Author Topic: Ten Desires Mafia - Game Over (Read 91833 times)

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #120 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:20:05 PM »

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I'd say it's better to have a natural (read: not gambit-forced) reason to vote someone that to gambit to get a target, which in turn is better than a random vote.

What good is that if theres no intent to catch scum?

Also reimus gambit had no intent of catching scum, town or scum could have fallen for it. Voting for someone with a reason like that is scummy.

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Kiva-la · « **Reply #121 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:20:44 PM »

CRaZY umbreLLa no THinK?
NO caN see aPPeaSEmeNT?
ScUM ApPEasemENT!

Kiva-la · « **Reply #122 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:21:34 PM »

Uuuuuuuu~
YosHikA huNGrY...

W · « **Reply #123 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:25:32 PM »

Umbrella see newbtown going "Suddenly everyone is hating on what I just did, run awaaaaay".

Decade · « **Reply #124 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:27:39 PM »

Appeasement is not necessarily a scummy trait. The way I see it newbs usually instinctively defend themselves quite a bit.

That, and Nue finds your speech silly. ##Unvote
##Vote Yoshika

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I'm thinking that too.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #125 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:28:44 PM »

YoshIKa SEe aPPEaSEment!
ApPeAsEMENT scUM!
ToO UnDEDicATED!
YoSHIkA no KnoW iF NeW or OLD. WhY ThING matTER?

Ryuki · « **Reply #126 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:29:12 PM »

Quote from: Tatara Kogasa on August 16, 2012, 09:25:32 PM

Umbrella see newbtown going "Suddenly everyone is hating on what I just did, run awaaaaay".

'Newbtown' sees their plan obviously isn't working so backs off instead of hopelessly pushing an issue town isn't agreeing with.

Beating a dead horse is pointless.

Quote from: Houjuu Nue on August 16, 2012, 09:27:39 PM

Appeasement is not necessarily a scummy trait. The way I see it newbs usually instinctively defend themselves quite a bit.

That, and Nue finds your speech silly. ##Unvote
##Vote Yoshika

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I'm thinking that too.

Yeah, defense instinct is natural.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #127 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:34:44 PM »

YosHIKa no LIke DEFENdING oTher!
YOShiKA alWAys wonDER WHy seLf cANNot defenD!

YoSHiKA noT liKE dROp case and NOt NEW Case!
YOshikA no lIKE atTEmpT 1v1!
YoSHikA NOt like appEASEment!

YOSHIKA alSO wonder WHere fAKE GOOD girl go...
YOShiKA hungRY...

WhERe is NYaNnyAn...?

Ryuki · « **Reply #128 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:38:42 PM »

I've been covering my own hide for the last page and a half.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #129 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:39:54 PM »

YOshikA nOT see HOW THat AppeASE YOshIKA...

Kabuto · « **Reply #130 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:40:08 PM »

I get distracted by a livestream and see Yoshika...trolling?
Either way I really don't see a problem with what Reimu did, seems like she realized she was wrong and backed down. That's not a scummy trait.

Yoshika though keeps pushing, which is somewhat scummy.

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Yeah. I definitely feel comfortable with a ##Vote: Yoshika

Kiva-la · « **Reply #131 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:43:11 PM »

WhAT is troLL...?

YoSHIka not UNDerSTand.
YoshIKa beLIEve MEAN laDy scUm unTIL ReasON otHERwise givEN!
MAYbe mORE than aPPeasEment AND DEFEndING!

Ryuki · « **Reply #132 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:45:31 PM »

Just saying it's that time in my timezone again.

I'll wait and see in the morning, don't expect me to respond for a few hours.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #133 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:47:08 PM »

Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on August 16, 2012, 09:45:31 PM

I'll wait and see

PoSITion scuM!

Ouja · « **Reply #134 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:50:43 PM »

The problem I have with Reimu right now is the wording of her post ("I'll back off"), which gives off the impression that she hasn't particularly changed her mind. Reimu, do you still think Yuyuko is scum? If anything, you're implying it, though it's incongruous to where your vote is, which shows a lack of conviction. Well, this sort of defensiveness can be scummy, though I'm willing to give Reimu a clear for being a newbie.

Er... what I'm trying to say here is spend less time defending yourself and more time scumhunting?

