Author Topic: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation  (Read 63196 times)

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #840 on: April 14, 2010, 12:05:54 PM »
Did the other relevant persons ask for the cremation of the grandmother? Was it her own request?

To make sure: The other people involved are also part of the extended family including both the grandmother and the people that ate her ashes, right?

Were the ashes sent to the receiving family due to a particular personal closeness they had to the grandmother, beyond simply being family (favorite son, eldest son, etc)? Is it due to the location they were at, such as the grandmother's childhood home? Were they sent there on request from the grandmother before her death?

Did the other people involved have a professional relationship with the family that received the ashes? Their family doctor? Physician? Or were they treated more as family? Friends? Acquaintances? Is this relevant?

Was the urn accompanied by a letter or other communication? That was misinterpreted? Were the ashes eaten (in part) due to a lack of information about them? Was a letter or other communication intended to be received first/at the same time, but didn't arrive properly? Was the family expecting something similar in appearance to arrive in the mail for other reasons? Was the sender of the urn clear to them?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #841 on: April 14, 2010, 12:22:09 PM »
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Did the other relevant persons ask for the cremation of the grandmother?
IRRELEVANT

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Was it her own request?
YES

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To make sure: The other people involved are also part of the extended family including both the grandmother and the people that ate her ashes, right?
YES

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Were the ashes sent to the receiving family due to a particular personal closeness they had to the grandmother, beyond simply being family (favorite son, eldest son, etc)?
YES

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Is it due to the location they were at, such as the grandmother's childhood home? Were they sent there on request from the grandmother before her death?
YES to both

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Did the other people involved have a professional relationship with the family that received the ashes? Their family doctor? Physician? Or were they treated more as family? Friends? Acquaintances?
NO to all. The relationship was basically that of a normal family, though there is something special to it. So, YES, the relationship between the two parts of the family is RELEVANT

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Was the urn accompanied by a letter or other communication?
I dunno if it counts as 'other communication', but there was something else with the urn, YES

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That was misinterpreted?
The 'something else' led to the misinterpretation, YES

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Were the ashes eaten (in part) due to a lack of information about them?
YES

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Was a letter or other communication intended to be received first/at the same time, but didn't arrive properly?
UNKNOWN. An explaining letter arrived later than the urn, whether that was intentional or not is UNKNOWN and IRRELEVANT to the riddle.

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Was the family expecting something similar in appearance to arrive in the mail for other reasons?
Kind of, YES. It ties together with the 'something else' from before.

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Was the sender of the urn clear to them?
YES

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #842 on: April 14, 2010, 12:24:51 PM »
Don't tell me they sent both vitamins and funeral ashes in the same package...
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #843 on: April 14, 2010, 12:30:12 PM »
Don't tell me they sent both vitamins and funeral ashes in the same package...
NO. You're close though, and the real answer isn't much better  :V

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #844 on: April 14, 2010, 02:28:50 PM »
I'm not sure if you people will be satisfied or really disappointed with the end of this one  :V

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #845 on: April 14, 2010, 05:50:11 PM »
Did the two parts of the family dislike each other? Was only the 'other' side significantly involved in Grandma's elderly-life care? Was the grandma-eating part of the family relatively uninvolved in following Grandma's current condition before her death? Is the relevant link between the families related primarily to the grandmother?

Does the families' special relationship relevantly relate to: special generous provision/giveaway of goods? Friendly pranks or jokes? Something special about marriage setups between the groups? Genders? Generations? Age? Location? Physical attributes? Social attributes? Which of these are relevant?

Is the nature of the "vitamins" relevant? Is their (perceived) importance relevant? Were they thought to be for genuinely medical purposes (necessary supplements for an existing medical condition)? Other supplements (cultural vitality/sexual potency beliefs, complementary vitamins to maintain good health/cover nutrition despite poor diet)? Placebo such as most types of homeopathic medication (zing)?

There was another item included with the urn, right? Did it have any writing on it? Any special significance to the family segment that ate the ashes? The other family portion?

Did the other family send the ashes to the eater family?

Is a particular botchup in package or letter transportation relevant?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #846 on: April 14, 2010, 05:57:45 PM »
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Did the two parts of the family dislike each other?
NO

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Was only the 'other' side significantly involved in Grandma's elderly-life care?
Was the grandma-eating part of the family relatively uninvolved in following Grandma's current condition before her death?
Actually, UNKNOWN, but I' say you can assume YES to both.

