Labyrinth of Touhou 8F

[Rukoto]

Even a recording of the playthrough could be interesting enough if you get a... unique party :V

I give you Reimu. However, this Reimu is so incredibly bored with the exploration of the space that she must use each of her attacking spells once in any given battle before she may use either of her two supporting spells in that specific batt--

On a more serious note, are you going to be doing this on a ng+ with all characters, equips, or some combination of that stuff, carried over? Although, regardless, I'm giving you...

 Sakuya

[I have no name]

Use Youmu.
and also Yuyuko if I can suggest multiple.

What would a good level for

Spoiler:

Maribel         

be?  Reimu is currently level 113 and I got destroyed (yes I used Chen-->Escape to get to the relay point)

[Zil]

Use only people who have the letter "Y" in their names. BV

I seem to recall beasting

Spoiler:

Maribel

somewhere in the lower 100's. (I'm leaving that spelling mistake in there because it made me chuckle.)

[Serela]

The final boss isn't realistic to beat before 120 unless you want heavy luck-based-ness, and 130 is a better idea of seriously trying her, DEPENDING on your party and how much ease you want in the fight.

It does depend  a lot on your party/strategy, since at this point in and on this fight you have a high degree of customizability in that category.

[I have no name]

Use only people who have the letter "Y" in their names. BV

The list if you were curious:
Sakuya, Youmu, Yuyuko, Yuugi, Kaguya, Yukari, Yuuka, Aya and Mystia
Including last names we add Chen(?), Ran, Rumia(?), Eirin, Sanae, Suwako, Kanako, Orin, and Shikieiki

I like how everything on 20F dies before it moves except The Norns, which use 1 attack which everyone survives because affinities.

[chirpy13]

I think this is the first time since early early game where adding a point used up the last of my SP.  Was kinda cool :V.

[draganuv15]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Who should I add to my party, ALL SLOTS"
And I don't think going with everyone with "Y" in their names gives me a lot of restriction :V

[I have no name]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Who should I add to my party, ALL SLOTS"
And I don't think going with everyone with "Y" in their names gives me a lot of restriction :V

No Reimu, Marisa, Minoriko, Rinnosuke, Iku, Tenshi, Meiling, Remilia...  the list goes on.

Although if people only draw from the 'y' pool, I vote for "Empty" for 123th party slot.

Reimu has already reached level 124.

[draganuv15]

So... any suggestions for a full party? Or am I gonna have to make a party with Y people...

[Zil]

@Chirpy: I had Reimu at 630 when I beat Winner, and I probably went a bit further than needed, plus I was using a few sub-par characters (Mokou, Cirno, etc.) just because I like them. So I'd say ~600 would be good to beat him and still get a challenge from it. If it's not enough you can always add more. Also skillpoints make a big difference, so if you're going to gain 100 levels without any skillpoints you may want to level up a bit further to make up for it.

@Yukiko: You could go with a team of only final boss characters. I tried it earlier but stopped because it was boring, but if you want a weird party you could try that. Reimu and Maribel could be included to make things easier.

[I have no name]

>goes to random.org
>generates 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 25, 32, 33, 39
Reimu, Remilia, Chen, Cirno, Minoriko, Youmu, Yuugi, Aya, Mokou, Rinnosuke, Renko, Keine.

[draganuv15]

>goes to random.org
>generates 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 25, 32, 33, 39
Reimu, Remilia, Chen, Cirno, Minoriko, Youmu, Yuugi, Aya, Mokou, Rinnosuke, Renko, Keine.

Well at least I have a healer. I'll go with that!

[I have no name]

Final boss, final phase.
How.
Flowing Hellfire!
CLD target-all!
self-buff!
Flowing Hellfire before I can move!
Hyperdimension Flying Object before I can move!
Game Over!
What am i supposed to do, level some more?

[Zil]

What am i supposed to do

Get lucky, pretty much. Hope she doesn't self-buff or use her Dullahan impersonation. Or you can level up more, but her last phase is fairly stupid, yes.

[I have no name]

Get lucky, pretty much. Hope she doesn't self-buff

Stupid.
Because she used Overflowing Unnatural Power THREE TIMES IN A ROW (right after killing the last minion no less), giving herself +100% in every stat.  I lost before I even had a chance to start.

[Zil]

I think it's always the first thing she does after you kill the last one, but using more than that was pretty bad luck. I remember having a kind of strategy actually: keep her speed at -50%, lower the last minion's health as low as you can, and then wait for her to move, ideally with a spell that has high delay. Then put her speed back to -50%, kill the minion, and unleash as much hell as you can before she buffs herself, which removes the speed debuff completely. After that things get ugly, but her health in the last phase is fairly low so hopefully she only gets 4 or 5 moves before she dies.

[I have no name]

I'm just going to level up a bunch more, hopefully pick up some more items and then be able to actually survive her after buffs.

[Tangrelle]

Play with Eirin

12 Eirins

Anyway on a serious note I put together a lovely charagraph using the Last Word Cut-in Stand things from the Genius of Sappheiros characters <3 Unfortunately there isn't one for every character, but a good chunk of them, at the least.

I love how some of them turned out (Cirno, Reisen, a couple others) although others aren't too great (Remi and Yuugi have great poses, but Remi is a bit short for dialogue boxes and Yuugi has the dilemma of if she faces one way she looks good for battle but hideous on status/level-up pages and vice versa for the other way)

I'm still trying to mess with Reimu, because she's a tad too far over in the main selection screen for my tastes, but to fix it I'd have to chop up the picture and I'd truly rather not. I hope I did a fairly good job, and I'll see if I can't change something if it's not well executed.
Probably going to do up a team out of their images <3

Charagraph of Genius of Sappheiros Characters

[Ghaleon]

Well at least I have a healer. I'll go with that!