Anyway, I dislike Marisa's #67. She's merely responding to something that's immediately relevant to her, and hasn't done any more than that. I mean, she could have at least unvoted from her random vote (specifically the one that's part of the biggest wagon, if you can call it a wagon, at the time?that is, mine) for the sake of someone she had suspicion on (she was questioning Reimu, for one). I'd like Marisa to post something else, at least.

##Vote: Kirisame Marisa

Yoshika is being considered, but I'll need a moment because I really, really don't like her posting-style.

Faiz · « **Reply #135 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:54:57 PM »

Quote from: Konpaku Youmu

Yoshika though keeps pushing, which is somewhat scummy.

How is it scummy? Her logic is reasonable enough, though I don't agree that Reimu is scum.

##Unvote
##Vote Youmu

This seems much more like an opportunistic wagon hop.

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Kiva-la · « **Reply #136 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:56:02 PM »

Quote from: Kochiya Sanae on August 16, 2012, 09:50:43 PM

Anyway, I dislike Marisa's #67. She's merely responding to something that's immediately relevant to her, and hasn't done any more than that. I mean, she could have at least unvoted from her random vote (specifically the one that's part of the biggest wagon, if you can call it a wagon, at the time?that is, mine) for the sake of someone she had suspicion on (she was questioning Reimu, for one). I'd like Marisa to post something else, at least.

YoSHIkA thinK interESTing.

Decade · « **Reply #137 on:** August 16, 2012, 09:59:10 PM »

Quote from: Kirisame Marisa on August 16, 2012, 09:54:57 PM

How is it scummy? Her logic is reasonable enough, though I don't agree that Reimu is scum.

I'd say "appeasement = scum" and "defending = scum" aren't reasonable reasons to keep pushing the lynch at all.
Congratulations zombie girl. You've made me decide to keep my joke half-vote :V

Kabuto · « **Reply #138 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:00:26 PM »

Quote from: Miyako Yoshika on August 16, 2012, 09:47:08 PM

PoSITion scuM!

Waiting to make a more informed decision would benefit a player playing as scum or as town.

Still happy with where my vote is.

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Marisa, I started typing my vote post after

Quote from: Miyako Yoshika on August 16, 2012, 09:20:44 PM

CRaZY umbreLLa no THinK?
NO caN see aPPeaSEmeNT?
ScUM ApPEasemENT!

However, due to having a livestream off to the side my post was delayed, which is why I can see it coming across as opportunistic. You'll notice I hadn't been voting anyone prior to Yoshika though, so I don't see how it's a wagon "hop" instead of placing my vote on who I find scummy.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #139 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:01:15 PM »

Quote from: Houjuu Nue on August 16, 2012, 09:59:10 PM

I'd say "appeasement = scum" and "defending = scum" aren't reasonable reasons to keep pushing the lynch at all.
Congratulations zombie girl. You've made me decide to keep my joke half-vote :V

YoU leSS BRain tHAn YOshIKA...?

Kiva-la · « **Reply #140 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:02:17 PM »

Quote from: Konpaku Youmu on August 16, 2012, 10:00:26 PM

Waiting to make a more informed decision would benefit a player playing as scum or as town.

ALReady mANY INforMAtion!

Decade · « **Reply #141 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:05:22 PM »

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I don't think Yoshika is taking this seriously enough.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #142 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:06:19 PM »

YOShiKa vERy CerEAL!

... YoSHIKa make YOSHika hungrY aGAin...

Faiz · « **Reply #143 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:11:14 PM »

Quote from: Konpaku Youmu

You'll notice I hadn't been voting anyone prior to Yoshika though, so I don't see how it's a wagon "hop" instead of placing my vote on who I find scummy.

Bad choice of words on my part.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #144 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:12:43 PM »

I fail to see why my cute servant is getting all of this flank when it looks to me that the people attacking her are defending Reimu's scum action. Yes I consider it a scum move to set a trap that anyone could spring and proceed to harp on why she did it in a lot of fluff and fun. Seriously, this whole post can be one lined to:
"I suggested nl as an option and Yuyuko jumped on it. My intent was not to carry through with a nl so there is no reason to fos me for that."
She instead writes a wall of defense and overjustification.
I don't support this wagon on Yoshika.