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Is the relevant link between the families related primarily to the grandmother?
NO

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Does the families' special relationship relevantly relate to: special generous provision/giveaway of goods? Location?
YES to those two

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Friendly pranks or jokes? Something special about marriage setups between the groups? Genders? Generations? Age?  Physical attributes? Social attributes? Which of these are relevant?
NO to the rest

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Is the nature of the "vitamins" relevant? Is their (perceived) importance relevant?
Were they thought to be for genuinely medical purposes (necessary supplements for an existing medical condition)?
NO

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Other supplements (cultural vitality/sexual potency beliefs, complementary vitamins to maintain good health/cover nutrition despite poor diet)?
YES, see bolded part

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Placebo such as most types of homeopathic medication (zing)?
NO

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There was another item included with the urn, right?
YES

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Did it have any writing on it?
NO

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Any special significance to the family segment that ate the ashes?
YES

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The other family portion?
Dunno if it was that significant to them, maybe YES, but more like IRRELEVANT.

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Did the other family send the ashes to the eater family?
YES

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Is a particular botchup in package or letter transportation relevant?
NO. Assume all transport happened as planned.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #847 on: April 14, 2010, 06:31:47 PM »
Was the eating family eating poorly? From famine? Poverty? Oppression?

Did the two family segments live in the same nation? Is the amount of distance between them (aside from "having to send packages to send stuff to one another") relevant?

Was the other sent item a religious symbol? Something the grandmother owned? Something the grandmother kept close to her at all times, typically? Something that originated from the house/location her ashes were sent to? Did it resemble something else that was misinterpreted as a symbol for a vitamin supplement? Are its origins relevant?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #848 on: April 14, 2010, 06:42:52 PM »
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Was the eating family eating poorly?
YES

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From famine? Poverty? Oppression?
NO. Poverty might come close, but there's a more general reason for the family's condition.

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Did the two family segments live in the same nation?
NO

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Is the amount of distance between them (aside from "having to send packages to send stuff to one another") relevant?
NO

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Was the other sent item a religious symbol? Something the grandmother owned? Something the grandmother kept close to her at all times, typically? Something that originated from the house/location her ashes were sent to?
NO to all

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Did it resemble something else that was misinterpreted as a symbol for a vitamin supplement?
NO, not directly. Let's say that the nature of the other items (there were multiple) made it reasonable for the family to assume there may also be vitamins.

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Are its origins relevant?
Only as far as that it comes from the other family.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #849 on: April 14, 2010, 09:42:04 PM »
Was the urn included with medical supplies? Food? Money? Could it be called a 'donation?'

Is the reason for the eater family not eating well relevant? Are they refugees? Is it an issue of scarcity of food? Of a specific type of food? Of a specific group of foods (meats, grains, fruits, etc)?

Are there any other geographical details beyond "different nations and distance" that are relevant? (Heck, is 'different nations' relevant?)
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #850 on: April 15, 2010, 06:37:00 AM »
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Was the urn included with medical supplies?
NO

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Food?
YES

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Money? Could it be called a 'donation?'
NO. I don't think the term donation applies here.

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Is the reason for the eater family not eating well relevant?
YES

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Are they refugees?
NO

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Is it an issue of scarcity of food?
Most likely, YES

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Of a specific type of food? Of a specific group of foods (meats, grains, fruits, etc)?
Could be, but IRRELEVANT

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Are there any other geographical details beyond "different nations and distance" that are relevant? (Heck, is 'different nations' relevant?)
I'd say YES. The riddle makes more sense if the other nation is discovered.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #851 on: April 15, 2010, 06:46:37 PM »
Is this incident following a disaster of some sort?

Is the nation Haiti?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #852 on: April 15, 2010, 07:28:43 PM »
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Is this incident following a disaster of some sort?
NOt a disaster, but you're close.

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Is the nation Haiti?
NO. The 'receiving' families nation has already been unveiled by me. And Haiti wouldn't make any sense as the 'sending' famlies home.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #853 on: April 15, 2010, 08:28:40 PM »
NO. The 'receiving' families nation has already been unveiled by me. And Haiti wouldn't make any sense as the 'sending' famlies home.
Err, yeah. *whop*

Is it following war?

Is it part of war reparations?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #854 on: April 15, 2010, 09:43:25 PM »
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Is it following war?
YES.

With this, nearly everything important has been discovered. It's time to try and get some complete theories out there.


