Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F

[ZXNova]

@ Kirin no Sora
Pretty reasonable I would say.  I really like Nine syllable stabs. A binding technique, very suited for a shrine maiden that exterminates youkai. (ZETTAI YURUSANAE)

[Wymar]

Uhm. Are you asking us how to prevent him from not liking the game? If he really just doesn't enjoy the game there's not much reason to keep playing.

No, I want it to not literally drain his soul. Maybe he's playing in an abandonned graveyard or something, I don't really know.

That said, I started a new game in the meantime. I think the lampreys are the biggest difficulty spike so far.

[Alicirno]

My god Yuuka was hard. I mean, I didn't exactly have the best team since stat distribution and teambuilding is decidedly hard for me, but why was she easier than Yuyuko, who I beat 4 levels below the challenge level.
Beauty of Gensokyo is cheating. Getting double calming scent and deranging aroma is cheating. The damage rush at the end is cheating (though Yuugi, Parsee and Kogasa made short work of that). I had to break the challenge level and beat her 7 levels above.

Team so far:
Healer Komachi
Herbalist Wriggle
Magician Satori
Magician Kanako
Gambler Kogasa
Enchanter Sanae
Warrior Yuugi
Strategist Keine
Monk Parsee
Kaguya (dropped for Yuuka)
Yuyuko
Hina

Some of these are probably terrible choices for subclasses, but I'm just going with what works.

[ZXNova]

My god Yuuka was hard. I mean, I didn't exactly have the best team since stat distribution and teambuilding is decidedly hard for me, but why was she easier than Yuyuko, who I beat 4 levels below the challenge level.
Beauty of Gensokyo is cheating. Getting double calming scent and deranging aroma is cheating. The damage rush at the end is cheating (though Yuugi, Parsee and Kogasa made short work of that). I had to break the challenge level and beat her 7 levels above.

Team so far:
Healer Komachi
Herbalist Wriggle
Magician Satori
Magician Kanako
Gambler Kogasa
Enchanter Sanae
Warrior Yuugi
Strategist Keine
Monk Parsee
Kaguya (dropped for Yuuka)
Yuyuko
Hina

Some of these are probably terrible choices for subclasses, but I'm just going with what works.

Don't see why you're going Magician Satori and Kanako. Those are weird choices. And Monk Parsee is also a weird choice, at least to me. Actually, I don't know what subclass to pick for Parsee really. Everything else seems right to me.

And yeah, Yuuka was hard for me too. I was 8 levels above challenge and she would beat me. And yeah, Calming Scent is a very dumb move imo. Whenever Yuuka would get multiple calming scents I would just restart the game. I really hate that move.

[Monothemeerp]

Currently on 6F and I just got my first Stone of Awakening.

Any advice on who to use this one? I'm seriously unsure.

[Serela]

Currently on 6F and I just got my first Stone of Awakening.

Any advice on who to use this one? I'm seriously unsure.

This early in the game, subclasses are mostly just good on characters who don't have good things to spend their points on already, since you're pretty strapped for skill points. (That, and people who could seriously use one of the classes' active skills, like if you wanted to give a support character healing powers)

[ZXNova]

Anyone know where to get the Genji Glove?

[Yookie]

You craft it.
Requires a Dragon Mane though, it's rather rare but you get one early in one of the extra areas once you've beaten enough Shadows.

[Wymar]

I forgot just how frustrating Alice was to fight.

[Monothemeerp]

I forgot just how frustrating Alice was to fight.

I've reached this fight to. I almost had her once, but that was just because Trip Wire didnt kill me.

Seriously. I either lost most of my party members to Trip Wire, or they miraculously survived and the fight continued.


Anyway, 8F random encounters are so damn hard to kill... why is that ? Argh.

[Wymar]

I've reached this fight to. I almost had her once, but that was just because Trip Wire didnt kill me.

Seriously. I either lost most of my party members to Trip Wire, or they miraculously survived and the fight continued.


Anyway, 8F random encounters are so damn hard to kill... why is that ? Argh.

My guess would be Flower Divers continuously buffing their parties to absurd levels. 8F frequently has two of them at once, and the speed-buff feedback loop is horrifying.

[Monothemeerp]

My guess would be Flower Divers continuously buffing their parties to absurd levels. 8F frequently has two of them at once, and the speed-buff feedback loop is horrifying.

Even in encounters without flower divers they just murder my party members before I can get them to act.  I was considering changing my current party but I have absolutely no idea what to change it to, really :/

[Alicirno]

Does anyone know the width/heights of the SS/S.pngs for LoT2? I decided to make a charagraph for fun, with Touhou Pocket Wars Portraits. Still need Wriggle/Maribel/Renko images in the style, but oh well.

