Wow. There I come back from not visiting any but my subscribed to threads, and what I find before myself is this the Touhou Smash game in this situation. Whatever ?this? situation even is, I really don?t know.
Probably the biggest case of ?Unfortunate incident due to a lack of proper communication? in the history of Touhou, if not even more.
I know that I haven?t posted anything on this or the game?s original thread, since I preferred to stay a lurker until I actually had something to say outside of ?this game looks promising?, but if this situation one I want to give my own two cents to, then I don?t know.
I just read through all 22 (oh, we?re at 23 already?) pages on this thread, and it took me six hours to get through this heated argument. So I do get the reasoning behind FSS saying that FB and YT are quicker to respond to and thus higher priority? sort of. Also being quicker to get something done shouldn?t be the primary reason for doing something first, but that?s in the past now anyways.
What I don?t get, though, is why you from FSS had the time to make, what did you say, a video that took you 19 hours to make, and yet couldn?t read through a thread that a non-native-English speaker who thus takes longer to read could get through in 6 hours?
I?m not trying to be rude (although I probably am, sorry for that), I?m just curious as of why you thought it would be a good idea to essentially waste a lot of time during the most heated time of this incident?
@Saijee: I hope you?re still reading this thread here. I really hope you?ll rethink your idea of making your game into a non-Touhou game, for two reasons:
1. You claim you want to get your game more accessible through making it available on WiiU and Steam. However, as others, and even YOU have noted before, a huge appeal to Smash Bros is the fact that you have a lot of your favorite characters from different games duking it out. Heck, that?s MY reason for buying Smash 4!
And now you?re saying, making your game with random nobodies who have attacks and color palettes resembling those of Touhou characters will get more people to play it? Without some recognizable/ recognized characters, what does your game have that Smash4 doesn?t? Better gameplay? Perhaps. But how many gems have been buried under the piles of trash that we keep getting, that are overlooked just because these games haven?t been made by AAA companies and/ or don?t have any IPs on them?
2. If you really back down from making this into a Touhou game, you look like a big scammer, trying to get money and/ or attention by sullying the good name of Touhou. (Which will damage your own reputation and possibly that of more western Touhou artists.)
I know that this is not the case (or at least that?s what I hope to be the case, seeing how your project started and everything seemed to be like an earnest effort to get this game out and be one of the best Touhou games possible), but it still might, nay, it does look like this to everybody not being here from the beginning.
Either way, I really hope you?re game does get finished, with or without Touhou content.
(Even though I?ll probably not follow this project anymore if it?s not Touhou anymore, but that?s beside the point.)
As a side note, one more point about that Chinese crowdfunded or whatever Touhou fan game:
I don?t really get why this got so much attention in this thread (or from FSS) to begin with. Even if matters seem similar: It doesn?t matter. To FSS, their own incident should be the only one to focus on, and saying ?but those people are also in the wrong? really doesn?t matter right now. Once everything with this game is sorted out, then you can go and complain about the other game. But whatever, I think I?m bringing unneeded attention to this topic again. I just wanted to share my two cents on this.
Thanks to all the people who have contributed here, as this discussion has told me A LOT about Doujin Culture that I hadn?t know about, either (as in, pretty much everything), and has even clarified why ZUN has set up his guidelines the way he has.
If anybody has the time in the future, you should really copy some of the key points on Doujin Culture into an own separate thread (and make it sticky), so next time, people will be informed about the doujin culture BEFORE another crowdfunding project is being started (and trust me, the people who WOULD start another crowdfunding project will have forgotten or never even heard of this affair here in one or two years).
Holy heck this thread updates fast. In case some of my points have already been said (multiple times) by the time I?m posting this, I?m sorry, but I take decades to write a post. ^^;
