dormio, ShadyK, ICE and PX, with PX being the least suspicious at the moment.
Does that list mean I'm one of the most suspicous?  If so why do you think this?  Going off a hunch is cool and all but you need some reasoning to back it up.
So lurking means auto scum?
It's a scum habit yeah but doesnt imply that they are 100% scum everytime.
FakeEdit: These posts just keep on comin dont they
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 06:44:56 PM
Does that list mean I'm one of the most suspicous?  If so why do you think this?  Going off a hunch is cool and all but you need some reasoning to back it up. It's a scum habit yeah but doesnt imply that they are 100% scum everytime.
Yes.  Your #35 was why I thought so, but before I posted I read through the rest of the thread up to the most recent post.  Someone had already made the point I was going to make, so I said I agreed.

But it's a slow D1, there's not much info so there's not much to go off of but hunches.

If somehting else happens in the next couple minutes I'll respond but if not I have class for 3 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 06:45:59 PM
I never said trixie was town nor have i implied it, try reading my posts. Right now trixie is null do to the fact that he only posted once

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Put your vote where your mouth is are you going to vote dormio? else what does trixies one post have that makes you want to keep your vote on him?

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GreyICE is pretty town imo, but I'm not feeling his Shadoweh obvtowniest ever read yet. I don't think she's scummy though. Would also like him to explain why PX is worth voting more than Dormio right now.

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I will note that I dislike how you still have yet to explain why you felt it prudent to point out Trixie(PX)'s OMGUS, yet you simply ignored Shadoweh who did the same thing.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
Ohh, you want to know why I won't take the pressure off a lurker whose response to my post was to run away and hide, to put it on someone who is actively posting and helping me get a better read on them?

Are you by chance very, very new to this game? 

Also, Shadoweh is town, so why do I care what she does?  As well as to ask if I find the moderator scummy :P
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Please answer my question, i dont need it in a form of a question kthnx

So youre saying you would be ok if shadoweh were to go on a spree getting town lynched just because your secret thing with shadoweh makes her town?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 28, 2012, 07:03:55 PM
Also yea this is my 3rd game
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 07:04:56 PM
Yes.  Your #35 was why I thought so, but before I posted I read through the rest of the thread up to the most recent post.  Someone had already made the point I was going to make, so I said I agreed.

But it's a slow D1, there's not much info so there's not much to go off of but hunches.

If somehting else happens in the next couple minutes I'll respond but if not I have class for 3 hours.
That post eh.  Well just cuz I sided with dormio in the beginning doesnt mean I wont vote him later.    So what you're telling me is your reason for voting for dormio hasn't changed since #57 cuz I'm sure he's made enough posts since then to prove your point further if you are indeed correct.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 28, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Serela
Dormio (3) -  huh what, Shadoweh,  i have no name,
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (1) - ICE
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - Dan
I have no name (1) - ShadyK
Shadoweh (2) - Dormio,  Affinity
Affinity (1) - dr rawr
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, PX



Not voting: No one

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~51 hours.

Screw unvotesssssssssss
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 07:11:44 PM
Please answer my question, i dont need it in a form of a question kthnx

So youre saying you would be ok if shadoweh were to go on a spree getting town lynched just because your secret thing with shadoweh makes her town?
I'm not okay with lynching town, but I'd argue with shadoweh about her reads, not lynch her.  Because that's what you do when town is wrong :P

I'm not sure you're wrong town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 07:36:49 PM
Because I KNOW people are going to ask on my list it's Dormio, ShadyK, ICE and PX, with PX being the least suspicious at the moment.
My favorite question of the day is going to get asked alot! Why? Do you feel that Dormio and ICE or PX and ICE could be scum together? Why do you suspect Shadyk and did you before he voted you?

@people who asked me the same thing, Why i choose shadoweh over dormio? probably because of the omgus and the fact that i find it weird how on ICE first post he declares shadoweh town for no apparent reason.
ICE randomly declared me town for no reason. This makes me scum because ??? .   Although it's known for scum to go out of their way to defend townies for cred, this would be a scumtell for him and a towntell for me. Unless you are implying we are scumbuddies trying to link ourselves to each other as hard as possible, because we feel pity for town and want you to have an easy time.

I was going to comment you should ask the questions you want answered again but you actually did that so etc.
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@shadoweh I had doubts about both you and dormio because I cant tell if dormio is trying to be serious and voting, and if your omgus on him was serious or not.
Those sounds like null-tells. We could both not be serious and just be town looking for a reason to vote. Speaking of which, I hope you realize you're voting Affinity over something you've just stated you were voting me for.

ICE might be town cuz his reasons do make some sense to me. Just his posts in general seem fairly townie. But at the same time he's kind of a drama queen when it comes to any mention of him or you being scum.  Like in #43 soon as a couple votes racked up on ya he was all like 'no get off shadoweh'.  Then I mention the possibility of him being scum and he flips out in #76 with a 'OH GOD WHAT'  It's posts like those that make me feel like he's scum.
I'm sorry, I'm distracted by the picture of Lain in a tinkerbell dress throwing a temper tantrum at her managers. Okay back. So you think that he sounds reasonable but he's being over-defensive towards someone town and himself? That's a reasonable conclusion. I don't think he's worried about being fingered though. Since you asked, I think he's being proactive, and driving townie forces not only seem obviously town, but they get killed really fast, so the only reason I would have to suspect ICE is if he were alive in three days. I'm not going out of my way to defend him because he is a big boy and my reading of townie vibes says he doesn't need it.

Voting Dormio is fun but I need something new to go on. Let's go with...

##Unvote
##Vote: PX
OBVBUDDY WAGON GO
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 07:48:47 PM
If the 2004 US presidential election taught me anything, it's that flipflopping accusations are often taken out of context. 

Dormio is claiming that he isn't serious about pushing her for the lynch.  In #61 Dormio doesn't like Shadoweh because he thinks that Shadoweh has the "killing intent" against Dormio (that's how I read it anyway).  Meanwhile he's still thinking about who could be scum.  I'm going to appeal to Hw here and argue that this phenomenom is what happened to me in Schezo's game when I parked my vote on Serela.

Seriously grey, try to dissociate the wagon from Shadoweh's wagon from Dormio, and try to go DEEPER.  Think of the votepark on Shadoweh in the way that your vote has been left on Px.  Also what do you think of Affinity, Rawr, and ShadyK?

Also stick with addessing him as Dormio.

I now feel very comfortable answering 2/3

ShadyK - newbie town.  That one post was made of pure 100% DERP but the explanation made perfect sense, from the perspective of 'oh my god this is so new to me'
Rawr - obvscum.  Really, really obvscum
Affinity - Shitty mechanic, even if doing 21 points of damage on turn 3 was an awesome sight to behold... wait, the poster.  Oh.  Not posting elsewhere on site while not posting here makes the lurking a tad more null, and if your plan is to scumlurk without drawing attention to yourself going 'Also OMGUS' is a bad idea.  But overall, one post is... one post.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I get the feeling Rawr is town. 

ShadyK, could you tell me exactly what you were thinking when you voted Shadoweh in #35. 

Things in your posts so far:
a) You sided with Dormio  <------- There was a dispute in which a side could be taken
b) You had no reason to vote Shadoweh in the first place <----------- There really wasn't

Ice, first let's not antagonize the playerlist unnecessarily.

Rawr's concern was the same as Hw's concern, and Hw is a fairly experienced mafia player.

I myself am more interested in your reads of the other people not named Px and Dormio.

And I'm going to echo Rawr that Px lurking is a null-tell (EVEN if he's been posting elsewhere, I believe).  Neither of us called that a town-tell and honestly you should know better than to stuff words in our mouths.

Shadoweh: Do you and GreyIce have at least a non-alignment confirmed QT?  I wasn't kidding when I mentioned my magical pixie sticks. They should be > "sekrets"
This might get awkward later...

So I'd love to see posts from Hw, Affinity, Serela, Px, Dormio, and maybe Anthy before I claim.  It's gonna be a blast!  literally

-cut!

Ok, that makes me feel less paranoid.  Although I'm feeling Rawr town, and ShadyK needs more input, but I reconize the derp.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 08:06:52 PM
SEKRETS don't get questioned on day 1 silly ^_^

Also Rawr isn't town, but that's okay.  We'll hash that one out later. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 08:24:14 PM
O_o That's a really specific question Dan. I don't see a pro-town reason to answer it, pixie sticks or not. If you're asking because you're paranoid about ICE, I'll tell you that I simply don't think he's scum and trying to advance the game state while voting in an antagonizing way doesn't make sense for the scum agenda.

If you're asking because you're a creepy mime and you want to snuggle in please get away from me.

Besides The Trixie Diaries made me breathe hot chocolate down the wrong tube.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 28, 2012, 08:25:09 PM
Quick before work after school post.

@shadoweh:  my post was implying such actions are against/bad for town, basically saying scum.

Also ICE secrets day one or not are still secrets and still creates doubts and paranoia <.<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 08:30:04 PM
The only one who should be paranoid about townie secrets are the scum team. You're still implying that openly saying you have something to hide is scummy, when it has the caveat that said person has to deliver later. The scum don't want to make themselves accountable this early.

Also Kitten4u isn't a player so no one has fakeclaims that awesome.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 28, 2012, 08:34:01 PM
Ah yes derpy posts my forte.  Since im doing this from my phone it's gonna be rather brief.  Dan i hate to say it but i was just thinking 'lol rnadom vote time guess ill vote with dormio' orz I'll assume you want more input on ICE dormio situation and if not then correct me.  Well at this point my suspicions on ice being scum have lowered for one but right now I want to wait for dormio and the others input before making any decisions (that and I hate typing on this phone)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 08:53:35 PM
Quick before work after school post.

@shadoweh:  my post was implying such actions are against/bad for town, basically saying scum.

Also ICE secrets day one or not are still secrets and still creates doubts and paranoia <.<
You want to just outright claim scum, rather than softclaiming it?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 28, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
That's fine Shady, you're ok.

##Unvote
##Vote: Px

I don't even know what to say.  Anthy get thyself to a computer.

Thx Shadoweh, my paranoia is going down.  was checking for redundant info.  that's not something I'll reveal today.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 09:49:34 PM
Guten morgen.

#58 you state this wagon on Shadoweh isn't serious.
#60 you state that you don't like Shadoweh's comment.
Yeah, I didn't like the comment. What of it?

Also about Dormio playing dumb.. :V
What is this supposed to mean? >:<

Dormio what exactly don't you like about me besides that I responded to your pointed anger with returned hostility? Look I'm giving you more material to make an answer by. <^_^>
At that point, not much else.

I still dislike GreyICE, but I'm going to chalk that up as playstyle differences for the time being.

PX not posting is a thing that I really don't like.

Dislike people with one (or less, Serela) posts to their name.

Dislike I have no name's lack of opinions on anything.

Whatever, I need to actually be productive today. The weather sucks.
##Unvote
##Vote I have no name.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 28, 2012, 09:53:28 PM
Look, danging a 'secret' and treating it like scum bait is like expecting to find a thief by leaving a $20 and seeing who picks it up first.  It's a crappy way to grab someone who is scum cause you're tempting curiosity.  It's still anti-town at least as you're turning yourself into a target by claiming you know someone else is town nearly out of the gate. The fact is that wouldn't one want to not just whip out a spade from the sleeve and leave it there for all to see with no use.  So either it's scum or anti-town at best.  And if I missed your reveal date, blame calculus homework and my procrastination, and speaking of that, I should leave the bathroom now <.<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 28, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Dangling not danging x-x
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
My favorite question of the day is going to get asked alot! Why? Do you feel that Dormio and ICE or PX and ICE could be scum together? Why do you suspect Shadyk and did you before he voted you?
It wasn't that he voted me specifically but the way he 'defended' Dormio.  I get it's still probably a jokevote, but it still struck me as off.
Dislike I have no name's lack of opinions on anything.
I've presented a few opinions.  I'd give more if I wasn't neutral on most people at the moment.
Whatever, I need to actually be productive today. The weather sucks.
##Unvote
##Vote I have no name.
Don't see how that's productive other than forcing me to defend myself (I'm obviously not scum.  Obviously.), but if you think so then whatever.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Productive as in I need to get real life stuff sorted out. :)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 28, 2012, 10:15:55 PM
From what I can see, your current opinions can be summed up as:
All your opinions seem to be gleaned from those around you etc.
Anyway, I was supposed to do stuff!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 10:30:18 PM
Look, danging a 'secret' and treating it like scum bait is like expecting to find a thief by leaving a $20 and seeing who picks it up first.  It's a crappy way to grab someone who is scum cause you're tempting curiosity.  It's still anti-town at least as you're turning yourself into a target by claiming you know someone else is town nearly out of the gate. The fact is that wouldn't one want to not just whip out a spade from the sleeve and leave it there for all to see with no use.  So either it's scum or anti-town at best.  And if I missed your reveal date, blame calculus homework and my procrastination, and speaking of that, I should leave the bathroom now <.<
Hey Anthy, have anything better to do than discuss mafia theory (poorly) and leave your vote on town?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on February 28, 2012, 10:52:45 PM
Quick post before Trixie rushes off to get breakfast brunch food at 3PM.
Trixie's reads on people through a quick skim.
1. huh what - No idea
2. Dormio - Town
3. ActionDan - Town
5. Dr Rawr - Town
6. Serela - Does he have posts?
7. ShadyK - Need to read
8. I have no name - Need to read
9. Shadoweh - Die scum! Town
10. Affinity - Need to read
11. Anthy - Need to read
12. ICE - Trixie does not like you at all. Town
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 10:57:46 PM
  • PX and Dormio probably aren't scum again. The guy accusing them must be suspicious because of it.
  • Random statistics and sheeping to HW.
  • Dormio, ShadyK, GreyICE, and PX are suspicious for reasons that I have yet to disclose.
I thought ICE was suspicious for other reasons, mainly that he seems to be rather secretive.  I do think it's unlikely that the same 2 people are scum but I haven't ruled it out.
I like numbers, what more can I say?
Because I don't have solid reasons yet-just hunches.  I feel like voting for someone I think might be scum will be more productive than either withholding my vote or voting for another random person.

That said,
##Unvote
ICE, you've seemed rather antagonistic this entire game thus far.  As Dormio has also said, not sure if its playstyle difference (although I don't like his either), but I don't like that/trust you at the moment.

Withholding a further vote until my next post, which should be after I get back from visiting my friend in the hospital.  I want more information tbh.

You may wish to review your post.
Curse my inexperience at this game.
Serela posted once I think, back in jokevoting.  I think Affinity has also voted only the once.[/list]
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 28, 2012, 11:40:46 PM
ICE it's called dealing with bs scholarship essays and school .<.

Joking aside what benefits is there in just shoving that 'secret' right out into the open then?  I know already I've made a stupid mistake on the part of potential scum baiting, but that still bugs the shit outta me cause you're making yourself a side of a barn on night one in my opinion. Will get out better opinions on everyone else when I can actually make a decent judgement with a full stomach.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 11:45:17 PM
Look, danging a 'secret' and treating it like scum bait is like expecting to find a thief by leaving a $20 and seeing who picks it up first.  It's a crappy way to grab someone who is scum cause you're tempting curiosity.
It got us past the non-serious phase and onto having real discussions, didn't it? More importantly, no one is voting anyone for those reasons. If ICE were tunneling on someone because they reacted wrong to 'secrets' you would have a point. This is more like da police organizing a sting operation and having a reporter trying to catch the scoop.
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It's still anti-town at least as you're turning yourself into a target by claiming you know someone else is town nearly out of the gate.
Explain this to me. How is it scummy to turn yourself into a target? Scum don't want attention. Scum don't want people wondering why they're alive after three nightkills. It's reaction grabbing. And sometimes you gotta be a little anti-town to corner the scumbags, fight fire with fire, they ain't playing fair so don't be surprised when we break out the tear gas.  8)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 28, 2012, 11:46:19 PM
##Unvote
I'm satisfied with Dormio at the moment. He's done a fine job of explaining where he's coming from since my initial vote and now he looks more inquisitive than panicky and passive-aggressively scummy.

Nameless bleeds obvious newbtown every time he posts. As newbscum, he'd either be putting more effort into looking good or acting more gung-ho for the sake of getting a mislynch. I don't see him doing either.

##Vote Anthy
All of his stances on other players in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797159.html#msg797159) are simultaneously weak and very safe to take. Particularly, voting GreyICE over an easily observable fact instead of scum intent doesn't sit right with me - secrecy on it's own isn't scummy, so if you're going to attack somebody for it, you had better explain why the circumstances make it look scum-motivated.

I'd like to see ShadyK take a solid, non-waffly stance on a player who isn't a fellow newbie. The Nameless wagon is unimpressive and trying to avoid picking unwinnable fights with stronger players is a reasonable newbscum action.

Unhappy with PX, GJ responding to a lurker prod by keeping down your OMGUS on the guy you said you think is town. Less sold on him actually being scum instead of a herp than I am on Anthy, though. Town will lurk on purpose if they're lazy jerks, and that's a pretty accurate description of PX in Mafia.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 28, 2012, 11:49:59 PM
Haha I didn't realize Anthy was still voting ICE until huh what pointed it out.

Anthy, your post is about being mad at ICE for making himself a nightkill target. IE being mad at him for being TOWN. That's three times now I've said this. Stop voting someone you think is town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 28, 2012, 11:54:24 PM
Quick post before Trixie rushes off to get breakfast brunch food at 3PM.
Trixie's reads on people through a quick skim.
1. huh what - No idea
2. Dormio - Town
3. ActionDan - Town
5. Dr Rawr - Town
6. Serela - Does he have posts?
7. ShadyK - Need to read
8. I have no name - Need to read
9. Shadoweh - Die scum! Town
10. Affinity - Need to read
11. Anthy - Need to read
12. ICE - Trixie does not like you at all. Town
My desire for your blood has been quenched by this very townie...

OH WAIT BURN TRIXIE BURN BURN BURN
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 12:00:57 AM
ICE, while you're around, can you explain what you have on Rawr that makes him obvscum? I'm not following it beyond "he has misconceptions about the game".
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on February 29, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
Okay I'm totes home again! Posting time.

It is sort of hard to tell whether ED1 Dormio was being semi-serious or all joke because of his #27. I mean, it's enough for an ED1 case.

Rant time.
ICE violates the common sense of not revealing role-related info unless you need to, or maybe he's just bluffing or doing something weird, I wouldn't know. Either way his "Shadoweh is town, gtfo with those Shadoweh votes" is dumb. If it's role-related info, it doesn't need to be said unless she's actually in danger of being lynched... or he's doing some weird gambit (Don't try to tell me you seriously just got a super town read on her from confirmation posts.) and that's even worse. Ignore me also violating this last game during D2 (;_;), I was in a different state (geography wise) and not thinking right, not that I think right normally but.

tl;dr : "I've got some super cool reason to know that Shadoweh is totally town, that only I know about! What should I do?" The answer is not "Tell everyone that I know Shadoweh is town for secret reasons as soon as the confirmation phase ends." This is not productive at all. I cannot think of a single reason why it would be. It's possibly even anti-productive. Okay I could keep going but I'm going to stop ranting now, the longer I go the more likely it is I'll start saying things that make less and less sense.

Ihavenoname, Dr.Rawr, ShadyK, and Anthy are all I -think- pretty new to mafia and as such probably unreadable to me for awhile (I hear Noname is obvtown but I don't have the attention span to evaluate this anymore, maybe after a good night's rest). That's... a significant chunk of the player list, which makes me sadface. Hopefully their derp will be readable by late D2 like Rawr was last game!

Blurgh I've been so distracted by this stuff that I haven't paid enough attention to actually trying to read the other half of the playerlist. On PX, he lurks all the time forever so oh well. Admittedly though, I can only recall games where he was scum. ICE, Dormio, Dan, Shadoweh, are all people who've posted enough that I should be able to make some sort of opinion! Hrm. That leaves Affinity and HW as people who need to post because they haven't in a long time. Right, so, rereading those other four.

Dorm seems fine enough at the moment. So does Shadoweh! I think ICE is actually my first real town read though, even with his incredibly unfamiliar playstyle, and then iunno how I feel about Dan. Need to come back to that later when I can think again.

Oh HW cut me. I'll read it indepth when my mafia drive is less shot out. That just leaves Affinity to jump in and exist! And PX too, even if I'm not sure I can honestly expect he will. 

oh wait I have a vote and it's supposed to go somewhere uhhh

##unvote
##Vote PX

He really doesn't have more then a list to his name, after all. He can totes still look way better as long as he gives real contributions soon though. I'm fine with my vote being on him right now as my brain manages to work up towards having actual opinions on people.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 12:06:01 AM
ICE it's called dealing with bs scholarship essays and school .<.

Joking aside what benefits is there in just shoving that 'secret' right out into the open then?  I know already I've made a stupid mistake on the part of potential scum baiting, but that still bugs the shit outta me cause you're making yourself a side of a barn on night one in my opinion. Will get out better opinions on everyone else when I can actually make a decent judgement with a full stomach.

SO YOU'RE ADMITTING THAT YOUR VOTE ON ME IS BLATANT ROLE FISHING?

YOU CAN BURN WITH TRIXIE
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
ICE, while you're around, can you explain what you have on Rawr that makes him obvscum? I'm not following it beyond "he has misconceptions about the game".
A beaaauuutifulll "Why Her" on Trixie where he complains that I'm voting Trixie for things that other townies are doing. 

An accusation of 'Active Lurking' that makes minimal sense to me.

Power Role Fishing in post #89 (though not... quite as blatant as Anthy)

That being said, Anthy fishing for PRs as hard as humanly possible while doing nothing else has sooooo promoted him to right behind the great and scummerful trixie
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 12:37:34 AM
Oh hey thanks for reminding me, I would like a reanswer to my question on 88 thats not in a form of a question.

Also youve pretty much been adding words yourself to peoples post, could you please be so kind as to stop. I was not role fishing in my 89. Yes you have been making a bunch of uneeded posts or useless posts, so i guess active lurking is a thing for you.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 12:40:43 AM
Oh hey thanks for reminding me, I would like a reanswer to my question on 88 thats not in a form of a question.

Also youve pretty much been adding words yourself to peoples post, could you please be so kind as to stop. I was not role fishing in my 89. Yes you have been making a bunch of uneeded posts or useless posts, so i guess active lurking is a thing for you.
I guess it is just a thing for me!  By the way, thanks for admitting you know I'm town ^_^ 

Very good of you, Rawr. 

Dun worry, we have lots of rope!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 12:45:47 AM
So youre saying you would be ok if shadoweh were to go on a spree getting town lynched just because your secret thing with shadoweh makes her town?
This can be interpreted as you asking how strong his 'thing' is on me, IE looking to find out his role. I don't believe it's an unfair accusation. I'm not sure what you intended with this question if that wasn't the case.

Serela made a post that basically says 'there sure are alot of people' and jumps on the nearest bandwagon. >_>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 12:48:25 AM
ok, now I'm back.  Read through everything, and I did say I'd vote when I got back so I'm going to do that now.
##Vote: ICE
I really hope my guess is correct and that it's not just a playstyle difference/me being a noob.

Ihavenoname, Dr.Rawr, ShadyK, and Anthy are all I -think- pretty new to mafia and as such probably unreadable to me for awhile (I hear Noname is obvtown but I don't have the attention span to evaluate this anymore, maybe after a good night's rest). That's... a significant chunk of the player list, which makes me sadface.
That's fair. (and this is my first game so you're correct...but everyone starts somewhere)
Hopefully their derp will be readable by late D2 like Rawr was last game!
Hey... :ohdear:

(1 new post)
Rawr still seems neutral leaning towards scum, Dormio is leaning towards town.
Shadoweh also seems town, as does Serela.  Unsure about basically everyone else I haven't mentioned yet.

(1 new post...again)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 29, 2012, 01:10:31 AM
You know what, I'm leaving my vote on ICE for now, as honestly it's not a serious threat at all to 'the glorious ICE' as her personality shows.  Throughout this game so far it's been a string of poking and claiming wildly without much explanation.

1.Claiming Shadoweh was town with no explanation other than 'sekrets'
2.Dormio and Trixie for unexplained gut and a ED1 OMGUS
3.simple lurking is scummy being taken to totalitarian serious.

Along with the fact you think my vote was to get your role out of you then you're jumping the gun before the bullet is even the chamber, it's pretty damn obvious it's either a conjoined role of some sort or a contrived bastard role for this game, which either one isn't something just to flaunt about still like a WMD, but then apparently I'm not a source of the smartest choices so far either, now lets actually get a response that doesn't sum up to 'are u getting mad?' . < .

P.S>: Shadoweh, yes I am somewhat annoyed that ICE is making a target out of herself cause if she is down, and does have ~*~special powers~*~ they shouldn't be flailed about to be shot so soon unless it's something absurd like a gun owner.  It's attention grabbing and it doesn't help that ICE in general annoys me and hasn't contributed other than jabbing with small pins to get more reactions.

In other news of looking over people, Dormio doesn't bug me at all other than the beginning aggressive advance, but then that soon fizzled out.

Shadoweh is at least being active and adding sense, and honestly is the only other thing protecting ICE (As ICE's personality and choice provocation is the first), defending a secret cause it isn't the 'pro-town' choice to question it is, sketchy in my opinion.  It isn't only a question of town or scum, people in general will want to damn know what the secret when someone taunts them with it.  At the moment I really don't see much defense from others of such action other than you.  I'm not calling scum or any of that crap now, but honestly I swear there's something between you and ICE in this scenario, and it's bugging the shit outta me.

Anyone else honestly my brain is not giving a care in the world right now, I need to step back before I decide to stab my face open, and maybe actually get some damn sleep.

tl;dr: I don't like ICE and her sekrets of secrets and poking people with one sentence explanations that aren't really explanations and shadoweh defending ICE is bugging me, I don't care if it's the 'town' thing to do, covering for someone like that on such a thing just bugs the crap out of me.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 01:12:06 AM
This can be interpreted as you asking how strong his 'thing' is on me, IE looking to find out his role. I don't believe it's an unfair accusation. I'm not sure what you intended with this question if that wasn't the case.

Serela made a post that basically says 'there sure are alot of people' and jumps on the nearest bandwagon. >_>
But Serela is voting for Trixie, and Trixie's last post was so very awful.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 01:13:43 AM
Hey Anthy, as far as I can tell you've commented on me, and tangentally Shadoweh, in this entire game.

Opinions on ActionDan, Trixie, and I have no name!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 29, 2012, 01:26:23 AM
Give me some damn opinions of your own other than TRIXIE MUST BURRRRRN you pyro . < .

ActionDan: Overall pursuing points, during dormio spark he was sticking rather meta.  Though again it fizzled out so not much there is worth it.  I really don't have much for his points of pursual at the moment.

Trixie:Lurkers lurk are lurking bleh,  honestly I'm not exactly one for the 'active lurkers = scum' camp mostly cause you can't just randomly throw something in here while you're always on otherwise you're prone to a mistake or two, not everyone is a well of posts . < .

I have no name: Feels like how I felt first game, a little flippy/floppy and easy to push into unvoting, but has resolved a bit better.  Opinions are a bit iffy, but then playing neutral is an iffy thing to do in mafia.

Honestly none of them are flipping any switches or sparking up anything to me, and honestly I do expect something more out of you ICE.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 29, 2012, 01:35:51 AM
I'd like to see ShadyK take a solid, non-waffly stance on a player who isn't a fellow newbie. The Nameless wagon is unimpressive and trying to avoid picking unwinnable fights with stronger players is a reasonable newbscum action.
Wait why single me out?  I'll admit I've been kinda on and off with my judgment on the stronger players however I'm not trying to impress anyone here dunno what that is all about.  I dunno what kinda stance you want from me but here's what I think as of now.  ICE and Shadoweh definitely seem like town to me.  The people who seem pretty scummy right now are noname, anthy and px.  Anthy did kinda just prove himself to be rolefishing , PX isnt doing too much.  Honestly Im forming these opinions off of what ICE has said and I know it's a bit hypocritical to use another's opinion as a basis seeing as I blamed noname for the same thing on his dormio vote however ICE has noticed things that I never would've noticed at my current skill level.  As for noname...
I really hope my guess is correct and that it's not just a playstyle difference/me being a noob.
That's fair. (and this is my first game so you're correct...but everyone starts somewhere)Hey... :ohdear:
Ok this is why I find you to be scum you have yet to make a post that actually explains why you are voting for someone.  Why are you making a guess?  Out of all of ICE's posts you dont have any evidence to back up your vote?
Ihavenoname, Dr.Rawr, ShadyK, and Anthy are all I -think- pretty new to mafia and as such probably unreadable to me for awhile (I hear Noname is obvtown but I don't have the attention span to evaluate this anymore
OT: To be fair I've played mafia irl a couple times  :derp: (Except online mafia is entirely different so whatever)
Where did you hear that noname was obvtown?
~New posts have been added~
I have no name: Feels like how I felt first game, a little flippy/floppy and easy to push into unvoting, but has resolved a bit better.  Opinions are a bit iffy, but then playing neutral is an iffy thing to do in mafia.
It's fair enough to be a newbie and he doesnt know who to choose and I can understand that.  However he needs to support his votes with some details at least for me to consider him town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 01:47:21 AM
Ok this is why I find you to be scum you have yet to make a post that actually explains why you are voting for someone.  Why are you making a guess?  Out of all of ICE's posts you dont have any evidence to back up your vote?
I don't have any evidence because I don't know what to look for for evidence, it's mostly just the attitude and tone of the posts.  I'm looking but I'm not seeing any on anyone, so I either pull a no-vote or go off my hunch.  I chose the latter.
Where did you hear that noname was obvtown?
Two people said it, Shadoweh was one of them. (citing #51)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 29, 2012, 01:55:32 AM
Alright so that makes sense for the most part.  But tell me about any of the others,besides ICE, do any of them seem to be more mafia or more town than the others?  Has your suspicion list changed anymore from your last post?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 01:59:08 AM
Suspicions haven't changed, reasoning is pretty much the same as for ICE.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 02:03:16 AM
You have no intention of reading anything Serela said besides his vote do you :p Lynching lurkers on Day 1 oh boy!

You know what, I'm leaving my vote on ICE for now, as honestly it's not a serious threat at all to 'the glorious ICE' as her personality shows.  Throughout this game so far it's been a string of poking and claiming wildly without much explanation.
ICE is a boy btw. :D You are trying very hard to get thrown off the island. Your vote at this point is nothing more then a prod on someone active  who is obvtown. You may think it's a good idea to just leave it there because obv it's not bothering anyone, but that says too me you're just looking for reasons not to move it.
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P.S>: Shadoweh, yes I am somewhat annoyed that ICE is making a target out of herself cause if she is down, and does have ~*~special powers~*~ they shouldn't be flailed about to be shot so soon unless it's something absurd like a gun owner.  It's attention grabbing and it doesn't help that ICE in general annoys me and hasn't contributed other than jabbing with small pins to get more reactions.
SCUM CAN'T MAKE TARGETS OUT OF THEMSELVES. STOP VOTING FOR SOMEONE YOU THINK IS TOWN.
'Jabbing with small pins to get reactions' is easily more contribution then 2/3's of the playerlist. Why you dismiss this is beyond me. Actually I know what's bothering me the most. You're trying to sum up everything ICE has done with 'sekret's when a cursory glance of the thread reveals otherwise. If you can make a case on him that doesn't include playing keepaway I might become less suspicious of you.

I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't defend the right for townies to have sekrets. I've done everything from lie about my role to giving my results to someone else to claim. And I'd do it again. @_@

No name: What is the tone of the posts that makes you suspicious? What you are describing is Gut. Gut is not a reasonless force, you just need to track down where it's coming from.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 02:13:35 AM
A scum player drawing attention to themself having special powers would be a stupid play, but therein lies the brilliance- no scum would draw attention to themsleves so they draw attention to themself as a towntell, thus confirm among the other town a scum as town.  Of course then there's the people who expect this and vote there anyway.

Yeah this first half of my post is pretty stupid hypothetical stuff that basically says don't rule out anyone except yourself.

@Shadoweh the suspicious part is really just the condension and air of superiority over the other (newer, presumably more easily influenced) players.  As a new player myself I'm probably taking this more personally than I should and as a result am being influenced.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on February 29, 2012, 02:17:00 AM
A scum player drawing attention to themself having special powers would be a stupid play, but therein lies the brilliance- no scum would draw attention to themsleves so they draw attention to themself as a towntell, thus confirm among the other town a scum as town.  Of course then there's the people who expect this and vote there anyway
oh god my sides

I'm sorry, really, but

I can't, the WIFOM here
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 02:30:15 AM
oh god my sides

I'm sorry, really, but

I can't, the WIFOM here
It's fine.
I didn't know that was a thing until now anyway.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 03:34:34 AM
Give me some damn opinions of your own other than TRIXIE MUST BURRRRRN you pyro . < .

ActionDan: Overall pursuing points, during dormio spark he was sticking rather meta.  Though again it fizzled out so not much there is worth it.  I really don't have much for his points of pursual at the moment.

Trixie:Lurkers lurk are lurking bleh,  honestly I'm not exactly one for the 'active lurkers = scum' camp mostly cause you can't just randomly throw something in here while you're always on otherwise you're prone to a mistake or two, not everyone is a well of posts . < .

I have no name: Feels like how I felt first game, a little flippy/floppy and easy to push into unvoting, but has resolved a bit better.  Opinions are a bit iffy, but then playing neutral is an iffy thing to do in mafia.

Honestly none of them are flipping any switches or sparking up anything to me, and honestly I do expect something more out of you ICE.

Anthy, quick quiz:  How many people have I given opinions on?

One of them is that ActionDan is only slightly less town than Shadoweh.   Your middle-of-the-road opinion of him does you no favors.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 03:39:32 AM
A scum player drawing attention to themself having special powers would be a stupid play, but therein lies the brilliance- no scum would draw attention to themsleves so they draw attention to themself as a towntell, thus confirm among the other town a scum as town.  Of course then there's the people who expect this and vote there anyway.

This is good old fashioned townie paranoia.

Of course on day 1 it's INSANE, but paranoia is like that ^_^

I have no name is town. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 29, 2012, 03:58:17 AM
Townie paranoia eh?  Hmm

##Unvote
I'll need some time to review before I make my next vote
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on February 29, 2012, 04:09:21 AM
RVS thing was me noticing that there were three people on each of the three bandwagons, and thus three scum.  Don't think it went so well though.

I frown upon the PX wagon as a votepark for people unsure of who the scum really are (e.g Serela, Shadoweh, Dan), since for these three it is based on what PX did not do yet as opposed to what he had already done. True to MoTK D1 form, my guess is that PX will post and they will all scramble to some other scumread they did not mention earlier.  Serela stands out for lumping no name, Anthy, ShadyK, and rawr together even though they have all done very different things this D1.  As for Dan, in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg796969.html#msg796969), he suggests that me and rawr are supplementary scumreads, but why did he vote for PX instead?  It's all faintly scummy and questionable, and they will have to be judged by their actions when PX comes out and makes a post.

However, GreyICE deserves more mention than the above three for his reactive scumhunting and his downright refusal to answer the questions presented to him.  The idea here is this: if you think Shadoweh is town, and Shadoweh OMGUSed Dormio, then why isn't it reasonable for PX!town to 'OMGUS' you in RVS?  Even more baffling is that he thinks Dormio and rawr scummy for pushing this very legitimate point; his play can be summed up as lurker hunting (e.g PX is scummy for posting scant content and OMGUSing him) framed by antagonistic prods at people who focused on him (e.g rawr, Anthy), at once masquerading as being 'proactive in getting reads' and denying their attempts to scumhunt.  I'm pretty fine with lynching someone determined to be this opaque and anti-town.

##Vote: GreyICE

I also share ShadyK's misgivings with huhwhat; in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797389.html#msg797389), huhwhat arbitrarily clears No Name as newbtown (saying that he would have done this rather than that etc.) while decrying Anthy as scum for pushing weak and easy cases (which No Name had done too) and chastising ShadyK for going after newbies, which is pretty much what the entire PX wagon is doing right now.  It is all weirdly exclusive, and it smells of selective scumhunting.  Would like him to answer to this as well.

@mod: Can we have more frequent votecounts?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 04:12:55 AM
Am I scum or not, Affinity?

It's a yes or no question.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on February 29, 2012, 04:24:08 AM
Yes, due to what I see as a vote-park on PX and ineffectual (and somewhat unreasonable) prodding of rawr, Dormio, and Anthy, among others, which sets up an easy move to any one of them.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 04:44:34 AM
Yes, due to what I see as a vote-park on PX and ineffectual (and somewhat unreasonable) prodding of rawr, Dormio, and Anthy, among others, which sets up an easy move to any one of them.
:wat:

How is it a vote park when Trixie doesn't even show up to the thread to respond to anything at all said? 

Oh well, being the counterwagon to a Trixey Rabbit is all good in my book.

What's your reads on, say, Trixie, IHNN or Rawr?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 29, 2012, 07:41:40 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - ICE, Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  Dormio
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (1) - dr rawr
Anthy (1) - huh what
ICE (4) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity



Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~39 hours.


Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 29, 2012, 08:14:58 AM
ICE Lets seeee. (also fuck me and my tendency to wake up before 3 bloody am in the morning)

Dormio which started on unexplained gut and went to questioning if serious or not abotu a few posts.

Trixie cause an early and probably joke OMGUS along with lurking.

You have a few tiny snippets for your opinion which were bone dry in explanations except for 'lurking' and rawr's question prodding.

Also anything you have as an opinion on Action Dan is summed up into the one post based on one of his posts (#121) and a response in #138.

So, you've given opinions really on Trixie, Dormio, ShadyK. Affinity, rawr, and Shadoweh; with none of it actually having a supporting opinion other than say, ~*~sekret~*~, someone not posting=lurking scumbags, or a shitty OMGUS done clearly as a joke.

P.S. I guess I'll need to be clear, when something isn't say, clicking or bugging me, I don't mean that to be straight up middle of the road neutral, I'm saying that nothing with them feels wrong/off.  So basically it's a town call <.<

Shadoweh: The prodding pins thing may be 'constructive', but I'd like to see more than this pin thin skeleton of opinions with no self support.



Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 08:15:48 AM
Are we seriously doing this.
This is the lamest counterwagon ever. No seriously, it's like a joke wagon.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 09:03:37 AM
I also share ShadyK's misgivings with huhwhat; in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797389.html#msg797389), huhwhat arbitrarily clears No Name as newbtown (saying that he would have done this rather than that etc.) while decrying Anthy as scum for pushing weak and easy cases (which No Name had done too) and chastising ShadyK for going after newbies, which is pretty much what the entire PX wagon is doing right now.  It is all weirdly exclusive, and it smells of selective scumhunting.  Would like him to answer to this as well.
The difference between Anthy and the other examples you mentioned is that the others are more audacious. Comments like "hey, GreyICE is being secretive and concise" and "hey, Dormio and Shadoweh are slapfighting" don't really look beyond the surface of posts for intent and don't stick out enough to actively draw attention. His methods haven't been pro-active and his opinions mainly revolve around null actions, so I don't think it's actual town-intended scumhunting. This is different from the PX wagon, which at least involves pressing PX over something legitimately scummy instead of just observing "weird" stuff he's done. Though Nameless' scumhunting has been newb-weak, his flipfloppy switches are boisterous and imply he's not worried what other players think about him, so I believe he's newbtown.

Affinity, what do you actually think of the newer players yourself? You seem to be using Serela and I's stances on them as venues to accuse, but you yourself have none.

I agree that the GreyICE counterwagon is pretty lame. The Anthy vote still feels the most solid to me and his recent content hasn't changed my opinions (rather disappointing that he needs to be prodded for reads), so I'm gonna keep my vote down on him for now out of hope there's a chance for votes to rack up on him once people realize how silly the ICE wagon is and switch off. However, consider my support to be with the PX wagon if this is what's going on during deadline, given that PX has currently done jack shit in response aside from keep his vote down on his town read. Less concerned about ShadyK now that I've seen more from him.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 09:09:17 AM
Though Nameless' scumhunting has been newb-weak, his flipfloppy switches are boisterous and imply he's not worried what other players think about him, so I believe he's newbtown.
I have to agree with weak scum hunting, I'm still trying to get a feel for how this whole thing works. (I'm guessing I should be asking more questions though).
flipfloppy?  I've changed votes all of twice, both times because I thought the person I changed my vote to was more scummy at the time.  boisterous?  I'm not trying to act that way.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 09:13:12 AM
Hey. Hey Affinity. Are you going to ignore the elephant in the room or do you really want to push at it before you rush to a better vote? You're not a cute little newbie like the other two. You have no excuse for this.

