So the winrate is important argument is starting to spill out of just champions into tournament results now? Wonderful.
Slots at worlds isn't about region performance. If it was, Korea and China would have 5-6 slots each and everyone else would get 1 thanks to the fact that those 2 regions win every time. I imagine it has more to do with how much influence Riot has in each region. NA is where Riot is headquartered so they can market the game pretty easily here.
Define "badly". This is literally the first time not a single NA team has managed to make it out of group stages. If you wanna use that as an argument to take away a world's slot, then EU would've lost one last time when Alliance, Fnatic, and SK all got bounced before the quarters.
That's extrapolating Brazil's results to make a judgement across the entire region and downright ignoring the performance of the other wildcard team for convenience's sake. I can't guarantee how it would pan out if pain played another 11 games or if we brought in the #2 and #3 Brazilian teams, but at the very least comparing the winrates of all 3 teams from one region that gave a poor showing this time around as a whole to a single team from another region isn't good statistics.
I do wonder where your NA hate comes from. It sometimes seems like you're digging up excuses or purposefully twisting information to make the NA scene look bad, and I can't figure out a reason why. I recall that people have asked before, but you've given non-answers and avoided the question.
Define badly? Justify why NA should have a slot removed when EU didn't? Fine.
When was the last time NA made it past Quarters? Answer was
Season 1. When was the last time EU made it past Quarters? Season 3. And in Season 2 both CLG and M5 nearly made finals. NA has made it to Quarters every time? EU has made it to Semis every time except S4.
When was the last time NA won worlds? Never. EU has won Worlds.
And before the slots for the S5 world championship were announced; there was MSI. Where EU showed up and nearly took down SKT. NA? Oh yeah they failed and started a new meme about TSM. Maybe if EU crashed and burnt like NA was trashtalking then they might have lost a slot. But they didn't.
NA has constantly
not performed on the World stage. EU had 1 bad season. So arguing about EU in season 4 as a defense for NA not losing a spot is silly.
Why is extrapolating Pain's performance across an entire region relevant at all when I am talking about giving Brazil
1 slot? Brazil is significantly above the other IWC regions. And I'm saying to give them 1 slot. So only the best from Brazil goes. In which case why do the other teams from Brazil and their level matter?
And this dosen't counter the argument about the LMS getting 2/2 through while NA gets 0/3. Which; by the way; makes your accusation of me ignoreing parts of arguments laughable when you do the exact same. I'll admit Riot being American might stop it happening. But it's the ONLY justifiable reason.
It doesn't take a lot of information twisting to make NA look bad. It is. It is the worst major region by a long shot. Their #1 seed failed to get out of the easiest group. They didn't even have a team in Group C to excuse. [Where it was basically a given that EDG and SKT would go through]. And you know the worse thing? Look how TSM/CLG/C9 in form make the rest of NA look. Now look how the rest of the world makes them look.
And yes; the sample size for Brazil is small. But it doesn't change the fact that their wins came from 1: Beating NA's #1 seed; and 2: Beating a team which beat NA's #1 seed [Rending any 'CLG was clowning' argument moot]. And again; I am not talking about BKT or the IWC as a whole; so their 0% winrate is irrelevant. I am specifically talking about Brazil; the only wildcard region to ever take games. Pain was 1 win off Quarters.
b/c he's in EU and thinks that the EU vs NA thing is a real rivalry and not just a meme
Hate is one thing. Talking about facts and how it's kinda unfair for NA to have 3 slots if Worlds is to give the best a chance to compete when NA gets 0/3 through and has a lower winrate than a wildcard region and LMS gets 2/2 is another.
If it was
hate I would be saying make NA take the Wildcard Tourny because of the lower winrate than Brazil had. I'd be calling NA a wildcard region outright. But I cannot see a reason to justify NA keeping it's 3rd worlds slot anymore. A 10 loss-streak; 0/3 teams qualifying; and a lower winrate than Brazil? After 4 seasons of being seen internationally as by far the weakest region; and performing generally to match? International Wildcards had 6 games this week and won 1; and 2 of those games were against SKT/EDG. NA had 10 games and won 0; and none of them were against SKT/EDG. What does that say?
Maybe such a step would wake up the NA scene and kick them up the butt to actually improve. Maybe if that happens and they do well S6 they can have their slot back.
But frankly after 4 seasons of watching Worlds and other international events and NA basically being clowns at the event every time who barely make it into Quarters and then get stomped there; I'm a little sour about NA having 3 slots while LMS has 2.
And this argument has nothing to do with EU. It's simply 'Does NA deserve 3 slots while the LMS has 2'. And the answer is 'No.' You could easily direct this argument to China and even EU. But NA is the weakest of those 3.
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In completely non-ranty news; I got 49 points on my Pick'em; beating all of the 'Celebrities' [Lol QTPie with 15 points]; and putting me in the top ~2.2% of predictors.