I'll have to think some more about Mamizou's and Reimu's little interactions for a bit longer I'm not sure what to make of it but so far I think Mamizou would be the town over Reimu.

I don't like Miss Youmu either. She can bash my smoking habits but I will simply not allow her to fluff through with "The townie acting" she's been trying to make in her post.
This kind of stuff is just a lot fluff and game strats to make it look like she's contributing when really it's not. Her arrogant attitude towards what I consider some stirring events that give a few reads on players is jarring to me. This question in particular shows she doesn't really care what happens to Mamizou since she's not reading her and just wants to ask a question to look active:
"Mamizou, is 'silly' equivalent to scummy here? Between the 2, which would you rather lynch?"
If one was following Mamizou they'd see that she was calling Reimu scum for not wanting to lynch scum but for wanting to justify her lynches. Since Reimu was promptly voted for this it seems to me Mamizou believes her lines and doesn't think Reimu town.
Youmu's 131 seals herself for me in proving once again she's not reading this game.
GG would lynch again.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Youmu

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #145 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:16:56 PM »

Nue are my cute little servants words really that hard to read? I have little trouble getting the idea of what she's trying to convey rather clearly.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #146 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:18:14 PM »

NyaNNyaN! SEiga NYAnnyaN!

Kabuto · « **Reply #147 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:32:23 PM »

Quote from: Kaku Seiga on August 16, 2012, 10:12:43 PM

I don't like Miss Youmu either. She can bash my smoking habits but I will simply not allow her to fluff through with "The townie acting" she's been trying to make in her post.
This kind of stuff is just a lot fluff and game strats to make it look like she's contributing when really it's not. Her arrogant attitude towards what I consider some stirring events that give a few reads on players is jarring to me. This question in particular shows she doesn't really care what happens to Mamizou since she's not reading her and just wants to ask a question to look active:
"Mamizou, is 'silly' equivalent to scummy here? Between the 2, which would you rather lynch?"
If one was following Mamizou they'd see that she was calling Reimu scum for not wanting to lynch scum but for wanting to justify her lynches. Since Reimu was promptly voted for this it seems to me Mamizou believes her lines and doesn't think Reimu town.
Youmu's 131 seals herself for me in proving once again she's not reading this game.

Responding to each line in turn, first link I was weighing in on what had happened since I last posted and giving my opinions on the matters at hand. I hardly see the problem with that.
Second link is the same thing, weighing on on what happened while I was away. I asked the questions because I didn't have answers for them, I have been reading Mamizou (and not always understanding what's being referred to). I didn't realize that the 3rd link was "validation" for calling Reimu scummy-I don't see it. Additionally if stating my opinions is arrogant then I'm guilty as charged.
Fourth link does not show I'm not reading the game. If anything it shows I am reading the game, as I responded to new developments. If I wasn't reading the game I wouldn't be posting.

You don't support the wagon on Yoshika because of how you interpreted Reimu's actions, did you consider that someone else interpreting Reimu's actions differently would see Yoshika in a different light?

Kiva-la · « **Reply #148 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:36:20 PM »

Quote from: Konpaku Youmu on August 16, 2012, 10:32:23 PM

You don't support the wagon on Yoshika because of how you interpreted Reimu's actions, did you consider that someone else interpreting Reimu's actions differently would see Yoshika in a different light?

YosHIKA wonder if HaLFbreED Do saME thinkING...
HAlFbreeD sAY THink DiffereNt inTERpreTAtION but reFUse seE YoshikA intErpreTAtion!

Decade · « **Reply #149 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:43:00 PM »

Quote from: Kaku Seiga on August 16, 2012, 10:16:56 PM

Nue are my cute little servants words really that hard to read? I have little trouble getting the idea of what she's trying to convey rather clearly.

Well, I don't really have a problem with interpreting her words. It's just that considering how hard she is pushing for Reimu's lynch, she isn't giving many good reasons for it. I'll repeat this again, "too much appeasement and self-defense" aren't very good reasons especially if you're trying hard to get your target lynched.

That, and her attitude irks me. She responds to but does not recognizes the weight of the situation at hand and the responses of other people. She needs to take this a little bit more seriously.