If a wagon based on lynching a lurker who is currently voting one of his town reads is bad, how bad is a wagon based on the offensive of lynching a lurker that isn't providing the town with any content? I refuse to let this pass, a wagon practically built defending a person's right to lurk and provide zero reads on the weakest of days for scum. ICE's reasoning behind this is simple and plain to see for someone who isn't digging for bullshit scummy intentions. People who lurk are not encouraged to stop lurking by fakey pressure votes when they 'know' a lynch on a lurker just doesn't happen on Day 1. It's been well documented that the best strategy is to just not be here for the first day. And it's enabled by people like you starting counterwagons on the godamn obvious town doing the most hunting today. Instead of just waiting for PX to come back when he feels like it he wants to take the votes to him and show he's serious. Anyone voting based on a 'prod' needs to realize this person is serious about what he's doing.

So fuck off with your special wagon and find purchase somewhere that isn't going to bite you in the face the next day.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 09:27:25 AM
This is a super educated guess too but the prodding being done at people attacking ICE is probably because of how weird it is for people to be super-hard defending what they've all admitted is a null read themselves for no reason other then to shout Innocent before proven Guilty.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 09:29:35 AM
Elaborate what you mean in that second post, Shadoweh?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 09:37:57 AM
I have to agree with weak scum hunting, I'm still trying to get a feel for how this whole thing works. (I'm guessing I should be asking more questions though).
flipfloppy?  I've changed votes all of twice, both times because I thought the person I changed my vote to was more scummy at the time.  boisterous?  I'm not trying to act that way.
Of course you're not trying to act that way. That's why it's cute and we like you.
I like all the newbies this game actually. This is like a fresh new beginning, I haven't felt this a happy since day effects threatened the land.

I'm not sure how to elaborate that. It's an observation that people seem in general offended that PX could possibly be considered scummy when he's made all of two posts, without taking into consideration that they don't have any proof he isn't either. There's no reason to defend him. Yet there's a wagon of pony lovers.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 09:39:51 AM
Oh, I understand it now and agree with what you're saying. It just needed to be re-worded.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 29, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Still not liking I have no name, the AtE hurts me, but perhaps I'm being too narrow minded here. Let's look at other stuff.

You know, you'd think that PX would be more active on D1.
##FoS PX

Not particularly liking GreyICE's response to Affinity's #141.
All it does is re-emphasize the fact that GreyICE is being pretty selective in what he responds to.
Dislike, but think that PX is more likely to be scum than him.

No clue what Anthy is doing. Null reads on pretty much everyone. Really highly strung up on figuring out someone's town read. A lot of reporting. And so on.
I don't like things that I don't understand.

Eh, whatever. Brain not working.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on February 29, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
Quote from: Shadoweh
If a wagon based on lynching a lurker who is currently voting one of his town reads is bad, how bad is a wagon based on the offensive of lynching a lurker that isn't providing the town with any content?

Sorry, I guess I phrased it wrongly; I have no qualms with the 'reasoning' behind why PX is scummy or even voting and lynching him for the day, it's just that solely voting him and not having any other scumreads is less than ideal, which is indeed the case with you, Serela, and Dan.  The reasons for going after him are so bone-headedly simple that scum can jump on the wagon (if PX is town) with impunity and spout the illusion of 'content'.  It is easy to be pro-town over a lifeless marionette.

There is no factor for future consideration that comes with a choice between X and Y.  It is merely a complete banking on a weak but reasonable assumption that active lurkers are scum, and if the assumption turns out wrong or subverted by, say, a reasonable post + vote from PX, then what remains is either a scramble for the next easiest target, or a failed D1 and a D2 with several people having nothing to their name except a few town-reads.  This has happened in the (ActionDan - Shadoweh - Dormio) scramble for PoR and the Hero999 thing in IMP, as it has in many other games. 

It is thus in town's interest to have at least a second, more interesting opinion on the scumminess of others other than PX.  GreyICE certainly has one on Anthy for 'rolefishing' (?) and tunneling (?), but given that that is a product of what I see as anti-town means, that makes him more scummy.

Quote from: huhwhat
His (Anthy's) methods haven't been pro-active and his opinions mainly revolve around null actions, so I don't think it's actual town-intended scumhunting. This is different from the PX wagon, which at least involves pressing PX over something legitimately scummy instead of just observing "weird" stuff he's done.

This is the funny thing here, most of those voting for PX (Dan, Serela, Shadoweh) aren't exactly proactive beyond the power of their vote and are merely, as you say, making the simple observation that he has no content whatsoever which happens to be universally accepted as scummy.  I'm not quite seeing the distinction you are making between Anthy, ShadyK, and these two groups; your vote does not seem to be a logical consequence of your premises.

Quote
Affinity, what do you actually think of the newer players yourself? You seem to be using Serela and I's stances on them as venues to accuse, but you yourself have none.

I'm not seeing anything worth pointing out for today other than reportering; ShadyK is pro-active and reasonable in his token case against IHNM, with a good range of opinions.

I agree with Anthy's case on ICE, discounting the 'secret shenanigans' which I view as null, though his lack on the opinions on others is disturbing.  I espouse his comment about ICE more or less 'poking people with one sentence explanations' and 'active lurking', which rings true.

rawr's questioning of ICE is legitimate and I'm surprised ICE does not deign to answer him, though he needs to update his vote.  IHNM is completely null and has more or less represented half of where the winds were blowing today as a whole.  In short, not worth persuing today.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
But Anthy's case is the secret shenanigans. If you discount that there's nothing left in the case.

If PX were to magically appear and claim an innocent child that made voting him the epitome of scummy, I don't think the wagons would fall in a panic. There are a few people who are suspect because of the way the wagons have turned out. I got the impression ICE thinks Anthy and Rawr are scum, is that not evident in his posts to you?

I don't mind there being another wagon. I highly mind what that wagon is, because somehow without PX participating in the discussion this has turned into a PX vs ICE day and PX's side has a more then reasonable chance of winning. It's mind boggling.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 01:09:02 PM
Let me try and put that another way. This day is being framed as a 1 vs 1 without the consent of either party (Grey shutup I know you wouldn't mind). I'm positive at least one of these wagons is lame and fake. If PX would get his lazy pony butt in here I'd have an easier time judging whether the other wagon is fabricated or legitimate. Either way if you believe the way you do I don't think encouraging the situation is the answer.

In any case it is my belief people should be unvoted when they've proven things for themselves, not because other people take offense for them.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on February 29, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
There is more to Anthy's case than secret shenanigans as can be seen here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797426.html#msg797426), which I took above.  It is one or two sentences, but then again the PX 'case' can be summarized in one or two sentences too.

Quote
I don't think the wagons would fall in a panic. There are a few people who are suspect because of the way the wagons have turned out.

By panic, I would mean wagons arising which are unsubstantiated by the previous posts of the person in question.  If you think a few people are suspect, then you would do well to share with us as I have suggested.

I acknowledged that ICE has scumreads on rawr and Anthy scummy, but he has done nothing but antagonistically provoke rawr, refusing to answer questions (anti-town in every sense), and give Anthy's case far less attention than it deserves, preferring to harp about him rolefishing and stuff, which is in itself pretty null.  The opinions are there for him to change his vote from PX whenever smoothly, but they lack town justification behind them.  I also notice that he went onto them for going onto him in the first place, as can be seen with the precedent he set with his PX case.  Also, just to state again, I do have reasons as to why I think ICE scummiest for now.  I'm not voting him for the sole reason of balancing the wagons.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 02:52:59 PM
The Plague Ship Diaries

Who knows where the black sails will go

The natives on the island watched in silent horror as the black ship moved forward.  Its tattered sails looked incapable of propelling it, yet onward it lurched, and the natives could only watch in horror.

A rocking horse occupied the Captain's position, gently moving in time with the waves, a constant pendulum.  Although they denied it, it was clear to all the plague ship paid their painted captain great respect.

On the deck, a sinister man with a long drooping moustach sat hunched over his books.  "And if we carry that column we see... Antitown!" the dark accountant crowed, twirling his moustach. 

"Antitown, Antitown" the mechanical parrot on his shoulder cried.  Had anyone wanted to get close they would have seen the broken gears, the feathers glued to a metal frame, the eyes unfocused and faintly glowing.  Here was a dark parody of intelligent life, a symbol of the plague ship's hatred for all that breathed.

Clutching the rails was a new recruit, clearly unaware of the ship he had chosen.  "My gut, my gut" he moaned, emptying the purple, bileous contents over the side.  The rest of the crew ignored his sad cries.

As the plague ship sailed past the horrified natives, they heard a distant query, carried by the water: "does anyone think we could get a doctor?"
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
Why the boat gotta be black and ofcourse the black ship has to be plagued
##unvote
##vote:ice
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on February 29, 2012, 04:23:09 PM
I'm gonna be busy all day going work (it's P-set day!).  I have barely read anything since I last posted.  I have to read affinity and Hw closely. 

Also that vote with no words from Rawr caught my eye and it makes me frown.

At least, in all of this, Shadoweh looks so try-hard townie.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 04:25:28 PM
I have no words to say, my previous posts speak for my vote.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
So Rawr moves to my wagon, following the orders of Affinity... the person he was voting...

I actually think I love this wagon.  <3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 29, 2012, 05:23:12 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - ICE, Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
Dr Rawr (0) -
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  Dormio
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - huh what
ICE (5) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr

ICE is at L-2!


Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~29 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
Yes because i have no reason to vote you, nor have i ever actually thought you were scumy, and lets not forget about how you still ignore my question./sarcasm
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
Yes because i have no reason to vote you, nor have i ever actually thought you were scumy, and lets not forget about how you still ignore my question./sarcasm
You know, I've answered all the questions asked to me that were actual questions. 

I've ignored all the questions that boil down to "I don't like what you're doing, so I'm going to order you to do what I want in the form of a question!"

Now, Rawr, what is your actual, legitimate question that I haven't answered?  Well, Rawr?  Give it here, now Rawr.  You have this line, Rawr, that I'm not answering questions, but this line, Rawr, I do not think it is very true. 

You are a liar, Rawr, and you are voting with someone you apparently thought was scum, on his direct request.  How very, very, very... convienent.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 06:21:15 PM
ok ice ill give to you ice the question ive asked an answer ice but you havent actually given me one ice so here it is ice.

Put your vote where your mouth is are you going to vote dormio? else what does trixies one post have that makes you want to keep your vote on him?
Ohh, you want to know why I won't take the pressure off a lurker whose response to my post was to run away and hide, to put it on someone who is actively posting and helping me get a better read on them?
Please answer my question, i dont need it in a form of a question kthnx

answering this question wont make you town and like i said i want an answer not in the form of a question. affinity only made one posts which i found odd at the start and his recent posts ive been ok with as more town then scum. this is mafia im allowed to change my reads. Pretty much any one who has been questioning you has been labeled as obvscum, you seemed to have forgotten dormio who was your second obv scum, your active lurking, and avoidance of questions is scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 06:23:46 PM
That's what I mean, Rawr, that question is just an order.

"Take your vote off Trixie right now!  Go vote Dormio!" 

Well, no.  Trixie so far has, to her name:
- A confirmation post
- An OMGUS
- A prod dodge where she calls the person her vote is on town

So don't tell me where to stick my fucking vote, Rawr.   

Why is it so scary my vote is on Trixie, Rawr?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 06:27:37 PM
Now Rawr, we're going to play a game.  You're chanting slogans very hard and very loud, but I don't think you know what they mean.

So, step 1, active lurking.  Apparently I'm not giving reads.

You're going to define each person in the town I haven't given reads on, Rawr.  Right now.  I want a list of every person I have not given reads on, Rawr.

Step two, you're going to find another question I have avoided.  "Questions" is plural, Rawr.  You're going to go find them, and dig them out.  And you're going to show how I haven't answered them in any of my posts.

At the end of the exercise, if I don't like the answers Rawr, you will die.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
its not scary your attacks have been on me dormio px and anthy but you never actually bring up a case on either of these people just make slight comments on there posts.

buts its okay youre scum you dont have to asnwer the question

also i do like how again, you misinterpret what people say

useless cut

im not gonna spend the next halfhour getting all the posts together. also did you just claim townvig lol
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
its not scary your attacks have been on me dormio px and anthy but you never actually bring up a case on either of these people just make slight comments on there posts.

buts its okay youre scum you dont have to asnwer the question

also i do like how again, you misinterpret what people say

useless cut

im not gonna spend the next halfhour getting all the posts together. also did you just claim townvig lol
So Rawr, you don't know?

Why would it take you half an hour, Rawr?  This thread is 4 pages long, and you've been reading along.  You're willing to have me die today, certainly you must have a good idea of why, right? 

So certainly you have a good idea of who I haven't given reads on.  Come on, you don't even need to reread, wing it!  Who haven't I given reads on, Rawr?  Off the top of your head.   NOW
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 06:48:48 PM
I had this really funny dream. I dreamed that there was a five vote wagon on someone obviously town because everyone hates loud noises. Good thing when I woke up everyone piled onto a possible scumspect instead and we could all pretend that never happened.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 07:02:20 PM
I had this really funny dream. I dreamed that there was a five vote wagon on someone obviously town because everyone hates loud noises. Good thing when I woke up everyone piled onto a possible scumspect instead and we could all pretend that never happened.
Haha~

Shall we dear?  That response from Rawr was about what I expected, and the 'brave Sir Robin' he just pulled :D

##Vote: Rawr
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
Hey just because Hourai is helping us work out our issues doesn't mean you get to call me dear. =.= I wear the pants in this thread.

HEY TOWNIES YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED TO GET THE FUCK OFF MY PARTNER AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO WAGON ON. THE SHADOWICE CORPORATION DOES NOT TOLERATE YOUR REASONLESS BICKERING AGAINST OUR TOWN PERSONAGES.

I went and bought popcorn to better enjoy his reactions to everyone so I will be damned if you lynch him and make me lose my entertainment.

No Rawr, he's not the vig, he's my partner in vigilante wagon-making and voting. Although he might have a gun too, I will ask in private. And he's not scum.  As I am a fair and benevolent Shadoweh who has mistaken your style for scummy waffling in the past I will give you a chance to redeem yourself from at least my wrath. The 'question' that you quote is him very obviously answering your question of why he wasn't changing his vote, and I'm under the impression he doesn't think Dormio is that scummy in comparison right now. If you can gracefully acknowledge your understanding and perhaps find someone else to wagon correctly you might just stop looking like special scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
It's okay, you can all take your time to line up and kiss my feet. I'm a patient townie empress.

I expect to see five unvotes in the next page.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 07:35:18 PM
if he doesnt think dormio is that scummy why did he call him obvscum lol. also why should i listen to you on who you think is town? last game you were pretty convinced knew hero999 was scum and not to mention even though px said he as scum you were still convinced he was town. sooo no i think ill get my own reads then sheep
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
if he doesnt think dormio is that scummy why did he call him obvscum lol. also why should i listen to you on who you think is town? last game you were pretty convinced knew hero999 was scum and not to mention even though px said he as scum you were still convinced he was town. sooo no i think ill get my own reads then sheep
But you seem to be sheeping Affinity so nicely.

Come on Rawr, quiz time, who haven't I given reads on? 

You don't seem to want to answer the question, Rawr.  Is that scummy?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
This is the funny thing here, most of those voting for PX (Dan, Serela, Shadoweh) aren't exactly proactive beyond the power of their vote and are merely, as you say, making the simple observation that he has no content whatsoever which happens to be universally accepted as scummy.  I'm not quite seeing the distinction you are making between Anthy, ShadyK, and these two groups; your vote does not seem to be a logical consequence of your premises.
Dan had taken a non-easy stance on ShadyK earlier on and I think that was original scumhunting even though he stepped down later. Shadoweh has been pretty aggressive, I disagree she hasn't been pro-active. Serela... okay, Serela's PX vote is fucking terrible, I'll give you that. However, I don't think Serela's post looks like he's trying to avoid attention with what he's saying (otherwise he'd cut out half of his waffling), and I wouldn't prioritize him over Anthy.

For now, though,
##Unvote
##Vote Rawr
I'm willing to lend my support to this.
Rawr has been attacking GreyICE for ignoring questions... and yet apparently it's okay for him to completely ignore GreyICE's request to compile his case (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797808.html#msg797808). This is scummy hypocrisy, and I think their back-and-forth is telling in that it looks like Rawr got caught pushing bullshit on ICE. At least Anthy is adamant enough to support his opinions when his target argues, Rawr's posts look like he wants to take the easy way out of backing up his reads.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
if he doesnt think dormio is that scummy why did he call him obvscum lol. also why should i listen to you on who you think is town? last game you were pretty convinced knew hero999 was scum and not to mention even though px said he as scum you were still convinced he was town. sooo no i think ill get my own reads then sheep
You were scum that game, how would you know what I thought. :V I recall you pulling the same lines on me then too when I wanted to lynch you, discrediting my words without having to deal with my towniness. You should listen to me because being wrong once doesn't make me wrong every single time. ICE said Dormio was obvscum like a page ago, get with the program Rawry.

Also because I'm not guessing. I would link to Masons but MAFIASCUM IS DOWN MY LIFE IS OVER AAAAA and the other description is of a cult of townies that suicides on mafia so I'll just let someone else explain what I'm saying to you. ^_^

OMG DID SOMEONE SAY BANDWAGONS I LOVE BANDWAGONS WHEEE actually I'm not convinced yet so I'm going to continue townie interogation mode for now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
Hey Shadoweh, what're your priorities on people in general like right now? They're spread out over a bunch of posts and as a result I'm confused about where you stand on some things (like why PX is worse than Anthy to you).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
PX is like Schodinger's Mafia Player right now. He is in a flux of towniness and scuminess and if something ticks wrong the gas leaks and he dies. Yes. Exactly like that.

I haven't actually forgotten Anthy nor your wishes for a sweet cleansing wagon that way. It might even be why I hesitate to run the Rawr course despite ICE doing a little dance waving a flag like he caught the biggest trout ever. I'm waiting in anticipation of Anthy's reaction to THE THING THAT MUST BE FIGURED OUT.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
If my switch didn't make it obvious, right now I'm thinking Rawr has been looking worse than Anthy since the back-and-forth between him and ICE.

I feel like my vote would be useless on Anthy regardless, since there's not all that much time left in the day, and everybody interested in voting him has higher priorities and those who aren't are tied up with stuff like the ICE wagon.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 29, 2012, 08:20:55 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
Dr Rawr (2) - ICE, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  Dormio
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (5) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr

ICE is at L-2!


Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~26 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 08:25:53 PM
Oh, by the way, I'll be sleeping during the hours leading up to deadline, and won't be around for it unless I set my alarm. Just a heads up.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 08:42:23 PM
We still have a day, relax. ^^;
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on February 29, 2012, 08:52:41 PM
Uggh I'm in a toss up between Rawr and PX.  PX needs to make a post already so I have a somewhat better idea of his standing but at this rate it doesnt seem to be so.  Rawr on the other hand is acting quite suspicious.  Like this post:
its not scary your attacks have been on me dormio px and anthy but you never actually bring up a case on either of these people just make slight comments on there posts.
buts its okay youre scum you dont have to asnwer the question
also i do like how again, you misinterpret what people say
useless cut
im not gonna spend the next halfhour getting all the posts together. also did you just claim townvig lol
If you wanted to prove yourself you should take the time to make a case ya know? I doubt it'd take a half hour anyways.  Plus I dont think ICE has really misinterpreted what anyone has said.  Care to provide an example?   I'll see what happens from here on out but the more I think about I'm thinking voting rawr might be a good plan but I'll have to see what comes later.   
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on February 29, 2012, 09:42:11 PM
Shadoweh, other than the damn secret I want some actual reasoning behind ICE's opinions, which none is there and I requested them in my last post. Along with that, PX honestly is sliding from neutral lurking to potential scum lurking, there's taking one's time and then there's staring at the crowd from the bushes in a grating manner.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 10:03:38 PM
It isnt much of secret anymore they are mason, which iirc means they can talk to each other(cant remember if its at day or night)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on February 29, 2012, 10:07:19 PM
It isnt much of secret anymore they are mason, which iirc means they can talk to each other(cant remember if its at day or night)
I wouldn't rule out scum masquerading as masons though.

Of course, neither adds up since I think Shadoweh is town and ICE is scum...I could very easily be mistaken on either or both though.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Which makes shadoweh 94 pretty weird to me now
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 10:26:18 PM
...

You seriously think scum is going to respond to getting pushed to L-2 by fakeclaiming CONFIRMED TOWN MASON?

Losing scum on Day 1 is awful enough for the scum team in a Role Madness game, since they need all the roles and numbers they can get. But if they claim mason and one gets lynched, the other will follow, meaning they lose TWO.

And even if they survive D1, if they survive to LYLO they're going to be cast under major suspicion. Masons just isn't a good scum fakeclaim. It wouldn't be too hard for them to just push the PX counterwagon harder... which, by the way, GreyICE isn't even doing. He's focusing on scumhunting and not surviving, which is townie.

Seriously, guys, stop being stubborn and get your votes off the obvtown.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 10:29:36 PM
Masons just isn't a good scum fakeclaim.
Eh, actually, there are situations where it could be, but this one definitely isn't one of them. I meant to put an "on D1" at the end of that sentence but forgot.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on February 29, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
PX (Trixie) has received an official prod.

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
Dr Rawr (2) - ICE, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  Dormio
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (5) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr

ICE is at L-2!


Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 24 hours.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on February 29, 2012, 10:46:28 PM
So youre saying it isnt weird that shadoweh would suspect ICE if he were still alive in 3days even though she just claimed mason?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 10:48:19 PM
Shadoweh also accused ICE of having no idea what subtlety is. I don't think she wanted to make their mason status noticable to scum, because while both are alive it basically makes them simultaneous Innocent Childs with daytalk.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 11:01:28 PM
So, Anthy and Rawr have claimed scum.  How... Incredibly unsurprising.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
It's nice to see Rawr has intimate knowledge of small lines that might give away my power role... But can't remember which players I've given my opinion on, despite it being part of his case on me.

Our quick topic contains scumhunting.

It's very nice to see his quick topic contains lots of role speculation.

YOU JUST CLAIMED SCUM, RAWR.  GOOD NIGHT.  GOODBYE DEAR SHADOWEH I MAY DIE, BUT I DO IT WITH THE BLOOD OF SCUM ON MY TEETH.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on February 29, 2012, 11:22:12 PM
Trixie lost track of time.

Wheee, Trixie has no idea what to put down. Trixie believes this is now time to pull off a Serela.

GreyICE, Trixie dislikes. A lot. But this is probably because he gives Trixie a very UK/LLD vibe, and Trixie REAAAAAAAAAAAALLY dislikes that.

This mason claim is REALLLLLLLLLLLY stupid.

Rawr is Town, I mean, this is almost nothing like his play last game.

You know what?
##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh

Looking through her posts, nope do not like. Trixie notices Shadoweh has done nothing but defend ICE, AND ATTACK HIS ATTACKERS. Defense, okay. Chainsaw attacks focusing only on people she's defending? Not okay. Also, why is your vote still parked on Trixie?

Also, EVERYONE REMEMBER. THIS IS A BASTARD MOD GAME. THERE IS THIS THING INVOLVED WITH BASTARDS KNOWN AS SCUM MASONS. DO NOT ASSUME THINGS IN THIS, EVER. Because The mod is a lying bastard[/b].

Now Trixie shall continue her descent into madness. (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bastard_Mod)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
what the fuck px

"Shadoweh has been attacking people for trying to mislynch a player who is Confirmed Town to her. Obviously this is scummy!"
Yeah, no.

The weirdest thing about this game is that a PX/Rawr/Anthy scumteam would have to be completely retared to throw themselves at the masons so suicidally. I would think at least one scum would go out of their way to not get involved in the chaos. I'm curious what ICE and Shadoweh think about this too.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on February 29, 2012, 11:30:18 PM
Why aren't we lynching PX again?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 11:35:07 PM
I think PX's switch more looks like town paranoia than suicidal scum. If scum wanted to get a mason lynched they could keep pushing ICE. The odds of a Shadoweh wagon are much lower, and if scum wanted to votepark, they'd find a player who didn't softclaim mason. I'd say he actually looks -townier- now even though his post is horrible.

I also don't think Rawr/PX/Anthy as scum together make sense for the reason I just detailed.

Rawr's reaction to the claim is the worst because he's clinging onto his mislynch attempt while avoiding having to actually back it up.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on February 29, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
what the fuck px

"Shadoweh has been attacking people for trying to mislynch a player who is Confirmed Town to her. Obviously this is scummy!"
Yeah, no.

The weirdest thing about this game is that a PX/Rawr/Anthy scumteam would have to be completely retared to throw themselves at the masons so suicidally. I would think at least one scum would go out of their way to not get involved in the chaos. I'm curious what ICE and Shadoweh think about this too.
"they're too scummy to be scum" is a bad can of worms to open.

Though Trixies latest post... I don't know.  I've literally never seen something that ~*~silly~*~ in all my years of playing mafia.

Rawr however is just reading like textbook scum.

Would be fine with either of them dying.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on February 29, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
"they're too scummy to be scum" is a bad can of worms to open.
Eh. I can see why you'd interpret what I'm saying that way, but I prefer not to assume scum is batshit incompetent, so I'm hesitant to push three of them together.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 12:11:16 AM
I dunno. I just got here, since I've been doing other stuff. What's happening?
For now, I think I'll just:
##Unvote
##Vote PX

First off, what's the point for you to switch to Shadoweh. Seems suspicious to me.
Because, you know, you're suggesting scum masons here. Which means that you believe the pair of them to be scum.
The move off GreyICE who was at L-2 onto Shadoweh who had no votes on her is a thing that I believe to be nothing more than a publicity stunt.
Nice fearmongering with the whole bastard mod clause, too.

Anyway, I'll get around to reading the rest of the thread after lunch. Whenever that is.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 12:17:19 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela, Dormio
Dr Rawr (2) - ICE, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) -  PX
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (4) - Anthy, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr




Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~22 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 12:22:57 AM
##unvote
##vote:px

i highly disagree in my play, ive been posting every stupid thing that has been coming to my mind without thinking including voting(also last game i was trying to get scum lynched as scum how could you forget ;_;). Also PX, shadoweh was doing that before you posted your reads so i dont get why that matters now.

Also ICE you have failed to mention serela and affinity or actiondan and is dormio obvscum or obvtown? there cant be 4 scum this game. Im not counting what you said earlier on serela because you didnt give an actual read just mentioned his vote. that racism boat thing didnt say much on affinity either. update on dormio would be cool because you said hes obvscum but all of a sudden hes not obvscum? andyea you didnt mention actiondan. Also a shitton of posts saying yea that posts makes scum scummier... yea alot of those.

@Actiondan why are you going to claim anyways? is it really needed for you to claim on day1?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 12:24:58 AM
The weirdest thing about this game is that a PX/Rawr/Anthy scumteam would have to be completely retared to throw themselves at the masons so suicidally. I would think at least one scum would go out of their way to not get involved in the chaos. I'm curious what ICE and Shadoweh think about this too.
ARE YOU READING OUR QUICKTOPIC HUH WHAT? o_o That's something we said actually. You could in theory split the game right now into IceWagon, PXWagon and None of the above, but it's better to wait for the lynch before drawing a conclusion from it.  They're probably not all scum. I don't yet consider myself psychic enough to finger the entire scumteam without a flip.

Shadoweh, other than the damn secret I want some actual reasoning behind ICE's opinions, which none is there and I requested them in my last post. Along with that, PX honestly is sliding from neutral lurking to potential scum lurking, there's taking one's time and then there's staring at the crowd from the bushes in a grating manner.
"I would like reasonings but I might just hop onto that wagon my suspect is forwarding because it's there." <_<

PX you derp we are not scum masons. I doubt Hourai has even seen that game.
Worryingly I kind of agree with him. I don't see why a scum Rawr would be looking for proof that I'm not a mason instead of taking me at my word knowing I'm town.  huh what, deliver me to the promised land, explain to me how Rawr is textbook scum again. ;_;

Cut: Rawr, why does your post look like someone just told you you're being dumb. >_> You're voting PX because he said you look like town?

Hi Dormio we're thinking of quicklynching Rawr or maybe Anthy what up word
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 12:27:21 AM
Well, I'd like to see either PX or ICE lynched and since most of the ICE voters have switched it looks like PX will be the first to go whether I switch my vote or not.
So, ##Unvote
##Vote: PX L-1 I believe.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 12:30:29 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela, Dormio, dr rawr, i have no name
Dr Rawr (2) - ICE, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) -  PX
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, Affinity


PX is at L-1


Not voting: ShadyK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~22 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
Dude unvote
like right now
before PX troll hammers himself.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 12:32:11 AM
##unvote

Avoiding any quick hammers
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 12:32:57 AM
Dude unvote
like right now
before PX troll hammers himself.
What stopped you from doing this? :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 12:33:24 AM
Cut, dormio said it
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 12:33:54 AM
Rawr cut me before I remembered I could unvote myself. >.>

No namey, are your two biggest suspects seriously the two people who are fighting each other? That's just confirmation biasey, you need to go deeper. They could both be town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 12:34:34 AM
Dude unvote
like right now
before PX troll hammers himself.
##Unvote
Ok, but what exactly is the reasoning?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 12:35:41 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela, Dormio
Dr Rawr (2) - ICE, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) -  PX
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, Affinity



Not voting: ShadyK, dr rawr, i have no name

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~22 hours.

IS THIS ENOUGH VOTECOUNTS FOR YOUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
@I have no name: PX likes to hammer himself. Shadoweh wishes for us to talk more, and PX hammering himself stops that.
Also, need to go out for lunch soonish. Be back whenever.

@Mod: Almost. Just a couple more. Every few seconds.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
It's not just that, Dan has put forth the idea he wishes to do ~*~something~*~ today and I'd rather leave the choice until he's decided if it's something time or not.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
No, Trixie is not going to vote herself. Although Trixie is intrigued by the idea just to find out what exactly Trixie does. Trixie calls bastard mod.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
Shadoweh, Rawr doesn't want to give up his ICE mislynch because then not only does he have to come up with a new stance that he gets held accountable for, but he misses his chance to get a threatening townie mislynched. If he can discredit the mason claim then he doesn't have to switch off. Even after his switch to PX he's still pushing ICE on the side. It's a way of appeasement while still trying to make sure a townie who should be confirmed is lynchable.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 12:53:43 AM
Well all my friends think it's a cool idea so whee~
##Unvote
##Vote: Rawr


PX: Your role might go off if you kill yourself? That's.. poetic. This mod is a bastard.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:03:19 AM
OMG MY THUNDER IT WAS STOLENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Px is town.

Get off him
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
##Unvote


BABABHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAA
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 01:06:17 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (2) -  Serela, Dormio
Dr Rawr (3) - ICE, huh what, Shadoweh
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) -  PX
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, Affinity



Not voting: ShadyK, dr rawr, i have no name, Dan

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~22 hours.

Votecounts you ask? Welllllllllll then
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:07:21 AM
Quote
WHAT YOU GUYS PICK THE ONE TIME I WON'T MIND YOU ENDING MY SUFFERING TO NOT THREATEN A QUICKLYNCH ON ME? You're all a bunch of fricking sadists.

THIS HAD ME GOING THE WHOLE TIME!

GGGGGGGGGGGGDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNITTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:08:46 AM
Literally this was sitting in another tab


Quote
I'm just reading this stuff in utter amazment.

Also Shadoweh, do me a favor and promise that if you are lying about the alignment confirmed part, you'll mention that eventually.  Then again there are crazy people running around who don't seem to be able to collect themselves.

Anyway I might as well let you guys chew on this for a while, while I order some food.

3
2
1

HERE GOES!

And my thunder. all stolen by Px.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:10:26 AM
I CANNOT BELIEVE

my super-cool-awesome plan was ruinned... By DERP
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:17:32 AM
Actually I can't be sure Px is town.  But it's likely he's town.  since his role is almost never a scum role.  Also, another thing, no matter who is the lynch, DONT HAMMER UNLESS I, YES SPECIFICALLY ME, TELL YOU ITS OK.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 01:27:04 AM
I'm going to wait patiently for the takeout food that should be coming in 20 min before I attempt to make sense again.  Talk amongst yourselves while I starve for another half-hour.  When I finish gourging myself, then I'll be... sane.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
Ive never seen actiondan this insane

Cut eat moar
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 01:36:40 AM
If i were scum why would i be pushing a confirmed townie as scum or being lynchable? Also it isnt 100% confirmed so get that out your head.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 01:37:01 AM
That was directed at huhwhat
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on March 01, 2012, 01:40:27 AM
##Unvote

Seriously, I do not know what is going on.  I'll be eating breakfast before I come back, but for now, I'll do a 180 and...

##Vote: ShadyK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 01:41:21 AM
Affinity, why shadyk?

What do you think of rawr.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 01:42:19 AM
I suddenly understand nothing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 01:50:34 AM
Because it looks a little emtpy
##vote: px
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 01:52:13 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) -  Serela, Dormio, dr rawr
Dr Rawr (3) - ICE, huh what, Shadoweh
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (1) -  PX
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (1) - Anthy



Not voting: ShadyK, i have no name, Dan

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~21 hours.


Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 01:57:20 AM
I CANNOT BELIEVE

my super-cool-awesome plan was ruinned... By DERP

You mean Derpy Hooves? Trixie does not wish to be associated with that kind of trash.

@huhwhat
No, defending who is "confirmed townie" isn't scummy. The fact she only scumhunted in the group that voted the "confirmed townie" before anyone else knew is.

I suddenly understand nothing.

FEEL TRIXIE'S PAIN!!!!!!!!!

Because it looks a little emtpy
##vote: px


(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/PX_Timefordeath/facehoof.png)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 02:00:31 AM
@Shadoweh
Trixie is not saying both the masons can be scum, Trixie is implying one of them could scum and the other one subject to lying mod.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 02:04:37 AM
Uh. I feel left out again. Dan, to answer the question I think you wanted to ask, I would mention it if I thought there was a reason to doubt, but I would trust my flip to make it crystal clear.

PX: It's hard to ignore a maddeningly anti-town wagon growing for no discernable reason. It's not a difficult concept. If one sees a bullshit wagon, one looks at said bullshit to find the king fighter bull shitting all over the place.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:08:37 AM
Because it looks a little emtpy
##vote: px
-_-

I thought I was still scum.

Or am I now town, and you made a terrible, terrible mistake?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 02:09:48 AM
Did i say you were town? Get the hint will you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 02:10:51 AM
Trixie can see why people would dislike ICE and vote him. Trixie also dislikes him, but is unsure if scummy.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:13:37 AM
Did i say you were town? Get the hint will you?
So do you think I was bussing Trixie then?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 02:15:19 AM
Idk were you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:17:42 AM
What the fuck is this Trixie, the town knitting circle?  We all sit here and compliment each others amazing avatars and warm personality and let the scum kill us all off?

Or do you make some fucking noise?

Rawr Trixie, what do you think?  Affinity, Trixie, what do you think? 

Mafia, Trixie, do you play it?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:19:09 AM
Idk were you?
Someone named rawr thinks answering questions with questions is scummy.

Would you like to explain to this misguided rawr why it's not scummy here?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 02:25:14 AM
Implying i havent avoided your other questions
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:29:56 AM
Implying i havent avoided your other questions
Oh you have, and we all know that.

So rawr, you believe I was bussing Trixie?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 02:36:05 AM
Idk were you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 02:47:16 AM
If i were scum why would i be pushing a confirmed townie as scum or being lynchable?
I don't know, so you could lynch somebody who shouldn't be lynched? That shit conserves both mislynch targets and nightkills for scum, yo.

Uuuugh I swear Rawr somehow looks scummier to me every time he posts. Looking at his recent scuffle with GreyICE, I'm pretty sure he only switched to PX because he expected the ICE wagon to die out, which is why he's still willing to tangle with ICE constantly while tiptoeing around everything. This is definitely the lynch for the day. More Rawr votes, people, gogogo.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 02:56:55 AM
Idk were you?
I love this question.

If you answer yes, then you have to show exactly why it looks like bussing to you.

If you say no, you have to admit that either me or trixie is town.  OR BOTH OF US.

So literally all you can do is sit there and troll the thread. 

Die now, Rawr.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 03:03:36 AM
Man, what the hell happened while I was waiting to get lunch?
BRB reading the thread, since a quick skim tells me nothing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on March 01, 2012, 03:13:34 AM
Da fuq is going on here while I'm afk?

Okay so let me get this straight. ICE and Shadoweh are masons (As if we couldn't guess this by now, but well now we know for sure. But anyway I have a town read on both so I'm dismissing possibility of one not being town for the moment), PX is "Do Not Lynch Because :Dan:", and... @_@

Affinity and Dan are ??? as of their latest posts (Although I've got a town read on Dan, their current opinions are unknown), PX is -apparently- probably not scum but whatever (before I forget,
##Unvote
and... and... I'm so tired I don't want to look at mafia I just want to get in bed. I hate that I was gone all day and I didn't get to be able to post in mafia until almost 10pm.

I'm going to be back before deadline (By like, one or two hours) so it's tempting to just go "screw it" and go to bed, but it's about time for me to do actual things, even by Serela standards, so I'm trying to trudge through this. My sleep-dep mind is agreeing that rawr is bad. Okay fuck that's all I got. Most of what just happened barely makes any sense at all, I don't even. I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 03:22:04 AM
I don't think that I can make sense of this.

I don't like things that I don't understand.
##FoS ActionDan
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 03:23:45 AM
I don't think that I can make sense of this.
##FoS ActionDan
You must spend most of your life angry and confused
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 03:25:59 AM
Very.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 03:30:26 AM
I would add something but I'm about the same level of tired as before. I'm going to rest and get up soon.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 03:42:03 AM
I've decided.

Since my one trick is used up anyway, and no one is going to kill Px in a million years, I'm going to full-claim (well not flavor/name, just abilities).

Also. Reading #220 makes me think Px doesn't fully know what he is.

Time to enlighten everyone!

YOU ARE A BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTARD!  -  I know there is/are a bomb/bombs in the game.  (note that's not really the ability's flavor name)

My plan was to claim to be the bomb.  I don't know how I would have justified this sucessfully; I was gonna go with "now the vig knows not to shoot me! teehee."   I was hoping the real bomb would take the hint and drop me a tell.  This plan would have been great since Bombs generally take on the role of town leaders.  But yes since Shadoweh's confirm post I was suspecting her of being the bomb and playing her best obvtown game.  Then fuck all Px says something about "I wonder if I can activate my role if I hammer myself!"

PROTIP:  You want to be NKED as a bomb, not DERP hammered.

Now then by both flavor and by another ability I am withholding, It is entirely possible there is a scum bombmaker (like Schezo in Jojo's whose flavor was that of a bomb maker.  Deuce club [one of the four members of the midnight crew] apparently bombed a few members of the Felt before) or a scum bomb.  It is also possible there is more than one bomb, be they town or scum.

So yes, I most certainly think Px is a bomb.  I am going to go so far as to say we should do a mass bomb claim. 

I will try to scumhunt normally in a minute .  Hopefully this won't be too much of a distraction
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 03:46:09 AM
What earthly reason would there be to do a mass bomb claim?

So the scum can't possibly shoot them?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 03:46:36 AM
Since for some reason everyone is content with me as scum and weve been discussing this the past 3? Pages(for me) no one has seemed to mention any other scum reads or well... post any reads at all. Serelas post is a whole lot of nothing. So rather than just wait around for my lynch people should post reads. Also i may or may not be here for the last 5hours of they day so if im at l-1(maybe2) ill go hammer myself and lol as i flip vanilla townie. So yea people should post reads, enough about me ^^.

Also suprise cut by dan.

What  :wat:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on March 01, 2012, 03:49:34 AM
To elaborate on my ShadyK vote, I note that although he had an alright case and questioning on IHNM, I failed to notice in my last post that he dropped it completely because GreyICE said that it was town paraonia here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797497.html#msg797497).  He failed to make a vote after that unvote despite having scumreads on Anthy and PX as cited in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797442.html#msg797442), and puts off the decision even up to this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797896.html#msg797896), where his scumreads changed to the two leading wagons of the day.  I'm not happy with this wait-and-see attitude and his failure to commit to a decision despite having the required materials to make one.

