Author Topic: Black Stories ~ Touhou Edition - Case 20: Down to the bottom of Misty Lake!  (Read 70488 times)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 7: A Strange Corpse
« Reply #360 on: January 28, 2010, 02:51:16 PM »
I have to admit, that case was definitely something new to me. Haha.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 7: A Strange Corpse
« Reply #361 on: January 28, 2010, 02:56:44 PM »
Sweet, I didn't think I'd be right!

For those curious, the folks at Mythbusters had a go at it, and determined that it wasn't really possible to suck up a person with the kind of pump that a typical firefighting helicopter would use. Still, drama is more fun than realism, so a good case.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 7: A Strange Corpse
« Reply #362 on: January 28, 2010, 03:14:26 PM »
Sweet, I didn't think I'd be right!
Hm, it seems that was a lucky shot, eh?
I don't really know how to feel about you solving it by knowing the solution from somewhere else,
I feel a bit bad for the others who where still working hard on the case.

Just for future reference, if anyone thinks they know the solution from a show or something, not by their own imagination/ combination, that will fall under the 'PM me before trying to solve'-rule.
This is to keep the game enjoyable for every player.

Think of it as our 'Codex of Honor'  :)



Anyway, now that his one is solved, let's move on to the next.
This one will definitely be hard, and I am not sure it will be solvable without hints at some point, but let us see about that.



Eighth Case: Murder Without Consequences
A woman shot her husband.
The police took her into custody, but let her free a short while later.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 7: A Strange Corpse
« Reply #363 on: January 28, 2010, 03:15:58 PM »
Was the woman intending to shoot her husband?

If not, was she intending to shoot someone else threatening her husband?

Was she actually shooting at her husband, but told the police otherwise?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 7: A Strange Corpse
« Reply #364 on: January 28, 2010, 03:19:00 PM »
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Was the woman intending to shoot her husband?
YES

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If not, was she intending to shoot someone else threatening her husband?
NO. See above

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Was she actually shooting at her husband, but told the police otherwise?
NO (as an answer to the second part, just to be clear)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #365 on: January 28, 2010, 03:22:05 PM »
Did her husband die?

Did she shoot with a gun?

Did her husband get hit by a bullet?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #366 on: January 28, 2010, 03:24:17 PM »
Did her husband get hit by a bullet?

Was it a bullet that would be considered a standard bullet (as in, a bullet meant for killing someone)?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #367 on: January 28, 2010, 03:33:04 PM »
Was the woman acting in self-defense?
Is her husband a real person?

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Just for future reference, if anyone thinks they know the solution from a show or something, not by their own imagination/ combination, that will fall under the 'PM me before trying to solve'-rule.
Righto!
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #368 on: January 28, 2010, 03:42:15 PM »
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Did her husband die?
YES

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Did she shoot with a gun?
YES

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Did her husband get hit by a bullet?
YES

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Was it a bullet that would be considered a standard bullet (as in, a bullet meant for killing someone)?
YES

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Was the woman acting in self-defense?
NO

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Is her husband a real person?
YES //Reading that question, I just had an idea about a case where an otaku kills his virtual waifu  :V

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #369 on: January 28, 2010, 03:46:30 PM »
YES //Reading that question, I just had an idea about a case where an otaku kills his virtual waifu  :V

Had an approximately similar thought. :V

I wonder how far I can go with subjectivity in these questions:

Is the man the victim in this case OR the woman the "bad guy"? (working with Boolean operators)

Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #370 on: January 28, 2010, 03:47:57 PM »
Did the police determine correctly whether she shot the victim in question or not?

Was the will of the Husband involved in whether the woman was let go or not?

Is everyone involved a human? (I really don't know where to go with this.)

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #371 on: January 28, 2010, 03:48:24 PM »
So the woman has not commited any crime?
Is there anything unusual about the law in the city the case in set in that allows killing?

Did the woman directly shot his husband to death with a gun?
(I realised this was actually not confirmed! It could've been the woman shot something else and another bullet hit the husband, lol. Though it's highly unlikely, these cases tend to make unlikely things occur, and we all know how much difference a little change in wording of the question can make. XD)

Is the place where the murder commited relevant?

Is there any third person involved in the killing?

Is the occupation of the woman relevant?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 03:50:21 PM by Thaws »

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #372 on: January 28, 2010, 03:53:30 PM »
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Is the man the victim in this case OR the woman the "bad guy"? (working with Boolean operators)
I'll divide that into two questions (man = victim?, woman = bad guy?) and answer both with YES

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Did the police determine correctly whether she shot the victim in question or not?
YES

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Was the will of the Husband involved in whether the woman was let go or not?
NO

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Is everyone involved a human? (I really don't know where to go with this.)
YES. It's a good question, you never know, right?

