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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #870 on: April 02, 2012, 07:49:53 PM »
Oh man. I feel like i'll miss this the challenge this time, cause i don't like scoring in EoSD and playing MoF for low score is boring to hell :V Good luck to all participants though!

P.S.: I think special challenge will be more fun on lunatic mode :3

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #871 on: April 06, 2012, 06:31:26 AM »
pacifist mof except for pwg huh
sounds fun, maybe i'll try it later if i have 40-45 minutes to waste :V

I heard a mention of speedrunning the Touhou games in one thread by Supermassive Catfish. We should do a challenge like that :V

I'd imagine MoF or SA could be cut down to <20 minutes or so. Eh?

MoF runs are generally around 21-22 minutes. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could cut a full run down to 20 minutes. SA will probably take longer than that, and I have doubts about cutting a run down to 20 minutes.

Someone prove me wrong.  :derp:

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #872 on: April 06, 2012, 06:33:02 AM »
how long has mof been that short
my last stab at it clocked in about 26 minutes


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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #873 on: April 06, 2012, 06:37:54 AM »
You can skip spell cards with bombs in MoF.

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #874 on: April 06, 2012, 06:39:43 AM »
how long has mof been that short
my last stab at it clocked in about 26 minutes

did that card really last 4 seconds when i bombed

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #875 on: April 06, 2012, 06:44:33 AM »
My 90fps clear of SA, which bombed practically everything, still took over 20 minutes, so I'd be pretty damn surprised if someone got through faster than that at normal game speed. MoF might be doable though.

You know, I think the game that makes the most sense to speedrun is actually HRtP. :wat:

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #876 on: April 06, 2012, 11:32:03 AM »
Someone prove me wrong.  :derp:
MairsaB comes in around 17.

You know, I think the game that makes the most sense to speedrun is actually HRtP. :wat:
About a month ago someone made a thread on SDA about HRtP.

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #877 on: April 08, 2012, 03:35:06 AM »
I think I made a UFO run that lasted about 19 minutes, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #878 on: May 01, 2012, 02:20:38 PM »
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #879 on: May 01, 2012, 02:27:49 PM »
MairsaB comes in around 17.

Wow, 17 as in 17 flat or something like 17:50 ish? I wonder if Marisa B is faster than Mairsa A.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #880 on: May 01, 2012, 07:30:10 PM »
Wow, 17 as in 17 flat or something like 17:50 ish? I wonder if Marisa B is faster than Mairsa A.
I was referring to MoF with that, and I'd say ReimuC would probably be fastest for SA.  I haven't done any testing though so *shrug*

Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #881 on: May 01, 2012, 08:16:08 PM »
I was referring to MoF with that, and I'd say ReimuC would probably be fastest for SA.  I haven't done any testing though so *shrug*

Alright, that makes sense, but it's somewhat disappointing at the same time, it would have been awesome if something like shotgunning through the whole game with MarisaB using the wood option was insanely fast. There's no way ReimuC is faster than MarisaA at clearing the main game though, maybe the Utsuho fight goes slightly faster with ReimuC, but I doubt it. I've never tried midboss skipping with MarisaB in the extra, if she can't then ReimuC is probably the fastest there, unless the steady high dps of ReimuA and MarisaA wins it in the end.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #882 on: May 01, 2012, 09:08:37 PM »
I believe MarisaB can skip Sanae. Actually, I thought she was the only one who could do it until recently learning otherwise.

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #884 on: May 01, 2012, 09:46:10 PM »
Just curious, has anyone ever tried a lowest graze challenge? Maybe in proportion with points? That would be interesting to watch.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #885 on: May 01, 2012, 10:00:10 PM »
Just reminding, or informing, people that ReimuC can skip Yuugi entirely with her bomb.

ReimuC can skip Stage 6 Orin as well.

I've tried before but never learned how to do the Yuugi skip, what's the secret? Is it Normal only or something?

Skipping Orin, just like bombspamming the other midbosses (except Yuugi), saves no time at all. Even if Yuugi is skipped I'd think MarisaA has a chance of being faster in the long run, with her approximately 50% higher dps and all.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #886 on: May 01, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »
I've tried before but never learned how to do the Yuugi skip, what's the secret? Is it Normal only or something?

