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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #720 on: October 25, 2013, 01:03:20 AM »
Sorry :)  Everything I've done so far has been wrong.  I even wanted to lynch Shadoweh!  But your argument of 'hey if Shadoweh is scum we shouldn't lynch her because it's more interesting for her to be alive' is kind of, well...special.

Read my post and try again.

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #721 on: October 25, 2013, 01:37:05 AM »
also zzzzz

IHNN, when you see this, would you mind fullclaiming? b/c CF7's claim was so terrible and I want something more concrete `_`

I get the impression that Zak isn't scum but he doesn't have a whole lot of posts for me to really tell. Same with SB. ?_? mafia too hard

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #722 on: October 25, 2013, 01:39:17 AM »
btw I think CF7 is scummy so

##Vote IHNN

sorry IHNN but if you're town you'll have to work extra hard to make up for CF7's scumminess. if you're scum then you should just let me lynch you ^_~

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #723 on: October 25, 2013, 01:40:33 AM »
I get the impression that Zak isn't scum but he doesn't have a whole lot of posts for me to really tell. Same with SB. ?_? mafia too hard
I was confused for a minute because I thought you were SB.

HW is SB, Polly is Validon, YES, okay, good.
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #724 on: October 25, 2013, 01:56:07 AM »
IHNN, when you see this, would you mind fullclaiming? b/c CF7's claim was so terrible and I want something more concrete `_`
Chihaya Kisaragi, Goddess of Singing.  For as long as I'm alive everyone can talk at night.
btw I think CF7 is scummy so
If you're going to lynch me at least lynch me for what I've done and not what my playerslot has done  :V

Anyway I like Polly's stuff aside from voting for me

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #725 on: October 25, 2013, 01:57:07 AM »
Oh right I promised to re-read people and started that then got distracted and then streamed (PX can vouch for that, he was there) so I'm gonna go finish those re-reads of people now.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #726 on: October 25, 2013, 02:10:41 AM »
Happy Birthday ActionDan

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ActionDan (2) - Serela, I have no name
Shadoweh (2) - Zakeri, huhwhat
Serela (2) - Darkninjaabc, NekoNekoRex
NekoNekoRex (1) - Conqueror
Zakeri (1) - Shadoweh
I have no name (1) - Polaris
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 02:33:37 AM by PX »

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #727 on: October 25, 2013, 02:11:26 AM »
actually, my shadoweh read is wrong

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #728 on: October 25, 2013, 02:19:33 AM »
Well let me just go over CF7 for now.

CF7 attacks darkninja with words like "most suspicious so far" yet keeps his RVS jokevote on NNR. and by "keeps" I mean makes a conscious decision to vote NNR after realizing his initial acrostic voting didn't count. Next, he votes BT as a result of BT being a hammer bro., and a lot later he votes Serela for reasons beyond the comprehension of a mere mortal. CF7's voting is really uninspired and suggests scum looking for someone to vote as opposed to town looking for scum (wherein voting would be a consequence of looking for scum).

CF7 at the end of Episode 1 wagoning on Shadoweh seems to serve no purpose other than to avoid the Raikaria wagon, which I suppose is not in itself a scummy thing to do if you didn't want to lynch the doctor, but I don't like how he goes "you guys lynched the doctor??? for shame" even though he did nothing to stop said lynch. (that said, I think validon was also guilty of this except he was town so I guess I can't push the point. for the record I would've lynched raikaria if anyone cares)

So basically the case is superficial vote patterns with no real content/substance. Of course, IHNN can't defend himself from any of this, so it'll be mean-spirited if I push any more than here. But CF7 is bad enough for me to leave my vote on IHNN unless he can prove himself townish enough for me to drop him (or I take a look at someone else and they end up looking worse)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 02:20:30 AM by PX »

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #729 on: October 25, 2013, 02:21:07 AM »
I'm lost here

I voted Serela because the cop (with crumbs and 4 other people softconfirming it) had a non-town result on him. I didn't think I needed reason beyond that. There's technically still a non-town result on Serela.

I was busy again today and I can't remember the last time I posted either.

These claims are jacking me up though. I should ignore them.

Ugh all these sub ins are going to throw me off too. At this rate I'm going to need to abandon my other game due to lack of time for it (despite wanting to have played that game over this one in the first place, ironically.)

I am actually exhausted right now from lack of sleep last night, and going on the biggest mood swing ever today ( from meh to crappy to ecstatic to crappy again)
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #730 on: October 25, 2013, 02:23:39 AM »
What ever happened to "Serela is still anti-town" anyway
Is that not a thing?