Not really seeing the case on rawr; I already said somewhere that I agreed with his questioning on ICE, and his switch of vote onto ICE from me was already well telegraphed as can be seen in posts such as these (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797211.html#msg797211) earlier in the day.  While pushing for his lynch despite the double mason claim is indeed incredibly silly and (?), I would consider it more newb than newbscum; if he wanted to judge interest in the ICE wagon he could easily played the wait and see game instead of attracting attention.  In short, I think he has had clear opinions for the entire game (especially early-mid D1 on me and ICE), even though his PX and ICE votes are... strange, which is more than what others like Serela, ShadyK, and PX can say. 

If one were to believe Dan's espousal of PX's towniness, I would rather go for either ShadyK, Serela (whose above post is terrible and the embodiment of active lurking even despite his meta), or even Anthy (whose lack of opinions on anyone else as of now is disturbing).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 03:53:19 AM
Also but seriously, bombs take on the role of town leaders?

Any role that is proven by death should be switftly granted said death. 

Now immensely disturbed by everything.

Does anyone play mafia besides me?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 03:54:45 AM
HAHAHAA


THIS SOLVES EVERYTHING

UNVOTE
VOTE: TRIXIE

Rawr, since you think Trixie is so obviously scum, you unvote, then you hammer her. 

PROOFFFFFIITTTT

CHACHING
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 03:59:15 AM
Silly you my votes are never 100% also i dont recall hammering anyone. My unvote was because of: i would not be suprised of px selfhammer.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:00:00 AM
LADIES
GENTLEMEN

THERE ARE NO DOWNSIDES

Since Rawr thinks Trixie is scum, there's no downside to him hammering.  If he doesn't follow town orders, we lynch him like the scumbag mofo he is!

ONWARD AND UPWARD

LETS DO THIS THING
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:01:17 AM
So youre sayig if i just sheeped you all day i would be town lol?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:01:56 AM
So youre sayig if i just sheeped you all day i would be town lol?
WHAT'S THAT RAWR?

I THOUGHT YOU THOUGHT TRIXIE WAS SCUM

WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO HAMMER HER?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:03:33 AM
What? Are you even reading the posts you are quoting?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 04:03:47 AM
What exactly is a bomb anyway?  The term is being thrown around a lot and I have no idea what it means.
(withholding further vote until I know what it is)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:04:33 AM
What? Are you even reading the posts you are quoting?
SURE

THEY'RE YOU EVADING THE QUESTION

WHAT DO YOU THINK, RAWR?  YOU GET TO LIVE!  YOUR SCUMREAD DIES! 

IS THIS NOT A GOOD PLAN?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:04:55 AM
If they get night killed they end up killing there killer
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:05:21 AM
And if they get hammered

They murder the person hammering them

And that's where the fun begins
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
ICE i have no idea what youre talking about. Making less sense then hungry dan.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 04:07:58 AM
Calm down Grey.  Px hasn't confirmed that he is a bomb yet.  Besides your posts are obscuring my vision of Affinity's post.  Btw Affinity looks very town after reading his posts fully. 

ShadyK, Dormio, Ihavenoname, Serela, Hw, Rawr, Anthy.  These are the names circling in my head.  Poe is not going to work as well this game, so I'm going to focus hard.

Also why use the bomb up like that?  I'm CONFIRMING THERE IS A BOMB.  If there is only one, then it is most likely the town's bomb.  I'd rather lynch Rawr if it comes to that than have him hammer.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:08:40 AM
ICE i have no idea what youre talking about. Making less sense then hungry dan.
Bombs kill the person who hammers them.

Of course, as Dan points out, a scum bomb is highly unlikely.  And even if there were a scum bomb, there'd be no way for the town to deal with it without losing a member, and you claimed VT.  VTs are the least valuable members of a town, after all.

So, Rawr, you ready to hammer your scumread?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:09:38 AM
Calm down Grey.  Px hasn't confirmed that he is a bomb yet.  Besides your posts are obscuring my vision of Affinity's post.  Btw Affinity looks very town after reading his posts fully. 

ShadyK, Dormio, Ihavenoname, Serela, Hw, Rawr, Anthy.  These are the names circling in my head.  Poe is not going to work as well this game, so I'm going to focus hard.

Also why use the bomb up like that?  I'm CONFIRMING THERE IS A BOMB.  If there is only one, then it is most likely the town's bomb.  I'd rather lynch Rawr if it comes to that than have him hammer.
Cool.  That means I have to trust your alignment, and trust that confirmed role = confirmed alignment.

Or we fucking use the claimed bomb to get a second lynch today.

DUHHHHHH

BASIC MAFIA THEORY

BOMB CLAIMS UNDER PRESSURE MEAN TWO LYNCHES THAT DAY
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:12:09 AM
Im pretty sure i already voted px.

Also i noticed you didnt vote px you didnt use the ## so it doesnt count.

I also noticed you half assed read my post, i was talking about my own selfhammer. Try reading it
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 01, 2012, 04:12:36 AM
Yeah Affinity I see what you're saying truth be told I was gonna vote PX but then changed my mind after a new post by someone.  I thought Anthy might be scum as well but then the Rawr thing popped up and then I got confused.  Anthy might be scum still but my opinion shifted from him to rawr with new posts.  So yeah ive withheld my vote for awhile but ive done it cuz everything got real confusing.  And now PX is apparently a bomb and ice has got this thing with rawr going on and it's just aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.  Yeah the reasoning sucks but if there's something else you want from me I'd be happy to provide it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
Im pretty sure i already voted px.

Also i noticed you didnt vote px you didnt use the ## so it doesnt count.

I also noticed you half assed read my post, i was talking about my own selfhammer. Try reading it

Good.

Confirmed town is ordering you to unvote.  Right.  Now.

You will now unvote Trixie.  To do otherwise is a scum claim. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 04:13:50 AM
Bombs kill whoever kill them back

That said

Since when was everypony decided that Trixie was a bomb?

You want to lynch Trixie now because somepony declared Trixie to be a bomb?

Trixie does not know what she does when she dies.

7 Cuts
##Unvote
Vote: GreyICE


3 more cuts
...
##Unvote
##Vote: GreyICE
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:14:46 AM
Oh cool!  You have an unknown role confirmed upon your death! 

THAT'S NOT SCUMMY AT ALL!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:15:30 AM
To be perfectly, 100% crystal clear, Trixtastic - you are claiming 100% NOT BOMB? 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Kitten4u on March 01, 2012, 04:16:53 AM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) -  Dormio, dr rawr, ICE
Dr Rawr (2) -  huh what, Shadoweh
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, PX



Not voting: ShadyK, i have no name, Dan, Serela

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~19 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 04:17:09 AM
Trixie claims this mod is a bastard. Trixie could quote her PM, but that would be utmost ridiculous.

Trixie knows not what happens when she dies.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 04:17:25 AM
I'm not the only one highly disliking Dan right now, am I?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 04:22:20 AM
I'm not the only one highly disliking Dan right now, am I?

explain why you don't like me.  you've been forgettable for a good while.  Put your thinking cap on and give it your all.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on March 01, 2012, 04:31:28 AM
I have nosebled four tissues of blood while reading this page. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 04:33:15 AM
ehhhh....now knowing what a bomb is I definitely don't want to be last (I want to keep playing so I can get better, I can't do that if I'm dead).
##Vote PX
Still don't trust ICE, don't trust rawr that much right now either.  Ditto for ShadyK (basically, my hunches from a while ago are the only people with votes on them at the moment).

Dormio seems to be relatively town currently.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:34:08 AM
The part where youre asking bombs to claim so scum dont have to target them?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 04:34:47 AM
Because I find your behaviour in posts #223-230 to be highly distracting.
I do not understand why you would withhold information after making such a big deal out of it.
I do not understand why you would claim your role, but not the name or flavor. Even when you're claiming to "fullclaim".
I do not like your reliance on using roles to clear people.
I dislike the way you went about voting ShadyK. (Because of when ShadyK's post was made etc. etc.)
I do not understand how you went from Vote PX (#103) to OMG PX IS SO TOWN UNVOTE (#223-230).
I also fail to see any real scumreads from you. (Bar the early one on ShadyK that I dislike for other reasons.)

Also, rolefishing. :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 04:41:31 AM
Rawr unvotes now or claims scum.

These are the two options Rawr.

Pick which in your next post.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:45:11 AM
Ill think about it later~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 04:50:44 AM
I'd rather lynch Rawr for being incredibly obvscum than gamble on whether the bastard mod did or did not make PX a bomb. At this point he's just being intentionally obtrusive.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 04:54:12 AM
...on that note, though, I -do- agree Rawr should be the one to hammer if we do end up lynching PX, just in case.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 04:55:33 AM
Oh hey ice and huhwhat there are other people out there. Since you have come to the conclusion that i am scum maybe make other posts that dont involve me. No need to declare the same thing every post lol.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 05:04:25 AM
That's because you're the person I want lynched. Eyes on the prize imo.

Anthy is still scummy, but not as much as you, and he hasn't posted recently enough for my opinions on him to really change. PX's handling of the mason claim is terrible, but I keep getting a nagging feeling in the back of my head that he's bad and/or paranoid town, and I already went over my basic reasons for why before.

I'm not seeing reasons to lynch anybody else today. Serela is a good vig target as is typical for him, but I'd be surprised if there was somebody in this game who wasn't thinking that. The rest of the players are either not interesting enough to comment on or town reads not in danger of being lynched (therefore not worth commenting on). Your deflection is noted, though.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 05:08:12 AM
Vote: Rawr
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:10:58 AM
It wasnt a deflection. Its just weird how people keep making same posts about me being scum over the past 3? Pages now and not voice any other opinions or people. We unvoted because we wanted more words and to hear dans claim. Not "drrawr is scum" every couple of posts.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 05:13:24 AM
How many hours until the end of the 'day'?
I want to know if I need to make my final vote changes (if necessary) tonight or tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:13:46 AM
Like 20hours
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 05:14:40 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) -  Dormio, dr rawr, i have no name
Dr Rawr (3) -  huh what, Shadoweh, ICE
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, PX



Not voting: ShadyK, Dan, Serela

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~18 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 01, 2012, 05:18:22 AM
Alright PX has got me confused now so I'm just gonna go with
##Vote:Dr.Rawr
Honestly Ive got nothing else to add to the above reasons.  It's just obvious  how he wont follow up with what ice has said and keeps trying to get the topic off of him. That and after recent posts I dont really feel like messing with a PX vote at this point right now.  It seems kinda risky to get rawr to vote on a supposed 'bomb'  because who knows if it's true. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:20:59 AM
If i really wanted people to unvote me do you really think i would do it in such an obvious way and say "quit talking about me"?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 01, 2012, 05:23:54 AM
Honestly I dont know Im tired but the way you handled it wasnt well.  There might be a better way and if there is I wouldnt know it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:26:25 AM
Everyone seems to be tired  :(
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 05:33:04 AM
Alright PX has got me confused now so I'm just gonna go with
##Vote:Dr.Rawr
Honestly Ive got nothing else to add to the above reasons.  It's just obvious  how he wont follow up with what ice has said and keeps trying to get the topic off of him. That and after recent posts I dont really feel like messing with a PX vote at this point right now.  It seems kinda risky to get rawr to vote on a supposed 'bomb'  because who knows if it's true.
Well that's the point.  If it isn't true, then we've found scum, dead trixie scum.

If it is true, then Rawr dies. 

However Rawr has dug in his heels and fought the plan, which is just asking for death.  And I am so fine with that.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:36:27 AM
Having townies sacrifice themselves just to answer your own questions doesnt seem pro town to me. If both me and px end up town thats all on you then.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 05:38:59 AM
Having townies sacrifice themselves just to answer your own questions doesnt seem pro town to me. If both me and px end up town thats all on you then.
If both you and Trixie end up town, then we just got two lynches for one night kill.   Given it's you and trixie, SURE! 

However your continued refusal to do ANYTHING leads me to believe we won't get a town flip. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:42:17 AM
Er how would that stop the night kill again?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 05:44:03 AM
Er how would that stop the night kill again?
Otherwise it'd cost us two night kills to lynch you both.

But you've saved us some serious time~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:53:35 AM
So youre saying that you would risk 3 potential town kills d1, risk/possibly fucking up d2, and d3 would be lylo? Am i getting this right? Im assuming 3scum here
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 05:57:39 AM
So youre saying that you would risk 3 potential town kills d1, risk/possibly fucking up d2, and d3 would be lylo? Am i getting this right? Im assuming 3scum here
There's 12 players in the game.  If we assume 3 scum, and zero scum lynches, day 3 is always going to be LyLo.

But your panicky 'oh no, think of the consequences of lynching me!' defense has me vewwy happy.  Guess what the consequences of not lynching ever are?  Oh yeah, auto scum win. 

I'll take lynching any random player who I don't know to be town over that, literally.  And you?  You are not a 'random player' in any way. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 06:02:17 AM
##unvote

Sounds legit
If px ever gets to l-1 ill just run in and hammer. I am pretty curious on what happens with px death.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 06:07:33 AM
Vote: Trixie

I am too.  If nothing else because if there are zero bombs in the game, Dan just claimed scum~

Unless the moderator gave him a role that says there's bombs in the game and put zero bombs in the game, which isn't so much bastard mod as just really bad mod.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
Also i will be amazed if px ends up scum. This would be like the 4th time in a row for him, i think last game he said it was his 3rd lol.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 06:14:55 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (3) -  Dormio, i have no name, ICE
Dr Rawr (3) -  huh what, Shadoweh, ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (2) - Anthy, PX



Not voting: Dan, Serela, dr rawr

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~17 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 06:18:50 AM
##Unvote
##Vote PX (L-3)
I'm fine with double lynch, for reasons that should be obvious if you've been reading my posts up to this point.

However, I don't think we should wait too close to deadline to put PX at L-1 if we're doing this, because then we run the risk of Rawr not complying and forcing us into NL, particularly if the two are buddies (though I don't think that's particularly likely at this point).

On a related note, nevermind about not being around for deadline. I got the times confused!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 06:20:51 AM
Or wait, with all this "IF YOU HAMMER PX YOU'LL DIE" talk I forgot that PX didn't actually claim bomb. <_<

##Unvote
##Vote Rawr

Do we really think PX is probably a bomb?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 06:22:54 AM
Basically, if Rawr survives the day because PX wasn't a bomb I'll be pretty pissed.

It's entirely possible Dan's role refers to something else.

In fact PX hasn't even fullclaimed yet.

This all feels very premature and I'm getting second doubts. ICE, what makes you certain of bomb!PX?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 06:32:06 AM
Basically, if Rawr survives the day because PX wasn't a bomb I'll be pretty pissed.

It's entirely possible Dan's role refers to something else.

In fact PX hasn't even fullclaimed yet.

This all feels very premature and I'm getting second doubts. ICE, what makes you certain of bomb!PX?
- the 'mysterious role that I don't know what it does' is a ridiculous claim in every single way. 
- Roles that are proveable on death are basically saying 'well I might be some sort of cool power role but YOU'LL NEVER KNOW!  Unless you kill me of course!  But the scum should totes be the ones to do that.'  No results, no claims, no pressure
- ActionDan claimed to know there's bombs in the game.  If Trixie doesn't flip bomb and there really are no bombs, then ActionDan just claimed scum.   (Or again, bastardry on a level that has literally never been seen, at least since Aqua Teen Hunger Force mafia)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 07:33:58 AM
Trixie has already fully claimed her role.

My role literally says I'm ???. Trixie is not kidding. That is Trixie's fucking actual role name.

All Trixie know is that something happens when Trixie decides to leave. Not claiming a bomb, not claiming ActionDan is right or wrong.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 01, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
>Potential bombs
>resulting responses

it's 3:30 am in the morning and this is me resisting flipping a table to go with this insanity. 

##Unvote

Since ICE has grown to be the lesser of targets.  Seeing how it's either become a lynch rawr and move on or vote PX and have rawr attack. I really got no damn clue because all of rawr that I can see at the moment has been questioning the unquestionable ICE as PX has been busy with other things not mafia.  I'm going to just get something for my head and curl up in a ball before I have to leave for school with tests and what not about while I dope myself up on caffeine.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
I'd prefer to have PX lynched over Rawr.

It's not like he's going to contribute more if we don't lynch him.
The stuff he has said seems contradictory to me, too.
Take, for example, his votes on Shadoweh and GreyICE.
First, he votes for GreyICE during the RVS. Whatever.
Then he follows up with his quick opinions post in which he states that he finds bot GreyICE and Shadoweh to be townie.
(The fact that he finds everyone to be either townie or null is a thing too.)
He then comes back a while later with the burning passion that Shadoweh is scum for defending her claimed mason buddy.
I mean, okay, at this point it seems legitimate enough if you chalk it up to paranoia with the bastard mod clause.
However, what the hell does that make the explanation he gives later in #240 that only one of them are scum.
This makes no sense whatsoever to me.
You're saying that you believe that Shadoweh and GreyICE are masons, yet are attacking Shadoweh for defending her mason buddy.
You then attack GreyICE for attacking you. (At least, that's what I assume, since you fail to give any real reasoning whatsoever.) This is, in essence, attacking someone because they're attacking someone that you can confirm as town. (Not saying that you are, just saying the reasoning behind attacking people that attack you.)
Yet, why does this not apply to Shadoweh? Why do you get to attack Shadoweh for attacking people that she supposedly knows is of the same alignment as her when you do the very same thing?
Also, in voting GreyICE, what the hell is running through your head in regards to the mason claim?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Affinity on March 01, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
I'll have to admit that ICE's proposition is reasonable enough.  PX is being absolutely silly this game; a double lynch if PX is a bomb is always helpful on D1 regardless of the people involved, and the outcome may tell us more about ActionDan's alignment.  Still not happy with lynching rawr, but whatever if he himself agrees to it.

##Unvote
##Vote: PX

Anthy's terribly vacuous late D1 and lack of opinion on the mason claim is absolutely horrible though, and it deserves to be looked to tomorrow.  Same goes with ShadyK (sheeping and wait-and-see) and Serela (active lurking), and perhaps IHNM (for more or less not doing anything of note). 

ShadyK, we get that you want to lynch rawr, but why him over other arguably scummy candidates like Anthy and Serela?  How does his 'hypocritical action of refusing to compile his case and late switch to PX from ICE' compare to, say, Serela's active lurking?

Anthy, IHNM, why is the mason claim totally passing over your head?  What about this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797933.html#msg797933) explanation that scum has no reason to fakeclaim as masons on D1 do you not agree with? 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 10:46:02 AM
Huh what if you think its better to not wait till the end of the dead line, why the hell did you unvote px? Kinda the opposite effect here...

Dormio if you want px lynch then vote him. Id rather have you put your vote down before you sleep.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 01, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
Dormio if you want px lynch then vote him. Id rather have you put your vote down before you sleep.
Look at the people voting PX and tell me this again. :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 10:53:33 AM
If it makes you feel better shadoweh is gonna vote px because ice got his vote on px. :V could probably sum up shadowehs game right there also
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 11:58:51 AM
Also your vote totally wasnt there ealier i swear
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Cant believe it took me an hour to realize that
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 12:01:22 PM
Why i shouldnt be posting in mafia at 5am with 4hours of sleep.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 03:30:30 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) -  Dormio, i have no name, ICE, Affinity
Dr Rawr (3) -  Shadoweh, ShadyK, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (1) - PX



Not voting: Dan, Serela, dr rawr, Anthy

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~7 hours.

Whoopsie, edited wrong votecount, fixed now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
##unvote

Pretty sure i did this ealier
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
orz im sorry but that vote count looks wrong in a couple different ways
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 03:47:55 PM
Have patience, I fixed it. okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 05:27:02 PM
I fell asleep, did I miss anything interesting while I was gone? :D

We're not lynching PX. I will eat my words a third time maybe but I don't want to. Hold on, I should check something. TO THE BACON CAVE!

Okay I'm back. WE ARE NOT LYNCHING PX BECAUSE MAYBE HE'S A BOMB. I am staring daggers into all of you. You want to lynch him because he's telling the truth? Because your plan here relies on 'PX is maybe scum but maybe he's telling the truth so okay let's get him'. I don't know if you've forgotten but PX makes really obvious lying fakeclaims. I have a better idea. Let's send him to LYLO and see what happens. :D I'm not surprised about ICE's response to it, he sounds exactly like he did in every other game I was stalking him in. I mean uh.

I had a momentary OMG HE'S NOT MAD WE WANT TO LYNCH HIM but curiousity works out for me.

Hey PX, this is a serious question. Do you have a win condition? And are you possibly some sort of glass orb? My comment about you being Schrodinger's Mafia Player is so much funnier to me now.

There is so much facepalm at Dan. But I can understand why you would warn us PX might be a bomb when it looked like we were going to lynch him.  I'm sorry I can't explode for you. :< Please do not have people mass bomb claim.

I don't really want to lynch Rawr either. He sounds so cute and confused. You know who I do want to lynch?

##Vote: I have no name


No one asked you to hammer the bomb. Why did you feel the need to tell us you wouldn't hammer one?
Secondly, with that Dan said about scum having a bombmaker, that casts a weird light on putting PX at L-1 in the first place.

ICE also wants to know if we want to quicklynch Anthy for his scuttling unvote in the middle of all that. Anthy had a scum read on PX that was building up. The lack of a vote moved onto PX when that lynch was looking possible is also weird. I'm worried about who it is possible to lynch at all. If it comes down to it, I want either IHNN or Anthy to be hammering PX.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 05:27:47 PM
lol i r teh best votar
##Unvote
##Vote: I have no name


ps play me
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
MRR I am looking at the time and there is five hours to do this in. This calls for a TOWNIE ASSEMBLY.
Lurking through by the two named people should be counted as scum claims btw. Townies should not be afraid to die for their country.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
 :X

honestly this whole actiondan confused about PX thing sounds dumb. I cant understand why actiondan would go and make a fake claim when someone is about to get hammered. It looks kind of like to me hes trying to draw attention away from px. dan then decides to unvote and say hes okay with my wagon only because he doesnt want me hammering px. This doesnt realy hold because dan doesnt know if px is a bomb and px doesnt even know if hes a bomb. Theres also the part where dan is so vague about what his role is we cant be sure if hes telling the truth. If px doesnt reach l-1 soon im going to just vote him for majority. I am ok with actiondan, px, or hell even myself today.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 05:50:56 PM
That's the point, he wouldn't make a fakeclaim when someone else is about to get hammered. That would be incredibly silly.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 05:52:26 PM
But he was about to fakeclaim bomb

Quote
My plan was to claim to be the bomb.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Well obviously if he told us he was going to be scummy he must be scum.

You should think about where you got that information then realize you're arguing that Dan purposely incriminated himself for no reason. Rawr, the only alignment in this game you can ever be sure about is your own. You should be willing to fight for your survival. Never just be okay with your own lynch.

Dan hasn't been vague with what his role does, he's told us alot of information we couldn't have otherwise. PX hasn't been vague insomuch as he's told us exactly how vague his role is.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 06:07:45 PM
Just woke up.  I have a meeting in an hour, but I should be back in 1-2 hours after that.

Shadoweh, your post was the sanity check I needed.  Thank god you have a QT with Ice so you can control his primal urges.

##Vote: Ihavenoname

This is the guy I've been thinking about more and more.  Always feels on the fringe.  Moreover, the "I want to continue to play the game because I'm a newbie" did NOT sound like a newbie ready to die for their country alignment.

I still have yet to do a through examination, but Hw's name floats up to often for my liking.  Also I should double check what affinity said about ShadyK, it sounded good (although I've liked ShadyK for a while now).

Dormio is a brat, and still isn't thinking at all.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 06:12:11 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) -  Dormio, i have no name, ICE, Affinity
Dr Rawr (2) -  ShadyK, huh what
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (2) - Shadoweh, Dan
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (1) - PX



Not voting: Serela, dr rawr, Anthy

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in ~4 hours. Let's say high noon. (At least in my timezone)


Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
Shadoweh, your post was the sanity check I needed. 
Oh my god we're screwed.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Oh my god we're screwed.

:<

leaving cya later
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 07:28:34 PM
Woah.

Vote: I have no name
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 07:32:19 PM
I fell asleep, did I miss anything interesting while I was gone? :D

We're not lynching PX. I will eat my words a third time maybe but I don't want to. Hold on, I should check something. TO THE BACON CAVE!

Okay I'm back. WE ARE NOT LYNCHING PX BECAUSE MAYBE HE'S A BOMB. I am staring daggers into all of you. You want to lynch him because he's telling the truth? Because your plan here relies on 'PX is maybe scum but maybe he's telling the truth so okay let's get him'. I don't know if you've forgotten but PX makes really obvious lying fakeclaims. I have a better idea. Let's send him to LYLO and see what happens. :D I'm not surprised about ICE's response to it, he sounds exactly like he did in every other game I was stalking him in. I mean uh.

The theory on bombs looks like this:

1) The scum never shoot them
2) Claiming Bomb under pressure means that we were about ready to lynch the person anyway
3) So what's the options?

We can leave them alive until end game, at which point, well, if they're scum we're fucked, and we'll never goddamn trust them

Or we can have the #2 choice hammer the bomb.  That's two lynches, if they're telling the truth, and one scum lynch if they're not.

Game changes if someone claims bomb during mass claim, but that is that and this is this.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 07:35:41 PM
SERIOUSLY SHADOWEH

YOU SURE ABOUT THIS?

'CAUSE TRIXIE'S ROLE CLAIM IS UNBELIEVABLE IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD

TRIXIE'S PLAY IS ALSO UNBELIEVABLE
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
##Unvote
##Vote PX

I dislike last minute quickwagons and still think Nameless is silly newbtown. I'm not buying this and would still like my Rawr death, presumably by bomb since his wagon is dead.

I don't think Rawr's confusion looks like townie confusion, either. A lot of it looks more like he's just spouting bullshit to stall and generate noise by pulling ICE into back-and-forth arguments that don't actually cause progress.

Rawr: I was talking about waiting until like 30 minutes before deadline, and I was going to be back a while before then (and I am).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 07:41:26 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (3) - Shadoweh, Dan, ICE
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (1) - PX



Not voting: Serela, dr rawr, Anthy

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 2 hours and 20 minutes.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 07:43:47 PM
I agree with the theory. The only difference in this case is PX didn't claim bomb himself. Someone else claimed it for him. He can't even confirm it's true. Or won't. Whichever. I think the clamour to agree with the lynch plan speaks for itself. Shadoweh hates when everyone agrees. >:<

Huh what don't lie to me, you love last minute quickwagons. Love them~ Remember that time we did that? That was awesome~

I am not sure we have time to work another 7 vote wagon. I'm willing to concede to throwing PX to the wolves since he won't even bother to come in here and make a counterwagon happen, but I want more options then 'let's have Rawr hammer because he will probably die'.

##Unvote
##Vote: PX
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 07:45:06 PM
Vote: Trixie
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 07:46:25 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, ICE
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) - Dan
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (1) - PX

PX IS AT L1



Not voting: Serela, dr rawr, Anthy

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 2 hours and 15 minutes.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
PX don't hammer yourself. The townie nations would appreciate it if you did not possibly waste your role.
Unless you be scum and want to troll hammer again and make me look like an idiot. Cmon don't do it to me three times in a row.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
I can't think of anybody who I would want to hammer PX other than Rawr or Anthy.

Nameless has a lot more town confusion than rawr does. Still think that as scum he'd either be more aggressive or less aggressive because he'd care about looking townie. All his responses to pressure have seemed bluntly honest to me. I'd rather not have him be the one to hammer.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 07:51:07 PM
Wheee, come in and make a counter wagon. On what? Nobody is going to care. ICE wants me dead because the god damn mod's PM is so ass. You all think I'm a bomb based on what somebody else said. People are jumping off ICE on to me (By the way, look towards them). And my interest in playing died a long ago.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 07:51:51 PM
hammer now y/n?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
N, because I'm pretty sure Shadoweh still wants to talk stuff over. We also need to hear from Serela again.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 07:56:13 PM
@_____@
Rawr why do you not care if you live or die seriously?! AAAAAAAAUGH
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 07:58:19 PM
Crack  theory: What if Rawr is buddies with a scum bomb, and is therefore eager to hammer PX because he already knows what Dan's role is referring to and doesn't have anything to fear?

IDK vOv
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
shadoweh we still dont even know if its a bomb
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 08:01:27 PM
im not into that kind of thing... well maybe alittle
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 08:04:42 PM
also huh what that sounds really dumb, why would towndan protect scumrawr. hes already pointed out he was ok with my lynch if one of his posts but kept it at unvote.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
o let me understand this Rawr, you're okay with it because you think PX and Dan might be lying?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 08:17:29 PM
Unvote
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 08:19:16 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, ICE
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) - Dan
Shadoweh () - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

PX IS AT L1



Not voting: Serela, dr rawr, Anthy, PX

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends in 1 hours and 40 minutes.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 08:21:56 PM
ok back.

Also I just got a fortune cookie that said this:

"Be willing to believe in anything that is good"

Sage. Advice.

I am frustrated. And confused.  Px's claim does not look fake.  I do not think as scum he'd claim to be able to do something when he dies, because naturally, everyone would want him to die.

Also.  ROLECALL. who's here?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 08:23:18 PM
Also.  ROLECALL. who's here?
o/

Also, town Dan wouldn't know that scum Rawr is scum. <_< I wasn't trying to imply the two of you were buddies, just that it's possible you could know who the bomb is if you're scum. Dan doesn't need to be your buddy for this to happen.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 08:27:42 PM
Also the complacency with this lynch besides the obvtown elements of myself and shadoweh should clue people in that scum don't give a damn.

Anyway I'm gonna focus
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 08:29:25 PM
Duffman SUPARFLEX
I mean I'm still here for about 20 minutes. Then I will roll to work.

Dan gets why I'm flipping out in disgust right now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 08:32:38 PM
Dan, is the only reason you have for believing Trixie-Town the fact that her claim makes no sense?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 01, 2012, 08:32:53 PM
Here's an after school post about my lazy ass post at 3 in the morning :D

The mason claim just puts two and two together since I was already suspecting a sort of linked role between the two. Along with ICE being linked with shadoweh that leaves him to the side now.  My not voting PX is cause his lurking at the time was making me suspicious but I didn't want to jump the gun, which doing it now is also a bad idea (L-1 and all if I read right). Honestly this whole bomb thing has me confused and annoyed as it stirred shit up so fast.  What if it's just some roundabout ass move of scum to just shake shit up?  But then worse things have happened and I'm a stubborn fucker who has realized he's made an ass of himself on something unknown thinking it'd be ~*~the best direction ever~*~

Overall I got no damn clue on px if bomb or not and using rawr as a suicide disarm device sounds like a wonderful and potentially insane move to do.  I'm up for potential mass murder but then I got to get my ass to work.

Tl;dr I'm lazy, mason reveal makes sense and I'm too stuborn to give up on something when it should be blantantly obvious. Lynch is pointing at rawr or PX, I don't feel much on rawr and PX's ??? Annoys the crap out of me. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
let me say this, you wont be voting px, i will
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 08:35:50 PM
Also the complacency with this lynch besides the obvtown elements of myself and shadoweh should clue people in that scum don't give a damn.
I probably wouldn't be supporting it if I didn't feel it was the only way I could get rid of the person I feel is scum at this juncture. I imagine this is how most people feel about it as well.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 08:37:06 PM
@_@

Anthy name three people you think are scum please.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 08:41:41 PM
I probably wouldn't be supporting it if I didn't feel it was the only way I could get rid of the person I feel is scum at this juncture. I imagine this is how most people feel about it as well.

Don't assume other people feel like you do.   You may be genuine, but the others may not be.  I'm doing quick isos but so far you look ok.  Of course if rawr is town you don't have much to lose, but you aren't feeling fake to me at the moment.

I swear Shadoweh if you don't flip mason, GreyIce has been playing ridiculously as of late.

Still reading
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 08:44:32 PM
ICE is a ridiculous man, Dan. Ridiculous doesn't mean scummy. Personally I can't stop giggling.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
Dan, is the only reason you have for believing Trixie-Town the fact that her claim makes no sense?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 08:58:12 PM
-_- I have to leave for work. Since I'm pretty sure Anthy just left and isn't going to hammer, Rawr should do it now. There isn't time to wait and if Rawr does decide to pull out we need time to react. Serela is just going to have to get nailed tomorrow. As well as THE ONE WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:00:16 PM
Mostly, Yes.  Look, I know there is a BOMB in the game (active or inactive).  I asked that question specifically to Hourai, and he confirmed it.  Px is the only claimed thing that does something on death.  putting 2 and 2 together make me think my role exists to make sure town has a chance to not fuck themselves over.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 09:00:42 PM
Uhm actually if I count right Rawr can you please hammer like right now now
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 09:01:33 PM
...Okay there's still an hour. I really hate my clock that doesn't agree with the time here.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:01:55 PM
we have an hour.  just saying.

not really liking the post where affinity votes Px.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:03:11 PM
Mostly, Yes.  Look, I know there is a BOMB in the game (active or inactive).  I asked that question specifically to Hourai, and he confirmed it.  Px is the only claimed thing that does something on death.  putting 2 and 2 together make me think my role exists to make sure town has a chance to not fuck themselves over.
Bombs never fuck the town over -_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
Rawr or anthy needs to hammer in their next post.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Shadoweh on March 01, 2012, 09:04:58 PM
They could if they're scum!

Okay, I'm heading out, play nice guys, looking forward to the town flips!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:05:06 PM
Bombs never fuck the town over -_-

Bombs that don't know they are bombs just might.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:06:56 PM
Here's an after school post about my lazy ass post at 3 in the morning :D

The mason claim just puts two and two together since I was already suspecting a sort of linked role between the two. Along with ICE being linked with shadoweh that leaves him to the side now.  My not voting PX is cause his lurking at the time was making me suspicious but I didn't want to jump the gun, which doing it now is also a bad idea (L-1 and all if I read right). Honestly this whole bomb thing has me confused and annoyed as it stirred shit up so fast.  What if it's just some roundabout ass move of scum to just shake shit up?  But then worse things have happened and I'm a stubborn fucker who has realized he's made an ass of himself on something unknown thinking it'd be ~*~the best direction ever~*~

Overall I got no damn clue on px if bomb or not and using rawr as a suicide disarm device sounds like a wonderful and potentially insane move to do.  I'm up for potential mass murder but then I got to get my ass to work.

Tl;dr I'm lazy, mason reveal makes sense and I'm too stuborn to give up on something when it should be blantantly obvious. Lynch is pointing at rawr or PX, I don't feel much on rawr and PX's ??? Annoys the crap out of me.

I mean literally, you admit to spending the entirity of day 1 power role hunting?  And you're proud of this fact?

If you're town, you are the most amazingly useless townie ever created.  You should be shot, killed, hung, and eviscerated.  In a village full of idiots you'd STILL stand out as the town VI.

Can someone PLEASE tell me this man has a non-single digit IQ so I can lynch him like the enormous scumbag he looks like?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Edible on March 01, 2012, 09:08:25 PM
Yo.

Play nice.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:09:32 PM
I mean literally, you admit to spending the entirity of day 1 power role hunting?  And you're proud of this fact?

If you're town, you are the most amazingly useless townie ever created.  You should be shot, killed, hung, and eviscerated.  In a village full of idiots you'd STILL stand out as the town VI.

Can someone PLEASE tell me this man has a non-single digit IQ so I can lynch him like the enormous scumbag he looks like?

its posts like that which makes me want to slap you.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:10:34 PM
its posts like that which makes me want to slap you.
Why?  'cause I say the truth

Seriously, WHO SPENDS THE ENTIRITY OF DAY 1 POWER ROLE HUNTING AND THEN IS PROUD OF IT?

AT LEAST CHUCKLE IN THE SCUM QT
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on March 01, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
Don't hammer yet! I'm seeing many people saying "Just hammer now" but the post I'm typing up is almost done and D:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:11:51 PM
Also, that was the nice version.

The not nice version had about 500% more expletives and questioned Anthy's parentage, schooling, life choices, and strongly suggested he was dropped on his head as a child.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:13:03 PM
Don't hammer yet! I'm seeing many people saying "Just hammer now" but the post I'm typing up is almost done and D:
SERELA

WE HAVE NO TIME


IGNORE THE LURKER AND HAMMER
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 09:13:10 PM
the urge to cut serela is big. but only because his last 2 posts were full of nothing
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
oh im voting now?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
Also, that was the nice version.

The not nice version had about 500% more expletives and questioned Anthy's parentage, schooling, life choices, and strongly suggested he was dropped on his head as a child.

I don't believe that you wrote any of those things. Really enough with being a prick.

Serela, happy you're here.  Your avatar always makes me feel warn inside.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:14:23 PM
im sure we have at least 20 min.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on March 01, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
for that matter, a mod update of time left would be cool

but yeah p.sure we have roughly 40 minutes left or so
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Vote GreyICE
Vote Affinity
Vote Huhwhat
Vote ShadyK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
oh im voting now?
We have like 30 minutes.  I vote yes.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:16:37 PM
ATTENTION

I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE WORD STUPID SHOULD BE REPLACED BY THE WORD SILLY

MANY POSTERS IN THIS THREAD ARE DEEPLY AND PROFOUNDLY SILLY
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 09:16:55 PM
Vote GreyICE
Vote Affinity
Vote Huhwhat
Vote ShadyK

Is this a scum claim?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
45 minutes to deadline.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
Next time, Trixie should post like Serela. And you'll still find a way to lynch Trixie over everyone else.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:19:24 PM
Is this a scum claim?

Trixie forgot to claim scum on first post to laugh at meta. Trixie will now use this opportunity to do so.
Actually, Trixie just wants to throw down who Trixie thinks should die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, ICE
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - PX
I have no name (1) - Dan
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, Anthy, dr rawr

PX is at L1
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:20:52 PM
Trixie wonders what Hourai was thinking when he came up with this role. If Hourai wanted Trixie to be interested in what Trixie does, having it activate on death is not a way to do it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:21:42 PM
I feel that's reminiscent of what Px did in Vanilla mafia II.  at the end.

Still Px if you had the power to dayvig who would it be and why? 

Px you have to reconize that if you are town, you are not playing to your potential. 

cut by ok I figured
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 01, 2012, 09:21:53 PM
4 scumpicks in a 12 player game, pretty slick set-up speculation 8)

If you're town, you should be explaining why you'd like to lynch them, assuming you want people to listen to you after you die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Serela on March 01, 2012, 09:23:36 PM
ASDLFJKASGJKADFHJGSDFSDFHJDFJSGDFS

okay just hammer

I hit backspace and the textbox wasn't selected so the browser went back and I lost my entire post

just, fuck.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:25:42 PM
Anthy's last post sounds like "I hate everything, and it's all your faults! see ya bye, but don't blame me if this all goes to hell."  Not inspiring. 

Note I still think Ihavenoname is the worst offender.

Weak reads + only cares who will die, not if they are scum.  that's the felling I'm getting from his posts.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:26:02 PM
ASDLFJKASGJKADFHJGSDFSDFHJDFJSGDFS

okay just hammer

I hit backspace and the textbox wasn't selected so the browser went back and I lost my entire post

just, fuck.

what were you gonna say
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 01, 2012, 09:26:39 PM
serela really?

##Vote: PX
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
I don't care if you equivicate in the same sentence.  just out with it
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ICE on March 01, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
I submit that a good first step to avoid lynching is not:

1) Spend your first post on an OMGUS
2) Lurk madly while posting elsewhere on site
3) Post a read list where everyone is null or town, and leave your vote on someone you say is town in that read list
4) Claim something incomprehensible and irritating in a remarkably roundabout manner over several posts
5) Hare off on unrelated tangents while ignoring everything happening in the game
6) Waste your vote (and hence the entire power your average townie has) on a lynch that will never, ever, ever happen on day 1, in a move that looks specifically designed to cast suspicion on townies.

Now why would anyone on earth have a town read on you, Trixie? 

As I see it, your major strategy day 1 has been to post exactly enough to miss prods (which you weren't entirely successful at) and hope the town found something shinier while you contributed nothing of value. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:29:09 PM
Affinity because he went from "GreyICE is scum" to "Oh, let's go with his suggestion, it'll be a free double kill!"
Huh What because GUT! =D
ShadyK was a random pick from everyone else
And Trixie just wants ICE to die
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: PX on March 01, 2012, 09:29:18 PM
4 Cuts Zzzzzzz
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
Hammer shush
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: ActionDan on March 01, 2012, 09:30:31 PM
didn't get a chance to look over shadyk.  who knows maybe affinity bussed him.  The arguments flowed well.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 01, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
ActionDan (0) -
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (7) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, ICE, dr rawr
Dr Rawr (1) -  ShadyK
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (1) - PX
I have no name (1) - Dan
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, Anthy



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The day had come to an end the the members of The Felt convened to see who was most likely an insidious member of the Midnight Crew. Words were thrown, tossed, and acrobatically pirouette'd off the handle. After much careful deliberation and choice words, sides were taken and a majority was reached. Solemnly, they hanged the noose and prepared for the lynch to find out if they had been right in catching their enemy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

They were wrong.
PX, playing Snowman, The Felt ? ? ? was lynched.
...
...
...

dr rawr, playing Matchsticks, The Felt Vanilla Member has died.