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So the woman has not commited any crime?
Please rephrase, the answer can be misinterpreted if I answer the question as it is.

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Is there anything unusual about the law in the city the case in set in that allows killing?
NO

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Did the woman directly shot his husband to death with a gun?
YES. It's 'her' husband, by the way  ;)

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Is the place where the murder commited relevant?
NO

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Is there any third person involved in the killing?
NO

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Is the occupation of the woman relevant?
NO

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #373 on: January 28, 2010, 03:56:24 PM »
Are the police corrupt in a relevant manner?

Edit: don't tell me I know this one as well. PM incoming.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #374 on: January 28, 2010, 03:59:33 PM »
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Are the police corrupt in a relevant manner?
NO


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Edit: don't tell me I know this one as well. PM incoming.
Good boy  ;D

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #375 on: January 28, 2010, 04:09:19 PM »
Is the husband about to die even if he wasn't going to be shot?

Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #376 on: January 28, 2010, 04:17:35 PM »
Do the police believe the Man should have died?

By "Set her free" Does this mean she was allowed to return to her normal daily life, albeit as a widow?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #377 on: January 28, 2010, 04:32:48 PM »
The woman shot her because her husband was terminally ill, and asked her to kill him. So she shot him to put him out of his misery. She told the police what had happened and they set her free.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #378 on: January 28, 2010, 04:34:16 PM »
^I'm pretty sure that's still against the law in any place, but we should question the woman's motivations.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #379 on: January 28, 2010, 04:35:43 PM »
Was the bullet targeting a vital organ?

Was the man expecting to be shot soon?

Was the woman set free due to legal procedures?

EDIT: I have a random idea: The woman was arrested by the police. They somehow screwed up during the arrest with her rights and such and therefore had to let her go.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 04:37:26 PM by That Guy »

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #380 on: January 28, 2010, 04:37:13 PM »
Assisted suicide is legal in some places

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #381 on: January 28, 2010, 04:37:38 PM »
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Is the husband about to die even if he wasn't going to be shot?
NO

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Do the police believe the Man should have died?
NO

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By "Set her free" Does this mean she was allowed to return to her normal daily life, albeit as a widow?
YES. It also means there would be no consequences for her actions, as stated in the case title.

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The woman shot her because her husband was terminally ill, and asked her to kill him. So she shot him to put him out of his misery. She told the police what had happened and they set her free.
NO

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Was the bullet targeting a vital organ?
IRRELEVANT

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Was the man expecting to be shot soon?
IRRELEVANT, but probably NO

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Was the woman set free due to legal procedures?
YES

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #382 on: January 28, 2010, 04:39:35 PM »
Did the woman know anyone in the police force?
Did the woman dislike her husband for any reason?
Was her husband someone who did illegal things?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #383 on: January 28, 2010, 04:43:41 PM »
Did the shooting take place in an area where the government had legal control over their citizen's actions?

I remember a plot point in one of those discontinuity shows where everyone in town goes to sea just so they could drink Alcohol without getting busted. This might be a similar case.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #384 on: January 28, 2010, 05:18:00 PM »
Uh, since my idea for an answer was apparently missed...

The woman was arrested by the police. They somehow screwed up during the arrest with her rights and such and therefore had to let her go.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #385 on: January 28, 2010, 09:11:12 PM »
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Did the woman know anyone in the police force?
NO

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Did the woman dislike her husband for any reason?
YES

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Was her husband someone who did illegal things?
Probably NO

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Did the shooting take place in an area where the government had legal control over their citizen's actions?
YES

Uh, since my idea for an answer was apparently missed...

The woman was arrested by the police. They somehow screwed up during the arrest with her rights and such and therefore had to let her go.
NO 'Screwed up with her rights' is a good general direction though.
Sorry for missing it before, you must have edited your post just as I was writing mine, so I missd the edit.

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #386 on: January 28, 2010, 09:26:00 PM »
were all of the evidences directed to the woman?
did she have a good lawyer?
did she screw the rules?
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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #387 on: January 28, 2010, 09:35:46 PM »
did she screw the rules?
Did she have money?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #388 on: January 28, 2010, 09:36:30 PM »
Did she have money?
Did she have green hair?

But seriously.

Did the police come to arrest this woman?

Did they come to arrest her for the murder?

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Re: Black Stories ~ Case 8: Murder Without Consequences
« Reply #389 on: January 28, 2010, 09:56:00 PM »
Did the woman have some kind of right to kill?