The iDOLM@STER Mafia Thread 1 (Locked)

[Conqueror]

I will say that X knows Y's role and didn't kill Y so X is town is an argument that has fallen flat on it's face so many times it's pretty much worthless without context though.

[Conqueror]

*its

huhwhat this is all you're fault

[Serela]

Yeah. MotKTown has issues with assuming things about the setup, and then it turns out they're not true (no matter how much sense it made), and so town throws the game because of faulty role shenanigans. This has been a thing for years.

It's not a reason for ActionDan to sit around doing nothing, in any case. I will lynch your face off. >:T Or at least, uh, I'll try. In my current position I don't have a good reason to think you're confirmed town.

You trying to ride the pass other people are giving you for all it's worth, by coasting through effectively activitiless, is scummy as fuck if there's any decent chance you're not ACTUALLY confirmed town. And from what I currently know I'd probably be doubting the validity of this free clear even if I was in the QT.

[ActionDan]

I mean.  it would have been pretty simple at the end of yesterday as things were going.

Kill Y,
blame Mitsuki.

Mitsuki dies the death.  I still look like super town 3000

[ActionDan]

I really don't want to care/read 20 pages now if I can coast on pretty well deserved town cred.  despite your efforts to play it the complete opposite way just cuz you didn't get much activity from me.

tyvm

[Conqueror]

##unvote
##vote: actiondan

[ActionDan]

and atm. 

I'm pretty sure throwing a dart at the wall = 60%. 

So

yeah ok Conq.  be more scum

[Conqueror]

Nope.

Dan, you know better than to try to coast on vacuous "town cred"

not to mention even if you had this town cred

you'd still be trying to lynch scum instead of herpa derping in the thread

[ActionDan]

I am doing what I can to narrow down the scum pool without having to read the thread.

[Conqueror]

I'm pretty sure throwing a dart at the wall = 60%. 

If that's the case, why have you not made an effort to vote or push anyone all day? I only see you pushing Serela, who you apparently think is ITP.

You think I'm scum? Come at me bro. 

[Conqueror]

I am doing what I can to narrow down the scum pool without having to read the thread.

And how exactly are you doing that, pray tell?

[Serela]

"Dude but if I was actually scum I would have done it like this, right" is also an argument scum try to use because it's so easy for it to look like it makes sense to people who don't know the whole story.

I TRIED IT IN MORIYA SHRINE REVOLUTION IT DIDN'T WORK (I had a super shitty fakeclaim though so of course it did, I was decently new to the game still ;_; Plus I was unknowingly against a third party...)

tl;dr shenanigan arguments like that aren't good either.

Oh wow the cuts. But yeah, ActionDan if you don't want to play the game you can replace out or something.

Because seriously.

You're sitting here telling us "no I don't want to actually play mafia". If you're actually town that is the worst attitude. But my FAITH IN HUMANITY (and other things) says you're probably scum so that's okay! (Most recent cut:Really Dan? All you've done today is do pokes on me about whether or not I have conditional powers, which has pretty minimal impact on the scum pool) (Also you barely did anything before you were "cleared" anyway)

[Conqueror]

imo Dan is trying to pull another DEFCON and parading his town status without anything to show for it (although he didn't actually parade his town status in that game but people who read defcon should know the comparison I'm trying to make)

in Town Mafia he was disengaged but his pushes were still pretty clear - serela, raitaki, affinity etc.

[ActionDan]

Why would I push anyone if I didn't read the thread and didn't know enough to make a decision on who to push?

If you are suggesting I am pushing Serela, I'd say that I never voted her, nor did I suggest she is scum.  I have merely asked her questions.  I believe that is called interrogation.

The reason I can call you scum is that I think you are running out of lynch options and have suddenly sighted an opportunity.  Also, calling what towncred I've accumulated "vacuous" seems rather arbitrarily dismissive.

[ActionDan]

imo Dan is trying to pull another DEFCON and parading his town status without anything to show for it (although he didn't actually parade his town status in that game but people who read defcon should know the comparison I'm trying to make)

in Town Mafia he was disengaged but his pushes were still pretty clear - serela, raitaki, affinity etc.

I had read enough to be able to comfortably push them. 

I haven't read more than a page in full here.

[I have no name]

Couldn't sleep.  Back to Mafia and what is this
##unvote (still suspect you Shadoweh <3 )
Uhhh...yeah that completely clears Sky Paladin in my book, would not lynch.

I still look like super town 3000

>implying you look like super town 3000 and not ultra lurkscum 5000

I really don't want to care/read 20 pages now if I can coast on pretty well deserved town cred.

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This really wants to make me ignore "bad play =/= scummy play" because this actually makes me angry.

I'm pretty sure throwing a dart at the wall = 60%. 