Skipping Orin, just like bombspamming the other midbosses (except Yuugi), saves no time at all. Even if Yuugi is skipped I'd think MarisaA has a chance of being faster in the long run, with her approximately 50% higher dps and all.
But if MarisaB can do that...then wouldn't MarisaB be best due to (as you mentioned) Wood shotgunning?

Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #887 on: May 01, 2012, 10:08:05 PM »
But if MarisaB can do that...then wouldn't MarisaB be best due to (as you mentioned) Wood shotgunning?

Maybe, but can MarisaB do that? I've been trying the Yuugi skip with ReimuC now and I have no idea how to do it, what am I doing wrong?  :(

I can't pull it off with MarisaB either...
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #888 on: May 02, 2012, 08:06:21 PM »
Aww. 26 week thread is gone and there were no results published :(
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #889 on: May 02, 2012, 08:40:34 PM »
Aww. 26 week thread is gone and there were no results published :(
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #890 on: May 07, 2012, 02:59:24 PM »
Hey, why don't we have another SA special challenge next week? SA Lunatic MarisaC - activate the most bombs to win, this is awesome on many levels, it rewards extreme skills and strategy; you activate the bomb and then avoid getting hit to regain power to bomb again, totally badass, while it probably leads to timing out bosses and stuff, it's still much more dynamic than plain pacifist.

Yeah, I just watched the new MarisaC normal WR.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #891 on: May 07, 2012, 03:45:35 PM »
The problem with challenges like that is that it's a huge pain to go back and count bombs at the end of your run.  I can see a lot of people avoiding participation if they had to do that for each submission.

Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #892 on: May 07, 2012, 06:49:04 PM »
However, I could see a lot of people participating if Sapz had to do it. Or maybe that's just me.  :V

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #893 on: May 07, 2012, 09:17:50 PM »
As you guys have guessed, I try to stay away from stuff where the results aren't easily accessible from an uploader or a screenshot - having to watch a replay to confirm things is usually way too time consuming. :V Same sort of reason why I've moved away from the 'Stage 4 Stage Start', '5 Boss Non-Card 3' sort of labelling - there's too much variation in how people list things and it's often not something you can easily check out or quantify.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #894 on: May 28, 2012, 10:29:21 PM »
Just to let you guys know, this fortnight's tournament will be starting tomorrow. Apologies for the delays, I have an exam I need to take care of before I can get this set up. :V
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #895 on: June 03, 2012, 11:44:20 PM »
Hooray for TD no vertical! It's such a fun thing. :toot: I don't think normal 1CC is possible because of Miko's last attack becomes bullshit and you've got not enough resources to survive it. And i'm looking forward for how far lunatic players will go :)
As for scoring in such conditions it looks like all about collecting power items, cause they're only wich worth it after you'll get a full power.

My "best" attempt ended at Miko's 2nd nonspell, but i dont wanna share it cause it had some silly derps along the way. But the primary strategy is like this:

1. Perfect first 3 stages (except timing out Heal by Desire)
2. Get some trance from bottom ghosts at stage 4 start.
3. Bomb Seiga's midspell.
4. Fullfill the trance on the bottom ghosts after it.
5. Perfect Seiga/Yoshika.
6. Use trance against last fairy spam at the end of stage 5. The hardest thing is not to get hit by aimed bullets from last ghosts ring before it (wich i fail all the time :fail:). This should give you 1 or 2 bombs.
7. Try to capture Futo's next to last spell, but as Zil said, it's luckshit.
8. 2 bombs for Futo's last spell.
9. Survive stage 6 fairy spam (wich i failed) and try to get as much power items as possible.
10. See how far you can get through Miko with resources left.

I think either Haku or Malkyrian could do it to Miko's last, and so will try me :) So it will be all about scoring and luck.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #896 on: June 26, 2012, 05:00:50 AM »
Week 29 is up! Apologies for the delays, I'll try and update the previous ones soon.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #897 on: July 23, 2012, 02:55:51 PM »
Week 30 is up, enjoy. Weeks 27-29 will be updated and archived later today.
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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #898 on: July 24, 2012, 01:52:25 AM »
EoSD hates me.  ::)

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Re: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)!
« Reply #899 on: July 25, 2012, 01:30:22 AM »
More people should try the Special Lunatic and Extra challenges. :<