We are going to run out of non-scum before we run out of wincons I think.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #731 on: October 25, 2013, 02:25:07 AM »
Don't worry NNR, take your time and get back to us when you feel better. I don't think you're in danger of being lynched anyway (as far as I can tell)

I actually forgot about the cop result on Serela and may have to reconsider not getting rid of him.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #732 on: October 25, 2013, 02:26:46 AM »
The issue with your cop guilty reasoning, NNR, is it's from someone who checks for non-town win conditions and I already claimed a non-town win condition beforehand.

The "cop guilty" seriously didn't change anything except us learning Darkie's role
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #733 on: October 25, 2013, 02:26:59 AM »
guys dan is mafia. he has zero interactions with SB in the quicktopic and there is no reason for him to think my slot is town unless he doesn't want to be PoE'd as the only scum in the neighbor qt once the rest of us flip. i agree that his ISO is defcon level as well

i haven't read anybody else in full, i'll post the rest of my reads when i do

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #734 on: October 25, 2013, 02:27:35 AM »
serela are you the sk :(

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #735 on: October 25, 2013, 02:28:10 AM »
Who hasn't claimed a wincon anyway? CF7 and Raikaria? Darkninja's cop is going to be far from useful if it only detects alt-wincons and not non-beign players.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #736 on: October 25, 2013, 02:29:35 AM »
Happy birthday ActionDan :derp:

I tried reading Dan but I feel ambivalent. I dunno if he REALLY needs to be lynched today. Logically he seems p. terrible but my intuition tells me that it'll be a waste of time. And my intuition is never wrong! (sarcasm)

Can I have a list of people who have claimed to be in the QT so far? Not everyone, just the people who have claimed it (unless everyone has claimed it)

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #737 on: October 25, 2013, 02:31:09 AM »
everybody in the quicktopic has claimed it i think. it's just dan/mitsuki/dark and i

i have a wincon but i'm not playing to it because px is a NERD

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #738 on: October 25, 2013, 02:33:01 AM »
NNR, sorry but that's what his role is unless he's lying scum >_>

It's not that weak because half or more of town probably -doesn't- have any ITP conditions. A town result in itself is still fairly powerful.

And no HW I'm not the SK, this role as an sk would be literally the worst.

Polly:Dan, SB(HW), Vhaltzuki, Darkie. That's all 4. Darkie being a "cop" is why they decided they were all town for him not getting nk'd after crumbing his role in the QT d1.
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #739 on: October 25, 2013, 02:37:51 AM »
Guess that makes Darkninja a really worthless cop since I think there's less vanilla wincon townies then there are other ones *shrug*

I was under the impression his role meant "finds players that town needs to kill to win the normal town wincon"
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #740 on: October 25, 2013, 02:40:57 AM »
So

I'm curious how this affects your voting priorities
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #741 on: October 25, 2013, 02:44:35 AM »
I'm not really sure what the hell we're supposed to do with you Serela. I never got a chance to follow your case to well, tbh. Guess I could do one of these other things while I wait for dark to come back and clarify:

I wonder what I should do with my Validon read now that he's gone and replaced.
I also tried to read Paladin earlier but couldn't find any progress on reading hi- oh wait I remember now, he's town for that postgame thing he did.
I'm really tempted to vote Dan too, I've been kind of forgetting him all game because he's been non-existent but now I can't really not notice him and he's noticeably awful.
There's also Shadoweh who I forgot about and should still be suspicious of I think, JOAT is a null claim.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #742 on: October 25, 2013, 02:45:10 AM »
vote dan i literally guarantee he's mafia

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #743 on: October 25, 2013, 02:55:07 AM »
So this is going to be a wall and I'm going to quotestrip it by person (D2/2.5 only considered).  Also yes it's excerpts that could be taken out of context, but since I'm linking to the actual post you can check the context if you so choose.

darkninja:
imho zakeri is just a bad townie, scum usually doesn't play that bad...
In the end, the one who irks me most is Serela...implies that he is being assisted, by scum.
"Too scummy to be scum" is bad logic.  Also, 'improving play' does not mean that outside help is being given.  It looks like a shoehorned Serela 'case', the relevant part of which is shown.
I am also a watered down cop, with the ability to investigate for any not pro-town motives. I copped Serela for n1 and returned positive, which combined with his earlier play and the fact that there's already a bunch of town wincons made me to question is this ''pro-town motive'' really is as how he claimed...That means I scumread you and your every single argument, Conqueror, I shall be taking it on you, just not now...Meanwhile I need to squeeze a fullclaim and his entire thought process from Serela, and it better be fast.

scumteam: Conq/Serela/Dan OR Ihavenoname
The reasoning, however, is perfectly understandable here, and fits with the case looking shoehorned in-it pretty much was.  However, just throwing out a scumteam on D2...is not generally a good idea, even with this many players being obv/derp/probtown.
Notice how swift and passionately conqueror pushed for the respective wagons for pretty much any candidate. His dedication is also completely lacking in pursuing any of his cases.
I'm going to disagree on Conq, his cases have effort from my perspective.
darkninja verdict: misguided town, no longer scummy.