Err, uhh, unless you count minoriko, there is no magic dps in that group. Or was mokou? I cant remember if she was phys or not.

[Zil]

Mokou's magic, yeah, though nothing amazing. You probably want to spam her big multi-target to do good damage, and that costs over 100sp.

It's surprising really. That's practically all of the physical attackers in one group.

[draganuv15]

Mokou's magic, yeah, though nothing amazing. You probably want to spam her big multi-target to do good damage, and that costs over 100sp.

It's surprising really. That's practically all of the physical attackers in one group.

Hmm... maybe I will roll again.

[I have no name]

Maribel Hearn defeated.
Suika was the MVP pf the battle, followed by Remilia, and then Youmu.
Tenshi managed to remove 3 buffs, Marisa got sniped, etc. etc.
So...I see a lot of boss markers have suddenly appeared.
Also, Maribel's boss marker didn't go away, does this mean I can fight her again whenever?

[draganuv15]

Maribel Hearn defeated.
Suika was the MVP pf the battle, followed by Remilia, and then Youmu.
Tenshi managed to remove 3 buffs, Marisa got sniped, etc. etc.
So...I see a lot of boss markers have suddenly appeared.
Also, Maribel's boss marker didn't go away, does this mean I can fight her again whenever?

You can fight Maribel whenever you want, but if you get 5 stars and activate the switches on the 20th floor afterwards you can fight Maribel Han ver.2!

[Ghaleon]

Wow, remi 2nd mvp!? Shes nearly always the mvp for me no matter what my overall party serup is, but everyone else is convinced shes just "meh".

I mean she cranks out those spears faster than anything other than aya or chen spam, but its damage (after her self buff... And i dont mean 1 attack after but like 4-5) is about half as much as the really heavy hits like megawatt gun. Plus she tanks well, and after a djinstorm she can dish out full damage within a single turn for a good 5-6 turns before anybody else can even do one attack.

I honestly have no idea how she can be anything less than great for people =p.

[Ozzy]

Wow, remi 2nd mvp!? Shes nearly always the mvp for me no matter what my overall party serup is, but everyone else is convinced shes just "meh".

I mean she cranks out those spears faster than anything other than aya or chen spam, but its damage (after her self buff... And i dont mean 1 attack after but like 4-5) is about half as much as the really heavy hits like megawatt gun. Plus she tanks well, and after a djinstorm she can dish out full damage within a single turn for a good 5-6 turns before anybody else can even do one attack.

I honestly have no idea how she can be anything less than great for people =p.

I totally agree. Remilia has always and probably always will be my character with the highest BP. Honestly, after a Curse, nothing can really hurt her badly and each spear is like half the damage dealt by nuke hits like Silent Selene.

Also, just beat Yuyuko.  Is it really lucky for her to only use Saigyiouji Flawless Nirvana once during the battle (only the opener)?

And is it just me, or is Yuyuko's damage output on anything other than Saigyiouji Flawless Nirvana rather low (as a party member)?

[Esoterica]

And is it just me, or is Yuyuko's damage output on anything other than Saigyiouji Flawless Nirvana rather low (as a party member)?

It is, but if you build her MAG it hits really hard.

Been a long time since I played but I specifically remember her being my main damage source for the 20F boss fight.

[Ghaleon]

I made a mag yuyu in my last playthru and was excited to see her damage... Unfortunately it wasnt auite as i hoped. Yes its powerful, but despite its amazing formula, megawatt still outdoes it. While you may think thats a given, consider that it is spirit elemental instead of non; which SERIOUSLY hinders her end game boss dpsing viability. As for her other spells, yeah theyll always deal crap damage. Though if you build her for speed, and you use kaggy and yukari, and you dont underlevel, you can really stall the bosses with her atb reduction.

That said she didnt suck. She was flan-tier for mist trash, and even if flawless's damage was situational, it was almost always fairly good at worst, combined with her AMAZING base resistances, high mnd, and respectable hp... She was kinda like kanako only situationally strong and weak during different bosses than kanako. So like she did the same thing as kanako during different times (though she lacks elemental versitility, the plain superior power of flawless makes up for that).

[I have no name]

so I just played a bunch more.

Wow, remi 2nd mvp!? Shes nearly always the mvp for me no matter what my overall party serup is, but everyone else is convinced shes just "meh".

She's not meh, it's just Suika was hitting for 150-200k per hit as opposed to Remilia's 50-70k, and Remilia kind of was forced to switch people as opposed to attack and then Djinn Storm happened.
Mystia is awesome so far.  Spammable 50k is awesome, status removal is awesome, survivability is not crap, target all is great damage, great PAR and PSN effect, awesome SP pool...it goes on.
I've already beaten the boss rush, recorded, will likely upload (Yukari didn't get to Djinn Storm).
I've also beaten 14/18 V2 bosses-just Rinnosuke, Yukari, Flandre and Nitori haven't been beaten.

Is it really lucky for her to only use Saigyiouji Flawless Nirvana once during the battle (only the opener)?

I saw it 3 times.  Ah well, I stacked SPI resist when I did it so it barely scratched me as it was. (2-3k max)

[Ghaleon]

Oh no i didnt say YOU said she was meh. 2nd mbp is still plenty good. Like you said too, shes also a good switch bot if for some reason the tank cant. I prefer letting the tank do it though if possible since their attacks tend to be less important.

[Zil]

I would think that Remilia's a good enough tank that you don't need another one out, unless you mean you have Remilia built for damage instead of durability.