Miscellaneous Questions Thread 3 - Ask Question, Receive Answer

[Drake]

hey guys danmaku is all done in a 2d plane because that's what all the games show

[Sagus]

hey guys danmaku is all done in a 2d plane because that's what all the games show

It has bothered me for a while, so I just figured she created a wall of condensed time-stopped air particles, hence the glow. (Like her knives have when they're affected by Sakuya's powers  :derp:)

That's a (somewhat) silly theory though.

That's actually an interesting explanation, though, a pretty creative use of time-stopping and space-warping powers.

[Ikari]

I swear I stared for at least 5 minutes at this gif while laughing like a madman. I freaking love this thing xD

That's actually an interesting explanation, though, a pretty creative use of time-stopping and space-warping powers.

Thankies  I guess that in the end, it's not like ZUN's going to give any explanation, so random guesses are as good as developed theories.

[fondue]

Yeah that explanation was pretty interesting. I think that might be the answer...

[Hanzo K.]

I was actually thinking that myself oddly enough. Weird how two largely unrelated people reached the same conclusion around potentially the same time.

[Drake]

i hope you realize i was being facetious by taking the question and making another statement that is pointless for the exact same reason that your question is pointless

game visuals/mechanics/etc != something that actually happens

[Ikari]

I see no relation between Sakuya's unexplained magic guard and your statement. One is a specific visual effect that is asked what it's supposed to represent. The other is a vital part of the gameplay of most Touhou games.

Visuals =/= mechanics.

[Sagus]

i hope you realize i was being facetious by taking the question and making another statement that is pointless for the exact same reason that your question is pointless

game visuals/mechanics/etc != something that actually happens

I finished that statement with a  :V. I was not being serious about it.

Although it did generate an interesting response, so whateves.

[Zil]

One is a specific visual effect... The other is a vital part of the gameplay

But which one is which? D:

[Delfigamer]

That's all is interesting, but...

It has bothered me for a while, so I just figured she created a wall of condensed time-stopped air particles, hence the glow. (Like her knives have when they're affected by Sakuya's powers  :derp:)

Why stopped particles would glow? :3

[fondue]

That's all is interesting, but...Why stopped particles would glow? :3c

Not really sure. But Sakuya's 236B/C knives in Soku and SWR are sped up and they glow. So the glow could mean the objects are in displaced time. IDK TBH.

[Delfigamer]

Not really sure. But Sakuya's 236B/C knives in Soku and SWR are sped up and they glow. So the glow could mean the objects are in displaced time. IDK TBH.

I mean, an object with T~=0K wouldn't radiate any EM-waves.
About knives, well, their time is accelerated, and their molecules, when seen from outside, oscillate with higher frequency that is enough to resulting wave to be perceived by human's eye as light. Same with air around them.

However, why not just to take it easy? :3

[Sungho]

Bah, the next time I should say that Sunny Milk is messing with dielectric permittivities and changing the speed of light.

Anyways, a few questions about Extending Arm :
Is there any animal that CAN extend one arm by retracting the other arm? (No, not the Kipling Monkeys)
Nitori's Extending Arm is almost always shown as white gloved hands connected by a metal cord to her backpack.(or something like that).
Is this any reference to anything, or is it something too commonplace to nail a specific reference?
Was the mechanical hands in the backpack ever shown in official material?

That's three questions.

[AnonymousPondScum]

@Delfi and Fondue:

WHY ARE YOU TWO ATTEMPTING TO APPLY PHYSICS TO GENSOKYO.

[game2011]

Bah, the next time I should say that Sunny Milk is messing with dielectric permittivities and changing the speed of light.

Anyways, a few questions about Extending Arm :
Is there any animal that CAN extend one arm by retracting the other arm? (No, not the Kipling Monkeys)
Nitori's Extending Arm is almost always shown as white gloved hands connected by a metal cord to her backpack.(or something like that).
Is this any reference to anything, or is it something too commonplace to nail a specific reference?
Was the mechanical hands in the backpack ever shown in official material?

That's three questions.

I don't think Extending Arm has ever been shown in official materials.  Everything related to extendible mechanical arms that she has is made up by fans.

And please, Pasuhead, shouting isn't nice.

[fondue]

@Delfi and Fondue:

WHY ARE YOU TWO ATTEMPTING TO APPLY PHYSICS TO GENSOKYO.

And please, Pasuhead, shouting isn't nice.

