Since it's somehow necessary: PX/NNR Edition I
PX is town because: Well first there's the initial NNR vote
(link) which is a strong direct post. He doesn't seem afraid or hasty to push whatever. He made it clear he didn't want rawr lynched pretty much when it was first relevant so that strengthens the likelihood that, yes, he does have something on rawr, and if you'd notice he doesn't want him lynched because keeping him alive is beneficial to the town, which seems like a town reason. I don't see how this can be scum because 1) first off it's really dumb because you're assuming either two scum pre-flipped or one scum citing role knowledge on town for questionable reasons and 2) it's a really unnecessary early link to make; Dan and possibly others were reading him town but others were sure to call him out for it (a thing which is happening now) and if the scumteam's plan was to off Dan, the guy that insta-read PX as town, then this is extremely super dumb. It's not like PX made an effort to get a scope of reads to make himself less lynchable.
Competent Scum PX wouldn't have pulled such useless shit when the rest of his content was visually lacking and open for all out assault. It just makes no sense.I would really like it if people claiming this is from scum could explain WHAT besides THE ACTION ITSELF makes them think it scum because holy shit. Nothing is scummy about the execution, at all. Considering the ample reason to distrust PX scum BASED on these actions, you'd have to be getting an extremely confident scumread on him elsewhere and that elsewhere doesn't exist. The whole Zak/NNR end-of-day thing he pulled didn't read scum at all because his reasons were a-ok. He, JUST LIKE ME, realized that the Zak lynch was a crapshoot and Amra/Darkoda unvoted NNR so we WERE lacking NNR votes. Zak had a fucking terrible and lurker D1 and he would have continued the trend on D2, UNLIKE NNR, who was at the very least posting and had THINGS TO REREAD during his D1. Which is why PX said he'd rather leave NNR alive and that's exactly what he's saying now.
If this part of the post is unreadable / hard to understand let me know because I'm mostly speedtyping this and still kind of in shock at PX being an actual wagon.
NNR is scum because: He had a mediocre entrance that seemed hesitant and didn't provide *any* solid reads (pretty much the polar opposite of PX), later posts a bunch of random inaccurate reasons for suspecting me but doesn't vote me because UHH MASONS, which again reads hesitant more than anything else (hesitant to place a vote on me, that is), and I'd give scum the luxury of being more likely to give weight to such a crap theory. I think I finally figured out what I didn't like about his me-read -- ever since the masons thing, later replaced with "his suspicions don't look like last game's bullshit", he always had a reason to NOT think me scum yet he constantly voiced perfectly logical concerns. Later he says I'm misguided town but this isn't how I'd expect someone to treat misguided town - his concerns before that seemed more like suspicions than pointers / queries. Like, he literally says
"BT's posts sound on the fence about me, having no clear scumread, which I don't like, yet his vote persists" at one point --
he sounds like he's trying to keep his options open while not voting me because he's scared. For this reason, this isn't town waffling about his BT read at all -- it's scum, mentlegen.
Anyway at that point he jumped on Zakeri because Zakeri and it didn't look like he tried scumhunting from any other direction. Cool, Zak doesn't have enough content posts for you to rightfully rip apart. That doesn't excuse you from scumhunting. You used WAAH WAAH ZAK ISN'T POSTING as an excuse.
A nice little tidbid: he mentions that
Shadoweh might be a scumread but the next time he mentions her is today, when I ask him about clearing everyone else and he goes "actually take Shadoweh off that list". (it's in the green font reply post so fuck you too) If he thought she might be scum for reading him scum early, and if he didn't have anything to analyze because Zak wasn't posting, WHY did he not analyze ANY of Shadoweh's posts after that?
Because he wasn't hunting for scum, that's why.Notice how all of his "my reads" posts don't actually analyze any of the posters, at all.
(link) (link)I absolutely hate that his PX vote today is AGAIN based off of "he is doing a bunch of very bad shit". Why is his very bad shit very scummy shit? There's nothing differentiating his reads despite claiming a certain order to them because all he did was list actions that are just "bad" but tell you shit all about alignment.
Alternatively,
(link) (link). This is NARRATIVE, he doesn't actually explain why these things are coming from scum. Because he isn't scumhunting, just pointing out shaky play (I can't even bring myself to call this bad play because it's only visually bad but whatever the fuck).
!!! You may all sheep to me now. And if NNR replies to this with green font I will break is neck as well as the internet will allow me to.
I want an answer from every person voting PX for why they aren't voting Dormio on the This Person is Bad in General front. (because that's what people seem to be voting PX for?? it's really dumb either way and the way Dormio treated the wagons is leagues worse)and
I want an answer from every person citing "NNR's BT read shuffle was town" for how exactly does that read town. Refer to what I pointed out here. (people saying his behavior is town are worse and deserve to be spanked)