Pesco 100 - I would like to think I would target you no matter who you insulted, but I admit your response to Roukan's first post set off major alarms in my head. I must have been traumatized by the last time you told Roukanken he sucked at playing mafia, since I accidentally defended the godmother in that game :V
it feels to me that you think voting me is a safer lynch to push.
Actually, I think pushing your lynch when I did was less safe than pushing the lynch on Nuke, since "Pesco feels like scum by gut and Nuclear feels like scum by facts".
I felt Donut wasn't scummy by then, he was simply being an idiot (yay more insults!).
This would be excusable, but it still seems out of place to me for anyone to realize that was true before Donut had everyone explain to him why that reasoning was poor.
Finally, what exactly needs explained that I didn't already note in my post previous?
Post 105-
(for reasons that I think are retarded, I'll add)
Ad Hominim
Cause lynching me would be on the list of stupidest things town can do today
Ad Hominim
So ya, if people want, I'll claim.
Sign of giving up.
Clearly the work of Someone who's cracked under pressure.
I agree with a lot of what Kiro says in 114. The way you treat your cop claim is like it's some sort of get out of jail free card that would send any town riving away in fear of lynching someone who, up until this point seems to be actively choosing to work against the town. It's clear you came here with no intention of taking this game seriously, which unfortunately doesn't work on this forum.
Pesco back and forth with Rou. I see in post 117 that Pesco is trying his hardest to explain his thought process between his vote and unvote of Donut. I'm still skeptical that instead of pressing Donut further, he automatically assumed Occam's Razor at work, then switched to someone else.
but to say "is better to lynch a-good-for-nothing towney than a helpfull-mafioso" goes way
This is Exactly Right
hawever, pass for being waaaaaaaay too suspicious.(for now)
This is Exactly WRONG. I can understand meaning to vote for him later, since that's what my plan is as well, but no one is ever too suspicious to not be attacked for it.
Also, there's some confusion but I think "That" Is suppose to refer to a bandwagon. I know this isn't philosophy class, so Dorian needs to explain it exactly.
Post 123 - Seeing Rou's Comments, Rou is starting to sound like an Angry house Wife. Pesco is beginning to redeam himself by trying to explain his thought process, and since I can see how Town Pesco can act the way he did, I'm willing to back off for now.
##Unvote: PescoVote: Nuke (Not an actual vote, since I don't know what the count is right now)
I'm defending myself because everybody is on my case. If I try to just say "oh hey look I think he is scum" then you would call the deflection. I can't win either way in this case, so I'd rather defend myself to prevent the town from lynching the cop.
Ha Ha, Oh wow.
Okay, let me break this down to you:
1. Defending - Looks Scummy, because the player is putting more emphasis on their own survival over lynching Scum
2. Scum Hunting with baseless accusations - Looks Scummy, because the Player is putting more emphasis on lynching without regards to alignment.
3. Scum Hunting with analysis - Looks Townie, because the player is putting more emphasis on killing scum than protecting them self.
Basically, what you just said is that you feel you should be doing 1 because 2 won't work, and apparently 3 is not an option to be considered. This is only the latest of Several occasions that you highlight your unwillingness to lynch Scum. This is the reason we are voting for you, because you seem to treat the Town as the Enemy here.
I don't know how to make this clearer other than to highlight, italicize, or bold the key phrases in my last paragraph.
Saying I'm trying to hard to vote for you ignores the case I'm trying to present.
What is the case you are trying to present? All I see is "Dorian isn't posting very often." Which isn't a hard scumtell.
You're obviously enjoying this.
He's obviously not. Trust me, go back and read a few of your points. Pesco has Tried to explain his thought process to you several times, and every time you complain about every individual point. He's also tried to stop this argument, which you then sparked another argument over why not explaining himself is scummy. Which, doesn't even apply, because he's been trying to explain himself the whole time.
You may have a point in your case, but Pesco's reactions are more of someone who's getting a headache from a child yelling at them for ice cream than from someone who's getting caught stealing ice cream. I agree that Persisting of this argument from either you or Pesco will lead no where.
Offense is the best defence. Seriously, turning out a solid case on someone is far better than trying to explain yourself, because it shows that you have a solid stance, really.
However, I completely disagree with you on this.
Why?
Ugh, I'm tired now. I spent five hours on this post.
---tl;dr---Donut's vote flip can be seen as both scummy bandwagoning and town pressure voting, so I'm considering this a nulltell as well. I'm still Uneasy on Pesco, and I think Rou's case on his is legitimate, but I also feel that Roukanken is trying to antagonize Pesco while playing the victim at the same time. Ultimately, this gives me the exact same feeling as the other game. I'm not planning on making the mistake of Defending Pesco again, but apparently Donut already has. *sigh*
I worry about Nuke. There are only two things I can see him being right now - Scum, or Beilos 2.0. Nothing else.
All in All, I'm not certain where to take my vote now, since the only option I feel strongly one way or the other about is closed off due to not lynching the cop claim is technically better than otherwise. according to Affinity's post which is about to cut me, the bandwagons are Dorian, Pesco, and Donut. The only one I'm entirely unhappy with is Donut.
Cut by Pesco:
Zak needs a Prod
I need a hug.