Minecraft - The block building thread

[Shady_Ghost]

Assuming that the Sheep spawners still work with the same efficiency as before, the Wool Center will always be operational. I don't plan on making spawners for the other mobs, as that would make the game too easy. :V I suggest making your own breeding grounds for your animals. I'm not exactly sure if the animals don't de-spawn when left alone.. That will be one of the many things that we'll find out in the long run.

Well the wiki says animals never despawn but there's always the possibility that there's a smp bug with it.

[Nicole Artist]

Assuming that the Sheep spawners still work with the same efficiency as before, the Wool Center will always be operational. I don't plan on making spawners for the other mobs, as that would make the game too easy. :V I suggest making your own breeding grounds for your animals. I'm not exactly sure if the animals don't de-spawn when left alone.. That will be one of the many things that we'll find out in the long run.

Ive been playing on other servers. they stay.

[Shady_Ghost]

Ive been playing on other servers. they stay.

TRAITOR!  Though admittedly I have thought of going to other servers.  But I'm pretty sure if I did it'd probably be to troll some peeps.  I mean WHO DOESNT WANT POVERTY ART!?

[Dr.Strafe]

Does this mean that I should deconstruct the Wool Center? (or at least not import it?)

[Nicole Artist]

Does this mean that I should deconstruct the Wool Center? (or at least not import it?)

Wool baised construction goes down by 200%
Edit: (sunny dies from spelling)

[Shady_Ghost]

Does this mean that I should deconstruct the Wool Center? (or at least not import it?)

IVE SAID THIS FROM THE BEGINNING.  But i mean i think there are ways to breed certain colors so making a sheep farm might pay off in the long run if you need a lot of one color.

Wool biased construction goes down by 200%

What kind of bias does wool have against construction? 

[Dr.Strafe]

The problem with sheep breeding farms is the long wait for the babies to grow up. I'll think about decommissioning the Wool Center between now and Saturday.

EDIT- .... The word you want is "based".

[DX7.EP]

And instead of playing MC I've been working on TGTA Vmod, debugging lots of crap along the way :V

I've tried a fair share of other servers in the past but they were for the most part Creative buildfests, full of childish players (and griefers but they're another segment), and/or ran some mods such as Factions, WW2 tanks, and iConomy that really soured the semi-vanilla experience. So this server is the only one I really play on.

Does this mean that I should deconstruct the Wool Center? (or at least not import it?)

...that would be the cue that the Wool Centre faced anti-trust regulations and thus was ordered to shut down. If that is the case RecettEP would likely be next for that :A

Wool biased construction goes down by 200%

Tomorrow's headlines: Sheep Communes Association Launches Propaganda Campaign and Bouvines League United Reports Record Market Share

What kind of bias does wool have against construction? 

It's called 'dividing the share of wool between pixel art, domestic goods, paintings, and the bed factory'.

I'll think about decommissioning the Wool Center between now and Saturday.

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sudo kill strafe_wool_center -reason:"It also spawned zombies in the mechanism :V" --pw "It makes the game too easy :V (TM)"
I think I solved that despite the psuedo-Terminal :colonveeplusalpha:
(on an off-note, though, apparently our server runs on CentOS, which is Red Hat/Fedora-based)

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Wool baised construction goes down by 200%

...OK, fewer mockeries from this one but still a bit disconcerting.

[Shady_Ghost]

The problem with sheep breeding farms is the long wait for the babies to grow up. I'll think about decommissioning the Wool Center between now and Saturday.

It's like one day in-game time for them to grow up >.> But yeah I see your point.

[HakureiSM]

It's like one day in-game time for them to grow up >.> But yeah I see your point.

It's 20 minutes real time. Which is a lot if you need 10 stacks of wool fast. Plus ranches are really a pain in the ass to deal with if you want to breed really large numbers.
They're best just for food growing, or chicken because they're small.

[Shady_Ghost]

Hmmm that is true.  And if sheep feed ever gets implemented again then oh god.  So yeah I guess a sheep spawner is too easy the way to go.  So now breeding has been devalued to food purposes and lol we have farms with megatons of everything.  At this rate you'll ruin enchantments and potions somehow too >:V /sarcasm  Though you know me and I complain a lot about these things :V  Still I guess it is important for those of you who need large amounts of things. 

[Agent of the BSoD]

The good thing about the wool center would be, obviously, the fast wool, but it would unbalance exp. orbs. Unless there was a way to turn that off for sheep.

[PX]

Sheep Grinder, duh?