It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to send in any night actions.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 02, 2012, 10:00:04 PM
The sun had risen once again on the mansion and the inhabitants wandered out to meet each other to further discuss and try to weed out the Mdnight Crew. Although there had been one missing from their numbers that did not show up. Entering the bedroom, they found the body, killed in his sleep.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ActionDan, playing Cans, The Felt Tankman was killed Night 1.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It is now Day 2.
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) -
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Everyone

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in 72 hours.


Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 02, 2012, 10:39:18 PM
Dear Scumteam:
I hate you. So much. I AM A CREDIBLE CONFIRMED TOWN THREAT GOD DAMNIT. YOU SHOULD BE TREMBLING IN FEAR OF ME.
Signed, Shadoweh,

Fine, we will throw down on Operation: GET MANS.
##Vote: Huh what

You are like the creepiest Doctor Kevorkian and I feel like you spent most of the day in the background cultivating dissent until the blazingly good fortune to get rid of the bomb and an idiot townie presented itself. Explain thineself.

Mr. No name: My trigger finger lynch finger has not forgotten you. You were also not present to explain your behaviour or to offer yourself in an act of forgiveness. Your fear of the bomb seemed too geniune for someone who suposedly believed PX was actually scum.

Anthy: You have said an amazing amount of nothing in your posts. You now have an entire day and ~*~three~*~ flips to peruse. Provide.
Serela: You see this thing above? Yeah. I remember you faking losing your posts before. I don't take excuses. Who's the scum, boy?
(PS ICE, Serela is actually a boy. I know, we don't believe it either.)

Dormio: Dormio. No wait. You were quick to join the easy PX hate and I am suspicious of you! Who do you suspect now?

I WANT OPINIONS AND I WANT THEM EARLY TODAY! A lack of suspects is unacceptable. We have victims and a murder trail to follow.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 02, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
Mr. No name: My trigger finger lynch finger has not forgotten you. You were also not present to explain your behaviour or to offer yourself in an act of forgiveness. Your fear of the bomb seemed too geniune for someone who suposedly believed PX was actually scum.
I was asleep during the thread explosion (actually, from my last post to "Day 1 has ended").  I didn't expect 3 and a half pages of...that.  Also how was I supposed to know there couldn't be a scum-bomb?
Still don't like ICE, ShadyK seems clear, agreeing on huh what being suspicious. (and in the case of masons Shadoweh/ICE, I'm not sold on  Shadoweh being town).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 02, 2012, 11:12:02 PM
I was asleep during the thread explosion (actually, from my last post to "Day 1 has ended").  I didn't expect 3 and a half pages of...that.  Also how was I supposed to know there couldn't be a scum-bomb?
The alignment of the bomb in question actually doesn't matter. Whether red or green they kill the person who hammers them the same. Why do you bring this up in your defense?
Quote
ShadyK seems clear
Why?
Quote
agreeing on huh what being suspicious.
Why?
Quote
Still don't like ICE, ///(and in the case of masons Shadoweh/ICE, I'm not sold on  Shadoweh being town).
Those two statements contradict each other. Also you've never voiced suspicion of me before, but you're willing to follow my own suspicions why?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 02, 2012, 11:17:54 PM
The alignment of the bomb in question actually doesn't matter. Whether red or green they kill the person who hammers them the same. Why do you bring this up in your defense?
Because I honestly thought PX was scum.

Reading through the posts from while I was asleep, ShadyK didn't seem scummy.  Either it's good acting or I was mistaken.

I thought huh what was suspicious after reading through the same posts, you just posted before I did.  If I have nothing to add why bother typing up an essay?

Those two statements contradict each other. Also you've never voiced suspicion of me before, but you're willing to follow my own suspicions why?
Either I'm wrong about ICE and you're both town, there's a scum+town mason group (is that even possible?), or you're both scum.
Also I'm not following your suspicions we just happen to have the same ones.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 02, 2012, 11:27:24 PM
Very well. Those answer s aren't satisfying, but they'll do for now. There's something endearing about how stubborn your beliefs are.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 02, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
You are like the creepiest Doctor Kevorkian and I feel like you spent most of the day in the background cultivating dissent until the blazingly good fortune to get rid of the bomb and an idiot townie presented itself. Explain thineself.
I was busier early on in the day, so that might have been a slight contributor, but I thought I was posting about as much as I usually do after the Anthy vote. I was pushing my opinions when possible so I don't think I was a "background presence", especially not when there were people like Anthy and Serela around who were actually genuinely lurking. Also, Rawr totally did not look like idiot town. <_< Were you reading his posts when you voted him or were you just sheeping Ice and I because why not?

##Vote Serela
Serela is the scummiest alive right now for having no solid stances yesterday except for chipping in to support the budding wagons on PX (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797402.html#msg797402) and Rawr (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798103.html#msg798103) without original contribution of his own or a notable thought process. Say what you will about his meta, but I'm pretty sure he is capable of actually scumhunting instead of just sheeping the wagons started by town leader figures while posting no other content. His actual habits with posting frequency remind me of lurkscum!Furien and lurkscum!K4U from MotK Mafioso (a game featuring play quality comparable to this one's). Lurking D1 is fine if you posting something meaningful when you're around, but Serela looked like he was only posting when he knew he absolutely had to post.

I'm not pleased with Anthy attempting to stay out of conflict throughout the entirety of D1 (especially at deadline), either. His posts were frequent in the middle of the day when the spotlight was on him, but as the deadline approached the most he came up with was this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798406.html#msg798406), which isn't scumhunting so much as specuwaffles. I think his lack of strong stances yesterday originates from scum trying to avoid picking fights, as I said when initially voting him.

Nameless is still town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 02, 2012, 11:43:14 PM
Dormio: Dormio. No wait. You were quick to join the easy PX hate and I am suspicious of you!
Uh, what? Please explain.

Anyway.
##Vote Serela
Sheeping HW etc.

Doing other stuff right now. Will be around later.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 03, 2012, 12:14:43 AM
##Vote: ShadyK

Voting for reasons I mentioned here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798120.html#msg798120); that great lacuna between his dropping his vote on IHNM here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797497.html#msg797497) (terminating his questioning solely due to what ICE said), and his next vote here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798177.html#msg798177), is staggering, and all this after shifting between rawr, Anthy and PX for three posts without coming to a decision.  There's a sense that he's trying to hide and sheep behind the stronger players, and that he was trying to play a safe wait-and-see until the very end.

Am also interested in the other obvious suspects such as Serela and Anthy, but I feel ShadyK has the right enough balance between laying low and being scummy for me to feel him as a top priority for today.  huhwhat I need to reread, though I remember not being happy with him towards the beginning of D1.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 03, 2012, 12:42:27 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Shadoweh
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (2) - huhwhat, Dormio
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (0) -
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, ShadyK, I have no name, Anthy, ICE

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~70 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 01:31:02 AM
Reading through the posts from while I was asleep, ShadyK didn't seem scummy.  Either it's good acting or I was mistaken.
Wait what no.  HOW DO I GO FROM SCUM TO TOWN THAT QUICKLY!?  Ya gotta be more like Affinty keep the pressure comin!

##Vote: ShadyK

Voting for reasons I mentioned here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798120.html#msg798120); that great lacuna between his dropping his vote on IHNM here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797497.html#msg797497) (terminating his questioning solely due to what ICE said), and his next vote here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798177.html#msg798177), is staggering, and all this after shifting between rawr, Anthy and PX for three posts without coming to a decision.  There's a sense that he's trying to hide and sheep behind the stronger players, and that he was trying to play a safe wait-and-see until the very end.

Am also interested in the other obvious suspects such as Serela and Anthy, but I feel ShadyK has the right enough balance between laying low and being scummy for me to feel him as a top priority for today.  huhwhat I need to reread, though I remember not being happy with him towards the beginning of D1.
I love you too Affinity.  In retrospect I shouldnt have been so influenceable on ICE's opinion alone and my indeciveness was also a bad move.  BUT WHAT'S DONE IS DONE. I've got this uncanny feeling that if im not lynched ill be nightkilled so I may have to divulge info later on (oh god im making myself a target why am i doing this).  It'd probably be useful to know though.  As much as I'd love to vote now Im still not sure @_@.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 01:52:20 AM
Oh wait now I know what happened.  Hopefully my theory is correct but I may share bits and pieces later.  Ok but I definitely have my choices narrowed down now.  I dont think huhwhat is a scum cuz the way I see it now Anthy and/or Serela are scum right now.  Im leaning more toward the Serela side mainly due to lack of content in posts. Yeah Im definitely gonna go with Serela on this one.
##Vote: Serela
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 02:03:43 AM
Wait what no.  HOW DO I GO FROM SCUM TO TOWN THAT QUICKLY!?
Don't get me wrong, you're still on the list of possible targets, just less high up.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 02:05:37 AM
Don't get me wrong, you're still on the list of possible targets, just less high up.
=(
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 03, 2012, 02:18:22 AM
Uhm, I'm still writing up my post about how huh what is maybe scum but I don't know he's kind of like Li but maybe not and oh god I don't know.

But I was cut by this incredibly adorable thing that I have to address. If people are voting you and looking at you suspiciously you really don't usually have to be worried about being nightkilled. You have probably pulled something epic facepalm worthy. Here is the list of things it is 'worth it' to claim.

> You are a cop and X is GUILTY
> You are a tracker and you just saw someone target the nightkill (Dan)
> You are a watcher and copy paste from above

If you had something else it probably wasn't worth mentioning at all. >_>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 03, 2012, 02:20:38 AM
Affinity, look at that sad face. How can you seriously vote a newbie that adorable? You still have no soul. :<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 02:23:44 AM
mmm it isnt super facepalm worthy but it isnt super worth it either.  I'd know if it was claimworthy im not that stupid but this is iffy
Affinity, look at that sad face. How can you seriously vote a newbie that adorable? You still have no soul. :<
...adorable.  IM NOT TRYING TO BE ADORABLE HERE AAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 02:33:23 AM
Actually thinking about it some more it aint super useful anyways so forget I said anything >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 03, 2012, 06:08:25 AM
##Vote: Anthy
##Unvote
##Vote: Nameless
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 03, 2012, 06:17:29 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) - Shadoweh
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, ShadyK
ShadyK (1) - Affinity
I have no name (1) - ICE
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, I have no name, Anthy,

Serela is at L2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~64 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 03, 2012, 06:35:46 AM
*_* I will refrain from posting merely to talk about how I want to keep you and go back to looking at huh what. I supose it is true your presence increased near the close of the day, huh what, but I'm not sure if that's as important since by then the day was cut and dry.
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Also, Rawr totally did not look like idiot town. <_< Were you reading his posts when you voted him or were you just sheeping Ice and I because why not?
A little bit of both. I think you'll find the amount of reading what Rawr was saying correlated with my reluctance to vote him and wishes for someone else to do the suicide hammering. You're allowed to disparage people when they're alive, but when they actually flip idiot town..
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Say what you will about his meta, but I'm pretty sure he is capable of actually scumhunting instead of just sheeping the wagons started by town leader figures while posting no other content. His actual habits with posting frequency remind me of lurkscum!Furien and lurkscum!K4U from MotK Mafioso (a game featuring play quality comparable to this one's). Lurking D1 is fine if you posting something meaningful when you're around, but Serela looked like he was only posting when he knew he absolutely had to post.
Are you saying there was something wrong with Kitten4u @_@ What would you say about his meta, huh what? I think incompetence to the point of utter confusion is more of a scumtell to him, a Serela that is scum kind of knows what he's doing because he has all the information. I have noted a few things I would consider questionable but I'd rather see what you think of them directly.

Your comments about Anthy are also agreeable for now. Currently I have a bias on looking at him because of this distrust I feel from you though. Do you have a third suspect?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 03, 2012, 07:59:27 AM
Serela's town meta is less incompetence to the point of utter confusion and more him trying to scumhunt then having trouble explaining putting his thoughts into words. Serela in this game has no thoughts aside from encouraging those already stated by other people. There's no effort put into scumhunting from him, if you read his posts. town!Serela tries harder than this. This is just lurkscum.

No, I don't have a third suspect right now. You and ICE are still town, I'm not willing to dive into conspiracy theory bullshit. Nameless is a strong town read. ShadyK and Affinity haven't done anything that sticks out as scummy - ShadyK bugged me on get earlier in D1 but I thought he improved afterwards. Might re-read him an extra time to humor Affinity, but I don't expect any revelations. Uh, I guess I could be convinced to dislike Dormio for looking like he's been only half-playing, but his demotivation doesn't strike me as scummy demotivation. Obviously at least one these people is probably non-town assuming we have three scum, but I'd rather just focus on lynching my main suspects first then figure out the buddies once they flip. Being suspicious of half the game at once is kind of a waste.

From what I gather you're attacking me because I had less time to post earlier in the day and was also wrong. vOv The only defense I can offer is "I had less time to post earlier in the day, and was also wrong."
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 03, 2012, 08:47:03 AM
I re-read, again.

As far as I'm concerned, trying to lurk out the bomb situation should be scummier than being the most active at that point in the day, since it was a critical juncture in deciding how the lynch was going to play out and I don't imagine scum would want to be associated in pushing for the death of two townies unless they thought they could get away with it. This is another reason that I hate the activity of Serela and Anthy.

For clarity, opinions on EVERYONE! instead of just the people I suspect.
1. huh what
Me!

2. Dormio
Unmemorable is the best way to describe him. I want to hear something from him today that doesn't involve sheeping me. Curious what happened to his Nameless suspicion even though I never bought it. Looks more like demotivated neutral to me than scum, though.

6. Serela
Scum. His content is basically "early sheeping of obvtowns with nothing else of note" -> "I'm still here! with nothing of note" -> return at deadline which ends in nothing of note. He's not even trying to produce or scumhunt. I don't mean "it's Serela so his scumhunting is silly", I mean "Serela is lurking and not even trying to scumhunt Serela-style."

7. ShadyK
The "i'm not sure who i want to vote between px and rawr so i'll wait until px posts.........." looks more null to me because people (particularly inexperienced players) do that shit all the time on another site I frequent regardless of alignment. D1 posts look kinda slimy, though, which irritated me early on in the day. The softclaim looks town, though, not sure why newbscum would offer that up at this point unless he expected to be lynched, which is unlikely in this case, since only Affinity has been consistently pressuring him). So... probably Town, I guess.

8. I have no name
Town based on reactions to posts. The one where he called me out for interpreting his attitude as town instead of just being content that a townie thought he was town is a good example of this. Would not lynch.

9. Shadoweh
Town mason. I think it's silly that she's currently attacking half the entire playerlist. If there were five scum we would have already lost. Also, attacks on my activity are grounded on stuff that was beyond my control, so :irritation:.

10. Affinity
What happened to his early attacks on Serela and I? I recall him using Serela looking scummy as a venue to attack me, but this was later forgotten entirely as the day went on. Looks like SUBLIMINAL BUSSING 8). If we want to play Guess The Scumteams like Shadoweh seems to be encouraging me to do then he'd be the third for lack of anyone better. Affinity, do you have any strong opinions on Serela at the moment beyond "his lynch looks okay"?

Rest of content has seemed solid to me, though. On D1 I was leaning Town on him, but right now the Serela discrepancy could use some looking into.

11. Anthy
Scummy. He took no particularly strong or daring stances during D1 and lurked through the tension late in the day without providing any notable comments that would affect the lynch. See what I said about activity during the bomb situation either, scum would avoid ties to the double town flips if possible and Anthy did this while not giving any clear suspicions or alternatives either.

12. ICE
Town mason. Would like him to explain the Nameless vote since I seem to recall him claiming Nameless was town D1, and I'm not buying anything on Nameless at the moment.

There. I hate writing huge :everyone: posts but hopefully my opinions are clearer now?
I think that trying to focus on the entire playerlist at once is a bad idea because everybody is going to be scummy to an extent. I'd rather just push for the ones who actually look like scum to me, hence why my opener only really talks about Serela and Anthy.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 03, 2012, 09:12:46 AM
I forgot that I was playing this game. Whatever. Anyway.
##FoS Shadoweh

First of all, there's that D1 mason claim which is all kinds of weird.
I don't like the fact that she felt the need to attempt to redirect everyone's attention fairly early on in the day, claiming that she could see a 1v1 between GreyICE and PX and that PX would win purely due to not lynching lurkers D1.
I mean, it's like, why do you feel the need to distract everyone and try your best to disturb their lines of thought?
There's also her attitude. Despite the fact that she had participated in basically no scumhunting up to this point, she feels that she has the authority to make a post like #175. If you want people to get off your partner, why do you not give people a reason to get off him?
All you do is yell loudly, going "OMG GreyICE is so town why are you voting him?!?!?!?!?!". I fail to see how this epitomizes townie behaviour.
You yourself have done a fair amount of flip-flopping in regards to whether or not you want PX lynched, you know.
I mean in #94, you vote him over anyone else. And then you have #150 where you say you have a null read on him, despite keeping your vote on him. Then you state your desire to see PX dead in #201. Okay. But then, this is followed up by "Let's vote Rawr and forget about wanting PX lynched." in #222 after his claim. You specifically state in #337 that you do not wish to see PX lynched and votes I have no name out of the blue. Even after having called I have no name townie on several occasions beforehand.
And then she calls for Rawr to hammer bomb!PX after having said that she didn't want this to happen in #353.
I also don't like her buddying up to ShadyK.
And then we get to D2, where Shadoweh has a newfound hatred for HW that I can't quite understand. Please explain?
You also claim that I was quick to join the easy PX hate, but I have no clue where that would put yourself in regards to PX.

Which brings me to GreyICE. What's the point of only analysing one half of the self proclaimed masons.
There's the thing where he pretty much refused to answer questions directed towards himself.
I basically have issues with the way he goes about doing things, but find him to be better than Shadoweh and stuff. Whatever.

ANYWAY. TO EXPAND ON SERELA-ANTI STUFF THING YOU KNOW. Because conspiracy theory land isn't a good place to stick around in for too long.
#119: The hell is this post, anyway? You make the rant about GreyICE, but don't do anything with it. What point was there to that rant? All it did was add fluff to your post.
You state that it's impossible for you to read the newer players. Why? What prevents you from reading them? You managed to say stuff about GreyICE, at the very least.
You then state what is, effectively, a null read on every other player in the game before voting for PX for not having much content.
And then you unvote, for the rest of the day. You come back, stalling the game saying that you have a post. However, later you claim to have lost the post and tell Rawr to hammer.
Why couldn't you have provided an outline of the post, at the very least?

Still dislike I have no name.
As I've said earlier, I don't feel that he's been scumhunting during the earlier parts of D1. And the rest of D1. And D2 so far.
The not wanting to hammer the bomb when the people who were on at the time seemed to think that Rawr hammering PX was a better idea was a thing too.
Not to mention how he seems to instantly believe that PX is a bomb after a claim from ActionDan, whilst he expresses suspicion of Shadoweh and GreyICE's mason claim (#190, #428).
And stuff.
##Unvote
##Vote I have no name
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 03, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
Okay okay god let me sleep first.
When I have so many unsure reads my only recourse is to continuously attack all the confusing spots until they turn themselves bright and seeable. Bounce off the walls until you can feel what's around you and all.

Dormio: I have all the authority. All of it. And PX was winning you derp, if you look at the votecount ICE was ahead at five votes.
I can't believe you're asking why I wanted people to not lynch the person I've been sending love taps in private.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 03, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
If you want people to get off your partner, why do you not give people a reason to get off him?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 03, 2012, 02:23:23 PM
@huhwhat: I never did go into Serela much more than accusing him of active lurking, lumping all the newbies together, and thinking him a viable lynch target yesterday.   I just thought that your premises for going after Anthy could have easily applied to any one on the PX wagon yesterday before the entire situation changed with the mason claim.

Out of all the people left in the game worth suspecting (as in, excluding Shadoweh and GreyICE), quite a number of them have iffy late D1s.  As a summary, ShadyK has that wait-and-see thing without a vote, Serela has nothing to his name and has more or less done nothing other than fulfill his meta  Anthy had strong reasons for going after ICE until that mason claim left him with absolutely no opinions into late D1-D2, and IHNM has an impossibly large pool of suspects with no clear hierarchy within them.  Both of them are for some reason are still obsessed with the ICE thing and have not answered the question (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798239.html#msg798239) I posed to them.  Dormio disappears towards the end of the day and mostly shows up to make a WoT on reasons to lynch PX which we had all accepted a long time ago, and does one again today on Shadoweh (?), ICE (?), Serela and IHNM.  Only huhwhat out of these players has switched to rawr for reasons which felt logical and right to me. I'm not sure what to think of this.  From what it seems, the day can move only if Serela and Anthy come in to clarify their stances and post.

In any case, I don't think my vote/pressure on ShadyK is going anywhere, since he just admitted his mistake and voted for a safe but reasonable wagon, which is a fair, if uninteresting response.  What do you feel about IHNM now, ShadyK, given that you 'regretted following ICE's lead in labelling him town'? 

##Unvote
##Vote: I have no name

@IHNM: On reread, I'm not happy with the way you have pretty much admitted to 'suspecting' almost every viable vote target from post-RVS to now (PX, rawr, GreyICE, Shadoweh, huhwhat, ShadyK, etc.), without much justification, meaning that you could pretty much leave his vote anywhere with the excuse that 'you suspected them'.  Thus, there does not seem to be a clear sense of priority in your votes and hunches as to who is scummier than the other.  What made huhwhat scummier than GreyICE in your decision to vote for him today, since you wanted him lynched yesterday?  I get the impression that you are just heaving weight on wagons.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 03, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
Well that literally blew up in our faces . < .

I mean literally, you admit to spending the entirity of day 1 power role hunting?  And you're proud of this fact?

If you're town, you are the most amazingly useless townie ever created.  You should be shot, killed, hung, and eviscerated.  In a village full of idiots you'd STILL stand out as the town VI.

Can someone PLEASE tell me this man has a non-single digit IQ so I can lynch him like the enormous scumbag he looks like?

To take you seriously, no I'm not proud of it, but then I've learned that pussyfooting around is something that makes one look scummy.  Second, you need to chiiiiillllll. It's just a game.  I'm gonna be keeping off of you for now since you're townie by relation of shadoweh and the fact is that your townieness is permeating the air like someone who's wearing way too much fucking bug repellent.

My absence of late D1 was mostly due to the real world of real life interfering with my ability to vote, it isn't the best idea to whip out one's cellphone when mopping up a floor that hasn't been cleaned in years, especially when your employer and parental unit have their eyes on you.

Serela: Not feeling good about at all.  Lack of opinions and the 'lost' post at the end does not bode well for thee; which is the popular opinion of now.  Honestly what I think? He may be suffering from the forces that be the way the posts work here, potentially in combination with a rough week.  He's still leaning on the scum side of the fence personally but I'm not going to jump on it yet.

I have no name: Still feels of the newness of neutralness, most of day one was pretty much the beginner's roll of actions, trying to figure out what to do and where to put one's vote and how to back it up.  The paranoia induced by ICE's outburst of 'hey I has a sekrit' can mess with someone new (same here, this is my 2nd full game, 1st I got lynched day one cause of crappy defense after being the 3rd person on a bandwagon early D1).  Currently on the end of the line where it starts turning town.

huhwhat: After reading through stuff, I'm kinda getting the 'puppet master' vibe going about here, but throughout the later half of D1 he was erring on the side of just straight lynching rawr over the combo lynch and death.  My last blurt for D1 was a mix of arms in the air and feeling bullshit mostly because with the time I had to read and post, I know the tides of town were already demanding double blood.  I feel better about huhwhat to be honest, even tied for the mason duo of shadoweh and ICE, but then ranking this on a line is like trying to balance a person on a pin.

Affinity: Played decent to solid town with a few minor time gaps, the persual of shadyK is possibly a blemish but then shadyK doesn't have much to show more or less.  Joining the PX bus doesn't show much as it was the majority town idea at the time.

ShadyK: Feels like noname in the fact of newbieness but more wishwashy, I feel noname actually has more effort in what he's done but misguided while ShadyK is trying to not have as much responsibility in his actions.

My head is kinda racked with pain at the moment but if I were to give a list of scummiest in opinion to towniest or so it'd be...

Serela(scummy), ShadyK(somewhat scummy), I have no name(neutral new feel), Affinity(wavering but still solid townie feel), ICE&Shadoweh(Town but gut is still iffy), huhwhat(town)


beearrbee gonna get some aspirin~<3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 06:52:10 PM
Anthy, IHNM, why is the mason claim totally passing over your head?  What about this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797933.html#msg797933) explanation that scum has no reason to fakeclaim as masons on D1 do you not agree with?
Because I didn't realize exactly what that meant at the time.  That is why the claim 'went over my head' as you put it.

You want a priority list?  Here's one.
ICE
huh what
Affinity
ShadyK
Anthy
Affinity
Dormio
Shadoweh
Serela
myself (obviously least scummy of everyone)

##Vote: huh what
ICE's link to Shadoweh is the only reason my vote isn't on him right now >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 03, 2012, 08:16:12 PM
Poor anthy

Let me help remove that pain in your head.

##vote anthy

You're still babbling about what looks scummy versus what scum are actually likely to do.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 03, 2012, 09:05:32 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (2) - Shadoweh, I have no name
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (2) - huhwhat, ShadyK
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (2) - Dormio, Affinity
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Serela, Anthy,


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~49 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 03, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
*Reads NoName's latest post*

You know, giving a list of who is an isn't scummy... doesn't excuse you from having to give at LEAST a little tidbit -why-. There's been a whooole lot of stuff that's happened since the last post you did any of that which... was at least like before post 150. (We're on 454 now)

I mean, I know you're new, but we can't let you just coast by with THAT little of a contribution. I know, pot calling the kettle black, etc, things haven't exactly been working out for me so far ;_; But I'm working on fixing that! *Cough* Anyway. You were at least somewhat trying earlier. I'm seeing where all the votes on you are coming from, now, because... you've been coasting by without giving us the slightest idea of what your thoughts and motives are for a really long time now! (That is A Really Bad Thing(tm), by the way)

##Vote Ihavenoname
##unvote because I'm still rereading everyone else, that post just sort of jumped out at me and I went "oh"

Even if you can't make a beautiful case of why someone is scummy, you should at least be able to give SOME sort of explanation as to what about them you see is bad.

speaking of thoughts and motives, mine! I totally have them, despite what D1 shows. Curse you backspace key, eating my lovely post last time. K, so. I actually think Anthy looks pretty down, despite what everyone else says. ShadyK's "WAIT I HAVE SOMETHING" "WAIT MAYBE I DON'T" "OH NEVERMIND" seems like genuine townie confusion. HW is scary Town And Scum Read At Same time as always (will I ever learn ;_;) and I'm going to move on instead of tiring my attention span by struggling to read him more today unless he becomes a serious lynch possibility. Oh wait he has two votes on him maybe he is BAH I'LL DEAL WITH IT LATER OKAY SO, wait who's left. Affinity! Masons don't count.

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What made huhwhat scummier than GreyICE in your decision to vote for him today, since you wanted him lynched yesterday?  I get the impression that you are just heaving weight on wagons.
Not sure why Affinity particularly felt like asking this question to NoName in his latest post. The answer seems sort of obvious. Iunno, this just feels slightly off to me. Other then that, I don't really have any problem with Affinity. Not really a read either way.

*Frown* Maybe I should look more into mister town-and-scum-read at the same time, because almost everyone else is a town read for me already. But yeah, IHNName is definitely the worst out of everyone right now IMO.

##Vote Ihavenoname
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 03, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
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I actually think Anthy looks pretty down
No I'm not trying to be "hip" and "cool", I just typoed the word town ;_;
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 03, 2012, 09:22:39 PM
To elaborate on what I felt was "slightly off" about Affinity's question is, well

I suppose what I'm getting at is that it seems like something that really doesn't need to be said. IMO, putting little unimportant things onto a case just...

Well, it's like fluff, except it's padding out your case instead of padding out your post. It sort of makes it look better if the person reading it doesn't think about it too hard, but in reality it's pointless.

I'm still working on this "explaining why stuff FEELS wrong to me" thing >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 09:23:46 PM
I can't think straight and I don't want to be questioned right now.  I've been drained since I got questioned by police for a half hour yesterday between finals (they're investigating what happened to my roommate who ended up in the hospital).
I'll see if I can get some reasons together by the end of the day.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 09:50:43 PM
I also don't like her buddying up to ShadyK.
Wait you didn't like dan hating on me and now you dont like Shadoweh buddying up to me.  HOW DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TREATING ME!? /irrevelvancy  Dormio what do you think of me right now anyways?  Majority think Im slightly scummy-town at this point and I dont remember you giving an opinion on me.

In any case, I don't think my vote/pressure on ShadyK is going anywhere, since he just admitted his mistake and voted for a safe but reasonable wagon, which is a fair, if uninteresting response.  What do you feel about IHNM now, ShadyK, given that you 'regretted following ICE's lead in labelling him town'?
Hmmm ya know looking back he was awful paranoid once he heard about that bomb even though he wasn't gonna be the one to trigger it at all.  It's like he wanted to threat gone so it didnt accidentally blow up in a nk.  But if looking at his priority list...if ICE labeled him as town why would noname have him as top scum priority.  Also if ICE's link to shadoweh makes him scummy why is he so high while shadoweh is so low.  The two have been working together for the most part. 

Because I didn't realize exactly what that meant at the time.  That is why the claim 'went over my head' as you put it.

You want a priority list?  Here's one.
ICE
huh what
Affinity
ShadyK
Anthy
Affinity
Dormio
Shadoweh
Serela
myself (obviously least scummy of everyone)
HOLD UP.  First of all what exactly made me drop so low.  As of now everyone has called me wishy washy and other kind things so what specifically made me drop so low?  Also how come to your top two scum reads are people who claim you to be town.  You'd best give a good answer.

ShadyK: Feels like noname in the fact of newbieness but more wishwashy, I feel noname actually has more effort in what he's done but misguided while ShadyK is trying to not have as much responsibility in his actions.
I could argue against this but :effort:.  On a serious note a lot of nonames d1 posts were kinda contentless if I remember.  Sure I kinda stopped trying late d1 but say what you all will I was legit confused at that time.  @_@
##Unvote
##Vote:NoName
I shouldve just stuck with my original opinion >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
You dropped to 4th from 2nd because huh what jumped up from 3rd to 2nd and you seemed less so than Affinity.
and yeah at this point I'm not even going to try, I can't out-think you guys in the best of times, after all the questions (bordering on interrogation), I definitely can't.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 10:06:27 PM
Edited then unedited because I forgot double-posting was fine here.

(also unless you want a short D2 someone unvote because I'm at L-1)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 03, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
Wait you didn't like dan hating on me and now you dont like Shadoweh buddying up to me.  HOW DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TREATING ME!?
Those are two completely different and unrelated things. I fail to see how they're connected. I don't care how people treat you.

/irrevelvancy  Dormio what do you think of me right now anyways?  Majority think Im slightly scummy-town at this point and I dont remember you giving an opinion on me.
You're on my ignore list, which means that I think that you're more likely to be town than not.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 03, 2012, 10:14:30 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (2) - Shadoweh, I have no name
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (1) - huhwhat,
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (4) - Dormio, Affinity, Serela, ShadyK
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy,

I have no name is at L1


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~48 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 10:36:53 PM
Those are two completely different and unrelated things. I fail to see how they're connected. I don't care how people treat you.
Fair enough they arent really connected looking back but it's an irrevelant point anyway moreso of a joke (kinda a bad one too)  but whatever forget I said anything >_>.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 03, 2012, 11:20:00 PM
On a serious note is there any real reason not to lynch noname at this point? 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 11:24:56 PM
On a serious note is there any real reason not to lynch noname at this point?
Because, to put it simply, none of you know what I've been through the past couple of days IRL.  You know when I entered 'no opinion' mode?  That's when I started getting questioned by police.  and I was getting the feeling I was a suspect in my roommate's injury.

Also I'm not scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 03, 2012, 11:38:03 PM
Yesterday finals ended, and I was questioned as much as I'd been over the few days before that day alone, and they had me repeat the same things repeatedly (the timeline of events that night 6 whole times), and when I gave a different answer than I'd given before they jumped on it and accused me of withholding information because I found out something else between 'questionings'.
The stress of everything that had been going on finally caught up, and to go from real-world questionings to internet ones...I know it's a mock thing but it feels the same way and I don't like it right now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 03, 2012, 11:43:11 PM
On a serious note is there any real reason not to lynch noname at this point?
Because certain people haven't really contributed much today, and I'd like :words: out of them.
Speaking of which, in case someone feels like coming back suddenly and switching to IHNN.
##Unvote
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 03, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
Also, as mentioned yesterday, the AtE hurts me.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 03, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
Hey relax there little guy. I still like you even if I suspect you. Don't freak out because you're having a hard time IRL, we still have to question you like a regular member of the game. This is a game, too. Throw yourself into it a little. If you believe someone is scummy, read them up, show us where they were scummy, prove your townie heart to us. If you're going to be lynched might as well get it all out right?

Mainly for my curiousity, I wondet why Serela is so townie and Affinity is so scummy to you.

Slim ShadyK what did Serela do to convince you you're voting in the wrong spot? I don't see any mention of him in your post.

I get the gist of what Dormio is accusing me of now. I didn't understand the accusations against ICE in the first place, from my perspective they were baseless. I probably jumped the gun a little but I didn't think of a better way. >_>

##Unvote

I'll be right back after I take the charred remains of dinner off the stove
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 12:00:04 AM
Dinner is almost saved! \^_^/

Before I forget. Mr. No name, please tell us your name and role, since you've managed to become an L-1 wagon in 24 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 12:02:50 AM
Also, as mentioned yesterday, the AtE hurts me.
AtE?

One final thing on why my attitude changed, going from being suspected of something I'm innocent of IRL to being suspected of something I'm innocent of has made my brain kind of shut down.

If you believe someone is scummy, read them up, show us where they were scummy, prove your townie heart to us. If you're going to be lynched might as well get it all out right?

Mainly for my curiousity, I wondet why Serela is so townie and Affinity is so scummy to you.
It's a bunch of little things through all their posts, and the tone/feel behind them.

ALSO I'M TOWN all you need to do is have the cop check that (and no, I'm not the scum role that returns positive on cop checks).


<off-topic>
This game isn't as fun as I thought it'd be but that might be external circumstances.  I'll try again in a few months I guess.

Before I forget. Mr. No name, please tell us your name and role, since you've managed to become an L-1 wagon in 24 hours.
Doce, Felt member.  No special abilities.
I'm not sure quite how I managed to reach that level of suspicion that quickly either, especially from being 'newbtown'
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 04, 2012, 12:05:42 AM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) -  I have no name
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (1) - huhwhat,
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (3) -  Affinity, Serela, ShadyK
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, Dormio, Shadoweh

I have no name is at L2


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~46 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 04, 2012, 12:12:45 AM
It's nothing Serela did cuz looking back at previous posts noname seems like a better candidate at this point.  If I werent voting noname Id go with Serela do to that d1 lurking and the kinda contentless posts as well.  But other than that I dont really got any other reasons.  Noname I aint trying to make your life tougher or anything just relax and speak what feels right, just find something and go with it.
Fake edit:
AtE?

One final thing on why my attitude changed, going from being suspected of something I'm innocent of IRL to being suspected of something I'm innocent of has made my brain kind of shut down.
It's a bunch of little things through all their posts, and the tone/feel behind them.

ALSO I'M TOWN all you need to do is have the cop check that (and no, I'm not the scum role that returns positive on cop checks).


<off-topic>
This game isn't as fun as I thought it'd be but that might be external circumstances.  I'll try again in a few months I guess.
Yeah but a cop aint gonna like report if they found a townie cuz that would make them a scum target. 
OT: I understand your feelings as well about this game.  Doesnt suit my tastes either but hey it takes a certain kinda person to like this type of thing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 12:55:20 AM
I'm not taking any of what's going on here personally, I'm just making it clear that I was (and still am) stressed out about stuff unrelated to the game.

That said, I just re-read the thread with a different state of mind, and right now (if not giving opinions is scummy, which is the impression I got from Shadoweh), PX seemed like the right choice D1 (shame we were mistaken about that).  rawr seemed about 3rd then, so getting rid of 2 town hurt our chances but we also got rid of 2 suspects.
Most of why I didn't like ICE, in hindsight, boiled down to playstyle difference and noobhunting (which I took some offense to, being a noob myself, and this clouded my judgement).
huh what has been unmemorable.  I think if I drew scum I'd try to give input but be unmemorable-and given how quickly I became a wagon today, I'd be failing horribly in that regard.  (Since I drew town I've been trying [and obviously failing] to be helpful)
Shadoweh has been defending ICE and not voting me (seriously, if she was scum she could have easily quicklynched me, but didn't).  Seeing as in hindsight, I was probably wrong about ICE, Shadoweh seems more town and thus trustworthy.
Serela has had ~ a half dozen posts total IIRC over 100+ hours.  That's marginally more than avoiding a prod, and very little information was given in them.
ShadyK...I sense indecision.  flip-flopping, memorable, unreadable.
Dormio has been lurking but giving input/IRL reasons.  On the fence.
Anthy is unmemorable.
Affinity...should not have been that high on my list.  That was me taking a vote way too personally.  Mostly unmemorable.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 12:57:13 AM
What made huhwhat scummier than GreyICE in your decision to vote for him today, since you wanted him lynched yesterday?
Simple: assuming 2 scum, those 2 were my top pick for scum team.  Since no one would vote ICE, I voted huh what to try to chip away at the scum.
If there are 3 Serela is probably 3rd right now, if ICE is town then idk who else.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
This Nameless wagon looks... bad. Like, worse than the PX wagon in terms of speed and opportunism, and I'm pretty sure some people were wary about that. I seriously doubt he's flipping scum at this point. It seems like just about everybody, regardless of what other stances they're interested, is willing to focus on him. Given that he's a town read, I doubt the case is that he's being bussed heavily. Really, Serela is pretty similiarly easy to attack... and yet nobody is conglomerating on his wagon, just Nameless'. HMM.

Speaking of which, Serela makes me want to shoot him even more for attacking Nameless for posting a list of reads without explanation, then going on... to post a bunch of reads without explanation, except on ShadyK. One day I will roll dayvig and justice will be sweet. Or, I guess I did, but Serela was obvtown that game. SIGH. Still, Serela, care to

Anthy: You apparently have a lot of opinions but aren't voting anybody. Words are meaningless if you can't commit to a vote. Still looks like you don't want to pick fights.

Affinity: It looks weird that you dropped ShadyK so fast because you thought your pressure wasn't going anywhere. It wasn't particularly late in the day, so you still had time to convince people of your read. What about his posts today made him read townier to you? I'm not seeing any changes in his behavior.

I wish I had more to say. I'm current sick and it's making me absolutely cranky and exhausted, which makes it harder to play mafia. I can't really defend myself against accusations of being "unmemorable" because I'm not seeing the game through other people's eyes and am incapable of controlling whether I'm "memorable" or not. The best defense I can muster is the shitty meta WIFOM of how as scum I prefer to have an active townie presence to being unmemorable (see: Iffrita and Li, though Li was more behind the scenes), because there's no other real way to defend against attacks like that since memorability is relative.

ShadyK makes me sad for implying we're all terrible people. :ohdear:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 01:05:23 AM
Still, Serela, care to
...tell us why Anthy's town?

I do some weird ADHD shit where I go back and forth and write multiple paragraphs at the same time and this is what happens when I'm too tired to proofread my post.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 01:07:02 AM
Mmm...
The AtE hurts me too much right now.
##Vote Serela
In addition to what I said about Serela's D1 in #447, his voting behaviour today looks highly opportunistic to me.
For example, his current vote on IHNN. Where did that even come from? What changed you from reading his behaviour as "newb!null" (#119) to "Scum active-lurking" (#455)?
I mean, you never mentioned him at all outside of these two posts.
In addition to this, he had what can be summed up as no vote at all during D1.

Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
go away hw why are you saying what im saying but with more words
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 01:08:18 AM
No stooop it we want you both to stay ;_;

Shady, be honest, is he looking like a better candidate because more people are voting for him then Serela?

X3 Okay I'm back to thinking nameless is adorable. AtE is Attack the Emotions, the accusation that you're trying to get people off of you with guilt instead of doing something townie. We can't just have the cop check you, we don't know if we HAVE a cop. They would have already checked someone last night. And if we let you live to check you tonight, that means they won't get to check someone else suspicious. And we can't take you at your word that you're not the scum that looks like town dear, if you were scum you would lie to us about that!

Besides, what good would it be for you to have stayed because you wanted to learn more if you don't put some oomph into it?

Suspicions change quick, especially with three deaths in a night. Help us understand you. Show me some of these 'little things' that you see in their posts. That's what the quote button is for. Tell us what that tone is, and why it makes you suspect them.

Lemme check something:

ShadyK: Builder Bob Town
I have no name: Clueless Town
huh what: Possibly not Kevorkian
Dormio: Dormio
Shadoweh: I'm Shadoweh! \^_^/

Can someone tell me why Affinity isn't scum by Process of Elimination? We're running out of people who can be suspects here and he's chugging along on the mislynch mobile. Oh well let's lynch Serela. Where is the line that makes my teeth hurt..

Uhm actually I'm going to post since I seem to have been cut 8 times.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 01:10:31 AM
AtE is Attack the Emotions, the accusation that you're trying to get people off of you with guilt instead of doing something townie.
I always knew it as "Appeal to Emotion". Regardless, the definition is the same.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 01:18:36 AM
Attack, Appeal, same thing, don't correct me Dormio. >_>

##Vote: Sereley


I mean, I know you're new, but we can't let you just coast by with THAT little of a contribution. I know, pot calling the kettle black, etc, things haven't exactly been working out for me so far ;_; But I'm working on fixing that! *Cough* Anyway. You were at least somewhat trying earlier. I'm seeing where all the votes on you are coming from, now, because... you've been coasting by without giving us the slightest idea of what your thoughts and motives are for a really long time now! (That is A Really Bad Thing(tm), by the way)
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss aaaaaaaaaaaa

Especially that first line, we hates it we do. What do you mean we 'can't let them coast by' like that? You sound like you're chiding a misbehaving townie, but this is your argument for why you're voting him!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 04, 2012, 01:21:00 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (1) -  I have no name
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (3) -  Affinity, Serela, ShadyK
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy

I have no name is at L2
Serela is at L2


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~45 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 01:23:10 AM
I admit that I am not sure about Anthy after the reads post. I mean that I'm not sure if he's scummy or not. One last thing before Kitten claws me for neglecting her to write this.

We need one of our suspects to be giving the hammer votes at all times. Remember what Dan said about scum bombmaker? We can't just forget something like that was a thing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 01:24:13 AM
woo misrepping
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Speaking of which, Serela makes me want to shoot him even more for attacking Nameless for posting a list of reads without explanation, then going on... to post a bunch of reads without explanation,
difference! I had a scum read and explained why. Most of the time town reads aren't explained much anyway. And I sort of did something with Affinity I guess.

##Vote Serela
In addition to what I said about Serela's D1 in #447, his voting behaviour today looks highly opportunistic to me.
For example, his current vote on IHNN. Where did that even come from? What changed you from reading his behaviour as "newb!null" (#119) to "Scum active-lurking" (#455)?
I mean, you never mentioned him at all outside of these two posts.
In addition to this, he had what can be summed up as no vote at all during D1.
Dormio, can you read what you're saying?
>What changed you from reading him as null between ED1 and Mid-D2
GEE
LETS SEE HERE
HOW MUCH HAPPENED SINCE THEN
For one thing, he actually sort of did stuff until around #150, as I said. After that he started coasting along without doing a thing for the next 300 posts of the game.
As for not mentioning him at all outside of those posts, that's sort of a moot point, considering I basically haven't posted between those two posts (Which isn't good either, but is different.). I had one post I made while I was super tired and the game was being really confusing and I just sort of vomited some words and then gave up and went to bed, I guess.

tl;dr Dormio's case is weird because he attacks me for reasons that are weird instead of totally legitimate reasons that do exist and are exploitable.

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Can someone tell me why Affinity isn't scum by Process of Elimination? We're running out of people who can be suspects here and he's chugging along on the mislynch mobile.
Well... I only have three people that aren't town reads, I suppose, and he said at least one weird thing, but I'm not really sure I'd want to throw out a mostly null read as my decision to lynch for the day. It seems sort of early on to start using Process of Elimination to lynch someone instead of, say, actual reasons. Unless everyone else is really town I guess, but.

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Especially that first line, we hates it we do. What do you mean we 'can't let them coast by' like that? You sound like you're chiding a misbehaving townie, but this is your argument for why you're voting him!
Uwaa that's just how I talk ;_; And he's so helpless looking ;_;
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 01:25:53 AM
Your only scum read still revolves around something you yourself would be doing if it were not for that scum read.

Still want to know why Anthy is town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 01:29:05 AM
Your only scum read still revolves around something you yourself would be doing if it were not for that scum read.

Still want to know why Anthy is town.
I just think his 451 is p.good. He shows good thought processes on lots of people and is telling us what he thinks and why he thinks it and it makes sense and all that jazz. And then there's his earlier posts that I don't really remember anymore.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 01:32:41 AM
Well, his behaviour has remained roughly the same throughout the entire game.
In addition, you did never mention him at all until after Affinity and I were voting him.
You lambaste him for not doing anything, but how does this apply only to him and not to you?
Hypocrisy is scummy, yo.

Also, when you call my case weird, are you calling the entire thing weird, or only certain parts. Could you highlight which parts if it's the latter?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 01:38:40 AM
You lambaste him for not doing anything, but how does this apply only to him and not to you?
I'm doing things -now- at least. It's like... I'm not not doing anything anymore, via attacking someone else for not doing anything! It sort of defeats itself. But I digress. It's vaguely confusing to explain.

Dormio, what you're saying is still weird when you look at it. Are you expecting me to give him a free pass for not doing anything simply because I was nonexistent d1? That would be dumb.

>In addition to this, he had what can be summed up as no vote at all during D1.
This part of your case is valid I suppose.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 01:39:13 AM
>In addition, you did never mention him at all until after Affinity and I were voting him.
This would be more valid if I had made any posts before then.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 01:52:03 AM
I come back from dinner and see things have changed a bit.

and if you want one of your suspects to drop the hammer, I seem to be one of the big ones, so if you want me to hammer Serela, then fine.

Ah, I wasn't trying to attack or appeal to emotions, I was just fed up with IRL stuff and letting the stress roll over to this.  I'm thinking more clearly now though.

The cop idea was stupid and I knew it as soon as I hit the post button.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 04:16:32 AM
Ok, just read through the logs of an old mafia game (Generic F11 I believe it was), and Serela is acting a lot like the scum from that game...
##Unvote
##Vote: Serela

*checks votecount
Right, that would be L-1.
##Unvote

I'll be away from whenever I leave until about 3 (16 hours from when I post).  If people still want Serela lynched then then I'll take the hammer (assuming scum bombmaker, which I doubt knowing the Homestuck canon as well as I do, Snowman made sense as a bomb role-wise)

honestly everyone else is probably pretty safe other than at this point we have 4 lynches left to get (probably) 3 scum (guess based off of the mafia game archive with scum/player ratios)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 04:55:05 AM
Ok, just read through the logs of an old mafia game (Generic F11 I believe it was), and Serela is acting a lot like the scum from that game...
Was Serela scum in that game? >.>; Try checking Darker then Black Mafia, that's the last one I remember that had a Serela scum in it.

Quote
honestly everyone else is probably pretty safe other than at this point we have 4 lynches left to get (probably) 3 scum (guess based off of the mafia game archive with scum/player ratios)
Uhm if we get this one wrong we will have to lynch all three scum in a row. I actually wonder about that number. If there is a scum bombmaker, there might only be two.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 04:59:16 AM
Try checking Darker then Black Mafia, that's the last one I remember that had a Serela scum in it.
I was braindead in that game. Try Graveyard Mafia. I hold it together until around D3 at least, there. Plus it's a -lot- more recent.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 05:16:22 AM
Was Serela scum in that game? >.>; Try checking Darker then Black Mafia, that's the last one I remember that had a Serela scum in it.
Nope, but still, similar playing to the scum making me wonder...
I was braindead in that game. Try Graveyard Mafia. I hold it together until around D3 at least, there. Plus it's a -lot- more recent.
ugh, anonymous posting.  From what I could get out of it, playing looks similar.
Uhm if we get this one wrong we will have to lynch all three scum in a row. I actually wonder about that number. If there is a scum bombmaker, there might only be two.
we have 4 lynches left to get (probably) 3 scum
That's what i said/I was including tonight's lynch
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 04, 2012, 05:25:13 AM
ShadyK makes me sad for implying we're all terrible people. :ohdear:
WELL GOOD I dont remember implying this I forgot what I said but I think you're all nice people.

No stooop it we want you both to stay ;_;
Shady, be honest, is he looking like a better candidate because more people are voting for him then Serela?
OF COURSE NOT...well maybe a little.  I get the feeling Affinity somehow influenced me to vote for noname but I've got reason to believe he's town again.  The claim seems pretty legit and I am too easily influenced
##Unvote
Well I'd vote Serela but that'd be L-1 and stuff that.  Oh man Im so indecisive it hurts sometimes.  I guess I could reread the posts again but it's late and I dont feel like it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 05:59:54 AM
Whyyyyy does no one want to lynch Anthy?

What has he done that's remotely town?

I'd like each person not voting anthy to give three reasons that Anthy is town in their next post.  Zero should involve WIFOM (i.e. 'scum would make more of an effort to look like a townie')
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 06:00:55 AM
Also, no name, don't claim.

Seriously.

L-1 wagons are no reason to claim, unless there's serious intent to hammer, and no one wants that today.

Shadoweh, I see no reason to MC at this juncture, which means limiting claims as a whole.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
I just think his 451 is p.good. He shows good thought processes on lots of people and is telling us what he thinks and why he thinks it and it makes sense and all that jazz. And then there's his earlier posts that I don't really remember anymore.
I don't think it looks necessarily townie because it doesn't end in a vote. Do you not have an issue with him playing passively? Anthy's passive play is one of the main reasons I suspect him.

Also, L-1 is not something to be afraid of.

ICE cut: If the Serela lynch becomes impossible for some reason I'd lynch Anthy, but Serela's conduct has been scummier and his wagon actually has consistent support. I'd rather have Anthy hammer than Nameless, for whatever that's worth.

You never elaborated on your Nameless vote, either.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 04, 2012, 06:12:41 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, I have no name, ShadyK

Serela is at L2


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~40 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 04, 2012, 07:17:46 AM
Quote from: Serela
What made huhwhat scummier than GreyICE in your decision to vote for him today, since you wanted him lynched yesterday?  I get the impression that you are just heaving weight on wagons.

Thing is that IHNM still suspected GreyICE, in his list and at the start of D2 despite the mason claim.  I do not see how it was wrong for me to ask this question, from his perspective.

Quote from: huhwhat
It looks weird that you dropped ShadyK so fast because you thought your pressure wasn't going anywhere. It wasn't particularly late in the day, so you still had time to convince people of your read. What about his posts today made him read townier to you? I'm not seeing any changes in his behavior.

Most of the people had already voted when I switched, and most of them thought ShadyK town without even addressing my reasons.  Since he had already responded to my accusations, and I had nothing new on him, might as well make my vote more useful by voting on the more viable targets today.

===

I'm not comfortable with the way huhwhat seems to be dissing the IHNM wagon here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799313.html#msg799313) from a distance, in that he seems to be clearing IHNM  based on his own opinions of how a newbtown is like, without directly addressing the valid points which were levied at him or questioning the people who made them other than Serela.  What exactly about the points against IHNM do you find disagreeable, huhwhat?

At the end of the day, I'm not sure if I agree with everyone on how opportunistic and strange Serela's vote on IHNM is, since the reasoning for voting him is more or less the same, it's just that his vote on an easy target for easy reasons and little else,  after five IRL days of effectual absence, is completely underwhelming.  Same goes with IHNM's sudden manipulation of his opinions in order to vote Serela, rendering his entire D1 and D2 useless; both of them are alike in that they effectively do nothing until they vote each other, and in this they are unreadable.  The thing is that IHNM has had posted more and was more active in heaving his weight on most available wagons without clear justification, such as ICE, huhwhat, etc, and thus I feel that he is the better choice for today's lynch if it comes down to a choice between the two, rather than Serela, who seemed to have IRL excuses. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
Alright, let's get this out before I go to sleep.

I'm doing things -now- at least. It's like... I'm not not doing anything anymore, via attacking someone else for not doing anything! It sort of defeats itself. But I digress. It's vaguely confusing to explain.
Is this the part where I say something like: "Even if you admit you were wrong, that doesn't change the fact that you were wrong."
Because when you yourself say that your statement defeats itself, I don't exactly feel the urge to clamour in your townieness.

Dormio, what you're saying is still weird when you look at it. Are you expecting me to give him a free pass for not doing anything simply because I was nonexistent d1? That would be dumb.
It's not my fault if you claimed to be around at the end of D1, claimed to have a post written up and everything, but then supposedly lost the post and failed to reproduce any of its contents.
What I'm saying is that your timing is suspicious. You were clearly around before you switched to him, yet you failed to say anything about him at all.
To me, his content looks mostly the same throughout the entire game, so I asked for you to clarify why you saw him differently from how you did before.
You claim that IHNN did stuff before #150 and coasted afterwards, but I can't see it.
Feel like explaining to me how exactly his attitude changed?

>In addition, you did never mention him at all until after Affinity and I were voting him.
This would be more valid if I had made any posts before then.
The fact that you didn't exist up until that point doesn't do you any favors.
It might have also helped if you did that thing where you provided opinions on more than one person.

IHNN's attitude change after people started voting him instead of Serela is a thing. Whatever.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 04, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
I don't think it looks necessarily townie because it doesn't end in a vote. Do you not have an issue with him playing passively? Anthy's passive play is one of the main reasons I suspect him.

Also, L-1 is not something to be afraid of.

ICE cut: If the Serela lynch becomes impossible for some reason I'd lynch Anthy, but Serela's conduct has been scummier and his wagon actually has consistent support. I'd rather have Anthy hammer than Nameless, for whatever that's worth.

You never elaborated on your Nameless vote, either.

I held off on throwing my vote on Serela due to the bandwagon already sitting on him, and wasn't exactly thinking with ShadyK.

Also if you guys wanna continue the whole use a suspect to hammer for lynches I'm totally up for it :V :V :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 05:44:28 PM
WHY ARE THERE PEOPLE NOT VOTING AT THIS STAGE. >8<
Anthy get your ass down on someone and vote. I don't care who as long as you state a reason behind it. If your intended wagon is full vote your second strongest suspect.

That goes for IHNN and Shady as well. There is no excuse for lollygagging around.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 05:53:34 PM
Affinity is ignoring me trying to bait him. >.> I think that makes him more townie. He is swaying me again, I feel the swaying calling for me to like his nice townie words @_@

Dormio, if I'm reading what you're saying about Serela correctly. Your case on him is that he didn't do much Day 1 and.. he didn't do much Day 1. And nothing he can do ever will make up for that. There are about five people we could lynch today for a bad Day 1, including you. =.=
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
WHY ARE THERE PEOPLE NOT VOTING AT THIS STAGE. >8<
That goes for IHNN and Shady as well. There is no excuse for lollygagging around.
Because I've been AFK for 13 hours.

Just to make sure before throwing my vote, are we lynching Serela or do I vote on my second most scummy prospect?
and if we are lynching Serela, who's hammering?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
We are not lynching anyone until there are less then 24 hours left in the day.

Vote for who you think is scum. I can't give you instructions other then that, the point of making you vote is to see what you do and why. Just tell us what you think and why you're doing what you do.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Sooo, no one is giving reasons on why obscum Anthy is town

/dislike
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 06:57:21 PM
Alright then, I'm also assuming we're avoiding L-1-ing people right now, ##Vote: Affinity
As people have mentioned, that vote on me was completely out of the blue and seemed like jumping on a bandwagon.

In addition, he completely disregarded the answer to his question I gave, and his reasoning for clearing Serela I fit all of them except D1 lurking.

he also distrusted my "sudden manipulation of opinions", which was me looking back at everything with a fresh mindset and realizing many of my original conclusions didn't make much sense.

All of these points are made entirely off of Affinity's #501.

We are not lynching anyone until there are less then 24 hours left in the day.
This is what I wanted to know, because Serela had enough support to be lynched immediately.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 07:09:56 PM
Whyyyyy does no one want to lynch Anthy?

What has he done that's remotely town?

I'd like each person not voting anthy to give three reasons that Anthy is town in their next post.  Zero should involve WIFOM (i.e. 'scum would make more of an effort to look like a townie')

Hi folks.

Anthy

Reasons.

Now.

I know 2 of you are his scumbuddies, but suck it up and deal.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 04, 2012, 07:13:53 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (1) - I have no name
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, ShadyK

Serela is at L2


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~27 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 07:17:15 PM
Hi folks.

Anthy

Reasons.

Now.

I know 2 of you are his scumbuddies, but suck it up and deal.
I have 1 reason.
Anthy is my 3rd pick, but he's least threatening scum IMO.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 07:45:05 PM
Sooooo, nameless is a buddy.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
>_<

There is no such thing as 'least threatening scum'. Do you have a reason that is related to you thinking he might be town?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 07:55:59 PM
##unvote
##vote: Nameless

Because hysterical
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 08:11:33 PM
Dormio, actually, reviewing things, I have a serious question for you.
You only unvoted I have no name in order to make room on his wagon for other people.
Now that there was room again, why didn't you go back? You voiced a dislike of him again, I'm asking why you, Dormio, not influenced by the thoughts of others, made this choice?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
@Shadoweh: Like I said, the AtE hurt me. His reaction to being put to L-1 made me question my scumread on him. And then his reaction to being unvoted made me un-question the scumread on him. As for why I'm still voting for Serela, because I believe that he's more likely to flip scum.

As for why Anthy is town: No clue. I haven't really read him at all. I'll get around to doing that when I have the time.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 08:29:57 PM
In other words, I am adopting Bard's view of "You're all scum aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa".
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Oh come on Dormio. That doesn't answer me at all. You don't have a reason to prioritize Serela over him right now other then Serela is where you got distracted to, do you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 08:36:01 PM
Simple: assuming 2 scum, those 2 were my top pick for scum team.  Since no one would vote ICE, I voted huh what to try to chip away at the scum.
If there are 3 Serela is probably 3rd right now, if ICE is town then idk who else.
I have 1 reason.
Anthy is my 3rd pick, but he's least threatening scum IMO.

What changed inbetween those two posts?

I mean besides you forgetting your own scumreads.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 08:39:21 PM
Also I'm underimpressed by the Serela wagon.

Anyone want to summarize the points in a few key bullets? 

I mean besides lurking and her posting like a sugar-high ditz, there's no real scumminess there. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 04, 2012, 08:40:48 PM
What's up with the Serela love, Swadomeh?
Also, what's up with the whole summing up my thoughts (inaccurately) on Serela as a single point in your #505?

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Whatever, uni.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 08:47:00 PM
What's up with the Serela love, Swadomeh?
Also, what's up with the whole summing up my thoughts (inaccurately) on Serela as a single point in your #505?

Warning - choo choo i'm a train
Whatever, uni.
Maybe we're trying to figure the game out, Ran Ran

-_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 08:56:49 PM
It actually has nothing to do with Serela. I'm asking you what your motives are. I'm also asking you to objectively compare how you feel about the two people you suspect and make an informed decision between them instead of staying where you are when it's easier.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
I'm not comfortable with the way huhwhat seems to be dissing the IHNM wagon here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799313.html#msg799313) from a distance, in that he seems to be clearing IHNM  based on his own opinions of how a newbtown is like, without directly addressing the valid points which were levied at him or questioning the people who made them other than Serela.  What exactly about the points against IHNM do you find disagreeable, huhwhat?
At the time I made that post, I hadn't really been finding any of the points against Nameless to stand out. He posted justifications when switching to ICE on D1 (though it was before the actual vote), and I was under the impression the PX vote was for the sake of majority, given the bomb theories. The "heaping weight on wagons" accusation didn't seem true to me.

I will give you that his more recent priorities have seemed odd, since his OMGUS on you after he stated he took your vote way too personally and shouldn't have suspected you in his #475 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799309.html#msg799309), but at the same time, I think the switch rings more of legitimate scumhunting than waffly flailing. If Nameless really was using his suspicion lists as an excuse to justify opportunistically switching his vote to whereever it would have the most weight, then he could have kept it down on Serela and switched to another wagon if a new counterwagon to him showed up, so I still disagree that he's only using his vote to help wagons accumulate support. The same could be said of his ED2 vote on me, since I showed little promise of becoming an viable wagon at that point, with the only vote on me being pressure from Shadoweh.

Overall, I think it looks more like Nameless is using his vote as a tool to press his myriad suspects than waffling around and heaping weight on growing wagons, so I don't buy into the case on him.

Also I'm underimpressed by the Serela wagon.

Anyone want to summarize the points in a few key bullets? 

I mean besides lurking and her posting like a sugar-high ditz, there's no real scumminess there.
- Cheerleading up and coming cases (PX and Rawr wagons) on D1 without ever actually pushing for anything, including the cases he seemed to support
- Voting Nameless for having no strong explained stances while failing to have any strong explained stances immediately afterwards - if Nameless hadn't made the post with no strong stances, Serela would be guilty of exactly what he was attacking Nameless for
- Lurking through the meat of D1 with no substantial contribution to make up for it (this is legitimately scummy and saying "besides lurking" is basically dismissing something scummy just because)

The masons seem crazy disjointed at the moment. I'm curious what Shadoweh thinks about her buddy's pressure on Anthy, and why she hasn't tried to convince him of the Serela case if Serela is who she's voting. Looks lazy. :<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 09:43:52 PM
Also, GreyICE acting like everybody not voting Anthy thinks Anthy is town is stupid silly. People can't have their vote in two places. Additionally, I'm not going to spend the entire day pushing for an Anthy lynch if I think Serela looks a lot worse.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:00:35 PM
Sooooo, nameless is a buddy.
?
>_<

There is no such thing as 'least threatening scum'. Do you have a reason that is related to you thinking he might be town?
I meant by that, 'scum least likely to cause trouble'.
What changed inbetween those two posts?

I mean besides you forgetting your own scumreads.
I re-read the thread.
Are you actually reading all of my posts?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:02:46 PM
?I meant by that, 'scum least likely to cause trouble'.I re-read the thread.
Are you actually reading all of my posts?

Yup.

They're scummy and amazingly bad.

Your 'reread' an old mafia game and 'decided' that Serela looked like she was playing like she did in that game so she needed to be lynched.

That's meta bullshit scumbag arguments, and Serela is now virtually guaranteed to be town. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Yup.

They're scummy and amazingly bad.

Your 'reread' an old mafia game and 'decided' that Serela looked like she was playing like she did in that game so she needed to be lynched.

That's meta bullshit scumbag arguments, and Serela is now virtually guaranteed to be town.
Flawed Logic: I'm not scum

I perused several older ones to try to get a better feel for how this went and noted playstyle similarities.
The re-read was this thread up to that point.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 10:05:49 PM
Quote
The masons seem crazy disjointed at the moment. I'm curious what Shadoweh thinks about her buddy's pressure on Anthy, and why she hasn't tried to convince him of the Serela case if Serela is who she's voting. Looks lazy. :<
You mad? Convince me I should do something about it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:05:59 PM
Flawed Logic: I'm not scum

I perused several older ones to try to get a better feel for how this went and noted playstyle similarities.
The re-read was this thread up to that point.
Would you say most experienced posters tend to post similarly in most games they play in, regardless of alignment?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 10:12:33 PM
You mad? Convince me I should do something about it.
because if you don't push your opinions you're not a threat to scum, and that's why scum doesn't NK you vOv

Given this and your position on the Rawr wagon followed by your D2 opener, I'm getting major "I don't care who gets lynched" vibes from you, which is fucked up since you should be a confirmed town mason.  If you're confirmed town then you should be doing things with it instead of just watching as the rest of the game squabbles over the two competing wagons.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - ICE, Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
-----
ICE (5) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr
-----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - Shadoweh,Dan,  Serela, Dormio
-----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela, Dormio, dr rawr, i have no name
----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (7) -  Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what,  Shadoweh,ICE, dr rawr
----
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, ShadyK
----
I have no name (4) - Dormio, Affinity, Serela, ShadyK
----


hmmmm

Vote: ShadyK

The extreme difference inbetween day 1 and day 2 says someone was taking an observational position on day 1, and has moved into a straight opportunistic position on day 2.

Lessee what happens when I do this ^_^
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
People it is a stone bitch to move wagons onto:

Anthy
Affinity
Shadek
huhwhat

Weird shit: No one seems to think these people are town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
The extreme difference inbetween day 1 and day 2 says someone was taking an observational position on day 1, and has moved into a straight opportunistic position on day 2.
Have you ISO'd Serela lately?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:19:30 PM
Have you ISO'd Serela lately?
You guys don't have that function.

Anyway, I don't like Serela for scum, and if push comes to shove I'll make a town case for her... something I loath doing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:20:56 PM
Would you say most experienced posters tend to post similarly in most games they play in, regardless of alignment?
In general yes.
Also I wasn't voting based on things from other games, it was merely an observation I made.

Anyway, if you hate my meta-playing because I wasn't in those games (which are available to anyone), why don't you hate other people using for how players have acted in previous games as partial reasoning for votes?

Also now there's ~24 hours left in the day.
His reaction to being put to L-1 made me question my scumread on him.   This is the right choice
 And then his reaction to being unvoted made me un-question the scumread on him.  What reaction?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:21:59 PM
Have you ISO'd Serela lately?
What does ISO stand for?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Also nice fakevote on ShadyK ICE >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
You guys don't have that function.

Anyway, I don't like Serela for scum, and if push comes to shove I'll make a town case for her... something I loath doing.
Does your browser not have a CTRL+F function? Use something from his profile (like subtitle, identity) if his name alone gets a bunch of irrelevant results.

Go ahead and make that town case. Serela is scum and I want to know why people are giving him a pass for blatant lurkscum behavior. You of all people should be immune to "but serela is ALWAYS terrible.........." since you haven't played here before.

Nameless cut: ISO is when you read a player's posts in isolation.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 10:32:03 PM
You mean the wagon I left and urged not to have deliver the hammer on the bomb and my opener where I accuse you of being scum? Are.. are you trying to blame me for your own town wagon? Do you understand why I phrased my question like that? Your prodding seems too soft, if you're offended then say so and don't suck up to me because I'm confirmed town.

I'm not enthused about these wagons. I'm trying really hard to be gung-ho about it, but I don't feel like I have no name is scum, and I don't feel like Serela is anything but flailing derp. In theory there should have been more wagons but because people don't feel the need to have their votes anywhere..

Rereading the mafia for five hours has given me a splitting headache. The only thing I'm sure of is I don't think No name is scum. He reminds me of an inoffensive JOB and the way he's taking instructions from the thread make he think he's not getting them from anywhere else. I have decided. I Do Not Want a wagon on him.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 10:40:06 PM
Maybe I'm thinking about Serela too hard. I hadn't noticed until ICE posted those handy votecounts, but Serela was voting PX then disappeared off the wagon and didn't put his vote on either of the town choices. I think Dormio is town so it kind of makes his name in one of those counts look very auspicious!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
Are we sure it's masons and not neighbors?  Because I just ISO-d Serela (now knowing what it means, hadn't even considered it before honestly), and that reminded me this game had a Night 0 phase.

Did the same for ICE since recent posts have made me question my initial questioning of my scumread on him...he mostly seems to be defending Anthy and Serela, and voting whoever has a wagon, a fact hidden since he left out some of the majority votes to show ShadyK as always off the majority/always on the majority.

A prime example of one of these would be the current wagon on myself-ShadyK isn't on it, ICE is.

I'm not enthused about these wagons. I'm trying really hard to be gung-ho about it, but I don't feel like I have no name is scum, and I don't feel like Serela is anything but flailing derp. In theory there should have been more wagons but because people don't feel the need to have their votes anywhere..
Then who do you think is scum/who do you want a wagon on?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 10:44:25 PM
You mean the wagon I left and urged not to have deliver the hammer on the bomb and my opener where I accuse you of being scum? Are.. are you trying to blame me for your own town wagon? Do you understand why I phrased my question like that? Your prodding seems too soft, if you're offended then say so and don't suck up to me because I'm confirmed town.
I'm not offended or trying to blame you for Rawr's death, I'm ~annoyed~ because I get the impression you're apathetic about which wagons you're supporting with your vote and that you care less about playing just because you (and most other players) consider yourself confirmed town, meaning you don't have to look good.

Actually, I get an "idc" sort of vibe from... like, just about everybody but Affinity and ICE, actually, and it's really discouraging. <_< I dunno, maybe I'm just demotivating myself automatically because I'm congested and it's California and there's heat everywhere and ugh I don't feel like posting in MotK Mafia.

Why is Serela flailing derp? I'm not seeing it. I'd go as far to say he's flailing less than usual. You and ICE seem to be giving Serela derp passes... because... you are, I guess. I don't understand why people do this.

Nameless cut: They implied being confirmed to eachother. I already went over why I don't see a reason to doubt the claim back on D1.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 04, 2012, 10:53:40 PM
Would you say most experienced posters tend to post similarly in most games they play in, regardless of alignment?
He was actually looking at a game I wasn't scum in, assumably looking at scum-who-aren't-Serela, but

I'd rather not claim today if avoidable, but with how things are looking, it seems likely I'll have to. Bleh.

On the topic of bombs, I doubt there'd be a scum bombmaker (An idea that has been thrown around) in addition to townies that start out as bombs, which PX quite certainly seemed to be. I also doubt there's a second bomb around, because, well... it'd be strange.

Why Anthy Is Town: A Serela Report
1.Building actual cases on people and giving good thought processes and etc and stuff in his posts throughout the first half of D1 and his post in D2
2.IMO I can't blame him for what happened the second half of D1 because, well, jeez, half the game was both tired and utterly confounded by what was going on. His response wasn't worse then a bunch of other people's response.
3.I'd like to imagine that scum would actually care enough about looking good to VOTE SOMEONE (ex:His first post today). That being said, this is being an issue D2 with like half the game unvoting and not voting anyone else at some point in time. It's understandable when they aren't voting just because they don't want their preferred wagon at L-1 (or hammered if it was already there), but the problem is being larger then that.
I don't feel like 3 goes against ICE's no-WIFOM stipulation, but it does sorta come close I guess? There's some things that are just sort of a thing that happens. Sure, theoretically scum could play badly for WIFOM's sake of being "too bad to be scum" or whatever, but in reality that shit doesn't work and nobody really does it either. They just... don't.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 04, 2012, 11:03:14 PM
Hmmm...

Anthy needs to post.

So does Shadek
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 11:07:50 PM
words
that's cool, but what do you think about the guy you're currently voting now that he's posted some more
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 11:08:11 PM
Of course the scum don't care, they don't even have to post to win. :V

I get what you mean though. It's draining when everytime I ask someone 'why X' I feel like I get ignored. But I do care. I care for the safety of Townsville! ^_^/ This is the time for ~*~townie motivation~*~ and ferreting out the scum! Besides I always consider myself confirmed town, I would be terrible at this if I doubted my role pm.

Nameless: Where has ICE been defending Anthy? Please quote this specifically because I don't think it has ever happened.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 04, 2012, 11:12:04 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
ShadyK (1) - ICE
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (1) - I have no name
Anthy (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, ShadyK

Serela is at L2


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~23 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 11:30:22 PM
Nameless: Where has ICE been defending Anthy? Please quote this specifically because I don't think it has ever happened.
Ah, wait, I mis-remembered what was being said.  Upon checking it was a sarcastic question I was remembering in which ICE called Anthy "obscum".
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 11:43:14 PM
@mod
Vote: ShadyK
Quote from: rules
6. Votes must be bolded with the double octothorpes, as so: ##Vote: <player>. Same applies to unvotes.
fakevote.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 04, 2012, 11:52:33 PM
Quote from: IHNM
As people have mentioned, that vote on me was completely out of the blue and seemed like jumping on a bandwagon.

In addition, he completely disregarded the answer to his question I gave, and his reasoning for clearing Serela I fit all of them except D1 lurking.

he also distrusted my "sudden manipulation of opinions", which was me looking back at everything with a fresh mindset and realizing many of my original conclusions didn't make much sense.

How is jumping on your bandwagon different from what you have been doing up to now, with your haphazard change of your priorities which came with the votes on huhwhat, Serela and me?  I had given my reasons for voting you here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799052.html#msg799052), and if you feel that any of them are lacking, it is best if you address them directly.  Also, the reason why I picked you over Serela is because you were the one around constantly throwing weight onto wagons D1 and D2 for no reasoning at all while Serela seemed to have IRL stuff which prevented his participation in the game.  Anyone, scum or town, can make justification after the fact in the form of 'I wasn't clear with myself', and I have no reason to trust you on this.

As for your answer to the why huhwhat over GreyICE thing, it was fine and did not change my opinion on you. 

Will be back with a content post in awhile.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 04, 2012, 11:58:46 PM
Affinity, why does Serela get a pass for IRL issues preventing him from posting clearly when Nameless has cited them as well?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 12:00:30 AM
start-->huh what vote:  What am I doing?
huh what --> Serela: k let's sheep
Serela --> Affinity: Wait why am I letting myself be bossed around?+reread of thread
Serela seemed to have IRL stuff which prevented his participation in the game.
So lurking is town?
I had IRL stuff too but was still trying to be a good townie.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 12:40:42 AM
It occurred to me that after I go to sleep, I'm not going to be back until like an hour or two before deadline, and that I'm about to go out with the family for awhile... I really better just claim now I guess :\

I'm Die, The Felt Assassin. I can preform a one-shot nightkill via sticking someone's pin into my voodoo doll during the night. Didn't use it n1 because I don't want to waste it and me getting nk'd looked just about impossible.

That's also why I highly doubt there's a second bomb, in addition to the fact that two bombs in one setup would be strange.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 12:54:45 AM
Serela, can you do me a favor, and count the amount of people alive, then count how many there will be tomorrow, then tell us again why you didn't use the kill Night 1 after 2 townies died? :)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 12:57:43 AM
Huh?

/me  counts and...

Ummm... oh :c

I, uh, didn't think about that. I was too busy being all like "AWW YEAH I FINALLY ROLLED VIG".
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 01:14:25 AM
I hope you can hear the sound of me strangling you right now. It's pretty sweet.
WHY DIDN'T YOU KILL SOMEONE NIGHT ONE?! There were a plethora of suspects to whittle down. (I refuse to hear any of your pot kettle black statements)

@mod: Would you tell us if we were in Psudeo-LYLO?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 01:16:20 AM
Quote
15. I will announce when LYLO or Pseudo-LYLO arrives.
Okay, so he would. Serela, in theory, if you can shoot you would end the game. Why do  you think this is not the case?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Short of some weird mod bastardry, it means there could only be two scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 01:24:06 AM
Or the mod can't count.

Serela is town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 01:28:10 AM
@Mod: Can you confirm that we are not in LYLO or Pseudo-LYLO?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 01:31:39 AM
It is not pseudo-lylo or lylo.
I will announce this in big letters that are impossible to miss when it is time. Like, really big.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 01:35:08 AM
I should really stop voting for someone I think is town seriously.

##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio


Yes, Dormio. Or possibly huh what again, I can't decide. But since the game is guarenteed not to end, there is no reason not to let Serela take his SHOT OF JUSTICE!

Okay let's talk about something I've been panicing about in the QT for awhile. Dan specifically told us his role had a second ability that he thinks meant there was at least one more bomb out there. There was already precident to believe this. There is likely only two scum. On top of that, if there is a bomber they likely also do not win with town. A nice 9-1-2 setup would keep us out of LYLO for a long time and would ezplain why the game is so disjointed, we're looking for extra scum links that just aren't there.

Yes, I'm sure I'm not a part of the scum quicktopic. Before someone asks. :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 01:38:02 AM
Hm.

I think there are better ways to deal with this claim than lynching Serela today, since it's a provable action and we are indeed not in any form of LYLO. Nightvig is a really shitty scum fakeclaim given the circumstances. 1 bomb, 1 nightvig, 2 scum sounds like a reasonable enough set-up if scum have a Godfather of the kill-immune variety, especially since the bomb could backfire on the nightvig.

Obviously, we should lynch somebody else, then have Serela shoot a suspect tonight. If we mislynch and tomorrow ends up being LYLO with only one overnight death, then he's caught scum and we're killing him. Pretty sure that no matter what happens, the numbers will out Serela eventually if this is a scum fakeclaim.

##Unvote
##Vote Anthy
Gonna put my vote somewhere useful before I re-read.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 01:39:55 AM
LYLO meaning true LYLO. Psuedo LYLO would be explainable, I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 01:43:09 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (1) -  Shadoweh
Serela (1) -  Dormio
ShadyK (1) - ICE
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (1) - I have no name
Anthy (1) - huhwhat
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, ShadyK


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~21 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 01:48:32 AM
Yes, I'm sure I'm not a part of the scum quicktopic. Before someone asks. :V
Why would you flip out at the start of the game if you were just a mason/neighbor/whatever with ICE instead of a lone scumbuddy?

Serious Meta Questioning. This worries me because it reminds me of that time PX claimed scum in his jokevote.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 01:59:10 AM
Why would you flip out at the start of the game if you were just a mason/neighbor/whatever with ICE instead of a lone scumbuddy?

Serious Meta Questioning. This worries me because it reminds me of that time PX claimed scum in his jokevote.
They are obviously third party lovers.

Yo, what's up, I'm back and now reading.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 02:13:27 AM
http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004749
First line of that page.

Also, assuming 2 scum, I have 2 possible picks for scumteams: Affinity+Anthy+ShadyK(2 of 3), and ICE+Shadoweh, mostly because they have a quicktopic. 
Dormio has still not been memorable this game for me, same for huh what (or at least, not memorable in light of the revelations I don't get)
I don't fully trust Serela's claim but he seems less scummy.

Still obvnewbtown here.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 02:39:05 AM
To be honest, I have no idea what the fuck if Serela is town. If this ends up being another PX Tracker claim situation then I will be pissed.

I wrote up a paragraph of Shadoweh/ICE paranoia but then I deleted it because it was stupid. tl;dr I think the mason gambit is possible if there's no third buddy and they planned it out from the confirmation phase, which is why Shadoweh's confirmation post jumped out at me when I went to re-read. I have gut on scum!Shadoweh but there's nothing solid, ergh. Not willing to lynch either as long as the 2-scum theory is still unconfirmed.

Nameless... I still can't bring myself to buy the case on him, and none of it has really "changed" since I last talked about him. Re-reading didn't change my town read, either. ShadyK's softclaim still looks town to me, and nothing in his posts jumps out at me as scummy.

I'm tired and have a weird migraine coming and going, so I don't think I actually got much out of my re-read aside from some questions I want to press people about. Rawr and Serela look really horrible... oh.  :fail:

I'm content taking another look at Anthy, considering that he was scared about hopping on Serela's wagon early in the day. Like I said earlier, L-1 isn't something to be afraid of. I can't imagine a player wanting to avoid hopping on a wagon unless they were scared people might read them as scum, and this is consistent with my belief that Anthy has been trying to take safe stances and avoid getting into fights with other players all game. There's been little-to-no aggressive pushing for his beliefs, and his activity died completely during the most critical juncture of D1.

Affinity, what do you think of Anthy today? After all, you said he was worth looking into on D2 in your #326 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798239.html#msg798239), but you dropped him completely after your first post of the day. It's weird that you said Serela was worth looking into as well, but then proceeded to give him passes all day while focusing on IHNM who was at the bottom of your list at the time. I'm not sure what sort of revelation could have caused this inconstency, so it seems possible that you were setting up a bunch of potential stances for whenever necessary.

Dormio, why did you think PX would be more active on D1 in your #155 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797627.html#msg797627) after he spent the last game lurking through it? You were his scumbuddy, so you should know what his scum D1 play was like. Also, why is ShadyK on your ignore list? (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799215.html#msg799215) Why are you even ignoring players in the first place? Finally, why have you been so overly willing to drop your case on Nameless during various points throughout the game? You did this both on D1 and today.