[Spiffspoo]

Even in encounters without flower divers they just murder my party members before I can get them to act.  I was considering changing my current party but I have absolutely no idea what to change it to, really :/

Try using faster characters like Chen and Cirno, also up your speed stats.
I believe that speed is the best overall stat to increase with money, unless the character is very slow.
I used Orin for several floors when I got her since should could attack multiple times, and fire element attacks were nice for the Jungle floors.

They really need to fix the stats spells that don't reset the time bar, it can get insanely stupid if they cast it 3+ times in a row.

I forgot just how frustrating Alice was to fight.

I had a harder time with her individual doll fights...  Those things are too freaking fast.

[ZXNova]

Is Ran good at clearing mobs late game? That's something I've always wondered.

[Monothemeerp]

After what felt like an eternity, I have finally defeated Alice!

... Now, is she any good? I haven't had much success with her in the first game, but considering Minoriko is now practically my most valued character while in the first game I barely even used her...

[CrazyManiacz]

One of her main selling points is her Tripwire, which is extremely effective against bosses weak to HVY and debuffs.

Her base MAG isn't THAT good compared to other dedicated nukers, but it's still very viable, nonetheless. After inflicting HVY, her offensive power increases quite a bit with Final Blow.

Don't forget about MAlice Cannon (buffs her MAG) and Doll Guard (Very high evade).

She can target both defenses with her attacks as well, though I usually use her for her single-target FIR nuke (Artful Sacrifice).

I'm sad as to how there are no physical MYS attacks. There's a magical PHY attack, why can't there be a physical MYS attack :<

[jaxter0987]

Does anyone know the width/heights of the SS/S.pngs for LoT2? I decided to make a charagraph for fun, with Touhou Pocket Wars Portraits. Still need Wriggle/Maribel/Renko images in the style, but oh well.

You can see for yourself here. They're not very consistent though so...

[Alicirno]

You can see for yourself here. They're not very consistent though so...

Ah, thank you.

On a side note, was Yuuka supposed to be able to break Yukari this easily? One buff with Sanae and stick her in 4th slot, spam Flower shot and that was it. Extra Attack + Encounter with a strong foe is kind of a great way to keep selfbuffed.

[ZXNova]

Ah, thank you.

On a side note, was Yuuka supposed to be able to break Yukari this easily? One buff with Sanae and stick her in 4th slot, spam Flower shot and that was it. Extra Attack + Encounter with a strong foe is kind of a great way to keep selfbuffed.

Actually did the same thing. Yukari is just really weak to nature.

[Yookie]

Just goes to show that Yuuka is clearly superiour to Yukari. :>

She really trivializes the fight though but all in all Yukari is one of the easier bosses.

[ZXNova]

Anyone know where the last tome of awakening post game is?


EDIT

I got them, but I'm still missing a tome. I musta missed one during main game.

Anyone know all the locations of the stone of awakenings main game?

[gtf234]

Ah, thank you.

On a side note, was Yuuka supposed to be able to break Yukari this easily? One buff with Sanae and stick her in 4th slot, spam Flower shot and that was it. Extra Attack + Encounter with a strong foe is kind of a great way to keep selfbuffed.

Yeah pretty sure she is supposed to do that.  Anything weak to nature- or even neutral to it- and not absolutely tanked on Mind is begging for Yuuka to put it in the camel clutch, break its back, and make it humble.  Yukari is just unfortunate enough to be rather weak to nature after Yuuka becomes available.  As you have observed, Extra Attack chaining Encounter with a Strong Foe is pretty stupid, especially when stacked with all other sorts of damage buffs- Gambler barely even dents her Flower Shot spam gameplan with how cheap the spell is.

[ZXNova]

I was able to find the final tome. Turns out I forgot one on the 13th floor. Weird because I know for certain I dropped down to that area. Maybe something had happened and I forgot to save the data and didn't revisit the area.

[Koog]

God! The poisoning wasp's Shadow! I've barely beat it. My team is a bit weak at the moment.
Kogasa, Parsee and Flan (wasn't targeted at all...) survived...

[Starxsword]

I forgot just how frustrating Alice was to fight.

We are talking about labyrinth 2 right? I didn't remember Alice being that hard.

[MewMewHeart]

We are talking about labyrinth 2 right? I didn't remember Alice being that hard.

The only thing annoying about LoT2's Alice fight is she abuses Trip Wire a lot at times and that's about it better than LoT1's fight with Alice because of those dolls.

[Kirin no Sora]

Not to be a bother, but unless anyone has an objection to it, I would like to start a new thread for this stuff now...
I hope there's no rule for against doing this early...

Edit: I have set up a new thread for this now. I hope no one kills me for this...

[Pesco]

I kill you :V