I am throwing a dart at a wall, said wall has ACTIONDAN and Shadoweh and Zakeri on it.  I'm pretty sure I have 66%+ to hit scum, by numbers.  I wonder what the most likely spot to hit is, by area though 

##Vote: ActionDan because I sincerely hope this isn't town behavior because if it is I really never want to play a game with dan again.

-cuts- yeah I like this new vote now time to try to zzzzzz again

[Conqueror]

Why would I push anyone if I didn't read the thread and didn't know enough to make a decision on who to push?
If you are suggesting I am pushing Serela, I'd say that I never voted her, nor did I suggest she is scum.  I have merely asked her questions.  I believe that is called interrogation.

I was suggesting you were wasting time throwing words at someone you didn't think was scum instead of spending time reading the thread for scum. If you have time to find Serela's ITP crumb and interrogate Serela on the nuances of his itp wincon/whatever you have the time to look at the thread and see who you think is scum.

The reason I can call you scum is that I think you are running out of lynch options and have suddenly sighted an opportunity.  Also, calling what towncred I've accumulated "vacuous" seems rather arbitrarily dismissive.

Nah, it's called PoE because the game state is becoming clearer. Also, it is vacuous, and I'm pretty sure you know you're just blowing airs.

[Conqueror]

I had read enough to be able to comfortably push them. 

I haven't read more than a page in full here.

okay so
if you are town here
and you apparently have the time to back and forth with me
will you please take the time to
read the thread?
because I'm pretty sure as town here, you'd just go ahead and do that instead of arguing about whether or not you've read the thread. you could just be reading the thread.

[Shadoweh]

Considering I was just in a 4-man QT game where I had a foolproof reason the lynched scum wasn't my partner (he was) along with two masons (they were scum) , any wifom that's less then you actually being confirmed town doesn't cut it. Just play the damn game Dan.

[Serela]

Yeah I was having pretty big DEFCON pings at this point too.

But to everyone it should be pretty clear that anyone who actually has town's wincon in mind would not be doing what ActionDan's doing right now. The only effort he's putting in is towards trying to justify his questionable "confirmed town" status.

...and rolehunt, which would further scum's agenda too anyway.

To answer the latest Dan post, at this point you've admitted
A.You don't know near enough about the game to make any decent decision on who should be lynched
B.You don't wish to read the game to become more informed
And even when people are turning towards lynching you, you don't show the slightest intention to fix this. Absolutely everything about this is going against town's agenda of trying to lynch scum.

I'm not sure why I'm even still responding to these shenanigans, but, well, I already typed it.

Goin' to bed in a minute, at this point I'm fine if Dan is quicklynched by the time I wake up >_> I don't think there's anything that Dan could do at this point that would make him not look like nigh-confirmed scum to me.

[Conqueror]

I don't support a quicklynch on Dan, or on anyone for that manner.

I'm just waiting for him to produce instead of this endless delaying game, which is something I'm pretty sure he'd be ballsy enough to pull off as scum.

[Shadoweh]

=_= Shutup Serela, the ACTUAL TOWNIES are talking here. No Quicklynching.

[Serela]

I knooow a quicklynch would be incredibly unlikely

but at this point even if he somehow went and produced would you seriously stop thinking that he's probably scum?

This is top-tier blood red alarm bells material. :C I just like lynching scum

[Conqueror]

##Daykill Serela
death to all itp scumbags
B)


depends on the quality of what he produces. I don't believe in lost causes

[ActionDan]

In fact I believe after Raitaki was lynched I said I was clueless and then stopped pushing anything or calling anyone either town or scum.

I don't even remember posting on the day SB was lynched.

I have been skimming the game here and there, so the Serela ITP claim intrigued me.  Is it really worth less time than other parts of the thread.  And who's to say if my line of inquiry wouldn't lead to an alignment determination.

##vote: IHNN

"I never want to play with ActionDan again if this is town behavior"

- "I must show moral offense to sell my vote!"

As for the constant

"play the damn game dan!"

Well what am I doing now?  I'd say I'd be playing.  I'm not going to apologize for the days I was busy and not available. 

[Conqueror]

No one said you needed to. Just start playing now.

My point is that if Serela claims ITP and you don't disbelieve the claim (serela's play in this game perfectly fits itp imo) then what's the point of wasting time on it when you could be, you know, doing other stuff?

baby steps

ihnn replaced cf7 btw

[Serela]

I don't even remember posting on the day SB was lynched.

I sure hope not, such a day never occured!

Also TBH I agree with IHNN, so, I don't see anything wrong with the statement

[ActionDan]

welp.

##unvote

[Serela]

Anyway that was pretty bad reasoning for voting IHNN so I'll throw that onto the pile of reasons AD isn't town (Picked a minor statement and painted it as scummy AtE, I mean I guess if AD is town and thinks what he's doing really isn't bad that could vaguely explain it, but it's getting harder and harder to even imagine that x_x;)

[Conqueror]

eh

##unvote
##vote: zakeri

at least dan is posting now. wanna see where he goes from here.