Author Topic: Yukari Quest! (Read 110729 times)

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #570 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »

Quote from: Omba on October 19, 2011, 08:22:05 PM

> Get closer to the tree. Watch for any movements of the vines or anything we might feel moving underground.
> Watch for any changes in the tree's aura or any effects it might now have on us.
> Stop and step a bit back if the vines start approaching us.
> If they don't approach us, stop about 10 meters from the tree.
> Any new details we can make out from here?

>You try to get closer to the Saigyou Ayakashi.
>You take a few steps forward, and the vines continue to extend towards you.
>The aura continues to grow stronger as you get closer.
>You edge back a few meters when you see the vines extending, but this does nothing to stop them from continuing to grow towards you.

>_

Omba · « **Reply #571 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:44:06 PM »

> Do we know what happened to Yuyuko's old self when she was sacrificed to seal the tree? Like, she died, but was there anything else to it?
> How far away from the tree are we now?
> How fast are the vines moving and how many are there? Can we see if their numbers are increasing?

I've got a feeling part of Yuyuko has been inside the tree ever since she's been sacrificed to seal it.
Now if that is true, the tree will try to get Yuyuko back. Also, I think we have to decide right now whether we want to get Youmu's help or not.
I'm rather against it, considering the tree seems to have gone into overdrive and she already couldn't really handle it's aura before.
If we do it alone, I suggest letting the vines close in on us and then try stabbing them (rather than running in before we know if the knife is as effective here as it was with Yuyuko).

BT · « **Reply #572 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:52:28 PM »

Stabbing a few vines probably won't make a difference. I think this is a losing battle, especially since we're not close to the tree itself.

To be honest I have no idea.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #573 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:54:59 PM »

Quote from: Omba on October 19, 2011, 10:44:06 PM

> Do we know what happened to Yuyuko's old self when she was sacrificed to seal the tree? Like, she died, but was there anything else to it?
> How far away from the tree are we now?
> How fast are the vines moving and how many are there? Can we see if their numbers are increasing?

>As far as you know, Yuyuko's body was buried under the tree.
>Roughly ninety five meters.
>Currently, the vines are not moving too quickly.
>There are at least a dozen vines.
>You can see more vines coming out from within the hole in the tree.

>_

Tamashii Kanjou · « **Reply #574 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:03:31 PM »

Okay then... side-stepping and bringing the Ayakashi Knife down across the vines that come at us is an acceptable form of attack. (Aka, Yukari can easily do that.)
Also bare in mind that Yukari has been seen to do a spinning kick of some sort (yes, without her gap) so she isn't as un-fit as we may think.
She can jump around a bit, but not too much; so we can still do this on our own.

So if we are going to go ahead and get closer in, repelling the vines where possible, then we need to be very careful with each and every action we do.

^^

BT · « **Reply #575 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:12:33 PM »

95 meters is a lot. Plus, the vines are moving slowly, implying they can move faster. And, as far as we know there may be hundreds of them. Is this really a good idea?

Tamashii Kanjou · « **Reply #576 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:14:41 PM »

That's why I'm asking you guys for thoughts.

Going back for Youmu is an idea... but do we really want to risk a Youmu death; bearing in mind she didn't take to kindly to the Ayakashi earlier?
Yes, her speed would do it. But Ayakashi Knife + Ayakashi aura = Unknown Reactions from Youmu.

MAJOR EDIT!

WE CAN F**KING FLY!!! Which is easily faster then running. Why did I forget about this!?!?!

Omba · « **Reply #577 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:20:14 PM »

Hm. I'd really like to go for a "reunite Yuyuko with her old self" thing, but I have absolutely no idea how we could go about that. So I guess that leaves brute force for now.
Also, if there's new vines coming out of that hole, that means we have to act fast before there's too many. I'm guessing if we were to leave this alone, the vines would eventually reach Hakugyokurou.
Waiting for the vines is out then, I guess. I propose:
> Run towards the vines, carefully watching all of their movements as well as the tree.
> Once we're close to them, side-step their attack and stab one of them, then jump backwards and get some distance between the vine and us until we can see what happens to the vine.

--cut X2

I don't think getting Youmu is a good idea. Yukari might be willing to risk Youmu's life, but if Youmu gets caught by the tree, it's quite possible the tree will get even stronger. Plus, there will be no-one to watch over Yuyuko, so the tree might be able to lure her back. In which case we would be really really fucked.

--cut by an edit:
Even better.