Shadoweh, who is scum and why? From what I could tell, you were giving Dormio and I enough of a town pass to disclude us when using PoE back in your #480 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799319.html#msg799319). You've been flipflopping the entire day and apparently didn't even think Serela is scum, which leaves you with... just about nothing. I can't tell what your opinions are supposed to be at all aside from Dormio and I being potential scum because ____, even though we supposedly weren't earlier in the day.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 05, 2012, 02:46:14 AM
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 02:50:47 AM
Dormio, why did you think PX would be more active on D1 in your #155 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797627.html#msg797627) after he spent the last game lurking through it? You were his scumbuddy, so you should know what his scum D1 play was like.
Actually that was the point where I gave up on him posting and decided that I would like to see his lynch.

Also, why is ShadyK on your ignore list? (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799215.html#msg799215) Why are you even ignoring players in the first place?
Because I think that he's likely to be town. I tend to do this when I don't have as much time to devote to mafia as I would like. Or when I am just Munak as fuck.

Finally, why have you been so overly willing to drop your case on Nameless during various points throughout the game? You did this both on D1 and today.
Because I keep double guessing myself on whether his behaviour could simply be caused by inexperience.

Anyway, attempting to write posts and stuff. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 02:52:50 AM
I just realized that the question about PX was dumb because he rolled scum both times he lurked through D1 recently, which you poked him for. So, uh... belated nevermind I guess :shrug:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 02:57:34 AM
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
So that puts us both on pretty much the same page. (As mentioned, I'm still a little skeptical of ICE+Shadoweh)
Also scum voting/pushing other scum without telling the other makes it have a more realistic reaction, Anthy does that fine, but Affinity did seem like he was trying to bus you (and I fell for it a bit before I decided to look at everything again with a detached mindset)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 03:39:44 AM
Affinity always seems like he's trying to bus people, it's his natural style. :V By the way Shady, Affinity voting for you increases your chances of flipping scum by at least 50% if he's scum first.

Why would you flip out at the start of the game if you were just a mason/neighbor/whatever with ICE instead of a lone scumbuddy?
What the hell does 'Just a mason' mean? I don't get off on claiming scum when no one notices, I play to win. Don't pin PX's meta on me. I'm a little upset right now because it's occured to me that as long as this paranoid scenario is possible I'm never going to get nightkilled. I promised Dan my flip would clarify everything but it doesn't matter if I can't frigging die. It tempts me to have Serela consider shooting one of us. But any chance of scum is better then none at all. 

Tracker is a different claim from Vigilante, you know that. Trackers can fake results that vigs can't.

And my confirmation post sums up how I felt about being locked in a Quicktopic with ICE after our argument in the sign-up thread. Honestly I could have had Dormio, or huh what, or even Serela but NO, I got stuck with meanieface mcpooperhead. Hourai is a bastard.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 04:31:43 AM
Shadoweh, so you wish to die?
##Unvote
##Vote: Shadoweh
No, seriously, you're probably (~95%) town, and one of the better assets on our side.
##Unvote
##Vote: Anthy
Because I want to see either Affinity or Anthy lynched at the end of the day, and Affinity seems less likely at the moment.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 04:33:13 AM
You know what? Shadoweh/GreyICE scumteam. Let's do this.
##Unvote
##Vote Shadoweh
(If I were Shadoweh, then this would be the end of the post. :V)

Why Shadoweh? Well, first of all, everything I said in my #447 still applies to her.
I don't like her handwaving #447 either. Her entire response to #447 was "I get the gist of what Dormio is accusing me of now." (#470)
In fact, has she not been doing this all game?
She proceeds to forget that #447 ever happened from that point onwards and continues doing whatever the hell it is that she does.
Speaking of which, what has Shadoweh done this game? The number of cases that I have seen from Shadoweh this game is lesser than or equal to 0. I know that you're bound to get angry with this statement, Shadoweh, so I give you the opportunity to cite examples of when you ever justified the votes that you placed on people during this game.
Seriously, somebody get me an example of Shadoweh scumhunting this game.
There's also that damn mason claim. I refuse to believe that someone like GreyICE would simply "leak" the fact that they are masons with another player on D1. Especially when he was the one that talked about not claiming unless absolutely necessary. (#498)

Anyway, doing stuff thing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 04:38:42 AM
Current thoughts go something like Shadoweh > Anthy > GreyICE.
Anyway, disappearing!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 04:39:12 AM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (1) -  Shadoweh
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (1) - ICE
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (1) -  Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (3) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name
ICE (0) -

Anthy is at L2

Not voting: Anthy


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~18 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 04:44:30 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm 100% town actually. ^_^

Dormio wants to lynch me on the basis of the theory that I pointed out. :< Dormio dear, if I'm scum with ICE

Uhm hold on I will be right back
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 04:49:53 AM
Nevermind, you guys have been calling him GreyICE  the whole time, I'm sad now. That would have been a cool scum catch.

If the chances of claiming masons when there are three scum is low, the chances of claiming masons when there are only two of you and one of you being accidentally caught means you auto-lose should be lower, not higher. If you think I'm scum with GreyICE, why does Anthy come before ICE on your voting priorities instead of after?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 05:03:58 AM
Nevermind, you guys have been calling him GreyICE  the whole time, I'm sad now.
I have been referring to him as ICE.
I'm pretty sure I'm 100% town actually. ^_^
Hmmm, I think I remember you saying something that answers this...
if you were scum you would lie to us about that!
Which is why 95% is as confident as I'm getting about anyone who's alignment I don't know (and I know between 1/3 and 1/2 of the player list's alignments, inclusive)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 05:17:51 AM
Noname I havent understood anything since the end of d1 :V  Ok but lemme clarify somthing.  There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me.  Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go.  Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well.    I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum.  But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.  Alright so now Im thinking ICE+Shadoweh are town, noname is town, Serela will prove to be town or not after tonight, dormio/huhwhat are a tad iffy but I'm leaning toward town, so that leaves...Affinity and Anthy.  Im thinking right now imma go with

##Vote:Anthy
The way you acted d1 makes you a suspect.  I remember how paranoid you were about that d1 mason claim which shouldnt make someone that uh paranoid. That and you called me a noob =(
##VOTE SHADYSCUM
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 05:24:32 AM
He's drawing us a roadmap of his buddies.

It's christmas.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 05:39:05 AM
his buddies.
Explain? You said Serela was town, and the mod confirmed we're not in any form of LYLO.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 05:51:15 AM
He thinks the part about Affinity is a super-specific denial considering what I told him about Affinity's tendencies towards his partners. My opinion on it is it's a little surreal to be coming from scum. It's the kind of post that causes your palm to be permenantly attached to your face when you read it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
Eh.

I think it's newbie silliness, not a scumtell. Otherwise you're telling me both Anthy and Affinity are his buddies, which is impossible due to Serela's claim.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 06:38:14 AM
Dormio wants to lynch me on the basis of the theory that I pointed out. :< Dormio dear, if I'm scum with ICE
Uh, what theory?

If you think I'm scum with GreyICE, why does Anthy come before ICE on your voting priorities instead of after?
This is for today's priorities. Basically what I'm saying is that, if we were to lynch from the claimed mason pair, I would much rather have you lynched than GreyICE.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 06:48:26 AM
The one where there are only two scum, dear. :V It's technically a theory until tomorrow, remember? Though with the way it's being treated it seems we're ready to call it confirmed.

I don't think you should lynch anyone from the pair because I think we're both town. If you're prioritizing one over the other it means you don't believe we're both scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 07:00:19 AM
Milady, I find it highly inappropriate for you to address someone such as myself as "dear".
I beg of you, milady, please think about where you say these things. You may be giving off the wrong appearance if you act so close to someone such as I.

If you're prioritizing one over the other it means you don't believe we're both scum.
I fail to see how this is the case.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 05, 2012, 07:19:25 AM
Welcome to I forget to do shit on sundays . < .

I didn't throw my vote to serela cause he was at L-2 already, and after that point I really didn't care much for voting.

Also, I feel like huhwhat is the only one who actually is backing himself up on his vote while noname and shadyK are just jumping on his coat tails for the bandwagon.

Also ICE, I'd like to see you post more opinions and explanations other than your rabid gnawing at peoples legs for their opinions . < .
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 07:27:21 AM
Hi Anthy please put your vote down on someone kthxbye
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 05, 2012, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: huhwhat, IHNM
Affinity, why does Serela get a pass for IRL issues preventing him from posting clearly when Nameless has cited them as well?

I said that it prevented Serela from participating in the game (e.g prevented him from posting at times if I recall correctly).  IHNM's case, however, did not since he was still posting quite a bit, and was only used as a means to AtE.  While lurking is certainly anti-town, it is certainly not as overtly scummy as heaving your weight around wagons without justification.  I never said that Serela was town, just that he was less scummy compared to you.

Quote from: huhwhat
Affinity, what do you think of Anthy today? After all, you said he was worth looking into on D2 in your #326, but you dropped him completely after your first post of the day. It's weird that you said Serela was worth looking into as well, but then proceeded to give him passes all day while focusing on IHNM who was at the bottom of your list at the time. I'm not sure what sort of revelation could have caused this inconstency, so it seems possible that you were setting up a bunch of potential stances for whenever necessary.

Revelations as well as my opinion on Anthy are explained in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799052.html#msg799052) of mine; I did not focus on him due to me thinking that D2 would be between Serela and IHNM.  I detailed the reasons for switching to IHNM quite clearly, I feel..

Reads coming up in another post.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 05, 2012, 10:24:20 AM
Hi Anthy please put your vote down on someone kthxbye

I'm not throwing my vote anywhere cause the serela train decided to switch tracks and it'd look stupid of me to vote back onto ShadyK which then I'd bet ICE would call me on an OMGUS like how he called me on role hunting when I was just being a stubborn fuck . < .

But if it would so pleeeease the masses

##vote: ShadyK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 05, 2012, 10:24:56 AM
P.S. School; I'm gonna be leaving in half an hour sooo . < .
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Affinity on March 05, 2012, 10:32:54 AM
I am with the school of thought that thinks Serela should be given a chance to prove his role tonight.  Content-wise, he is still banal and needs to update his opinions on other people, but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

I'm pretty baffled by his arbitrary PoE in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799856.html#msg799856) (e.g I happen to think X and Y as iffy but town but oh I'm left with two people and I need to vote one of them) as a reason to vote Anthy when he hadn't looked at him before, and I suppose I can level the same accusation at him as I did against IHNM with this post; that he is randomly heaving his weight on wagons for weak reasoning.  ShadyK, if you are onto him for obvious D1 reasons that anyone could pick up without a reread, why didn't you suspect him at the beginning of D2?  Same goes with his other actions of being 'easily influenced' in voting Serela and IHNM (even asking why he shouldn't be lynched at this point), only to suddenly think he is town for no reason.  Combined with what I raised early D2, I suppose I prefer his lynch today.

On Anthy, I think his posts, apart from the fact that he makes no votes, are decent and original (e.g early D2 ShadyK stance, ICE stance D1 which I agreed with, etc.).  While I somewhat understand his reasons for not voting in his first D2 post, his refusal to do so in subsequent posts strikes me as outright refusing to pick a stance and stick to it despite having the materials (e.g him noticing that IHNM and ShadyK jumped on his wagon) to do so.  And all this after his confident ICE vote at the beginning of yesterday, which is off-putting.  Anthy, would you mind telling us why you were so willing to vote ICE in D1 but not willing to vote anyone today?  There's also the thing where the votes on him with the exception of huhwhat's have no reasoning to them at all, and I'm mainly getting the vibe that he's just someone who (wrongfully) does not take much value into votes.  In the end, he's still a viable choice, if only because he didn't vote most of today and late D1, although my least favourite one for the above reasons. 

I think Dormio's early D2 is admirable in his reasonable vote for IHNM and reasonable change to Serela, which strikes me as scumhunting.  Not sure what to think of his telegraphed Shadoweh vote at the end, which seems reasonable enough discounting ShadowICE's mason claim, but I think him town in his actions despite his weak late D1.

huhwhat has been mostly pro-town looking for today in his constant questioning and stuff, but he has been iffy-looking on IHNM and ShadyK, defending them for what I see as inadequate reasons  Here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799313.html#msg799313) he says that IHNM is the 'worst-looking wagon' even though he admitted that IHNM posted reads without justification, but he did not suspect anyone on the wagon other than Serela, and did not do anything to convince the people who were on that wagon, only offering reasoning when prompted (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799694.html#msg799694).  Also, he clears ShadyK for his 'softclaim' alone, which strikes me as somewhat weird and selective.  Would like him to elaborate on this.  Other than that he's mostly solid, but a IHNM, ShadyK flip will tell us more about him.

I'm still completely disgusted by IHNM frequent changes in opinion prompted by frequent 'rereads' and other excuses,  While his case on me seems more like scumhunting compared to his previous votes, his Anthy vote came entirely out of nowhere and went from 'unmemorable' to 'lynchable' without any justification.  That said, credit should be given when credit is due with his reasonable vote on me, which I guess makes me feel slightly better about him when compared to ShadyK.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 01:58:28 PM
Explain? You said Serela was town, and the mod confirmed we're not in any form of LYLO.
Affinity.

Look at how bad he wanted to assure us that it was just not possible that him and affinity were scum together.

Then what does he do?

FOS: Affinity
Vote: Anthy
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
I mean seriously, it's like a fucking roadmap.

He flips scum, Serela, put a bullet in Affinity's brainpan.  Sure.  Thing.

Vast irony being that Shadoweh assured me in the QT that Affinity had a bad habit of eating his buddies :D
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
I am with the school of thought that thinks Serela should be given a chance to prove his role tonight.  Content-wise, he is still banal and needs to update his opinions on other people, but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: ShadyK

I'm pretty baffled by his arbitrary PoE in this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799856.html#msg799856) (e.g I happen to think X and Y as iffy but town but oh I'm left with two people and I need to vote one of them) as a reason to vote Anthy when he hadn't looked at him before, and I suppose I can level the same accusation at him as I did against IHNM with this post; that he is randomly heaving his weight on wagons for weak reasoning.  ShadyK, if you are onto him for obvious D1 reasons that anyone could pick up without a reread, why didn't you suspect him at the beginning of D2?  Same goes with his other actions of being 'easily influenced' in voting Serela and IHNM (even asking why he shouldn't be lynched at this point), only to suddenly think he is town for no reason.  Combined with what I raised early D2, I suppose I prefer his lynch today.

On Anthy, I think his posts, apart from the fact that he makes no votes, are decent and original (e.g early D2 ShadyK stance, ICE stance D1 which I agreed with, etc.).  While I somewhat understand his reasons for not voting in his first D2 post, his refusal to do so in subsequent posts strikes me as outright refusing to pick a stance and stick to it despite having the materials (e.g him noticing that IHNM and ShadyK jumped on his wagon) to do so.  And all this after his confident ICE vote at the beginning of yesterday, which is off-putting.  Anthy, would you mind telling us why you were so willing to vote ICE in D1 but not willing to vote anyone today?  There's also the thing where the votes on him with the exception of huhwhat's have no reasoning to them at all, and I'm mainly getting the vibe that he's just someone who (wrongfully) does not take much value into votes.  In the end, he's still a viable choice, if only because he didn't vote most of today and late D1, although my least favourite one for the above reasons. 

I think Dormio's early D2 is admirable in his reasonable vote for IHNM and reasonable change to Serela, which strikes me as scumhunting.  Not sure what to think of his telegraphed Shadoweh vote at the end, which seems reasonable enough discounting ShadowICE's mason claim, but I think him town in his actions despite his weak late D1.

huhwhat has been mostly pro-town looking for today in his constant questioning and stuff, but he has been iffy-looking on IHNM and ShadyK, defending them for what I see as inadequate reasons  Here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799313.html#msg799313) he says that IHNM is the 'worst-looking wagon' even though he admitted that IHNM posted reads without justification, but he did not suspect anyone on the wagon other than Serela, and did not do anything to convince the people who were on that wagon, only offering reasoning when prompted (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799694.html#msg799694).  Also, he clears ShadyK for his 'softclaim' alone, which strikes me as somewhat weird and selective.  Would like him to elaborate on this.  Other than that he's mostly solid, but a IHNM, ShadyK flip will tell us more about him.

I'm still completely disgusted by IHNM frequent changes in opinion prompted by frequent 'rereads' and other excuses,  While his case on me seems more like scumhunting compared to his previous votes, his Anthy vote came entirely out of nowhere and went from 'unmemorable' to 'lynchable' without any justification.  That said, credit should be given when credit is due with his reasonable vote on me, which I guess makes me feel slightly better about him when compared to ShadyK.

SCUM TRANSLATOR ACTIVATED:  HOLY GOD MY BUDDY JUST SET HIMSELF ON FIRE AND RAN IN A BIG CIRCLE SCREAMING "I'M SCUM WITH AFFINITY" LETS HOPE TO GOD THEY DON'T NOTICE MY GOD BURN THE LIABILITY BURN BURN BURN
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 04:01:42 PM
Serela: Burn Affinity tonight when ShadyK flips scum.

DO IT.

DO IT SERELA

SHADYK CLAIMED SCUMBUDDIES

Quote
There's no way Im with Affinity cuz he's the only one who has at one point actively voted me. Granted there could be some reverse psychology involved or whatever but I doubt it I mean just look at how in depth his arguments go. Then there's Anthy who said in #451 I'm somewhat scummy as well. I mean I doubt I'd be up for having either of my partners claim me as scum. But hey I guess that's a valid tactic.

HEY AFFINITY

DISCUSS YOUR DISTANCING MANEUVERS WITH YOUR NEWBIE SCUM PARTNERS
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 04:03:35 PM
God damnit Grey he can't be leaking his 'buddies' if there are only two of them. -_-

##Unvote
##Vote: Anthy


Affinity, if you're all up in the grills about horrible votes, how do you feel about that one Anthy just threw down and ran from the thread with?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
God damnit Grey he can't be leaking his 'buddies' if there are only two of them. -_-

##Unvote
##Vote: Anthy


Affinity, if you're all up in the grills about horrible votes, how do you feel about that one Anthy just threw down and ran from the thread with?

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE SHADOWEH

HE SCUMSLIPPED

DON'T MAKE ME GET ALL UP IN YOUR GRILL

THEY BOTH DIE

TODAY
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 04:06:10 PM
Do you know what's actually going to happen if you push him up? He's just going to claim whatever roll he's got, then we get to lynch Anthy anyways, then he gets shot in the head overnight. SCUMSLIPS ARE MAGIC PIXIES THAT DO NOT FUCKING HAPPEN IN ACTUAL GAMES
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
Do you know what's actually going to happen if you push him up? He's just going to claim whatever roll he's got, then we get to lynch Anthy anyways, then he gets shot in the head overnight. SCUMSLIPS ARE MAGIC PIXIES THAT DO NOT FUCKING HAPPEN IN ACTUAL GAMES
My god

I have so many counterexamples I CAN'T LINK TO.

McQueen saying that Hiraki was bussing him too hard
That idiot in MPM saying that he should be investigated by a cop if someone suspected him
That guy who claimed Bulletproof third party survivor in MST3K
Pom in Mordor when Fate got her to break down in the thread

ShadyK just claimed scum. 
Affinity just saw it and panic voted him to get him DEAD before more damage could be done.

It's not even FUNNY how bad those two need to die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 04:37:57 PM
But he already townnnsliiiippeedddd aaaaaaaugh

Affinity hasn't been panic voting him, he's been voting him for pretty much the entire game and Shady has been treating Affinity as town. Like this isn't like MS games where people have to get their instructions from each other in the thread, if he wanted Affinity to ease up he could be like HEY AFFINITY BUDDY PLZ STOP HITTIN ME in the QT
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 05:13:58 PM
But he already townnnsliiiippeedddd aaaaaaaugh

Affinity hasn't been panic voting him, he's been voting him for pretty much the entire game and Shady has been treating Affinity as town. Like this isn't like MS games where people have to get their instructions from each other in the thread, if he wanted Affinity to ease up he could be like HEY AFFINITY BUDDY PLZ STOP HITTIN ME in the QT
So ShadyK is treating Affinity like town all game

And then ALL OF A SUDDEN AFFINITY IS HIS SECOND PICK FOR SCUM BEHIND ANTHY?

AND THIS DOESN'T RING ANY WARNING BELLS?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 05:14:10 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (3) - ICE, Anthy, Affinity
I have no name (1) -  Serela
Shadoweh (1) -  Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (4) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name, Shadoweh
ICE (0) -

Anthy is at L1
ShadyK is at L2

Not voting: No one


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~5 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 05:26:24 PM
God damnit why do you always stop answering me right after I bring up something like how SERELA = TOWN MEANS THERE ARE NOT THREE SCUM. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS FOR THERE TO BE NO PSUEDO-LYLO. No three scummies.

The pain is making me just want to give up and follow but I do not want to start murdering newtown that we have agreed was newtown because you think he slipped scumbuddy stuff on someone we have also generally agreed is town. This is just chasing shadowehs!

DFGFGH DO YOU THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT VOTING AFFINITY
BECAUSE HE'S NOT SURE HE'S SCUM

HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET SHOT ANYWAYS
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 05:40:40 PM
God damnit why do you always stop answering me right after I bring up something like how SERELA = TOWN MEANS THERE ARE NOT THREE SCUM. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS FOR THERE TO BE NO PSUEDO-LYLO. No three scummies.

The pain is making me just want to give up and follow but I do not want to start murdering newtown that we have agreed was newtown because you think he slipped scumbuddy stuff on someone we have also generally agreed is town. This is just chasing shadowehs!

DFGFGH DO YOU THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT VOTING AFFINITY
BECAUSE HE'S NOT SURE HE'S SCUM

HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET SHOT ANYWAYS
OR IT MEANS THERE'S PROTECTIVE ROLES
OR IT MEANS THE MODERATOR DOESN'T CONSIDER A VIGILANTE TO PUT US IN PSEUDO-LYLO
OR THERE'S A THIRD PARTY OF SOME SORT
SHADYK IS NOT TOWN
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Pesco on March 05, 2012, 05:46:58 PM
Yo

Get a new keyboard.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
Are we getting trolled by a moderator?

-_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 06:14:59 PM
It's more like stop yelling in all caps or you will receive a penalty. I've been very lenient so far. Again and there will be consequences.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
It's more like stop yelling in all caps or you will receive a penalty. I've been very lenient so far. Again and there will be consequences.
Whatevs
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 05, 2012, 06:35:49 PM
Jegus ICE cool your self otherwise you're gonna turn into a puddle :p

Honestly I was being lazy with my D2 vote as there wasn't much firm ground in my opinion.  I'd honestly suggest against any double kill today as it'd shove it into potential lylo wouldn't it? Either that or a tight situation at least.  Besides what if serela is bluffcalling the vig? He didn't fire day 1 so it feels iffy, but for now I'm sticking to ShadyK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 05, 2012, 06:36:47 PM
P.S. I'm freezing my ass outside due to some jackass pulling a firealarm, person two on people I want to hit~<3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
Little over 3 hours left in the day. Votecount is unchanged.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
ShadeK has completely forgotten he's supposed to be suspicious of NoName at this point.

-_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 07:14:13 PM
I'm watching a Yoshi's Island video, how is that suspicious?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
Also no majority means no lynch, and do we want that at this point?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 07:31:32 PM
2 and a half hours left, and I'm going to be away for the first half of them.
When I get back I want to see at least SOME content/an Anthy or Affinity lynch.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Can we keep all-caps fighting in the QT
Anthy, Serela is going to shoot because otherwise we have no proof that he can. I don't even care who he shoots as long as he has his own reasons for it. He seems to think he can find the scum without words, so go for it.

Grey: This isn't a theatrics argument, it's mechanics. If Serela is a town vig there are not three scum, this is not negotiable. Protective roles don't change there being a possibility of the game ending. The vigilante DOES count, that's why it would be psudeo in the first place. The third possibility is the one I suspect.

Anthy's post contained some words for Serela and a lack of any reason at all for his vote. -_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 08:51:04 PM
Okay I'm home from school! And... not a whole lot happened since I was gone.

...so next up I'm voting my town read or my other town read! Looooovely. Readin' and stuff to figure out what I'm doing here.

##unvote because obv. the lynch isn't noname
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (3) - ICE, Anthy, Affinity
I have no name (0) - 
Shadoweh (1) -  Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (4) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name, Shadoweh
ICE (0) -

Anthy is at L1
ShadyK is at L2

Not voting: Serela


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in 1 hour. High noon.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
So I'm rereading what happened since I was gone over again and I'm seeing where this Affinity/ShadyK combo stuff is coming from, I'm actually agreeing with ICE here for once!

it's p.cool and I still read Anthy as newbtown being derpy! for reasons said before

##Vote ShadyK

ITCHING TO USE THE HELL OUT OF THIS VIG AWW YEAH SO EXCITED

especially if it seriously ends up being as easy as ShadyK scumflip and then shooting affinity, that would kick ass :3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
Ooh, a hammer opportunity... @_@

But he's not here.. Shady you were here like an hour ago why you no claim words. >.< Dormio, where are you at, your vote is the one that should be the decider!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
He hasn't posted since 571 yesterday

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799856.html#msg799856

Just sayin' ~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 09:10:29 PM
alright, back, 52 minutes in the day, 2 people at L-1.
ShadyK is, IMO, borderline scum/town.  I guess I'm ok with a lynch of him since we aren't in LYLO or pseudo-LYLO.
If no one has secured a lynch by 10 minutes left, should I hammer Shady to ensure one?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
Well no-lynch is obviously horrible here, so yeah :P
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - NIGHT 1
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 09:15:01 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (4) - ICE, Anthy, Affinity, Serela
I have no name (0) - 
Shadoweh (1) -  Dormio
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (4) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name, Shadoweh
ICE (0) -

Anthy is at L1
ShadyK is at L1

Not voting: No one


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in 45 minutes. High noon.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 05, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
I'm here. Kinda busy, though, so not much time to focus and write in-depth responses or anything, sorry.

ICE, why did ShadyK set up a breadcrumb at the start of the day when under no pressure from anybody other than his buddy? I still think that looks legitimate.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 05, 2012, 09:27:27 PM
This post?

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798926.html#msg798926

I... don't actually get any strong townie vibes from it at all. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
30 minutes.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Unless someone else steps in before then, hammer in 15 minutes.
(I'd still rather see Affinity or Anthy lynched)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 09:39:57 PM
DORMIO YOU FOXY SACK OF HAIRBALLS!

I can see you looking. O_O Pick a side!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 09:41:18 PM
I JUST GOT ON GO AWAY.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
I don't like either wagon. :/
Let me reread both of them.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
Wait. I need more sleep.
I thought the other wagon was on Affinity, not Anthy, and I was highly confused because of that.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 09:49:36 PM
We could quickwagon Affinity if that would help! /o/
You don't like Anthy after all?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 09:50:09 PM
10 minutes
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Serela on March 05, 2012, 09:51:38 PM
aghkjlgae Shadoweh we can't quickwagon anyone what are you talking about

Dormio vote or Shadoweh switch or IHNN switch whichever they all work

just like, do it, now
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 09:53:16 PM
There's no claim from either of them?
Or, rather, from Anthy? That's interesting.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Shadoweh on March 05, 2012, 09:53:54 PM
That was a joke mostly >_>
No, there isn't. Uhm. Anthy if you can claim in the next 10 minutes that'd be good.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 05, 2012, 09:54:02 PM
Writing up a post in HME, will hammer when I get back if not done already.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 05, 2012, 09:54:17 PM
##Unvote
##Vote Anthy

Whatever. My decision making may not be the best in the mornings, but let's do this.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 09:55:01 PM
Hammer shut up and i mean it
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 05, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (4) - ICE, Anthy, Affinity, Serela
I have no name (0) - 
Shadoweh (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
Anthy (5) - huhwhat, ShadyK, I have no name, Shadoweh, Dormio
ICE (0) -


Not voting: No one



The day came to a close once again and The Felt had determined the kill of the day, waiting to see if they had been deceived once more.
~~~~~~~~
They had.

Anthy, playing Sawbuck, The Felt Vanilla Member has been lynched Day 2.

It is now Night 2. You have 24 hours to send in any actions.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Night 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 06, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
Day broke again on the Mansion and everyone convened together to try and reason out who would be the next target. But there was another face gone and everyone knew that with the unsuccessful lynches before, today was their only chance to hit Midnight Crew before they would be outnumbered.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Shadoweh, playing Eggs, The Felt Neighbor was killed Night 2.

It is now LYLO. LYNCH OR LOSE.

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
ICE (0) -

Not Voting: Everyone

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends in 72 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3
Post by: Serela on March 06, 2012, 10:02:52 PM
Wait, you mean...

Erm, maybe I shouldn't keep trying this gambit :c It doesn't seem to work very well!!

I'm actually the ~*~town bulletproof~*~ and I thought I'd attract the NK if I claimed vig. But it sort of didn't happen.

I think I'll go sit in a corner and think about what I've done for a little while ;_; I'll be back later!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 06, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Heh.  I was thinking about the Midnight Crew a bit to try and figure out roles, and Eggs+Biscuits were who I thought Shadoweh and ICE where...if they were masons.
So apparently it's neighbors though, as I suggested.
Also, without a vig, there are 3 scum.

Affinity.  You are scummy.

ShadyK.  You said you were confused and bandwagoned your way through D2.
Serela.  The 'gambit' seemed to be a way to have you survive the day AND night. 
Both of you give me 2 good reasons why you aren't scum, and the role PM doesn't count.
Who do we lynch first?

Also, ICE, please explain why you implied/supported masons with Shadoweh when her lynch revealed otherwise.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 06, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
Also, Dormio, huh what, you are both rather unmemorable to me still. (although huh what you are rather town)
Same as for my scum picks, 2 reasons why you aren't.

In addition, who are your picks for scum team.

ICE... who do you think is the scum team?  Who is obvtown?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 06, 2012, 11:11:52 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYyBNEOP-Bk)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 06, 2012, 11:16:24 PM
To the fallen, especially Px,

BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yw1Tgj9-VU)

From,
ActionDan

All my tears
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 06, 2012, 11:20:19 PM
One of these days, Shadoweh will be as scummy as she has been for however many games it's been now. And she will actually be scum. One of these days...
Anyway!

##FoS I have no name
Tentative for now, post incoming hopefully before my next class.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 06, 2012, 11:36:16 PM
Serela is scum and dies today. I can explain why his revised claim is bullshit if necessary.

ICE is presumably a Town Neighbor. If he wasn't, scum would have known Shadoweh wasn't actually confirmed, and probably would have killed somebody else. I assume this is why they claimed Masons instead of Neighbors.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 06, 2012, 11:53:43 PM
Serela is scum and dies today. I can explain why his revised claim is bullshit if necessary.
Alternately, I can just make this a 1v1 to save everybody some time. vOv

##Vote Serela
Serela got verbally abused enough over a past gambit similiar to his current claim that he would never attempt something like this ever again.
Additionally, Die as bulletproof makes absolutely no sense in terms of flavor.
His claim was just an attempt to stall and get an extra mislynch in before entering LYLO. I would assume he's a Rolecop or something similiar (like scum watcher/tracker) and scum wanted his ability around for an extra night.
Everything I assaulted him for on D2 stands as well.
Serela is currently desperate scum and I'm certain enough of this that I'm willing to recklessly gamble our chances of winning on it. The bulletproof claim was presumably just for the sake of not giving up.

ShadyK.  You said you were confused and bandwagoned your way through D2.
Serela.  The 'gambit' seemed to be a way to have you survive the day AND night. 
Both of you give me 2 good reasons why you aren't scum, and the role PM doesn't count.
Who do we lynch first?
This is scummy and you are instantly scummier for suggesting we lynch anybody before Serela's flip. How the fuck can you claim ShadyK's D2 is on the same level of bad as Serela's current situation?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 07, 2012, 12:05:46 AM
This is scummy and you are instantly scummier for suggesting we lynch anybody before Serela's flip. How the fuck can you claim ShadyK's D2 is on the same level of bad as Serela's current situation?
Because I misunderstood the implications of what Serela said.
Also the 'who do we lynch first' shouldn't have been lumped with the ShadyK/Serela accusations, it got the wrong point across.

That said, ##Vote: Serela, now that someone who's played Mafia a lot more than I have has explained the implications of your claim-->"I lied", I know who's scummiest.


I'm scummier for trying to take an initiative for the town to lynch the scum?  I even gave reasons for my suspicions and everything this time.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Night 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 07, 2012, 12:11:11 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (2) -  huh what, i have no name
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
ICE (0) -

Serela is at L2

Not Voting: Dormio, Serela, ShadyK, Affinity, ICE

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends in 70 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 07, 2012, 12:11:35 AM
Well, Serela is obvscum. There was literally no valid reason to fakeclaim nightvig as town knowing it would screw up everybody's perception of the number of scum and other information about the set-up. Given how bad he looks at this point, it's suspicious that you'd try to get another player lynched over him in a situation where we lose instantly if we lynch a townie (though this would be rectified if ShadyK flipped scum, I suppose).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Affinity on March 07, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
Not buying Serela's claim for the obvious reasons, as the fakeclaim does not make sense from a townie's point of view.  If he was town, the three scum (due to it being a 7P LyLO) would probably have known that Serela was not a real nightvig since it was not psuedo-LyLO yesterday, and there was no way he would have been NK'ed.  Sounds more like an excuse for scum!Serela to live another night, and he is the only candidate to be lynched today.

huhwhat, I don't believe you have answered my question, but why is ShadyK town to you in your last collection of reads here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799850.html#msg799850) without elaboration other than the 'softclaim'?  Given that he was the major wagon yesterday other than Anthy, I'm not getting good vibes from the way you handwaved away the ShadyK wagon without looking into the (valid) reasons people had voted him for.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 12:31:13 AM
Additionally, Die as bulletproof makes absolutely no sense in terms of flavor.
Whenever someone tries to attack me, I stick their pin in the doll and stay in a timeline where they're dead for the rest of the night!

I can't aggressively use my power because the other timelines are too different in more then just one person's death.

Well, Serela is obvscum. There was literally no valid reason to fakeclaim nightvig as town knowing it would screw up everybody's perception of the number of scum and other information about the set-up.
Quote from: Affinity
If he was town, the three scum (due to it being a 7P LyLO) would probably have known that Serela was not a real nightvig since it was not psuedo-LyLO yesterday, and there was no way he would have been NK'ed.
I didn't realize this ;_;

I bet ICE is third party neighbor because :psyduck:
##Vote ICE
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 07, 2012, 12:51:54 AM
huhwhat, I don't believe you have answered my question, but why is ShadyK town to you in your last collection of reads here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799850.html#msg799850) without elaboration other than the 'softclaim'?  Given that he was the major wagon yesterday other than Anthy, I'm not getting good vibes from the way you handwaved away the ShadyK wagon without looking into the (valid) reasons people had voted him for.
The reason I trusted the softclaim is because I had trouble believing newbscum would think to set up a breadcrumb at the start of the day when only under one vote. It would have been totally overreactionary and only served to draw attention when he turns up alive and not roleblocked on a later day.

Claims aside, you were the only player with any sort of "weighty" vote on ShadyK yesterday, and I disagree that ShadyK was switching between wagons with little-to-no explanation like you said he and Nameless were. I was under the impression that his switch back to Nameless from Serela in his #459 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799206.html#msg799206) was being justified by his response to Nameless' #452 in the same post. His dislike for Anthy was telegraphed throughout the game and his town read of Nameless was telegraphed by his prior unvote, so the Anthy switch doesn't seem especially contrived either.

As for your initial D1 vote on him, I... did not get the sense he was trying to hide behind stronger players from his rawr / Anthy / PX shifting! I question how playing "wait and see" would be particularly fitting for scum's agenda when the main targets of the day were all townies who scum had no information on. This was at a point in the day where taking a solid stance earlier on would actually be less likely to get him nailed for it, due to town's preference of targeting later wagon jumpers while scumhunting. I'm not sure what benifit scum would have had from waiting out the rawr / Anthy / PX wagons at the time. IMO the context makes it a null tell for his alignment.

Overall, I didn't see much stock in the case on him - everything he was getting poked over was stuff I regarded as null. My opinion on the "Affinity is totally not my scumbuddy" post was already explained when the post was being pressed. I... should probably reconsider his alignment in light of the Serela situation, though. I haven't re-read since the start of the day, only got home from school recently.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:25:24 AM
Because we both had very strong town reads on each other, and we both like gambiting.  We figured we could keep the fire off of the other town power roles, at least until the scum figured out what the game was. 

Poor Holy, did you expect to be shooting actual town power with that shot? 

Anyway, anyone see a reason not to lynch Serela here?  Bulletproof is a scum claim in the best of times and today is... not the best of times. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:26:47 AM
Oh fluff this.

She throws down her vote in LyLo?

Serela, you pick that vote up, and you think about how honking ~*~silly~*~ you are, okay?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:27:13 AM
I'm sorry, SILLY
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:31:49 AM
I'm thinking I'm being rushed through LyLo.

I dun like it -_-
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
OH WHOOPS

Sorry ICE, I didn't realize what I was doing. You have touched my heart and I have seen the light.

##Unvote

I see a reason not to lynch me! I'm not scum, of course. I thought you knew this yesterday? Oh, how the times have changed, and how I long for yesterday.

...wait, what am I saying? I have no heart.

##Vote ICE

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:35:15 AM
That being said, if Serela is town, she's literally like... the DrMyShotty of MotK.

Serela, why do you think that I'm a THIRD PARTY neighbor of all things?

Not scum... third party?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 01:36:05 AM
I don't actually think you're a third party, that's my job!

Of course, I might be able to change my mind if you give me a convincing case on the matter :3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:37:08 AM
OH WHOOPS

Sorry ICE, I didn't realize what I was doing. You have touched my heart and I have seen the light.

##Unvote

I see a reason not to lynch me! I'm not scum, of course. I thought you knew this yesterday? Oh, how the times have changed, and how I long for yesterday.

...wait, what am I saying? I have no heart.

##Vote ICE

The organ you are missing is a tad higher. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:39:18 AM
I don't actually think you're a third party, that's my job!

Of course, I might be able to change my mind if you give me a convincing case on the matter :3
Let's start simple.

It's LyLo.

Lynch or Lose.

What do you think of the two vote bandwagon on you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 01:43:41 AM
Hmmm... well, I have no name seems to be sheeping huh what! Does that mean Huhwhat is Little Bo Peep?

No no no, that's Zakeri, that can't be right.

Oh yeah, Lylo! It says lynch in big green letters! And Lose in red! Ooooooh... I see what you mean. I had it all wrong!

We're supposed to lynch town or we'll lose! Color coding is so nifty.

##Unvote
##Vote Dormio
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:44:21 AM
Thanks.

Vote: Serela
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Night 2
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 07, 2012, 01:45:58 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (1) -  Serela
Serela (3) -  huh what, i have no name, ICE
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
ICE (0) -

Serela is at L1

Not Voting: Dormio, ShadyK, Affinity

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends in 70 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:47:35 AM
Second is nameless, his post was 'oh shit, we missed a town power role.'

Third is... hmmm...

Affinity or ShadyK.

Try to do a setup analysis on the mass claim tomorrow, this should be easily breakable assuming halfway competent setup.

Mass claim today serves no purpose, as I basically just die here.

Do NOT speed lynch a guilty from someone tomorrow, no matter how fluffin' town they are.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:48:05 AM
Could be holy what, LyLo bussing has a huuuuuggeee success rate for very good reasons.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 01:50:12 AM
You silly! That's not how lylo works.

We're all supposed massclaim so that we can be sure to make a well-educated decision!

I'll even go first <3 Now, no lying! No takebacksies!

I'm Doc Scratch. I really am bulletproof! It's rather inconvenient, you see. In order to fulfill my win condition and summon my master, I have to die, you see! Snowman has to die first, but that's been conveniently taken care of for me, so it's been just lovely, but I must depart now! Ta!

Of course, it'd be rude to hammer myself. I should let someone else have the honors. This isn't because one of my jester restrictions is that I can't vote myself, nosiree.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 01:50:42 AM
Yeah okay.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 07, 2012, 01:53:48 AM
Okay I guess that's enough silliness out of me from this game. I've gotten it all out of my system, in any case.

##Unvote
##Vote Serela

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 07, 2012, 01:55:22 AM
I'm Doc Scratch.
Lies, because:
I'll be your host and mod, Hanged Lord Hourai English. Doc Kitten4UScratch will also be co-modding.

Second is nameless, his post was 'oh shit, we missed a town power role.'
uhhhh....sorry to burst your bubble, but no, it wasn't.  IF I were scum, I'd have petitioned a NK on Serela yesterday (before today, because I didn't know Serela was lying until today, although I suspected it yesterday), due to being a power role.  Also scum NKing Shadoweh is good for them because only Dormio thought she could have been scum at the time, so they aren't getting rid of someone we suspect, narrowing the pool down.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Kitten4u on March 07, 2012, 02:00:50 AM
HAMMER, SHUT UP AND WAIT FOR HOURAI
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 07, 2012, 06:16:18 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
Dormio (0) - 
Serela (4) -  huh what, i have no name, ICE, Serela
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
ICE (0) -


Not Voting: Dormio, ShadyK, Affinity



~~~~~~~~~~~
Deliberation continued as the aguments heated up. Back and forth, incessant talking and chattering was all that could be heard. Between all the yelling and noise, one member spoke up in a rage.