[Dr.Strafe]

Yeah, Experience grinding is the main reason I'm considering doing away with the Wool Center. I was just about to declare it a "necessary evil" for the sake of obtaining wool easily, as the aging of the baby sheep takes too bloody long. 20 minutes, wow. However, you guys reminded me of the Sheep Feed mod, which we will likely be keeping, so...

The scale just tilted incredibly toward doing away with the Center again. :V

[Shady_Ghost]

Yeah, Experience grinding is the main reason I'm considering doing away with the Wool Center. I was just about to declare it a "necessary evil" for the sake of obtaining wool easily, as the aging of the baby sheep takes too bloody long. 20 minutes, wow. However, you guys reminded me of the Sheep Feed mod, which we will likely be keeping, so...

The scale just tilted incredibly toward doing away with the Center again. :V

If you grind sheep for xp you're clearly doing it wrong.
Passive mobs drop only 1-3 exp
while hostile mobs drop 5 exp
and like I've said before it takes killing 1785 hostile mobs to get to levels which would be at absolute worst 5x more passive mobs to kill.  However you should still get rid of the center :V

[Dr.Strafe]

I'm aware of that, but there are people that want XP without the threat of getting killed. Those pansies would likely hide in the Wool Center.

As I'm going through my Hardcore game, I'm noticing that sheep are everywhere. Groups of four every so often. I mean, damn.

[Shady_Ghost]

I'm aware of that, but there are people that want XP without the threat of getting killed. Those pansies would likely hide in the Wool Center.

As I'm going through my Hardcore game, I'm noticing that sheep are everywhere. Groups of four every so often. I mean, damn.

Wow that's some dedication there if you wanna spend that long grinding xp.  So you're a walking sheep spawner strafe?  Cuz that's what your making it sound like :V

[Dr.Strafe]

So you're a walking sheep spawner strafe?  Cuz that's what your making it sound like :V

Clearly the game wants me to build some sprites, since that's more important than food. :V If I didn't find a small pocket of pigs and chickens in the beginning, I'd be screwed by now.

[HakureiSM]

The xp dropping didn't even cross my minds, whoops

[PX]

How about an automatic sheep killing machine so you get the wool without the exp?!

[Shady_Ghost]

How about an automatic sheep killing machine so you get the wool without the exp?!

You do realize that's kinda inefficient compared to shears =/

[PX]

But everyone is complaining about the EXP farm, not the efficiency, and this requires no effort from the player :V

[HakureiSM]

How about a machine that combines the sheep spawner with a water flow leading them to a death trap so you can hit them with the shears, then they're subsequently led to die

Or is this too complicated

[Shady_Ghost]

But if we have that sheepfeed thing that strafe we will be likely keeping then you only need 1 sheep and a megaton of wheat technically.

How about a machine that combines the sheep spawner with a water flow leading them to a death trap so you can hit them with the shears, then they're subsequently led to die

Or is this too complicated

It could work but yeah i'd guess it'd be kinda complicated due to the redstone and the design.

[Dr.Strafe]

How about a machine that combines the sheep spawner with a water flow leading them to a death trap so you can hit them with the shears, then they're subsequently led to die

Or is this too complicated

Actually, I was building such a machine here recently. It had a sheep spawner that fed sheep to a narrow canal of water. The sheep would be carried into the canal, where you could shear them through an open slot to the side. Through some careful placement with pistons and water flow, the wool would be carried out to you. You would then step on a plate to disengage some pistons, which would let the water carry the sheep into a lava pit.

It worked well on paper, but not quite as well in execution. The "first" sheep would try tirelessly to escape through the "wool slot", which it couldn't fit through. It would just continue to jump there, spazzing and clipping through the blocks surrounding the canal. Ultimately, I decided that the layout of the Wool Center was not only more efficient, but the Experience gained was an added bonus.

Although, I'm sure the design could be tweaked to fix those problems and become more efficient... I might fool around with it again sometime later

[PX]

Really, I don't give a crap about the sheep, I use wolves to just kill them off quickly. If you want to use the sheep to grind EXP, have fun then.

[HakureiSM]

What about if you keep the narrow canal, hold the sheep with a trapdoor while you feed it/them with wheat and shear it/them, then when you open the trapdoor it gets carried away in the flow to die?

[Shady_Ghost]

Yeah PX has the right idea. if you wanna spend hours grinding sheep go ahead.  I could kill an enderdragon in shorter time im sure and have a significantly higher xp value.  So honestly I wouldnt bother.

[PX]

Sheep Spawn -> Canal to a Drowning trap
Player stands under the drowning trap, so you can then sheer them
Sheep Drown, all spoils fall onto the player
I could probably do this in a few minutes

[HakureiSM]

... or that.