BT · « **Reply #578 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:23:39 PM »

If I were to think of a "best" course of action at this point, it would probably be "consult Yuyuko". Problem is, we have no idea how long she'll be in this state. We don't even know why she's in it and if it's going to end magically on its own or not. I'd try looking into that but I can't find anything that will give us the answer, or lead to it.

...Maybe some books or something? Gah.

And I guess flying is an option too. I can kind of picture the tree making the vines rise, but at the very least it's going to buy us some time.

Let's just shower it with danmaku and immediately fly towards it.

Tamashii Kanjou · « **Reply #579 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:25:11 PM »

So in other words...

Run a bit, vines come out to attack.
Side-step, swipe.
More vines appear.
Increase speed by flying.
Use danmaku to slow down / repel vines.
SHANK THE AYAKASHI!

Agreed or not?

BT · « **Reply #580 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:26:41 PM »

Something like that. We could really go wild with this.

As in, we take it step-by-step and make up reactions in the process.

Omba · « **Reply #581 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:27:02 PM »

BT:
We need to know what happens to the vines if we stab them, first. If they don't die from it or even power-up because of it, finding that out when we're directly in front of the tree with all those vines around us would be very bad timing.
Also, danmaku didn't do much to the vines the last time. I doubt it's going to be more effective now.

Tamashii Kanjou: Assuming the stabbed vine dies like the ones we stabbed before, yes, I'd say that's the best course of action.

BT · « **Reply #582 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:31:40 PM »

The danmaku's not meant to do anything but form some sort of distraction. At least, in theory.

Fine with this swipe-first approach.

Omba · « **Reply #583 on:** October 19, 2011, 11:48:38 PM »

Ok then, first part go.

> Run towards the vines, carefully watching all of their movements as well as the tree.
> Once we're close to them, side-step their attack and stab one of them, then jump backwards and get some distance between the vine and us until we can see what happens to the vine.
> If the vine immediately shrivels up like the ones before did, skip the jumping back and instead start flying towards the tree as fast as we can while evading the vines, using danmaku to hold the vines off.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #584 on:** October 20, 2011, 12:49:37 AM »

Quote from: Omba on October 19, 2011, 11:48:38 PM

> Run towards the vines, carefully watching all of their movements as well as the tree.
> Once we're close to them, side-step their attack and stab one of them, then jump backwards and get some distance between the vine and us until we can see what happens to the vine.
> If the vine immediately shrivels up like the ones before did, skip the jumping back and instead start flying towards the tree as fast as we can while evading the vines, using danmaku to hold the vines off.

>You start running towards the tree and its vines, making sure that you keep them in your sight.
>As you get closer, the vines start to move faster, and you meet the vines roughly fifty meters from the tree.
>One of the vines lunges at you, and you step to side to dodge it and thrust your knife into it.
>The vine you stabbed goes limp and begins to decay.
>You take this as an opportunity to unleash a wall of danmaku at the vines and take to the air.
>You are about forty meters from the tree when the vines begin to catch up to you again.

>_

Omba · « **Reply #585 on:** October 20, 2011, 12:54:33 AM »

> While flying, how fast can we spin around our own axis while still flying fast towards the tree?
> If we were to do this, how fast do we think we would get dizzy, if at all?

Basically, it seems we don't need to hit the vines all that hard to kill them, so we can just focus on hitting as many of them as quickly as possible while moving towards our target.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #586 on:** October 20, 2011, 01:06:47 AM »

Quote from: Omba on October 20, 2011, 12:54:33 AM

> While flying, how fast can we spin around our own axis while still flying fast towards the tree?
> If we were to do this, how fast do we think we would get dizzy, if at all?

>Fairly fast, it shouldn't slow you down much to spin around, provided you fly in a straight line.
>As long as you aren't constantly spinning, you should be fine.

>_

Omba · « **Reply #587 on:** October 20, 2011, 01:32:55 AM »

> Hold the knife tightly. Very tightly.
> Continue flying towards the tree and shooting danmaku at the vines.
> While doing this, spin around with the knife stretched out, so that we quickly slash any vines that come close to us.
> Stop spinning for a bit whenever there's no vines directly around us.
> Watch out for any vines we miss or anything else happening, like the aura changing. Especially watch out for any vines coming from below or behind us.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #588 on:** October 20, 2011, 02:42:52 AM »

Quote from: Omba on October 20, 2011, 01:32:55 AM

> Hold the knife tightly. Very tightly.
> Continue flying towards the tree and shooting danmaku at the vines.
> While doing this, spin around with the knife stretched out, so that we quickly slash any vines that come close to us.
> Stop spinning for a bit whenever there's no vines directly around us.
> Watch out for any vines we miss or anything else happening, like the aura changing. Especially watch out for any vines coming from below or behind us.

