Finally did that UK reread. First off, what's interesting to note is that it's quite possible the conflict/argument was actually started by
UK, as she is the first to vote for UD in Post#32, to which UD responds with predictable levels of vitriol.
However, put into context, Chaore's infamous namedrop makes even less sense:
Everyone, vote for UK. She's a noble soul, so that even if she's Town, she'll happily die for the sake of providing information against the Scum menace.
And if she is scum, lynch lynch lynch!
You really can tell UD is new at this. Its NEVER good to lose a townie. Its less voting power, and possibly a role lost.
The only good time a townie is lost is when well, they're not worth keeping even if they're a townie.
That said, UK isn't dangerous enough as scum to warrant that.
Not only does it not have a clear implication that UK might be Chaore's buddy,
how the hell does he know how "dangerous" UK is as Scum? He's a goddamn noob, who has never seen UK's Scum playstyle even IF he is Scumbuddies with her in this game. It's plausible he read an MS game, but that still does not make any sense as to why he'd state that.
He tries to explain it away in #85 after being caught on it by Zakeri:
I was afraid I'd get a condescending starter.
I'll address what I meant. Its not that there is no point, If she is scum, There is obviously a point. However, She can NOT be scum. The relative gain from her being taken out as scum seems to me to be less than the general worth of a townie. I didn't say 'If shes scum, No reason to kill her anyway'. I said 'Given we don't know if she is scum, there really are better targets for lynching.' Its opportunity cost.
Unfortunately, the Diabeetus quote from
The Even More Most Shameful Thing In The World of "is this in English or is this in Hieroglyphics? I can't really tell" applies here yet again. If anyone can get anything
useful out of this post, then, well, yeah. However, it seems to be worthless.
However, @UK #149: what
EXACTLY did you
like about Chaore's post#148? It is basically completely worthless reporter-style nonsense. All it does is attempt to implicate UD, and is followed with a subsequent vote for UD.
Post #185 still makes no sense. Why unvote UD? He was at L-2 on D1...i.e. in no danger of a quickhammer. You could be worried about the motivations of others on the wagon, but at the same time, why unvote him? However, the issue here is that I'm doing this read assuming a Town-UD (for reasons both myself and Edible have already outlined above), and it makes no sense for Scum-UK to hastily and hapazardly unvote a Town-UD in such a fashion. (Also I've done similar things as Town, which is why I'm not holding it against her *too* much at the moment). Also the fact that Arashi did the EXACT SAME THING in Post#204. Seriously, Kilga, could you please pass me an infinite-use dayvig? Please? Pretty please? Argh.
Serp's #216 still worries me for the
timing of the start of an attempt of a wagon on Kanako more than anything else.
I'm STILL worried that UK called NEETz's post#142's UD vote as "alright", considering that his logic in that post literally is "UD is playing extremely poorly and will get himself lynched anyway so welp I might as well join this here bandwagon, derp-a-derp internet derp derp", and that there's more in that post about Chaore than UD, whereas UD complains that there's not enough said in that post about Chaore.
#266 is kind of disconcerting, admitting you "just skimmed the last couple posts" (including those for which you voted for Kanako over Chaore, as Kanako only started contributing on Page 8 ffs) to vote for someone else over "the most questionable UD wagoner", who was also likely progressing into the day's lynch.
And that's it for UK on D1. On the one hand, it's plausible that some of her analyses are Scum-motivated. On the other hand, it's telling that she gives people free passes for
specifically voting UD. At this point, what needs to be determined is, is she doing this out of a desire, as Scum, to get Town-UD mislynched, or is she doing this out of a desire to get AlignmentIrrelevantHere-UD lynched, out of dislike of him as a person? UK has a bad habit of getting emotionally involved in these games far more than most people really should.
tl;dr possible Scum. I still think NEETz is more likely as Scum, and Kanako is a better target otherwise as it would contribute greatly to possible alignment information on Serp, UK and Roukan. I see no reason to move my vote for now.
Also, could Zakeri please exist? That'd be nice, thanks. Much appreciated. Same goes for about a zillion other people, some of which I KNOW are around because they're currently chatting in IRC. Yes, Kanako, this means you. Get your ass in here and post something actually
useful for once, seriously.