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Is it part of war reparations?
NO

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #855 on: April 15, 2010, 11:35:21 PM »
A family caught in Germany during a war could not get food on their own, and relied on another branch of the family to send food to them. The grandmother of the family lived outside of Germany, and wanted to have her ashes sent back to her home when she died. When she did, the funeral ashes were sent to Germany along with the food they expected to receive... and were taken to be vitamins.
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #856 on: April 16, 2010, 06:55:40 AM »
A family caught in Germany during a war could not get food on their own, and relied on another branch of the family to send food to them. The grandmother of the family lived outside of Germany, and wanted to have her ashes sent back to her home when she died. When she did, the funeral ashes were sent to Germany along with the food they expected to receive... and were taken to be vitamins.
YES

After the war the family was sent packages containing food by their relatives in America.
One day a container with a grey powder was in the package.
The family thought it to be vitamins and every member of the family took a spoonful of it everyday.
Some weeks later a letter from America arrived.
In it, the relatives informed them that the grandmother had died
and that, according to her will,
her ashes had been sent to her home-country Germany...


Hehe, well done, well done.
Even though it was mostly a one-man...er... one-mouse feat towards the end.
This was, from my experience, one of the more complicated riddles, especially if the gamemaster insists on most details.
You have, however, wonderfully solved this without getting distracted about unneccessary details even once.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 32: A Spoonful of Grandma
« Reply #857 on: April 18, 2010, 08:01:33 AM »
And here we go.
The goddess of luck has decided on the next riddle,
which shall be:

Case 33: Cursed Vacation
When the man came back from the toilet, his nice vacation was over.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #858 on: April 18, 2010, 08:55:27 AM »
Was any death involved at all?
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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #859 on: April 19, 2010, 03:56:11 AM »
Did the visit to the toilet end his vacation being nice? Did it end the vacation itself?
If not, then did what happened after leaving the toilet end his vacation being nice? End the vacation itself?

Is there metaphor involved in the initial statement? Wordplay?

Is it significant that it was a man?

Is the toilet significant? Is it in a washroom? Outhouse? Elsewhere?

Was the man physically injured?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #860 on: April 19, 2010, 05:42:45 AM »
Where did the man come back to? Is the location significant?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #861 on: April 19, 2010, 06:10:08 AM »
Alright, back from photographing cherry blossoms~

*Ahem*

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Was any death involved at all?
NO

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Did the visit to the toilet end his vacation being nice?
YES

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Did it end the vacation itself?
YES

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If not, then did what happened after leaving the toilet end his vacation being nice? End the vacation itself?
YES to that as well, meaning it was not the visit to the toilet in itself that ended the vacation

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Is there metaphor involved in the initial statement? Wordplay?
NO

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Is it significant that it was a man?
NOt neccessarily. Could have been a woman as well.

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Is the toilet significant?
YES

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Is it in a washroom? Outhouse? Elsewhere?
IRRELEVANT

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Was the man physically injured?
NO

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Where did the man come back to?
I do not see a Yes-No-question here, Sir.

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Is the location significant?
YES

Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #862 on: April 19, 2010, 06:12:09 AM »
Oh, sorry didn't look at rules >_<

So was exiting the toilet to a certain place the cause of the end of the man's vacation?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #863 on: April 19, 2010, 06:18:52 AM »
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Oh, sorry didn't look at rules >_<
No problem, now you know  :D

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So was exiting the toilet to a certain place the cause of the end of the man's vacation?
NO. The exiting was not the cause. It was just an action  which made the man realize the cause.

Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #864 on: April 19, 2010, 06:24:19 AM »
Did he eat something he wasn't supposed to?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #865 on: April 19, 2010, 06:25:09 AM »
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Did he eat something he wasn't supposed to?
NO

Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #866 on: April 19, 2010, 06:45:29 AM »
Did he flush something he wasn't supposed to?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #867 on: April 19, 2010, 06:46:44 AM »
Was he returning from using the toilet for its (primary) intended purpose? To throw up in? Anything else? Did he directly use the toilet at all? Is its usage relevant?

Was it a publicly-usable (i.e. not household) toilet? Is that relevant?

Are financial issues directly significant? Romantic? Sexual? Physical health? Safety? Freedoms? Responsibilities?

Did he return from the toilet under his own power?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #868 on: April 19, 2010, 07:30:20 AM »
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Did he flush something he wasn't supposed to?
NO

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Was he returning from using the toilet for its (primary) intended purpose? Did he directly use the toilet at all?
YES, therefore...

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To throw up in? Anything else?  Is its usage relevant?
...these here all get a NO

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Was it a publicly-usable (i.e. not household) toilet? Is that relevant?
YES and YES

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Are financial issues directly significant? Romantic? Sexual? Physical health? Safety? Freedoms? Responsibilities?
NO. I don't think any of these terms really fits.

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Did he return from the toilet under his own power?
YES

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation
« Reply #869 on: April 19, 2010, 08:20:10 AM »
Was the specific action he did in the toilet important?

Did he eject something that shouldn't have come out of his body?