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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #210 on: October 23, 2010, 01:42:01 PM »
This actually looks like a fun map, I may have to reinstall wc3 and start playing again :D

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #211 on: October 23, 2010, 01:59:48 PM »
We're one short for a game right now.

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #212 on: October 23, 2010, 04:17:49 PM »
ok after reading the first post im pretty confused now, so can someone explain in better detail on what im doing so i can play with all of you?

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #213 on: October 23, 2010, 04:30:42 PM »
first, if you have irc, our channel is
irc.ppirc.net, #DotS-Meido

you need to have wc3, patched to the latest version, as well as the newest map, http://www.mediafire.com/?1vc15am6kxvnx24
that's all you need.

If you want to be able to see the font and text, you'll have to install fontcraft, which is in the op. Just follow the explanation of how to install it and you'll be fine.

oh you'll also want to download and install an older version of Hamachi, so you can play over lan with us.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_hamachi/download/6393e0a5ed67efe6b486569cc6610c7d/ <-- 1.0.1.5

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #214 on: October 23, 2010, 08:21:22 PM »
I've been able to play with you guys using a later version of Hamachi though. (2.0.2.85)

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #215 on: October 24, 2010, 11:12:51 AM »
I've been able to play with you guys using a later version of Hamachi though. (2.0.2.85)
Newer versions of Hamachi gives trouble with Dots afaik. Uninstall and reinstall 1.0.5.0 (or w/e it was).



Also finished editing ALL girls on the wiki. Now you can easily back track info. How ever they are based on 0.952e and newest version is 0.953a orz

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #216 on: October 24, 2010, 12:15:06 PM »
But I've had no trouble so far.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #217 on: October 24, 2010, 01:17:06 PM »
But I've had no trouble so far.
That is because you never played with us :V We all run the older version so it remains consistent. Perhaps the new map versions are better designed for latter Hamachi versions. I have no idea.


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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #218 on: October 24, 2010, 08:08:16 PM »
But I've played with Kitten4U, Panda, Sodium, Rizock, Revenant, Pesco, etc. and stuff.
Several times. (Failed horribly, but that's irrelevant )
« Last Edit: October 24, 2010, 08:19:09 PM by Dormio »

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #219 on: October 24, 2010, 08:20:29 PM »
you cant be worse than me at this lol

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #220 on: October 24, 2010, 08:22:07 PM »
Pretty sure I can if I'm playing Mokou.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #221 on: October 24, 2010, 08:22:34 PM »
You two!
1v1!
Towels only!

No wait.. you're both guys aren't you? :V
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 09:04:08 PM by I[Z]aba Tewi »

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #222 on: October 24, 2010, 08:32:10 PM »
You two!
1v1!
Towels only!

No wait.. you're both guys aren't you? :V

We are trying to gain more players Pesco but your Tewi freak acts are scaring them :V I will have to ask yo- no wait, FORCE you to stop this :V

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #223 on: October 24, 2010, 08:44:24 PM »
Pretty sure I can if I'm playing Mokou.

*nukes his own team with utsuho* yea pretty much how my last game went

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2010, 08:48:44 PM »
Judging from that, we'd totally make the greatest team.
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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #225 on: October 26, 2010, 10:49:23 PM »
What version do you guys usually play, Chinese or English?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #226 on: October 27, 2010, 04:41:36 AM »
I tried playing the Chinese version once, back a few years. Didn't like it that much. Is there a reason to play this over DotA, other than the Touhou theme?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #227 on: October 27, 2010, 07:14:43 AM »
What version do you guys usually play, Chinese or English?
We play mainly chinese version because it is the most updated version.

I tried playing the Chinese version once, back a few years. Didn't like it that much. Is there a reason to play this over DotA, other than the Touhou theme?
Aside from subjective opinions, no.

Edit: on second reading, if you played it a few years ago, the character balance was extremely horrible I heard. According to several people it seems to be better now. As well as having a new bigger map and more girls being added.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #228 on: October 27, 2010, 12:56:00 PM »
Anyone can give me Wc 3 link?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #230 on: October 29, 2010, 02:14:10 AM »
I tried playing the Chinese version once, back a few years. Didn't like it that much. Is there a reason to play this over DotA, other than the Touhou theme?

I don't think there's any reason to exclusively play only one AotZ style game. while it belongs to the same genre of rts as dota, it has some different mechanics such as the point and power up system, faith system, creeps scaling and some other stuff. I don't know what the map was like years ago, but I don't think there's any harm in giving the newer ones a try.

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #231 on: November 01, 2010, 06:32:05 PM »
yurop player here, I'll come see the channel when I dare to haul my ass off #sm.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 02:32:29 PM by Tapsa »

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #232 on: November 05, 2010, 02:21:56 PM »
Tommorow around 13:00 GMT+1 we will be trying to have some DoTS together with our GMT+manyhours bros (like TranceHime).

Preferred we have 8 jerks available for a 4vs4. Be there!