"Screw this, I'm done pussyfooting around with you idiots."

Pulling the crowbar that once belonged to Crowbar, he shoved it under his jaw, impaling it through the top of his head. He was revealed to indeed be a Midnight Crew member in disguise as a Felt Member. With all that was said and done, everyone decided it was best to end their day there and ponder over the events that had just transpired in hopes of finding a connection to the rest of his gang.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Serela, playing Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker was lynched Day 3.

It is now Night 3. You have 16 hours to submit any night actions.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 07, 2012, 10:13:39 PM
Everyone was still unsettled by the past day's events and the new morning brought new opportunities for The Felt. Although it had began as most expected.
~~~~~~~~~~

Dormio, playing Stitch, The Felt Resident Tailor was killed Night 3.

LYLO


VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (0) -
ICE (0) -



Not Voting: Everyone

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends in 72 hours.



Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 07, 2012, 10:28:29 PM
Welp. Balls.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 07, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
This...was exactly the result I expected actually.  Everyone left has been suspected of being scum now, and the scum lynched an experienced player, leaving more clueless town and scum suspects.

Affinity.  You are scummy.
ShadyK.  You said you were confused and bandwagoned your way through D2.
ShadyK, you didn't post at all D3.  I won't hold it against you as you weren't even here.
Affinity, you posted once.  You knew Serela was scum then, but didn't vote.  Why?

I still want those reasons why you aren't scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 07, 2012, 11:57:10 PM
Shut up.

Rapid fire mass claim, popcorn style.

Affinity claims in next post, then selects next person.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Affinity on March 08, 2012, 01:57:25 AM
Quarters, #14, Felt Vanilla Member.

ShadyK should claim next.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 03:16:56 AM
Oho quite the eventful days we've had.  Alright claiming time eh?

Alright I'm Fin, #5, Felt Trailmaster.  I can follow the trails of each person every other night to see who they visited.  On n1 I tried to follow Anthy but I was in fact blocked by someone.  Seeing as Serela had roleblock there's a good chance it was him but perhaps the other scum has the same power.  On n3 I followed noname who didnt visit anyone which makes him a good probablity of being town.  Alright so I think huhwhat should claim next.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 03:34:10 AM
Shady, just out of curiousity did you try to follow anyone N2?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
I'm Clover. Due to my immense luck, I of course ended up with the strongest mafia role, Kevorkian Doctor Jesus Who Is Also Secretly A Town Bulletproof Vanilla Townie. So yeah, The Felt Vanilla Member.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 03:40:13 AM
Shady, just out of curiousity did you try to follow anyone N2?
I said it was every other night so I was unable to follow on n2
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 03:44:50 AM
I said it was every other night so I was unable to follow on n2
I missed that part, I was too busy thinking "wait, wouldn't Trace be the trailsmaster?".  So I went and checked MSPA and saw both could fit the role.
Since huh what didn't specify who next, I'll go.

I'm Doze, Vanilla Felt Member.

ICE?


I'm Clover. Due to my immense luck, I of course ended up with the strongest mafia role, Kevorkian Doctor Jesus Who Is Also Secretly A Town Bulletproof Vanilla Townie. So yeah, The Felt Vanilla Member.
I'd think that Clover would be bulletproof flavorwise because http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003226
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 03:46:27 AM
I'd think that Clover would be bulletproof flavorwise because http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003226
So would I, but vOv.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 03:52:52 AM
Oh wait, scum have the option to not nightkill. That makes this gambit pointless.

I am indeed the town bulletproof. Rolename is The Felt Riddler.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 04:42:25 AM
Affinity is scummy according to basic vote count analysis - he started out D2 voting ShadyK, but switched to Nameless when the Serela wagon accumulated a significant votes and a Nameless lynch had more support than a ShadyK lynch. This looks like a pretty blatant attempt to save the roleblocker. Additionally, a quick search of his D1 posts shows instances of "but why not Serela?" here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg797505.html#msg797505) and here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg798239.html#msg798239), but there are no examples of Affinity actually following up with on the dirt he had on Serela further into the game. The IRL pass Serela received from Affinity on D2 seems contrived when you consider that Affinity gave Serela no grace for being scummy back when Serela was not an actual wagon target.

Nameless' reluctance to put Serela at L-1 in his #492 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799423.html#msg799423) could be interpreted as a desire not to bus the team's roleblocker as well. His actual reasons for pressing Serela were terrible for being improperly-used meta, and were not even consistent - just a few posts ago, Nameless had claimed that Serela was one of his greatest town reads. Last minute distancing? I'd like Nameless to explain what his thought processes regarding Serela were throughout D2.

ShadyK's roleclaim checks out with his softclaim on D2 (which I believe), and I have trouble believing Serela would push him to L-1 when Serela was already going to get lynched in LYLO regardless of town cred. ICE is town because of Shadoweh's death and his interactions with Serela on D3, which don't look orchestrated to me.

Affinity looks the worst to me right now and I'd prefer to lynch him today. PoE points to Nameless as his buddy, and there was some weirdness going on with Nameless and Serela too. I don't think Nameless being scum would devalue the main points on scum!Affinity (pushing Nameless's wagon as a counter to Serela), either, given that Affinity and Serela have histories of abusing bussing and Nameless is presumably a not an active role if scum with anybody other than ShadyK. A D2 Nameless bus seems pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 04:51:06 AM
the IRL pass Serela received from Affinity on D2 seems contrived when you consider that Affinity gave Serela no grace for being scummy back when Serela was not an actual wagon target.
Keep in mind Affinity didn't give me an IRL pass the same day.  Also I've been saying Affinity is scummy for a while now.  If I were scum, I wouldn't be trying to get rid of him.
Nameless' reluctance to put Serela at L-1 in his #492 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799423.html#msg799423) could be interpreted as a desire not to bus the team's roleblocker as well.
I'll admit that trying to use other games as reasoning for why is stupid and that's I wasn't thinking then.  However, I didn't want a quicklynch of anyone at the time and putting someone at L-1 enables that.  If Serela were town (something that, even despite a scumread at the time, I kept in mind as a possibility since I was confused), the scum could quickhammer.
just a few posts ago, Nameless had claimed that Serela was one of his greatest town reads. Last minute distancing? I'd like Nameless to explain what his thought processes regarding Serela were throughout D2.
Serela throughout D2...I kept flipping back and forth on almost everybody, I was confused through most of the day.  I do remember that late D2 I honestly thought Serela was town though.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 04:56:27 AM
Keep in mind Affinity didn't give me an IRL pass the same day.  Also I've been saying Affinity is scummy for a while now.  If I were scum, I wouldn't be trying to get rid of him.
I would link you to the MafiaScum wiki article on bussing, presumably followed by a link to nope.avi, but the wiki unfortunately appears to be down.

Your D2 attacks on Affinity did nothing to actually get him lynched or convince other people vote him, so you receive no town cred for it.

However, I didn't want a quicklynch of anyone at the time and putting someone at L-1 enables that.  If Serela were town (something that, even despite a scumread at the time, I kept in mind as a possibility since I was confused), the scum could quickhammer.
Scum don't quicklynch outside of LYLO unless by mistake. Townies don't quicklynch unless by mistake either, and mistakes are both rare and can be circumvented by claiming your target is at L-1 when you vote them. Not seeing a good reason for you to avoid actually pressuring Serela when you thought he was scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 04:58:00 AM
I'll chalk up those mistakes to being a noob at this then.
Scum don't quicklynch outside of LYLO unless by mistake. Townies don't quicklynch unless by mistake either, and mistakes are both rare and can be circumvented by claiming your target is at L-1 when you vote them. Not seeing a good reason for you to avoid actually pressuring Serela when you thought he was scum.
Case in point.  I was supposed to know this, on my first play, how?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 05:00:27 AM
Well, generally, it's good to lurk mafia games and read archives before joining any. That aside, there were ways you could have pressed Serela other than voting him, even though voting would have been preferable. You just kind of dropped the issue after your L-1 threat.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 05:03:23 AM
Well, generally, it's good to lurk mafia games and read archives before joining any.
I kind of jumped into this one after following IMP Mafia because I thought it looked fun.
I realized reading archives was a good idea midway through, which only served to confuse me more.

I'm not going to defend any part of my D2 as there's really no defense other than "I was confused" and "I had IRL stuff going on"
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 05:04:22 AM
I can see we're not going to get any further with this, then. I want to hear from Affinity.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 05:55:34 AM
I missed that part, I was too busy thinking "wait, wouldn't Trace be the trailsmaster?".  So I went and checked MSPA and saw both could fit the role.
Since huh what didn't specify who next, I'll go.

I'm Doze, Vanilla Felt Member.

ICE?

I'd think that Clover would be bulletproof flavorwise because http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003226

Biscuits, Town Neighbor.

ShadyK is now confirmed town.  There's simply no goddamn way that the scum have a roleblocker and the town comes equipped with "a bomb," "a guy who knows that there's a bomb," a "tailor" (flavor cop I assume, as the other meaning of that role is mafia-exclusive), and a pair of neighbors who like as not will both get lynched on the "one of them has GOT to be scum" meta.

Soooo, Huh what, Nameless, and Affinity, one of you is town.

Haha.

Spoilers.

It's nameless, neh?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:10:18 AM
Stitch's profession is a tailor. Roles so far have all seemed pretty tied to flavor, so I'd assume he was some sort of protective role - in the actual Homestuck intermission, he can heal wounds of the rest of The Felt by repairing effigies of them, so if I had to guess I'd say Doc. Probably nerfed from standard in some way, as all claimed roles except the neighbors and my own have been (though we have no idea what Dan was beyond informed).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 06:18:02 AM
Oh wait, scum have the option to not nightkill. That makes this gambit pointless.

I am indeed the town bulletproof. Rolename is The Felt Riddler.
Okay.

Explain why the claim changed and what the gambit was.

Unless you think anyone would really shoot you.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 06:20:42 AM
Oh wait, what am I doing here -_-

If nameless and huh what are on the same scumteam they deserve the win.  That sort of sniping among scumbuddies when one of them is totally inexperienced?

ShadyK is town

So that leaves...

Vote: Affinity
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:27:33 AM
Okay.

Explain why the claim changed and what the gambit was.

Unless you think anyone would really shoot you.
Was hoping scum would shoot me and confirming me at town N4. It wasn't particularly likely, but I was on Serela all of D2 enough that it was possibly if they thought they'd have the lowest chance of of convincing and/or lynching me for whatever reason. Claiming it outright immediately would have been a waste.

Only that didn't matter because I wouldn't be confirmed town if I got shot, since scum can No Kill.

I breadcrumbed actually being town BP when I claimed Vanilla (see strikethrough in that post), and being BP was one reason I was willing to make the initial vote on Serela during D3, though there was enough against him even without it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:27:54 AM
*and confirm me as town
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 06:31:14 AM
Just realized Affinity claimed one of the Felt who's never shown.  Somehow, given the flips+other claims, I doubt one of them was actually given as a role.
Vote: Affinity

FoS huh what
Claim-changing off of a gambit...you saw what happened to your buddy Serela when he tried that, and you changed your claim to match what I guessed off of flavor.  (after cut)  Looks like you thought it through a little bit better than "I'm Die, and I finally rolled vig!"  That reminds me, didn't Serela get the 'Doctor Jesus+oneshot dayvig' role in IMP Mafia?

Although honestly last 3 alive are probably going to be me, ICE and huh what, with votes on each other, leaving me with a 50% chance of guessing right.  Just like I thought would happen but hoped wouldn't.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:31:36 AM
As for the flavor, Clover is incredibly lucky and any attempts to kill him will fail.

To expand on the breadcrumb, Kevorkian Doctor Jesus was basically my role last game (doc that lost powers by suiciding and returning in 72 hours then vigging immediately, hence kevorkian doctor + jesus roles). Bulletproof was not part of my role last game, I specifically added it in to crumb that I was lying about my VT claim in case it was necessary.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Forgot the '#'s in my last vote.
##Vote: Affinity

As for the flavor, Clover is incredibly lucky and any attempts to kill him will fail.
As I mentioned.
To expand on the breadcrumb, Kevorkian Doctor Jesus was basically my role last game (doc that lost powers by suiciding and returning in 72 hours then vigging immediately, hence kevorkian doctor + jesus roles). Bulletproof was not part of my role last game, I specifically added it in to crumb that I was lying about my VT claim in case it was necessary.
Ah, so it was you, not Serela.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:34:45 AM
Lack of quickhammer means Affinity is scum.

Anything we're waiting on before I should go ahead and end the day? I'd like to hear some last opinions from GreyICE, if any, since he's probably dying tonight.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:36:06 AM
...okay, well, ICE/Nameless could be buddies, I guess, but I strongly doubt that. <_<

Nameless, I didn't change my claim in response to you because I had already secretly claimed Bulletproof in my initial claimpost. That's what breadcrumbs are for.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 06:37:42 AM
...okay, well, ICE/Nameless could be buddies, I guess, but I strongly doubt that. <_<
Yeah there's no way that's possible at all.  If Affinity isn't scum then I just dont know who is >.>
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 06:40:05 AM
Nameless, I didn't change my claim in response to you because I had already secretly claimed Bulletproof in my initial claimpost. That's what breadcrumbs are for.
Huh.  Must have missed that.  Somehow.
Anything we're waiting on before I should go ahead and end the day? I'd like to hear some last opinions from GreyICE, if any, since he's probably dying tonight.
I'd like to see Shady's opinion on the massclaim, since I figure the scum are more likely to kill confirmed town (unless I missed something obvious and ICE is also confirmed town)
ok then.  I guess that took care of itself.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 06:43:04 AM
Oh, just thought I'd mention I'm not going to be around at the start of tomorrow, being 2 AM or later and all that.  I should be able to see what I missed by noon though (going to be AFK Friday 2 AM-->Friday noon, missing the first 10 hours of D5)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:44:05 AM
Pull a Bard and tell the mod to end the night early when you send in the kill then :T
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 08, 2012, 06:46:03 AM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (0) - 
Affinity (2) - ICE, i have no name
ICE (0) -

Affinity is at L1


Not Voting: ShadyK, Affinity, huh what

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends in ~63 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 06:46:24 AM
Pull a Bard and tell the mod to end the night early when you send in the kill then :T
Now how I could I do that seeing as I'm town.
We could just postpone the lynch until after I wake up  :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 06:57:16 AM
Although honestly last 3 alive are probably going to be me, ICE and huh what, with votes on each other, leaving me with a 50% chance of guessing right.  Just like I thought would happen but hoped wouldn't.
Why kill ShadyK over ICE? I don't think anybody seriously buys ICE as scum at this point. I've considered him obvtown all game, and you seem intent on lynching me.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:02:28 AM
You know how first impressions stick?  This is sort of like that.  I figured the final day would come down to something like that, and then stuff happened but it could still turn out like that even though it wouldn't.
and now I'm rambling.  This is what happens when I post while tired but I need to wait a half hour to go to sleep because I'm waiting on a video appendage so I can queue up 5 for compression overnight.

Also remember my first impression of ICE was 'don't like him, scummy'.  That sticks even though after my reread I realized the scummy part was due to disliking playstyle (which by the way is no longer applicable anyway).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:03:33 AM
Okay at this point shady K and huh what have both posted with affinity at L-1

Some days you know you made a good choice ^_^

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 07:04:34 AM
If anything the scum would leave me alive since I'm so useless in the discussions anyway :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:07:03 AM
<_<

It feels like you said that to trap me. I can't tell if you're just setting things up so when ICE dies tonight, you can try to invoke something along the lines of "oh whoops i was wrong about the nk, guess i can't be scum Vote Huh What", or if you're just a herp who gave away the scum gameplan. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

ICE: Any last thoughts, or would you rather leave it at this and just hammer now? I don't think there's anybody else for us to hear from (aside from Affinity, lol).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:14:03 AM
The expected value of discussing optimal scum night kill choices approaches negative infinity.

As for last thoughts, here are mine:
Neighbors barely count as a power role, as vanilla.  Sure, me and shadoweh made nigh-on optimal use of them, but it's still no more than two townies with bulletproof reads on each other could manage.

Bomb/bomb confirmer/ tailor (doc? Weak doc?  Flavor cop?) is just too little.

Bulletproof is a scum claim, except during mass claim, which is now.

Hmmm....

Actually...

##unvote

Can you give me a day to reread?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:18:51 AM
Shrug. If you think you can make good use of more time today, then go for it.

If Dormio was a Weak Doc, we'd have been in LYLO earlier.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:19:14 AM
(LYLO meaning a form of it, not actual LYLO)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:21:33 AM
Weak is one of the modifier pages I remember reading before the wiki went down :derp:
What does it do again?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
If you target scum, you die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Affinity on March 08, 2012, 07:44:00 AM
.___________________.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 08:22:55 AM
What, your approach to day 1. 

What was it?

Because lemme follow the logic.  I'm town bulletproof.  Not even limited shot.  Just... Bulletproof.

Man, I'm gonna be the towniest town that ever did town.  I'm gonna slip breadcrumb, I'm gonna get in people's faces, I'm gonna shake my big town wang and give everyone mushroom tattoos.

So, you just said you like to gambit.  What was your gambit day 1 to get scum to shoot you?  Day 2?  Because based on yur day 1/2 play, I'd have said that you were like, maybe on a town vigilante's kill list, but certainly not scums'.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 08:23:58 AM
.___________________.
Sorry, but one serela was quite enough~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 08:45:31 AM
I'm generally not a hyper-aggressive player but I did what I could to push my opinions, though I was probably lacking during D1 since I was busy then (particularly early on) and naturally environmental factors are going to limit my play. I tried to come off stronger on D2, though whether I was succesful or not was probably subjective (I think I did a decent job pushing for Serela's death, though it ended up being pointless due to his stallclaim). I definitely  wouldn't consider myself to have been a good vig target this game unless the vig was retarded.

I didn't think about breadcrumbing an important PR, but I'll have to keep that in mind. This is my first time rolling BP (one time I rolled self-revive-on-NK but I didn't play specially there at all and still got shot, also it was ages ago and I was bad :shrug:) and I've never actually seen that done before.

I never said I liked to gambit, I'm typically indifferent about them (with some exceptions, I guess). I fakeclaimed VT because claiming BP tends to make BP worthless, even if there's only one more chance for me to get shot. Yes, I classified it as a gambit, but that's not the same as saying "I LIKE TO GAMBIT".
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 09:22:47 AM
I'm going to bed in 40 minutes because I'm cold and fucking exhausted, and I would rather not wake up to being quickhammered. If there's anything you want to ask me ASAP, now's the time to ask it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
I'm going to bed. I have nothing more to say tonight since no more questions have been asked and there's little more for me to add. ICE's post strikes me more as "you suck at town" than "you're scum fakeclaiming BP", which is irritating since I don't believe my town play has been horrible this game, but ugh, whatever.

I'm going to ##Vote I have no name before I leave.

Even without any sort of individual scumminess from Nameless, ICE is town for a number of reasons, and ShadyK I don't buy as scum for both ICE's role speculation and Serela's L-1 vote on him from D2 (plus, there's the whole "nobody else ever implied they were roleblocked" thing, for whatever that's worth in this set-up). Affinity might as well be claimed scum at this point. I can't imagine the game is going to come down to anything but this no matter what happens, and I think it'd be better to solve this issue while we have two townies around instead of one, since that way scum can't just NK whoever is more on the mark. I've been thinking, and given the claims we have on the table, I don't really see a downside to this... unless knowledge of Affinity's role ends up being critical, in which case it's not too late to lynch him.

I'll re-read with scum!Affinity fully in mind and post what I've got in the morning. However, I'm probably going to busy with school during most of tomorrow and the first half of Friday, resulting in less opportunities to post (will be home but occupied tomorrow, will be gone early Friday).
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Tricksie ponies.

Were I to base this solely on play, it'd be 110% nameless.

Of course mafia is a team game.  And certain things make me iffy.

Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Affinity (1) - I have no name

Nameless scum means this day is weird to the point of being nigh on inexplicable.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 02:14:53 PM
I mean literally

When a wagon is building on scum.

The entire scumteam decided to self vote.

Yet, hmmm... once Serela committed delayed suicide with her vig claim, the Nameless wagon evaporated like smoke over water.   Affinity jumped ship, and so did Serela, once again for the same wagon.  Why jump ship?  Nameless was a fine place for scum to vote park... unless a nameless lynch and a Serela lynch left Affinity flying solo with veewwwy few people thinking he's town.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:10:45 PM
Serela was a roleblocker, and you generally want those guys around in a bastard game. I don't think it's unreasonable that scum's plan was to bus Nameless, get Serela enough cred to survive, then coast to win. Nameless was the most likely to end up a liability due to inexperience. Due to ShadyK's result, we already know that scum!Nameless has a passive role (...or is a Ninja, I guess, but with the tracker so nerfed, I wouldn't regard that as likely), so presumably he wouldn't be anything too big of a loss for scum. Bomb in particular is a notable possibility for his role, since Dan implied there are multiple bombs.

I think the proposed "bus Nameless" plan makes more sense given Nameless' late day actions. He pretty much would have been voting all his buddies, which makes sense if he expected to die and wanted to attempt last minute distancing. Note that he was actually pretty reserved about voting Serela and Affinity earlier in the day, and how his switch to Serela had very awkward/forced reasoning. If the plan was to bus Nameless, then that's another reason that he wouldn't actually be willing to put Serela to L-1 as scum.

This post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799903.html#msg799903) is notable as well. He wanted either Affinity or Anthy lynched, but he did absolutely nothing to push for Affinity's lynch despite voting Affinity, instead just going along with the Anthy wagon. Since Serela was dead at the time, lynching Affinity would have resulted in Nameless having to solo the rest of the game following Serela's death, giving him a fair reason to not attempt to get the lynch he apparently desired.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:15:00 PM
Also, Serela and Affinity both have histories of lynching their buddies very often, for whatever that's worth. <_< Serela in particular has trouble voting anybody other than his buddies as scum, which makes a "bus Nameless" plan seem more reasonable to me. Pretty much all of his attacks on other players but his Nameless vote this game were terrible (and even the Nameless vote didn't look that great).

:metaarguments:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:27:34 PM
Okay, here's my review.

First, and short: ShadyK is town.  That's out of the way.  As Holy What noted, Serela/Affinity diving onto ShadyK when Dormio (town) had the hammer choice would have been nigh on suicidal had Dormio hammered scum that day.  Serela would have died the next day, and Affinity would have two days alone with virtually no one thinking he's town.  Fate, yeah, sure, but Affinity doesn't play scum like that.   Second, claim is hella town.  Third, Shadoweh was convinced he was town, I was convinced he was scum.  If you have to shoot a mason, and one of them thinks your scumbuddy is town, one of them doesn't, you shoot the one tunneling scum.  The shots have all been following a reasonably predictable pattern.

Action Dan - basically confirmed town, may have had more to power role not disclosed (hi bastard mod). 
Shadoweh - Confirmed (As far as they knew) town, suspicious of Affinity, almost impossible to lynch (don't take Masons into LyLo)
Dormio - wild card, strong town read that had little input, and so was tough to read in LyLo. 

Safe, safe, safe shots.  This is a scumteam that likes to play it safe.  Lurk, distance, shoot confirmed/obvious town, and try and get by.  No imagination. 

-----

Holy What versus nameless

The more I look at it, the more I lean nameless.  I can feel LLD screaming at me "bulletproof is a scum claim ICE, you say it EVERY TIME SOMEONE CLAIMS BULLETPROOF YOU DUMBASS" and she's right, but... *sigh* 

She's right, and I want to ignore it anyway.  Holy What, if he's scum, has played quite a good scum game.  This isn't consistent with claim alteration during MC with a derptastic breadcrumb.  Holy What, if he's town, has played a middle-of-the-road town game with some stellar moments and poor moments, the best you can ask for out of town, and quite consistent with someone uncomfortable with gambiting pulling a gambit.

This line is utterly damning, IMHO:
Serela is scum and dies today. I can explain why his revised claim is bullshit if necessary.

That's... pretty much exactly the reaction I'd expect from town if their role had just been claimed.   That sort of definitive, no nonsense, "thank you for claiming scum, die now."

The best part is that Holy What didn't even bother to announce it.

So for Holy What to be scum, he had to:

- Bus his own scumbuddy in a way that SCREAMS (in retrospect) "I just had my role claimed"
- Decide to, during mass claim, fakeclaim VT with a lousy breadcrumb, rather than scream "SERELA CLAIMED MY ROLE AND I KILLED HER, LOOK HOW AWESOME I AM!"
- Forget that he had more or less screamed "Oh my god, I so got counterclaimed" and offer me a derpy explanation.


Verdict: Affinity+Nameless scumteam


Do I have the balls to put my money where my mouth is and vote nameless, with Affinity confirmed scum?

Perhaps.

I want to hear what more people not affinity have to say.


Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
So much discussion of how things went under the assumption I'm scum >.>

Well, since that's out of the way, why not go through the game again under the assumption that other survivors were scum?
Bomb in particular is a notable possibility for his role, since Dan implied there are multiple bombs.
If I'm a scum bomb then town loses if I go first.  Of course worrying about that is null due to me being Vanilla town.

This post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12167.msg799903.html#msg799903) is notable as well. He wanted either Affinity or Anthy lynched, but he did absolutely nothing to push for Affinity's lynch despite voting Affinity, instead just going along with the Anthy wagon. Since Serela was dead at the time, lynching Affinity would have resulted in Nameless having to solo the rest of the game following Serela's death, giving him a fair reason to not attempt to get the lynch he apparently desired.
That was D2.  I didn't think Affinity had any chance of being lynched at the time, so I went with my other scum-pick.  Also I was confused then.

Also, Serela and Affinity both have histories of lynching their buddies very often, for whatever that's worth. <_< Serela in particular has trouble voting anybody other than his buddies as scum, which makes a "bus Nameless" plan seem more reasonable to me. Pretty much all of his attacks on other players but his Nameless vote this game were terrible (and even the Nameless vote didn't look that great).

:metaarguments:
Hypocritical.  You got mad at me for supposedly using meta to incriminate Serela, and now you're using player history to 'prove' that I'm scum.

Were I to base this solely on play, it'd be 110% nameless.
>.>
Of course mafia is a team game.  And certain things make me iffy.
Yes listen to this wise man.
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
I have no name (2) -  Affinity, Serela
Affinity (1) - I have no name
FTFY.  I see this more as scum going "ok, everyone thinks there's 2 scum, so which town do we vote on...let's go with the one most likely to be mis-lynched!"
Nameless scum means this day is weird to the point of being nigh on inexplicable.
ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner.  If I were scum, this would have gone down soooo much differently.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:35:26 PM
Also ICE thank you for spelling out exactly why huh what is scum ^_^
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
Oh fuck it.

If we lose, I claim full and 100% responsibility.  No one else did this.  Sure, some people could have played better, but if the town loses at this juncture, it is my fault.

Vote: Nameless

Holy What, if you're scum, I compliment you on an amazing game.  Simply amazing.  That bit with Serela was so just 'I have been counterclaimed,' not even trumpeting it, the way you have played slightly off-key town instead of obvious scum, the ActionDan shot when Dan went out wanting nameless dead, I honestly can't find reasons to call you scum.  Even with a bulletproof claim, and I HATE THOSE from the bottom of my heart. 

*holds breath and waits*
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:42:00 PM
You have 2 choices.
Unvote or lose as Affinity quickhammers.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:43:12 PM
I say get rid of Affinity now then target the last scum D5.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 07:43:58 PM
Wait are you guys saying even though I tracked noname last night and he didnt visit the nk that he's still scum?  I guess that could be a scum power being able to not be tracked but Im having a hard time believing that if this is the case.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
You have 2 choices.
Unvote or lose as Affinity quickhammers.
If we don't lynch scum two days in a row, I lose anyway. 

ShadyK: Either member of the scumteam could have submitted the kill.

BTW, congrats on confirmed town status.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:46:53 PM
Hmmm...

GRRRRRRRRR

Unvote
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:47:29 PM
If we don't lynch scum two days in a row, I lose anyway. 
I know that.  But Affinity's role could help get the last one, as you yourself said.
Unvote
DON'T FORGET THE '#'s
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 07:48:53 PM
##Unvote

Affinity's role isn't going to help with anything.

All it's going to show is that Affinity is affinity.

Nameless, who are eggs and biscuit?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
Oh I just now realized that there are 2 scum left and not one...
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
Nameless, who are eggs and biscuit?
Eggs and Biscuits are 12 and 13 of the felt (due to dozen and baker's dozen). 
Biscuits has an oven that he hides in then comes out of that travels through time at "1 second per second, just like everyone else"
Eggs has a timer that, when it goes off, takes him back to when it was set.
He uses this to bring Biscuits back creating an unstable time loop in which there are dozens of Eggs's and Biscuits's.  Hearts Boxcars (Midnight Crew member) ends the silliness by eating Eggs's head.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
Relevant part of Homestuck: http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003123
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
If I'm a scum bomb then town loses if I go first.  Of course worrying about that is null due to me being Vanilla town.
I say get rid of Affinity now then target the last scum D5.
First of all, scum powers with extra kills are usually turned off in LYLO to prevent town from losing by not being as right as they could be.

Second, you're trying to stall and get Affinity lynched so you can eave the decision up to the guy less likely to lynch you. <_< We're settling this here and now.

Hypocritical.  You got mad at me for supposedly using meta to incriminate Serela, and now you're using player history to 'prove' that I'm scum.
Your meta on Serela was based on scum who weren't Serela in an entirely different game situation. The meta you used was irrelevant to Serela's alignment. The meta I provided was relevant to the play of Affinity and Serela.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
Second, you're trying to stall and get Affinity lynched so you can eave the decision up to the guy less likely to lynch you. <_<
I'll admit this is true because I don't to lose because the scum framed me, I'd rather try to win and I can't do that if I'm mis-lynched.


let's see, what did Shadoweh have as her custom title during IMP Mafia?  Ah right,
TOWNIE OBVTOWN DAMMIT
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 08:04:55 PM
That doesn't work if you're town, because then scum is perfectly capable of, you know, shooting the guy less likely to lynch you. You only control the kill if you're scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 08, 2012, 08:05:49 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  huhwhat
Affinity (1) -  i have no name
ICE (0) -




Not Voting: ShadyK, Affinity, ICE

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends in ~50 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 08:07:02 PM
That doesn't work if you're town, because then scum is perfectly capable of, you know, shooting the guy less likely to lynch you. You only control the kill if you're scum.
Well yeah.  You know I'm going to go back wondering what the heck just happened in the new Homestuck update since clearly trying to defend myself here is pointless.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
Wait are you guys saying even though I tracked noname last night and he didnt visit the nk that he's still scum?  I guess that could be a scum power being able to not be tracked but Im having a hard time believing that if this is the case.
I don't see why scum couldn't have sent Affinity out on the kill.

I'm actually going to go out on a limb and say that Nameless might be a Godfather (BP + town scanning variant), as I distinctly recall him requesting the town cop to scan him, and that's a blatant Godfather tell. His hesitance to hammer PX D1 would still make sense, since it would out him as being bulletproof if flavor confirmed that PX was a bomb, and he could possibly get in trouble with a potential real bulletproof. Note that he was fine when it was implied he'd have to hammer Serela if Serela got lynched. He would have known Serela wasn't a bomb.

Affinity is probably a bomb or a strongman or something. Strongman is only likely if Dormio was a doc variant.

I'm... honestly not sure why scum would be so willing to throw their Godfather under the bus, but in a bastard game where a cop's sanity can't really be accounted for in the first place, I imagine a roleblocker would still be more valuable, and they had already gotten rid of the bomb. It also feels like after Serela died, scum's gameplan shifted to having Nameless bus everybody, hence why he was on Serela and Affinity ASAP with no regard to how close he was pushing them toward a lynch.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 08, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
Note that he was fine when it was implied he'd have to hammer Serela if Serela got lynched. He would have known Serela wasn't a bomb.
D2, I thought I was dead no matter what, hammering a scum!bomb would be the best way to go out I figured.
I'm... honestly not sure why scum would be so willing to throw their Godfather under the bus,
Your assumption that that is my "true" role is based on a post from my D2.  I was confused then.
It also feels like after Serela died, scum's gameplan shifted to having Nameless bus everybody, hence why he was on Serela and Affinity ASAP with no regard to how close he was pushing them toward a lynch.
Because then I figured out "hey those are scum let's lynch 'em"
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 08, 2012, 09:45:08 PM
ShadyK, is there anything you want to say or ask? I see you online, and the thread's been dead for like an hour.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
Shady

You're confirmed town.

The choice between Nameless and Huh What literally defines whether you win or lose this game.

Please.  Ask.  Questions.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I don't see why scum couldn't have sent Affinity out on the kill.

I'm actually going to go out on a limb and say that Nameless might be a Godfather (BP + town scanning variant), as I distinctly recall him requesting the town cop to scan him, and that's a blatant Godfather tell. His hesitance to hammer PX D1 would still make sense, since it would out him as being bulletproof if flavor confirmed that PX was a bomb, and he could possibly get in trouble with a potential real bulletproof. Note that he was fine when it was implied he'd have to hammer Serela if Serela got lynched. He would have known Serela wasn't a bomb.

Affinity is probably a bomb or a strongman or something. Strongman is only likely if Dormio was a doc variant.

I'm... honestly not sure why scum would be so willing to throw their Godfather under the bus, but in a bastard game where a cop's sanity can't really be accounted for in the first place, I imagine a roleblocker would still be more valuable, and they had already gotten rid of the bomb. It also feels like after Serela died, scum's gameplan shifted to having Nameless bus everybody, hence why he was on Serela and Affinity ASAP with no regard to how close he was pushing them toward a lynch.

This PR speculation is painful.

Doctor (makes sense for stitches, I looked up the flavor)
Bomb who doesn't know they're a bomb (and therefore can't optimally play the role by, say, drawing the scum night kill)
Person who knows there's a bomb in the game (wooooo)
Odd Night Tracker

Neighbors woooooo (I think we're being counted as power roles, but we're just VTs with a QT)

EVEN IF I THROW IN A BULLETPROOF that doesn't justify better than a scum roleblocker. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 11:39:32 PM
Affinity...should not have been that high on my list.  That was me taking a vote way too personally.  Mostly unmemorable.
Affinity.  You are scummy.

Inbetween those there was... very little discussion with Affinity. 

What happened?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 08, 2012, 11:56:55 PM
Just cuz Im online doesnt mean Im looking at this thread all the time.  Questions hmmm I guess I'll have to reread the thread and get back to you guys on that.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 08, 2012, 11:59:46 PM
Just cuz Im online doesnt mean Im looking at this thread all the time.  Questions hmmm I guess I'll have to reread the thread and get back to you guys on that.

Shady... you literally can do nothing scummy at this point in time.  You are confirmed town. 

I'm asking for your input because we can't lynch scum without your help. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 12:48:11 AM
Alright something just came to mind.  That night 1 roleblock.  Now I'm fully aware it could just be any random person but doing it randomly seems like a bad idea.  So let's say they had a reason to block me.  Now on day 1 I pretty much figured that noname was scum.  I did eventually however drop that due to ICE.  And now I wonder did that cause the roleblock?  Maybe it did maybe it didnt.  Then day2 Affinity was quick to call me out on dropping my vote and doing whatever else I did.  It was around that point that I softclaimed.  I remember huhwhat found it to make me relatively town and it convinced Affinity at first but as soon as ICE voted me Serela and Affinity jumped on that real quick.  Affinity thought I should elaborate more on that softclaim which is kinda silly.  Anyways, when I softclaimed Serela must've known that I had some power role.  I figured they'd act on that and get me but I guess not.  Maybe they thought it was a one time power or something but given the circumstance I doubt it.  Maybe Im overthinking this but the way I see it I suspected noname at first which may have caused Serela to block me while noname sent the kill.  This is kinda a crazy theory but it's something to think about.  Looking at huhwhat's interactions he looks pretty town or just a really good scum player.  So the way I see it Affinity is obvscum and noname might be the other culprit.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 2
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
What happened?
The re-read happened.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 01:17:05 AM
Also the more I see of this the more I think the scum were trying to breadcrumb me as scum as due to my inexperience, I most likely wouldn't notice.  Of course with 3 scum that would fall apart, which is why only Affinity and Serela did so, basically spelling out "we are scum with nameless" as a false trail.

The third scum would have to be someone who has been almost completely detached in views from them.

Hi huh what.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
The roleblock...no one had given away having a power role so I'm guessing the scum picked randomly and happened to pick someone with a power role.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 01:26:19 AM
"The scum were secretly trying to tie themselves to me"... yeah, that's BS in this particular situation. The options are that you were either a bus target or an intended D2 mislynch. I see nothing pointing to scum specifically trying to frame you. All their relations to you are subliminal enough that the notion of intentional ties is pretty ridiculous here. Cite specific examples if you're certain otherwise.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 01:33:05 AM
It was a pretty wild theory anyways :V  Ugggh I'm not sure what to think anymore. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 01:40:44 AM
an intended D2 mislynch. I see nothing pointing to scum specifically trying to frame you. All their relations to you are subliminal enough that the notion of intentional ties is pretty ridiculous here.
This is probably more accurate.

Stupid paranoia...
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 01:53:59 AM
If ability to win arguments were an indication of towniness, Holy What would be an Innocent Child.  However, they are merely an indicator of player skill, which is independent of alignment.  That being said...

Holy What, what were your thoughts when Serela claimed your PR?

Nameless, what do you think you could have done to push Affinity harder? 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 02:02:51 AM
I could have re-read the thread sooner compiling a list of reasons why Affinity is scum.  Doing so now would do absolutely nothing though since Affinity is obvscum and I'm already suspect for having not done so.

(also the mafiascum wiki is back up)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 02:08:17 AM
I could have re-read the thread sooner compiling a list of reasons why Affinity is scum.  Doing so now would do absolutely nothing though since Affinity is obvscum and I'm already suspect for having not done so.

(also the mafiascum wiki is back up)
Seriously man, were you in my shoes, why would you vote for Holy What over you?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 02:12:12 AM
Holy What, what were your thoughts when Serela claimed your PR?
"Oh hey, desperate scum is trying to survive longer with a rushed revised fakeclaim, fuck off."
Was initially worried scum might realize something was up with my role if I just 1v1'd him immediately, but then I figured I had nothing to lose and didn't want the day to edge toward bullshit speculation regarding whether Serela was telling the truth or not (since that would have been a huge waste of time), and so I quoted my first post and voted him.

As is evident from my votepost, I hadn't fully considered some damning number issues that Affinity and I later pointed out when I voted him. I didn't really spend much time thinking the situation through beyond some rushed points, since I knew he was lying and he looked bad enough already that I didn't think I'd have to create a particularly solid case to lynch him. Might have been slightly biased regarding how scummy he looked independent of anything I said since I was pushing him before his claim on D2, but whatever, it got him lynched.

To be honest, I doubt I would have believed Serela's revised claim on initial reaction even if I wasn't BP, due to some meta on him which I presented.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 02:21:51 AM
Seriously man, were you in my shoes, why would you vote for Holy What over you?
honestly, I probably wouldn't.

If I were to give a reason it'd have to do with huh what being far more experienced than me and thus better at playing/defending themself/scumhunting/acting town.

Also ShadyK is on the right track with tracking me giving nothing being a towntell.  I am town, Shady is town, Affinity is scum, and that leaves 1 scum and 1 town on 2 players: huh what and you.

Why exactly am I scummy?  Why was I town earlier in the game?  When did I become scummy?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 02:42:12 AM
honestly, I probably wouldn't.
To elaborate on this: by process of elimination you have a player that has [unknowingly] exhibited scumtells most of the game.  I'm going to say that's probably just the playstyle I adopted.
and then you have huh what, someone you think is town (or played an amazing scum game).

Now, this assumes town!ICE, an alignment I suspect less and less with each post.  You went from "lynch the scum" to
Shady... you literally can do nothing scummy at this point in time.  You are confirmed town. 

I'm asking for your input because we can't lynch scum without your help. 
Asking the other new player for advice.

You also brushed aside my answer to this post
Nameless, what do you think you could have done to push Affinity harder? 
by basically saying "Why shouldn't I vote you???"  Honestly right now I see 1 scum 4 town, which means I'm wrong on one of 3.

Inbetween those there was... very little discussion with Affinity. 

What happened?
You also ignored my response to this, quoting 2 of my posts but ignoring the fact that I mentioned I re-read in that time.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 03:01:07 AM
An ICE/Affinity scumteam could have quickhammered you by now.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 03:14:03 AM