N-not too loud...


I have another question. Since Rumia manipulates darkness, and darkness is the opposite of light, does that mean she has control over light to a certain degree? And vice versa with Sunny Milk?

[Ikari]

I have another question. Since Rumia manipulates darkness, and darkness is the opposite of light, does that mean she has control over light to a certain degree? And vice versa with Sunny Milk?

Actually, I've thought of that for a while.

Rumia doesn't really ''control darkness'' in the proper sense of the term; The most she can do is create an orb of darkness in which you can't see much, or make it like a summer night.

THUS! in conclusion, Rumia's ability is like Cirno, that is not to create/control what their power specify, but rather creating an absence of the opposite (Light/Heat), as neither cold nor darkness physically exist.

...In more simple terms, Rumia is a light-eater. So, unless you count that as ''controlling light'', then no.

Also Sunny controls light's refraction, not light itself.

[AnonymousPondScum]

I thought Cirno just controlled ice rather than cold. There's a difference.

[fondue]

Letty controls cold absence of heat, Cirno controls ice.

[AnonymousPondScum]

And please, Pasuhead, shouting isn't nice.

I was being facetious, but sorry anyway. :V

[Ikari]

Letty controls cold absence of heat, Cirno controls ice.

Right! Sorry.

I shouldn't call Cirno fat like that.

[Polaris]

Actually, both Letty and Cirno control cold. Letty controls '寒気' while Cirno controls '冷気', and both seem to translate to coldness in the same way. The important distinction is that Letty's version of cold is supposed to be lower in temperature (that is, colder) than Cirno's.

Edit:

Was the mechanical hands in the backpack ever shown in official material?

One of them appeared in Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 1.

[Sungho]

Also Sunny controls light's refraction, not light itself.

Light refracts because light travels in different speeds in different materials, in simpler terms.
Usually because the dielectric permittivity is different. (Sometimes the magnetic permeability also counts)

One of them appeared in Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 1.

Oops, I forgot to mention that that doesn't count. I want them to come out from backpacks, or something like that.
So I take it that there wasn't any other instance of mechanical Extending Arm?

[fondue]

Right! Sorry.

I shouldn't call Cirno fat like that.

oh u

Actually, both Letty and Cirno control cold. Letty controls '寒気' while Cirno controls '冷気', and both seem to translate to coldness in the same way. The important distinction is that Letty's version of cold is supposed to be lower in temperature (that is, colder) than Cirno's.

So does that mean Letty should be stronger and a higher stage boss than Cirno? Or does powers have nothing in common with skill of Danmaku battles?

[Ikari]

So does that mean Letty should be stronger and a higher stage boss than Cirno? Or does powers have nothing in common with skill of Danmaku battles?

Letty is actually, canonically, an insanely powerful youkai. She was going very easy on you in PCB because she knows spring has to arrive anyway.

[Starxsword]

Rumia doesn't really ''control darkness'' in the proper sense of the term; The most she can do is create an orb of darkness in which you can't see much, or make it like a summer night.

Rumia's darkness is magical. It blocks light in a stricter sense. An example that was used is that even if you have torchlight in the ball of darkness, there would be no light.

So does that mean Letty should be stronger and a higher stage boss than Cirno? Or does powers have nothing in common with skill of Danmaku battles?

Yeah, I think Letty was somewhat miffed that she was being compared to Cirno in I think Perfect Momento in Strict Sense.

[Ikari]

Rumia's darkness is magical. It blocks light in a stricter sense. An example that was used is that even if you have torchlight in the ball of darkness, there would be no light.

Wouldn't that just prove further the whole ''Rumia's actual power is to absorb light'', considering the torch's light has no effect instead of weakening?

[Delfigamer]

Perfect Momento

Huh.
________

I thought Rumiya, basically, represents human's fear of darkness. So, she cannot actually manipulate light, but she can worsen human's light perceiving on psychological level.
________

Alliterator, that's not just school phsycs, it is the Gensokyo Physics!
I wonder if magic power is measured in joules.

[Sagus]

So how about creating a "Explaining Gensokyo through physics and science" or something, eh
I don't think this is the best place to continue such discussions?

I could be wrong though

[game2011]

oh uSo does that mean Letty should be stronger and a higher stage boss than Cirno? Or does powers have nothing in common with skill of Danmaku battles?

It has already been stated what stage a boss appears in is not a factor for determining power level.