>You are not dropping this knife.
>You keep flying at the tree, shooting danmaku at the vines to keep them at bay.
>You keep a watchful eye all around you, making sure that you're not caught off guard by any vines.
>Your danmaku by itself isn't enough to hold off all the vines though, especially when new ones continue to spawn from the hole in the tree.
>You allow yourself to become surrounded by the vines before you slow down to slash at all of the vines.
>You spin gracefully in the air, tearing apart vine after vine with your knife until there are none left in the air around you.
>After you clear your surroundings, you hear a strange creaking sound and jump back immediately.
>You watch as one of the Saigyou Ayakashi's larger branches passes through the space that you were just occupying.
>You are now roughly twenty meters from the tree.
>More vines are beginning to come out of the hole in the tree.

>_

Omba · « **Reply #589 on:** October 20, 2011, 02:47:44 AM »

> That was close.
> The branch passing through means the tree just threw part of itself at us? (I'm assuming the tree can't somehow extend it's branches this far).

Tamashii Kanjou · « **Reply #590 on:** October 20, 2011, 02:54:47 AM »

I think it simply moved one of its larger branches; they can still swipe at us.

>Quick assessment!
>Are we still facing the 'heart' of the Ayakashi?
>In which direction is what coming at us?
>How close can we be till we feel we could throw the knife and hit it?

Not saying we are going to throw it, but I'm thinking of 'what if we can't get close enough to stab it properly.'
So far so good, btw.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #591 on:** October 20, 2011, 04:28:55 AM »

Quote from: Omba on October 20, 2011, 02:47:44 AM

> That was close.
> The branch passing through means the tree just threw part of itself at us? (I'm assuming the tree can't somehow extend it's branches this far).

>You imagine that it would hurt quite a lot to be hit by one of those branches.
>The tree simply swung one of its branches at you. It is a rather large tree.

Quote from: Tamashii Kanjou on October 20, 2011, 02:54:47 AM

>Quick assessment!
>Are we still facing the 'heart' of the Ayakashi?
>In which direction is what coming at us?
>How close can we be till we feel we could throw the knife and hit it?

>You decide that you should assess your surroundings once more.
>You are still facing the tree.
>The vines are beginning to come at you from below.
>You appear to be out of reach from the larger branches.
>To have a good chance of having the knife connect after throwing it, you feel that you should be within five meters of your target.

>_

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #592 on:** October 20, 2011, 05:51:03 AM »

A note: the 'heart' may very well be what the tree has from Yuyuko. We might want to cut it free and take it rather than stab it.Stabbing the rest of the tree, of course, is fair game.

Ex-Nue · « **Reply #593 on:** October 20, 2011, 06:05:11 AM »

Unless,

> Is Ayakashi regrowing lost limbs?

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #594 on:** October 20, 2011, 07:26:53 AM »

Quote from: Ex-Nue on October 20, 2011, 06:05:11 AM

> Is Ayakashi regrowing lost limbs?

>The vines that you have cut are not regrowing, though new vines seem to be taking their place.

>_

Omba · « **Reply #595 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:20:22 PM »

Hm. I wonder what would happen if we were to get the tree to swing a branch at us again and then hit that branch with the knife.

> Do we see anything besides the vines growing? Like, say, new branches.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #596 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:44:17 PM »

Quote from: Omba on October 20, 2011, 10:20:22 PM

> Do we see anything besides the vines growing? Like, say, new branches.

>You do not.

>_

BT · « **Reply #597 on:** October 20, 2011, 10:49:10 PM »

So do we continue with the flying while spinning thing until we're close enough / there are too many vines?

Omba · « **Reply #598 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:47:47 PM »

> Roughly how many branches of similar size as the one that attacked us earlier does the tree have? Like, 5, 10, 100?

Not sure yet. We might want to kill off some of the branches first if possible, lest we get hit by one while going for the heart.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #599 on:** October 20, 2011, 11:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Omba on October 20, 2011, 11:47:47 PM

> Roughly how many branches of similar size as the one that attacked us earlier does the tree have? Like, 5, 10, 100?

>You'd guess that there are at least twenty branches of the same size as the one that swung at you.

>_