Shadoweh:
Dan lurking was bad, but if he's being active in the QT I can understand it.
Giving Dan a free pass for QT shenanigans, maybe it's playstyle, maybe it's defending a buddy. (nope totally not colored by me currently reading Shadoweh and Dan as scum)
+the other stuff I said about her D1 somewhere in the thread that I can't be bothered to go find.
Shadoweh verdict: I don't know, honestly.  Content shaped up a lot after being wagoned which is a good thing except I know Shadoweh is skilled enough to do that as scum.  Probably still scum but I'd rather lynch...

ActionDan:
Stuff I already covered
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...and nothing else!
"I never want to play with ActionDan again if this is town behavior"
- "I must show moral offense to sell my vote!"
Though this was blatant OMGUS to perfectly valid sentiments.
ActionDan verdict: DIE THE DEATH SCUMBAG!  I still don't care how amazing your 'play' in the QT is because your thread play is super scum 9000, and HW who is in the QT is not calling you town, as if I needed -more- reason to not move my vote right now.

Serela:.... :C
I still like Serela.  Serela is cool and had better not be tricking me :c

NNR:
This post is really good.  However, outside of that...not too much other than a telegraphed switch to Shadoweh for reasons I completely agree with.  Has claimed IRL reasons and I can believe that.
NNR verdict: Probably not scum but warrants a 2nd look if my scumreads turn up town

ValidonPolly:
On the one hand, Polly is really good and attacking him for what Validon did would be hypocritical of me  :ohdear: .  On the other hand, I still need to read Validon...
...and Validon did nothing but replace out on D2...but nothing jumps out at me as scummy from D1/N1 either.
Validon/Polly verdict: Stop voting me so we can be town buddies \:D/

Zakeri:
I'm looking at his posts and seeing nothing wrong why can't I get a read ;_;

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #744 on: October 25, 2013, 03:05:59 AM »
##Unvote
##Vote ActionDan


I thought about it over dinner and ugghhhhghhhhhhhhghh logic > intuition and maybe i trust huh what more than i trust myself ::) Also I feel like I need some closure in the chapter of my short-lived life that involves Dan, or something. huh what is it ok if i put my faith in your read

for the record I haven't dropped IHNN completely yet `_` got my eye on you buster

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #745 on: October 25, 2013, 03:09:32 AM »
Aim For the Top!

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ActionDan (4) - Serela, I have no name, huhwhat, Polaris
Shadoweh (1) - Zakeri
Serela (2) - Darkninjaabc, NekoNekoRex
NekoNekoRex (1) - Conqueror
Zakeri (1) - Shadoweh
Not Voting: ActionDan, Sky Paladin

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ActionDan is at L-2

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #746 on: October 25, 2013, 03:10:56 AM »
Yeah what IHNN just said about Darkie is pretty much the same conclusion I'd come to awhile ago- the cop result explains the strange sensationalist case against me at the start of d2 and etcetcetc

So who wants to take bets on whether the obvtown cop or the obvtown doc is the one getting nightkilled tonight! There's also Option B.Shadoweh successfully plays bus driving serial killer, the most exhilarating game.

Speaking of exhilarating, seeing the ActionDan wagon suddenly take off is like my broken dreams coming true. *Wipes tear from eye* <3
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #747 on: October 25, 2013, 03:13:36 AM »
Wait we have waaaaaaaaaay more time than I expected. :V I guess I can actually give Dan some time to actually make the posts he said he would make.

now I feel slighly uncomfortable

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #748 on: October 25, 2013, 03:14:41 AM »
Polly it's not like you just hammered Dan or anything :V He can make posts even if you're voting him!
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2.5, The Tsundere Queen Appears!
« Reply #749 on: October 25, 2013, 03:53:42 AM »
You guys are so mean, it's his birthday >:< Dan isn't going to be here to answer your questions anyways.
I also just found out that if you take the peel off a banana it turns into huh what \o/

I spent the entire last night not being able to sleep and woke up like an hour ago so i don't have anything to add? huh what why is Zak obvious town?

I AM STILL THE ONLY TOWNIE. ME AND SKY PALADIN. WE'RE GOING TO EVICT THE REST OF YOU


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