Soooo, Huh what, Nameless, and Affinity, one of you is town.

Haha.

Spoilers.

It's nameless, neh?
Also what happened to this?  I know you looked over stuff (and had a big long explanation of how I'm scum), but what happened to this?

An ICE/Affinity scumteam could have quickhammered you by now.
Right, vote meta in LYLO supersedes all when it comes to quickhammers...since I'm town, Shady could have quickhammered, ICE could have kept his vote on, that leaves Affinity, who is known scum, and you, who right now have your vote parked on me. (as most likely mis-lynch)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 03:19:00 AM
Right, vote meta in LYLO supersedes all when it comes to quickhammers...since I'm town, Shady could have quickhammered, ICE could have kept his vote on, that leaves Affinity, who is known scum, and you, who right now have your vote parked on me. (as most likely mis-lynch)
If you knew this, then why did you attempt to push for him at the last minute in the first place? Your last two posts look like you saw ICE's post, assumed you couldn't get me lynched over you, and tried to switch targets. <_<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 03:24:04 AM
because as noob I didn't notice until after someone pointed it out, I realized after you mentioned the quickhammer.
Still think ICE's latest posts seem scummy but it might just be a push for the finish
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 03:24:55 AM
@mod can we get a votecount?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 03:29:15 AM
Urgh, your response to me implied that you knew before I said so.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 03:30:43 AM
Urgh, your response to me implied that you knew before I said so.
I figure out a lot of stuff after a get a small prod in the right direction :V
I also overlook the obvious a lot.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 3 - LYLO
Post by: Kitten4u on March 09, 2012, 03:48:46 AM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (1) -  huhwhat
Affinity (1) -  i have no name
ICE (0) -




Not Voting: ShadyK, Affinity, ICE

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends in ~42 hours.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 01:41:58 PM
Fuck it.

There's no town reason to put this off until tomorrow.  Holy What is making a risky and bold play as town, but I also think Holy What would have had more control over scum firepower, and those were just all Affinity shots.  As I said in the dead thread, just blame me. 

Shadoweh shut your ***** mouth.  I know how much hate there is for me in that thread

Even bothered to look up one of Holy What's scum games (Cavalier of the Abyss or some shit like that) and... *sigh*

Well, Affinity is online, so at least we can cut to the part where everyone screams at me for fucking this up.

Vote: Nameless
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Affinity on March 09, 2012, 03:03:43 PM
##Vote: Nameless

It was a tough choice, ICE.  Could have went either way, this game.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
FUCK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:06:11 PM
ARGH
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:06:23 PM
GODDAMN IT
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:08:09 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: BT on March 09, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
Can't blame ICE, it was a crapshoot from an outsider's point of view.

Holy what.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: BT on March 09, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
This is assuming the game is over.

I'm in the dark. ::)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 03:23:21 PM
This is my bah post.

I have no name words.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:27:06 PM
GODDAMN IT

I should be forced to write out a thousand times "Always vote with your gut in LyLo."

But nooo, I had to go and vote with my head.

FUCCCKCKKKKKKk
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
I am so, so sorry guys
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm272/pesco47/motktown.png)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 03:50:44 PM
i cant see waldo  ???
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 03:59:45 PM
I thought I'd lose because Nameless was derptowning the fuck out for the last 24 hours or so. Oh well.

I had fun. D1 was terrible (what the FUCK px?) but the rest of the game was pretty enjoyable, though I'm not really fond of being scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 04:03:35 PM
"I'm vanilla. Oh Affinity is confirmed scum? I'm actually bulletproof. I crumbed this in that post where I crumbed every power role ever. By the way I'm pretty sure Dormio is a doctor and GreyICE is confirmed town since the scum team believed their claim and shot Shadoweh for this reason. Hey Rawr, can you kindly run in a zig zag pattern in that minefield? That would be super."

Huh what, have you considered a life in politics?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
I thought I'd lose because Nameless was derptowning the fuck out for the last 24 hours or so. Oh well.

I had fun. D1 was terrible (what the FUCK px?) but the rest of the game was pretty enjoyable, though I'm not really fond of being scum.
*sigh*

I was so close to voting for you so many times.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 04:25:13 PM
I crumbed this in that post where I crumbed every power role ever.
That was explicitly intended to be a breadcrumb, though, since the original Kanaya role was not bulletproof.

This isn't to say I didn't come up with the fakeclaim on the spot. vOv

Also, Rawr was obvtown, in my opinion. His arguments with GreyICE screamed "misguided and frustrated townie". I just pushed for his death because I thought I could get away with it.

ICE: Shrug. People in the graveyard don't really have the right to judge you for picking wrong, since with the exception of Dormio, they weren't really getting scum lynched while alive. Pretty sure this was an off game for town in general, and you were close enough to the truth that I was pretty scared for a majority of D4.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
Even bothered to look up one of Holy What's scum games (Cavalier of the Abyss or some shit like that) and... *sigh*
Also, this was probably your best bet at meta-reading me, since I thought my scumplay was pretty Iffrita-ish this game. Pretty lucky that Schezo dropped out of the game at the last moment. <_<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
He totes would have been Shady and tracked you >:o
Incidentally Shady was the most adorable thing this game. Cute little newbies. *_*
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
Shady wasn't too bad for a first-timer. I think he should have been more assertive in LYLO, though, even if it was probably fair to leave the decision up to somebody more experienced.

As for cuteness, I can't really judge. I do like his avatar even though I hate Seiga so :shrug:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 04:49:16 PM
i judge people
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 04:53:37 PM
The only person who deserves to be judged or scolded for their play this game was PX, because what the fuck was that. Serela was bad but can't really be blamed because he was trying to sound like his VI self and probably would have gotten away with it without the bus.

I would rant about PX but I have to go to school. Just... please actually try to play next time?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
Well i found it more enjoyable yelling in the QT to kill ICE huhwhat and affinity
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
This is why I said lynch the confirmed scum first.
Then again D5 you probably would have just voted for me and I'd be quickhammered anyway.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 05:39:17 PM
Scum had to catch themselves for town. All the new guys played very well and probably better than basically everyone else. Except Dormio.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 05:40:34 PM
6. Votes must be bolded with the double octothorpes, as so: ##Vote: <player>. Same applies to unvotes.
Actually...we haven't lost yet.
On a technicality.
Vote: Nameless
I see no '##' there.

but yeah since everyone has basically come back continuing wouldn't be fair unless it was a gambit which by ICE's reaction posts I highly doubt
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 05:41:22 PM
Actually I could have saved the game by fakevoting myself >.>
hindsight, hindsight.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Conqueror on March 09, 2012, 05:50:58 PM
(Fakevote gambits based off of syntax are eww and not all mods will let them fly btw.)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
ICE stopped using the ## for awhile now
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
(Fakevote gambits based off of syntax are eww and not all mods will let them fly btw.)
I was thinking an unvote in 1pt font though
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 06:25:53 PM
that sort of thing is disabled by the forum itself.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 06:34:30 PM
Fine, I'll stop worrying about fakevote stuff and start getting mad at ICE for not lynching the obvscum and instead lynching the obvtown
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Kitten4u on March 09, 2012, 06:39:10 PM
I'll confirm that the game is over, but Hourai can post the flip and his flavor when he gets back.

Nameless, we had been ignoring that ICE wasn't using ## all game.  We counted his votes and unvotes even without it.  We just like it there because it makes votes easier to find. :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 06:40:02 PM
Well God Damn.

Why the Fuck did people vote Px D1 HOLY SHIT, What the fuck were people thinking.

Hey GreyIce, this is why you don't fucking insult the shit out of noobs who play 1000% better than you.  I'm not even fucking joking.  Your methods of scumhunting amounted to "THIS GUY IS OBVSCUM LYNCH LYNCH"  And that went on for 3 days straight.

Yes Px could have fucking tried harder when I was basically confirming him as town.  I pity Shadoweh who was prolly yelled at to vote Px who she thought was town, of course she did town no favors by claiming masons.  That just gave more credibility to the ridiculousness that was Ice.  Dormio was useless.  The fuck were you doing Fosing me and Shadoweh D1?  I honestly can't blame Rawr at all for giving in to his anger at GreyIce but that exchange clouded the thread.  Especially those posts by affinity which I was trying to keep an eye on.

Do not ever assume scum killed a person because of their reads.  I would have gone after affinity full force D2 not IHNN.  Scum kill people based on how town they look or if they suspect a powerrole, and Grey honestly should know this but why you tried to justify yourself voting for derpy play over obvscum HW is beyond me.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
Dormio was a good guy this time Dan. Don't be a hater just because of Diplomacy :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 07:31:14 PM
Dormio was a good guy this time Dan. Don't be a hater just because of Diplomacy :V

Believe it's quite seperate.  I defended him hard early on and he just dissolved into a puddle of uselessness. 
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:01:27 PM
Grey thought Serela was obvtown :D
Dormio, you should just vote for the first person you protect. GET A VIG.

The Bacon Cave, with 95% less Bacon (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
Well God Damn.

Why the Fuck did people vote Px D1 HOLY SHIT, What the fuck were people thinking.

Hey GreyIce, this is why you don't fucking insult the shit out of noobs who play 1000% better than you.  I'm not even fucking joking.  Your methods of scumhunting amounted to "THIS GUY IS OBVSCUM LYNCH LYNCH"  And that went on for 3 days straight.

Yes Px could have fucking tried harder when I was basically confirming him as town.  I pity Shadoweh who was prolly yelled at to vote Px who she thought was town, of course she did town no favors by claiming masons.  That just gave more credibility to the ridiculousness that was Ice.  Dormio was useless.  The fuck were you doing Fosing me and Shadoweh D1?  I honestly can't blame Rawr at all for giving in to his anger at GreyIce but that exchange clouded the thread.  Especially those posts by affinity which I was trying to keep an eye on.

Do not ever assume scum killed a person because of their reads.  I would have gone after affinity full force D2 not IHNN.  Scum kill people based on how town they look or if they suspect a powerrole, and Grey honestly should know this but why you tried to justify yourself voting for derpy play over obvscum HW is beyond me.

And your method of scumhunting amounted to...

...

Seriously, what? 

You may not like my methods, but I get the lynches I want, and I narrowed down the scumteam.  We got two out of three through LyLo, and I DON'T think Huh What was obvious scum.  Maybe it's so fucking obvious in the dead thread who the scumteam is, but it wasn't up here.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
The dead thread didn't know who the scum team was.
Getting the people you want lynched doesn't mean much when they all flip town. :V That kind of play might work well at MS but I think it's been proven repeatedly that it just doesn't work here. You have to be nice to the newbles. We loves them so. :<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 08:04:54 PM
Grey thought Serela was obvtown :D
Dormio, you should just vote for the first person you protect. GET A VIG.

The Bacon Cave, with 95% less Bacon (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP)

I thought she was obvious town POST CLAIM because it was suicide as scum to claim vig.

Which it WAS. 

Lynching her when she had a provable claim day 2 would have been terrible.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Actually, your stated reason for not having a scumread on Serela, and I did ask you, was because..
"Because Nameless is on the wagon, and nameless' wagon hop was MISERABLE."
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Schezo on March 09, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Dan. Yeah it's fine to not assume scum killed people because of their reads but I know I've picked nightkilled in the past based on if X's reads were right.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
What i totally called scum team after my death. Also PX had to die because i dont support terrofism.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 08:13:32 PM
There's a flavour of pie that people here need. And it's not oppai.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:17:11 PM
I would be angry, but I'm convinced huh what could talk a stone to suicide on the nearest townie. I felt guilty even thinking suspicious thoughts about him. ;_; DON'T LOOK AT HIM. DON'T EVEN READ HIM. JUST VOTE AND RUN.

Combine this with last game and I hope huh what has some well-deserved confidence in himself.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
There's a flavour of pie that people here need. And it's not oppai.

Apple?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
HW for best townie since he actually caught scum and got them lynched. Nevermind that he was scum. It's not the first time they've done that here anyway.

Apple?

For the Americans I suppose.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
ICE...
we had the scum picked...
and then you voted the new player...

Just out of curiuosity huh what, who would you have NKed N4?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Bardiche on March 09, 2012, 08:27:29 PM
All game reading along I had this burning desire to lynch ICE. Sadly a replacement was never needed so my time to shine was never.

On that note, it's been a while since we had a 0 replacement/modkill game. Good job to all involved.

Stop being rageturds.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 08:28:21 PM
Whee, GG, managed to guess 2/3 scum so yay

4 scumpicks in a 12 player game, pretty slick set-up speculation 8)

If you're town, you should be explaining why you'd like to lynch them, assuming you want people to listen to you after you die.

But huhwhat, you know as well as everyone else. Nobody here listens to the dead. Nobody.

Cut by Bardiche: I know that feeling :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Actually, your stated reason for not having a scumread on Serela, and I did ask you, was because..
"Because Nameless is on the wagon, and nameless' wagon hop was MISERABLE."
Oh right, that.  It was miserable.

I do feel 72 hour days hurt a lot.  At least for days 1&2 we ended up speed lynching and, surprise surprise, we hit town.

I'm sorry if I raged a bit, but literally no one gave me much of anything, besides shadoweh.   No one wanted to build a town coalition, no one reached out to anyone, everyone just played like disinterested observers or scumbags.

I doubt I'll play another 72 hr day game.

I am sorry for everyone for not trusting my gut.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 08:31:35 PM
Not lynching Serela was not a mistake.  It was lynching Px and Anthy without even thinking hard about the other people. 

Grey my "method" of scumhunting is not to tell people they are terrible based and then lynch them based on force of personality.  Well, I do better finding town-reads anyway, but even so if you reread D1 you will see that I was beginning to form important observations whilst defending PX vigorously. 

You "narrowed down" the scum team because you lynched town and because the Scum NKed town, what are you trying to pull here?  Congrats I guess for figuring out that ShakyK was town

Schezo you are right in that me and Conq killed you because we thought you looked townie and to screw Shadoweh over basically.  I didn't care you thought Conq (and to a lesser extent I) was scum  :V  (I have no idea why Dormio/Px/Rawr killed you tho, and we know you were killed in Vanilla II because Keine choose you)

Cut.  I FUCKING TOLD YOU PX WAS A BOMB WTF
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 08:31:51 PM
Well, prepare to be in for some disappointment.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 08:32:44 PM
no one reached out to anyone

There is so much wrong with this that I'll let Dan/Bardiche/Edible/Rawr show you the answer.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
Also, 72 hours is too long here :V
Look at the huge activity drop in general past D1
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Conqueror on March 09, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
It's just a game guys. ^_^
Anyway I'll run the next game when I get back.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Oh man I totally forgot to have you ask Dormio if he wanted to form a ~*~Townie Voting Block~*~
It was on my list of things to do Day 1 but I forgot about it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Oh man I totally forgot to have you ask Dormio if he wanted to form a ~*~Townie Voting Block~*~
It was on my list of things to do Day 1 but I forgot about it.

The Dormio that voted you and Fosed me?

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Conqueror on March 09, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
The Dormio that voted you and Fosed me?
(It's because Dormio has a known love for townie voting blocks as seen in NotV.)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 08:43:50 PM
I was referring to Grey, a in telling him in our QT that it would be a good idea.
Because :troll:
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 09, 2012, 08:45:06 PM
Oh dear all the rage.

I do feel this game was lacking in something, yeah, I'm not really sure how exactly to explain what. I think it was related to the second half of D1 turning into what in the, and all the more experienced town people either dying before D2 or being Shadoweh. And also there was Dormio! :3

Yeah I think that was the main thing. Most of the game players were either very new (To motk at the least), or scum. This overall changed the... iunno. The something!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
Shadoweh tried hard.  So hard.  When the most sense came from me and her I knew we were gonners.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 09, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
Shadoweh was indeed trying very hard, so we killed her :3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 08:50:25 PM
All game reading along I had this burning desire to lynch ICE. Sadly a replacement was never needed so my time to shine was never.

On that note, it's been a while since we had a 0 replacement/modkill game. Good job to all involved.

Stop being rageturds.
Bardiche, I don't mean to be arrogant, but we're I scum you never would have touched me.

I've been lynched three times as scum, two involved Fate and one involved a cop investigating me night one and claiming day 2.  And he said he thought I was town, I was just the one person he least trusted his reads on.

My scum record sits around 12-3, as of the last time I checked.  And one of those was a derpaholic mess where town won without lynching scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Pesco on March 09, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
Flapping your stats around like that just begs to get you policy lynched every time to mess them up.

What works at MS works for MS. What works here will be something for you to figure out eventually.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Serela on March 09, 2012, 08:58:44 PM
Well, it is a different site, so it could be different here. Cut by Pesco saying basically the same thing. Although, usually the town is a little more, err, overall experienced then this game was >.x No offense to the new guys, it's not their fault for being new and they weren't doing a bad job playing either :3 Overall.

D2's weird votelessness was a thing.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
PX im sorry for killing you, its in my blood.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 09:03:35 PM
Quote
PX, playing TECHIES was lynched.

Fix'd*
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:04:16 PM

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (3) -  huhwhat, ICE, Affinity
Affinity (1) -  i have no name
ICE (0) -


Not Voting: ShadyK


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The deciding lynch for the fate of The Felt was decided and as they strung up the noose, some could feel the uneasiness in the air. Examining the body, they found that their fate was sealed as the dead was not Midnight Crew. Removing their disguise, the last two Midnight Crew revealed themselves and picked up their weapons. The Felt, knew that they were now outpowered and that there was nothing they could do to stop them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have no name, playing Doze, The Felt Vanilla member was lynched Day 4.


"Coffin cloggers, all of you."

Affinity, playing Clubs Deuce, Midnight Crew Bomb has won.

Huh what, playing Hearts Boxcars, Midnight Crew Rolecop has won.

Serela, playing Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker has won.



ShadyK, playing Fin, The Felt Trailmaster has lost.

ICE, playing Biscuits, The Felt Neighbor has lost.



Scum Win

Stuff to come later coming later.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
> Mafia bomb
ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:05:49 PM
He was a dud, but was never told that. Essentially a goon.

~*~bastard mod~*~
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
Quote
Affinity, playing Clubs Deuce, Midnight Crew Bomb has won.

Huh what, playing Hearts Boxcars, Midnight Crew Rolecop has won.

Serela, playing Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker has won.
[/color]

Holy fuck

Oh a dud.   

Still this is why I wanted a mass bomb claim.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
 O yeah Grey, the only scum that ever touched you was affinity.

That means almost all town would have lynched you.  What makes you think we wouldn't have done the same if you were scum?  Is your scum game more concilatory or something?  I've been told it's mostly like your town game.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
Scum Roles:

Huh what-
You are now Hearts Boxcars, Midnight Crew Rolecop. What's that? Slick decided to give you Die's swiped voodoo doll? That was sweet of him. With this doll, you can teleport to a place on the timeline when your target is dead to investigate their powers. No one is safe from your TV antenna with which you shall dye this place red with the blood of The Felt.

Your abilities are as follows:
Once a night, you may investigate a player's abilities by sending in the command: ##Check <playername>. You shall receive their role PM. Once you use this ability, you must recharge the next night.
You may perform the factional nightkill by sending in the command ##Kill <playername>
You may not kill and cop in the same night.

Your partners in crime are Serela and Affinity.
Your walkie-talkie channel in which you may communicate is [http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh)]

Safeclaim available on request.

You win when all townies are dead, or when nothing can prevent you from achieving the same. Now go look at some Red Cheeks.


Affinity-
You are now Clubs Deuce, Midnight Crew Bomb. Everybody out of the god damn way. You got a hat full of bomb, a fist full of penis, and a head full of empty. You are obviously the criminal mastermind behind this whole plot, and with your Crook of Felony, the shin-drubbings will be endless. Your battledrobe is fully loaded with enough explosives to blow this place sky-high.

Your abilities are as follows:
Whenever you die, you shall also kill the person who killed you. If lynched, the person who hammered will be the one to die.
You may perform the factional nightkill by sending in the command ##Kill <playername>

Your partners in crime are Serela and huhwhat.
Your walkie-talkie channel in which you may communicate is [http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh)]

Safeclaim available on request.

You win when all townies are dead, or when nothing can prevent you from achieving the same. Now go eat some gummy bears.


Serela-
You are now Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker. You hate shenanigans. All forms of shenanigans. Especially time shenanigans. Your goal is to see this green mansion painted with the blood of those ridiculous Felt members. To help accomplish this, you have successfully swiped Crowbar's crowbar, an artifact that negates all of those goddamned time shenanigans.

Your abilities are as follows:
Each night, you may block a player's actions and passive abilities by sending in the command ##Block <playername>.
You may perform the factional nightkill by sending in the command ##Kill <playername>
You may not kill and block in the same night.

Your partners in crime are huhwhat and Affinity.
Your walkie-talkie channel in which you may communicate is [http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh)]

Safeclaim available on request.

You win when all townies are dead, or when nothing can prevent you from achieving the same. Now go eat some scottie dogs.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
I had a feeling Clubs Deuce was a dud bomb honestly.
Because C4 isn't a volatile explosive :V

Ah well, at least by losing we followed the Homestuck canon (so I'll just say losing this game was a constant across all timelines)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 09:14:26 PM
He totes would have been Shady and tracked you >:o
Incidentally Shady was the most adorable thing this game. Cute little newbies. *_*
no im not aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That was pretty fun.  I did get a bit lazy this game with opinions and arguments and stuff but whatever that's just how I am.  :V
And suddenly 7 replies
Oh wow so Affinity was a bomb but a dud bomb.  That's pretty silly.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Town Roles:

Dormio-
You are now Stitch, The Felt Resident Tailor. You are #9 of The Felt, and the doctor of the house. By repairing effigies, you can save a person from a gruesome death each night, but with a little catch.

Your abilities are as follows:
Each night, you may target one person with the command ##Patch to protect them from death overnight.
You know your protect will alternate between going through and not going through each night, but you don't know what it starts on.
You may target yourself.

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.


You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go play with your dolls.


Dan-
You are now Cans, The Felt Tankman. You are #15 of The Felt, tough as nails Kool-Aid man. They did not bring enough ammunition to kill you and you know this. Not even a bomb will do enough damage to kill you.

Your abilities are as follows:
You know of the presence of a bomb/bombs in the game.
You are immune to being killed by the effects of a bomb.

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go bust through some walls and say, "Oh yeah!"


PX-
You are now Snowman, The Felt ? ? ?. You are #8 of The Felt, and a bit of a mystery. So much of a mystery that you yourself aren't even sure of what you do, but you do know your death will cause something, good or bad, you aren't sure.

Your abilities are as follows:
You know something will happen upon your death.
 
You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go stab some eyes.


ShadyK-
You are now Fin, The Felt Trailmaster. You are #5 of The Felt, and a darn good tracker to boot. By following a person's future trails at night, you may check to see if anyone performed some kind of action. Your head is shaped pretty cool, also.

Your abilities are as follows:
Each night, you may use the command ##Follow <playername> to see if they performed any actions at night. Send this in to the mods, not inthread.
You may only use this power every other night. e.g. If you tracked on N1, you must wait until N3 to track again.

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go and follow some orange puffy clouds.


Shadoweh-
You are now Eggs, The Felt Neighbor. You are #12 of The Felt, and half of a whole idiot. Good news is, you have an companion to chat with all day every day, although you have your suspicions.

Your abilities are as follows:
You have private communications with ICE.
You may talk with this player anytime [http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP)].
You have no guarantee about ICE's alignment even though you have communications.

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go duck inside an oven.


ICE-
You are now Biscuits, The Felt Neighbor. You are #13 of The Felt, and half of a whole idiot. Good news is, you have an companion to chat with all day every day, although you have your suspicions.

Your abilities are as follows:
You have private communications with Shadoweh.
You may talk with this player anytime [http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP)].
You have no guarantee about Shadoweh's alignment even though you have communications.

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go ring an egg timer.



rawr-
You are now Matchsticks, The Felt Vanilla Member. You are #11 of The Felt, but are not interesting enough to get any special powers!

You have no special abilities. ;_;

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go bash some scum.


i have no name-
You are now Doze, The Felt Vanilla Member. You are #2 of The Felt, but are not interesting enough to get any special powers!

You have no special abilities. ;_;

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go bash some scum.


Anthy-
You are now Sawbuck, The Felt Vanilla Member. You are #10 of The Felt, but are not interesting enough to get any special powers!

You have no special abilities. ;_;

You have 1 vote and the ability to speak.

You win when all threats to The Felt are eliminated. Now go bash some scum.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:19:44 PM
I had a feeling Clubs Deuce was a dud bomb honestly.
Because C4 isn't a volatile explosive :V

Ah well, at least by losing we followed the Homestuck canon (so I'll just say losing this game was a constant across all timelines)

expect slick shouldnt have died :V.  But ya, the other "power" I held back was being immue to bombs, which only mattered if I hammered Px, I wouldn't die.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Also Px, your Pm says enough that you should have instantly believed me when I said you were a bomb.   Why you were so hesistant I do not know.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:26:02 PM
Things:

Eggs/Biscuits can still communicate at night if blocked.

Snowman will not explode if blocked and NK'd.

Stitch can protect scum from Snowman explosion if she is killed and he protects them.

Stitch starts N1 on unsuccessful.

Clubs Deuce will not explode on flip.

Snowman is the real bomb.

QT's:
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/MVambeMVTLaU (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/MVambeMVTLaU) Graveyard
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/vvwQMT83F7aP) Neighbor QT
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/ND2n68TEEDYzh) Scum QT

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cYSkZExw5CQw (http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cYSkZExw5CQw) Mod QT



Actions up next.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Night 1:

huhwhat: Rolecop Shady, Successful
Dormio: Patch huh what, doesnt even matter bad doc night lol
Affinity: NK dan, Successful
Serela: Roleblock ShadyK, successful
Shady: Follow Anthy, blocked

Shady's block message:

You attempt to follow Anthy last night to see if he targeted anybody, but you cannot due to an unknown force. (This is not the same as getting a negative result.)

Night 2:

Dormio- Patch huhwhat
Serela- Block ShadyK
Affinity- NK Shadoweh

Night 3:

huh what- Rolecop Dormio
Shadyk- Follow no name
Dormio- Patch ICE
Affinity- NK Dormio
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
After reading the scum qt I feel like ive been abused somehow. =(
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
Wow, didn't know I was that effective at shutting down Affinity D3-4.  Gotta say I pegged most of the scum NKs and thought processes for mis-lynch targets through most of the game.

Then what happened in Cascade?
  (don't read this spoiler if you're not caught up with homestuck)
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 09:37:17 PM
DON'T WORRY SHADYK

I DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY READ YOUR POSTS
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
"This playerlist seems kinda slanted. Kill GreyICE N1, kill Shadoweh N2 then kill Dan N3 for a presumable win? "

T_T
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Also yay scum said I was town MVP ^_^
not bad for first game ever I'd say.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: PX on March 09, 2012, 09:38:49 PM
IHNN, you did really well. So well I had a fleeting moment where I thought you might have been scum for doing so well :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 09:39:19 PM
DON'T WORRY SHADYK

I DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY READ YOUR POSTS
THANK GOD CAUSE I WASNT SAYING MUCH IN THEM ANYWAY
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 09, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
http://quicktopic.com/47/H/tM4uNgQj4SWj
Here is my very short thoughts QT.

Quote
If Affinity and HW are scum, I'm going to cry.
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff-


STOP GIVING ME THE DAMN DOCTOR ROLE.
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT PROTECT SCUM WITH IT.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Quote
N2 protect HW again.
Watch as he turns out to be scum.

:V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
"I hope i have no name self hammers"
GRRRR
NEXT GAME WE BOTH PLAY RAWR YOU ARE MY OPENING VOTE FOR THAT

"I keep wondering if IHNN RL ATE was real but made it easier to fake scum ate. "  (ActionDan)
completely real.

"> Nameless is a godfather
> No cops or vigs"  (Shadoweh)
I thought I was obvnoobderptown?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Shady_Ghost on March 09, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
Ive never seen so many variants of my name before.  Is it really that hard to spell? :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Serela on March 09, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
Dormio should scumhunt by looking for who he wants to protect if he was a doctor, and voting them.

I also find it amusing that I joke about shooting HW and Dormio doc'd him (On the night his doc actually worked!)

But my favorite part is reading in IRC about Shadoweh flailing over HW being so hard to read, because I'm totally there. I can read most other people. I can't read HW. I just can't.

ShadyKut:The only letters we can type after Shad- are oweh
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:56:04 PM
Yeah I am sad Dormio didn't protect either me or Shadoweh D1 and didn't protect Shadoweh D2.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 09:59:09 PM
"I hope i have no name self hammers"
GRRRR
NEXT GAME WE BOTH PLAY RAWR YOU ARE MY OPENING VOTE FOR THAT

"I keep wondering if IHNN RL ATE was real but made it easier to fake scum ate. "  (ActionDan)
completely real.

"> Nameless is a godfather
> No cops or vigs"  (Shadoweh)
I thought I was obvnoobderptown?

I never doubted it was real, just real life ATE can sometimes be used to make you look less like scum.

If you stood up to Hw a bit more and actively attacked him instead of relying on "Im newbtown dammit"  it might have been better.  It's sort of taking the easy way out, what you did.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 10:01:26 PM
After i got up I was going to make a case on huh what, but I woke up to being dead.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 09, 2012, 10:02:57 PM
Yeah I am sad Dormio didn't protect either me or Shadoweh D1 and didn't protect Shadoweh D2.
I was too busy protecting the scum two nights in a row.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 09, 2012, 10:03:53 PM
After i got up I was going to make a case on huh what, but I woke up to being dead.

That kind of reminds me of the thing you did when you say that you were suspicious of x before y voted him even though you voted x after y did.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 10:09:07 PM
I was still learning the ropes then.  I lot of stuff that's obvious to older player I didn't even realize was a good play until far after I should.
Starting wagons was one of those things.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 09, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
@Dan #819: Rage much?
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 10:33:05 PM
VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) - 
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (3) -  huhwhat, ICE, Affinity
Affinity (1) -  i have no name
ICE (0) -


Not Voting: ShadyK


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The deciding lynch for the fate of The Felt was decided and as they strung up the noose, some could feel the uneasiness in the air. Examining the body, they found that their fate was sealed as the dead was not Midnight Crew. Removing their disguise, the last two Midnight Crew revealed themselves and picked up their weapons. The Felt, knew that they were now outpowered and that there was nothing they could do to stop them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have no name, playing Doze, The Felt Vanilla member was lynched Day 4.


"Coffin cloggers, all of you."

Affinity, playing Clubs Deuce, Midnight Crew Bomb has won.

Huh what, playing Hearts Boxcars, Midnight Crew Rolecop has won.

Serela, playing Spades Slick, Midnight Crew Roleblocker has won.



ShadyK, playing Fin, The Felt Trailmaster has lost.

ICE, playing Biscuits, The Felt Neighbor has lost.



Scum Win

Stuff to come later coming later.
Oh wait.

Affinity was a bomb.

So if we lynched him we lost.

So we were actually in LyLo on DAY fluffing TWO.

I take everything back.

This game can write me a nice postcard.  Kthxbai
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Conqueror on March 09, 2012, 10:33:53 PM
Affinity was a bomb.
Except for the part where he wasn't.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dr Rawr on March 09, 2012, 10:35:46 PM
That is not the kind of bomb i would kill
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - Day 4 - LYLO
Post by: I have no name on March 09, 2012, 10:36:03 PM
Affinity was a bomb.
I had a feeling Clubs Deuce was a dud bomb honestly.
Because C4 isn't a volatile explosive :V
Read more Homestuck ICE, I wasn't worried about a Midnight Crew bomb for that very reason.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 09, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
Where's that sex bomb link.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Hanged Hourai on March 09, 2012, 10:47:07 PM
If you read the notes or other people, you would know that Affinity was a dud and would not explode. :V
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ICE on March 09, 2012, 10:51:29 PM
If you read the notes or other people, you would know that Affinity was a dud and would not explode. :V
..............................

Yeaaahh

Thank you MotK for mafia.  It was fun.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Shadoweh on March 09, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
"> Nameless is a godfather
> No cops or vigs"  (Shadoweh)
I thought I was obvnoobderptown?
That was the point. Apparently you were a scum roll made to counter two town powers that didn't exist. That's how amazing huh what is.

I would also like to point out how gung-ho Dormio was about lynching PX, knowing he had no vig to finish the nefarious bomb off with.

Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 09, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
ALL THE BOMBS, ALL OF THEM.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Vhaltz on March 09, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I... wow.

I fucking called Huh What being scum this game, and was right.

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Y por meta GUT creo que Huh What es mafia. No suele sheepear de esas maneras, es un t?o que no da town reads casi nunca y siempre va a su bola, y aqu? le est? dando demasiada credibilidad a ICE solo por su claim, cuyo razonamiento para creer es WIFOM.

Translates to:
Through meta GUT I'm pretty sure Huh What is mafia. I've never seen him sheep like this, he's more of the kind of guy who doesn't give out town reads and is busy sorting it all out by himself, and right here he's giving ICE too much cred for a claim, specially considering that the reasoning he gave for it is WIFOM.


Ugh, I really, really want to join the next game, but leaving town twice and having two exams in the next two-three weeks makes it nigh impossible unless the signup takes forever.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Serela on March 09, 2012, 11:06:39 PM
Well, we can look forward to having you in the game after :3
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Affinity on March 09, 2012, 11:31:16 PM
@IHNM: Your actions did happen to cause pain for us during LyLO, but you have to keep in mind that doing things like voting people to L-1 without hearing from them in future games might cause town to lose and stuff.  Oh well, I liked your play from late-D2 onwards after your AtE, hope you stick around and stuff for future games.  Asking people why they think they are town seems rather (?), however.

Tried to go against my meta this game by going solely for mislynch targets in the hope that one of them would get lynched instead of me, but I ended up playing textbook scum and making related mistakes such as flubbing my attempt to distinguish IHNM from Serela (IRL actions my foot), and thus earning IHNM's ire.  Sadly, Serela voted ShadyK to L-1 instead of hammering Anthy, the latter which would have given far less information.  I also should have claimed something cool D4.

Not much to say except that huhwhat did a good job in general in carrying the game for us.  ShadyK and PX were simply too lazy to really play the game.  Anthy's D2 was decent but he needs to realize that votes are the bread and butter of mafia and that voting someone wouldn't hurt anyone.  Dormio played really fine this game; I like the switch he made from IHNM to Serela.  I don't think ICE deserves all the bad rep despite the unwarranted insults on other players; his LyLO play was pretty good.  Other than that, I didn't really pay attention.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 09, 2012, 11:38:46 PM
Quote from: ActionDan
What a surprise! he flipped townie.

Welcome Hw! Mister Scum NK

Welcome Affinity! Selera's vig

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Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ES-Anthy on March 09, 2012, 11:49:32 PM
Oh this ended . < .

I did enjoy the game a bit, but irl situations crossed with this did kinda make for a bit of a stressful time.

Also I'll restrain myself on this, but ICE, the only reason why everyone wanted to stick a shiv in you is that you're full blare caps half the time.  You present yourself as someone unapproachable not in a sense of being that good, but being just that annoying.  Honestly I kinda wanted to stab myself in the face to relieve a little pain at times
. < .

Either way, things happen, mafia occurs and fun was somewhat had, good game guys o7
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - DAY 1
Post by: Vhaltz on March 09, 2012, 11:52:31 PM
...

You seriously think scum is going to respond to getting pushed to L-2 by fakeclaiming CONFIRMED TOWN MASON?

Losing scum on Day 1 is awful enough for the scum team in a Role Madness game, since they need all the roles and numbers they can get. But if they claim mason and one gets lynched, the other will follow, meaning they lose TWO.

And even if they survive D1, if they survive to LYLO they're going to be cast under major suspicion. Masons just isn't a good scum fakeclaim. It wouldn't be too hard for them to just push the PX counterwagon harder... which, by the way, GreyICE isn't even doing. He's focusing on scumhunting and not surviving, which is townie.

Seriously, guys, stop being stubborn and get your votes off the obvtown.

The post in particular I was referring to.
I could've been fooled into questioning the read if I re-read his D2 too much though, it was good. Unless I'm in a really bad state of mind during my first readthrough, my tells tend to be pretty accurate (I was almost 100% sure PX was town because... I watched MLP and I knew that his OMGUS was pure roleplaying  :V plus bastard mod elements coming back in game after the last two or three people joining at the last minute meant that his "??" claim was pretty believable, specially considering how he went about his fakeclaim in IMP), so I'm pretty certain once I get playing I'll try to only reread upon scumflips.

I want to play so bad :(
Maybe I could make it if it starts after the 21st. I'll try, even with stuff going on I always manage to dig out an hour or two to do nothing online so I could do the same for mafia.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 10, 2012, 12:41:02 AM
@Dan #819: Rage much?

All that Rage is deserved.  I'm not even that angry anymore, but GreyIce obviously thought he was god's gift to mafia and tried to discredit almost everyone. 

I'm not why he's blaming the setup when scum rolled over him anyway.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 10, 2012, 08:10:55 AM
"This playerlist seems kinda slanted. Kill GreyICE N1, kill Shadoweh N2 then kill Dan N3 for a presumable win? "

T_T
Really, all the other townies (except for Dormio) were either inexperienced or PX. :T What else was I supposed to conclude?

Amusingly, this in reverse order kind of ended up being what happened, only we shot Dormio instead of ICE and left ICE for the N4 kill. I didn't put too much thought into the order aside from specifically not killing Shadoweh N1, so uh, if that T_T is at you only being a N3 target, then it shouldn't be. Especially given how the game actually turned out. You were the only person I would have wanted dead on N1, even without your role making you super duper obvtown. Everybody else seemed incredibly narrow-minded, with the exception of Shadoweh, who I avoid NKing on policy because it's funny to watch her shout "WHY AM I STILL ALIVE? ;_;" in LYLO as town. Until she lynches scum, anyway.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 10, 2012, 09:05:12 AM
that T_T was knowing that that plan was incredibly sound, but not being able to do a thing against it.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 10, 2012, 10:12:55 AM
Blame it on the RNG :T
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Shadoweh on March 10, 2012, 10:14:44 AM
Everybody else seemed incredibly narrow-minded, with the exception of Shadoweh, who I avoid NKing on policy because it's funny to watch her shout "WHY AM I STILL ALIVE? ;_;" in LYLO as town. Until she lynches scum, anyway.
It is not funny! ;_; I am a strong and capable butterfly! >_<
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Pesco on March 10, 2012, 10:28:13 AM
It is not funny! ;_; I am a strong and capable chaos butterfly! >_<

Fixed
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: ActionDan on March 10, 2012, 10:40:10 AM
flap your wings Shadoweh!  I'm sure no natural disasters will wreck havoc on the mafia games!  nope, none at all!
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Dr.Strafe on March 10, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
As someone completely foreign to the whole Mafia game concept, I'd say that I rather enjoyed following this game. Too bad that I didn't understand half of the lingo/acronyms. :V

Congratulations HuhWhat, Affinity, and Serela.
Title: Re: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN
Post by: Bardiche on March 12, 2012, 12:34:23 PM
Bragging about how people didn't lynch you isn't exactly useful here on MotK, and it can blind you from how scummy some of your behaviour is. I have every faith that this game you could well have been lynched, as various intimidation tactics were employed which no MotK Townie would nor should ever resort to just to get a lynch. That people chose not to focus on that isn't some grand cause to declare how immortally good at Mafia you are; not getting lynched isn't so useful a stat if you are commonly engaged in games where many people simply act scummy. I also do not get lynched much, but that does not necessarily imply I am an impervious god of Mafia who could not be lynched by someone with enough force of persuasion.

In any case, the point is moot.

I do think still that this was one of MotK's best games since no one replaced out or got modkilled.