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #233 on: November 06, 2010, 05:57:46 PM »
New map out so here are some obligatory image dumps for translation purposes!

Nue! (All skills screenshotted at max level)

E Skill



D Skill



F Skill



G Skill



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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #234 on: November 06, 2010, 06:00:40 PM »
New Items

Clock



Scythe



Parasol



Yin-Yang



There are also probably some recipe changes and icon changes somewhere.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #235 on: November 07, 2010, 12:48:12 AM »
IDENTIFIED [E]
Pick a target. If the target is an illusion, the illusion is destroyed.
You deal damage to the enemy girl if it's real. You also silence them.

Cast Range: 400
Mana Cost: 80
Cooldown: 8

NIGHTMARE IN HEIANKYO [D]
Deals damage to the one who has been silenced. Enemy girls under this effect take more damage from Nue's skills for 12 seconds:

Normal Attack: 100%
Identified: 200%
Yorimasa's Bow: 300%
Unidentified: 400%
Other forms: No boost

Mana Cost: 80
Cooldown: 12

LV4 - Adds 40 bonus magic damage

GRUDGE BOW "THE BOW OF YORIMASA GENZANMI" [F]
Shoots a powerful arrow from far away, dealing damage to everything it passes through.

AoE: 1800 long * 140 wide
Range: 1800
Mana: 110
Cooldown: 6

LV4 - Deals 240 damage.

"GAME STAR'S PLAYSTATION BUG" [G]
Gain bonus EXP when killing creeps. When an enemy girl is defeated, cooldowns are reset.

LV4 - Bonus EXP is 30

UNIDENTIFIED "UFO INVASION OF TERROR" [W]
Pick a target. That target and those around it will be hit by heavy damage, and a stun. The spell has a 2 second cast time.

AoE: 400
Cast Range: 99999 (Global)
Mana Cost: 200
Cooldown: 120

LV3 - Deals 300 damage, 3.0 second stun

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #236 on: November 07, 2010, 03:51:43 AM »
thanks hime!

as a clarification for the D skill, from what I have observed

The bonus damage for skills (or specifically her F) is calculated this way

The skill gives a passive 10/20/30/40 magic damage bonus as a base. The amount of bonus skill damage is just the percent multiplier times this number, so using her F skill would deal an additional 120 damage with level 4 of the first skill. When the D skill is activated, her base bonus damage doubles, so in effect all her percents also double, thus 240 bonus damage on her F.

As for the silence and the enemy girls under this effect taking additional damage, I don't think that's part of the skill. Her E skill seems to only last about a second. Is there any other interpretation of it?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #237 on: November 07, 2010, 03:55:15 AM »
"GAME STAR'S PLAYSTATION BUG" [G]
Gain bonus EXP when killing creeps. When an enemy girl is defeated, cooldowns are reset.

LV1 - 15 bonus EXP, "Identified" and "Nightmare in Heiankyo" skills reset
LV2 - 20 bonus EXP,  "Bow of Yorimasa Genzanmi" skill reset
LV3 - 25 bonus EXP, "UFO Invasion of Terror" skill reset
LV4 - 30 bonus EXP, all skills reset

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #238 on: November 07, 2010, 08:54:21 AM »
/request TL

http://www.taihou.nl/item1.jpg Ball
http://www.taihou.nl/item2.jpg Umbrella
http://www.taihou.nl/item3.jpg Clock
http://www.taihou.nl/item4.jpg Scythe

If you can Hime, item name , requirements, effect and text.
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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #239 on: November 07, 2010, 01:45:55 PM »
1 - TAX-COLLECTING YIN-YANG ORB [692]
Requires ::
Recipe of Oz - 150
Nice Girl Card - 58
Little Screwdriver - 1600

Total Cost - 2500

All Stats + 5
INT + 5
Damage + 20

20% chance to gain 32 points upon last hitting a creep

2 - BLOOD-STAINED PARASOL [650]
Requires ::
ZUN Hat - 1200
Small Hammer - 1400
School Uniform - 550

Total - 3800

Damage + 25
HP + 180
Mana + 180

Grants a 4.0 armor Devotion Aura

3 - UNKNOWN STOPWATCH [600]
Requires ::
Recipe of Oz - 150
Basics of Wind Magic - 450
Lunar Landing Rocket Manual - 1000

Total - 2200

INT + 20
STR + 3

Causes a time-stop to occur around a certain area for 1.6 seconds.
Costs 50 mana, cast range of 800, 80 second cooldown.

4 - GREAT SCYTHE OF SHINIGAMI [Automatic]
Requires ::
God's Left Hand - 2100
Scissor - 1200
2 Desserts - 325 * 2 = 650

Total - 3950

STR + 20
Damage + 15
5% Lifesteal

Every normal attack, there is a 25% chance (melee) or 15% chance (ranged) to deal 18% of:
your.current.hp - target.current.hp
In magic damage. If you have less HP than your target, this passive does not work.
Orb effects do not stack
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