Author Topic: SaidaiSTG Thread Ver 1.11 (counterstop fixed, initials still not working) (Read 58448 times)

saucykobold · « **Reply #60 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:47:55 AM »

Lots of Raiden DX's Training course. I'm also trying my hand at writing a guide for the strategy board at shmups. It just might be the driest collocation of words in the history of the forum. :V

DX7.EP · « **Reply #61 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:34:24 AM »

As part of a STG-playing

Spoiler:

spree I was on today, I went and played some Strikers 1999 and another run of DOJ BL after some Touhou and Gundemonium failures (how to manage S5 on easiest difficulty :derp:).

Strikers: quickly swamped by very fast bullets but that was expected. Had to panic-bomb much of the game, especially when it decided to treat me to the second loop. 27 credits, F-22, what a decent blind first run :derp:

DOJ: set options to Easy to simulate iOS version's Hard difficulty, played a 1-round game. Not sure if it's due to the 1-round selection, but comparing the two, arcade easy doesn't remove bullets that are absent in iOS hard; combined with the lack of quick-movement laser (an odd feature of the iOS port), took 9 credits through 1st form Hachi compared to 5 on iOS version.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #62 on:** May 18, 2012, 09:29:44 PM »

You'll want to play White Label, not Black Label for that. The iOS version is White Label.

DX7.EP · « **Reply #63 on:** May 18, 2012, 09:39:01 PM »

I am already aware iOS version is White Label (though Black Label DLC would've been nice rather than the silly Custom Mode that exists now), but prefer BL as far as the arcade versions are concerned.

Esper · « **Reply #64 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:09:43 PM »

Quote from: Thanuris on May 14, 2012, 01:37:27 AM

this might help you

I have to play on my mother's flat screen television. there's more of a delay than I'm used to in shootemups.

Sapz · « **Reply #65 on:** May 20, 2012, 12:21:37 AM »

[01:09] <&Sapz> KB: I think I'm going to stop SotW for a while, mainly because interest seems to have mostly died
[01:09] <&Sapz> On top of that, there's this new SotM thing
[01:10] <@Erppo> Interest died since there wasn't even a vote last time
[01:10] <@Erppo> We had tons of good candidates before that
[01:10] <&Sapz> Even on a good week, it's 3 people or so
[01:11] <@Erppo> DDP2 was like 2 days
[01:11] <@Erppo> Before that we had AC and that had tons of people playing
[01:12] <&Sapz> Well 5 days but yeah that was me screwing up
[01:12] <&Sapz> AC is I'd say an outlier, people gave extra support because it was developed here
[01:12] <&Sapz> No other games for a while have had this kind of thing
[01:13] <@Erppo> DP HK was mostly a joke, R-T II got bad turn out, Eschatos got good, S99 got good, Ketsui got good
[01:14] <&Sapz> Mm, more submissions than I remember, but still
[01:14] <&Sapz> Well, if everyone still wants it, I'll keep doing it
[01:14] <&Sapz> That's just how it appeared to me
[01:14] <@Erppo> Ask in the thread

That's the main point of the discussion about SotW; also, I apologize for the extremely slow setups lately. This was partially brought on because Shmups Forum is starting its own shooter of the month event, which I figure will render this one more or less pointless since there will be a much greater pool of people as well as likely more variety in games.

What think you guys?

Spoiler:

shadowbringer · « **Reply #66 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:11:26 AM »

I'd like to play either Varth or Phantasmagoria Trues (for SotW), but honestly I wonder if I'll have enough time to play any kind of game for long enough (because multitasking games, etc). I'd say let's stop this edition of SotW, and see how the SotM turns out. Personally, if I happen to not like the game choice, I can choose to not play it, like I would with either SotW or the bi-weekly Touhou tournaments.

If there's demand for SotWs, here, you (Sapz) could ask for game nominations before the time for SotW arrives, and use them as a poll result. Or make a poll at the weekend based on nominations.

chirpy13 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:07:49 AM »

I wasn't aware of this SotM thing, and yeah, I noticed interest dying as well. I think it's because we've already played most of the really good games, and we can't just keep picking the same games over and over, so it sort of just... Dies. I think it'd be sad to see these go considering how long they've been running, but I do see your point. I don't really want to push my stance one way or the other, since to be fair I don't really play (or at least submit anyway) for most of these weeks anyway. Maybe throw up Varth and Turbo Force for the next couple rounds though and see how those go. sb has been asking about Varth for quite some time now, and the same for azinth and TF.

Azinth · « **Reply #68 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:38:28 AM »

Participation has been steadily waning since the beginning I guess, but it's kind of silly to let these last few weeks make us consider stopping SotW for good. Considering that a.) the last several picks weren't something that could be voted for and b.) you've been starting them late, sometimes without even any kind of notice in this thread. :V As Erppo mentioned, before that started we had some good weeks like Ketsui and S99.

I think at the very least we should have one or two more. This time let people nominate/vote for something they want to play. If competition is still dead after that then we might consider bringing it to a close.

Erppo · « **Reply #69 on:** May 20, 2012, 12:25:45 PM »

Some of the good candidates that I can still remember:

19XX
V-V
Battle Garegga
Dangun Feveron
Mahou Daisakusen
Mazinger Z!

I say keep going since it looks to me that the Shmups Forum game is going to be Dimahoo. :V

Shimatora · « **Reply #70 on:** May 20, 2012, 05:55:08 PM »

I've been wanting to participate in SotW for a while, just haven't found the time until recent weeks. Been busy with exams and moving home for the past few weeks, and was quite looking forward to participating in SotW. But I agree with what's already been said - if there is still little interest after a few more SotW's then I'd say consider stopping it. No point doing something nobody uses, right?

Instead of just playing games that have never been played before, maybe do a cycle - I for one have not had a chance to submit a score to SotW ever, which means I may not be able to compete in the already played games as long as we don't play them. Either cycle or vote would do, IMO. But heck, this is coming from a relatively new member who mostly lurks, so I'd like to hear from others too.

Zil · « **Reply #71 on:** May 20, 2012, 07:00:58 PM »

I'm also new around here I guess, and I've only played in one SotW before, which was the Aero Chimera one, but I'd love to try some more of them. So my opinion, for what it's worth, would be to keep it around a bit longer. At least long enough for a noob like me to get another chance to participate.

チソウ タイゼン · « **Reply #72 on:** May 20, 2012, 07:19:33 PM »

I think I've been in one or two SotWs, where I've pretty much scored bottom tier if not outright last place.
I don't think System11 would have any fairer competition than here :getdown:

Jaimers · « **Reply #73 on:** May 20, 2012, 11:27:39 PM »

Ketsuipachi 2.5 trillion ALL clear netting me 6th place on the world leaderboard! :dragonforce:

As for SotW I do find myself guilty of not participating as of late, mostly because I just do whatever these days. But yeah one or two more wouldn't hurt.

KLH · « **Reply #74 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:08:08 AM »

So yeah, I've 1-ALL'd DOJ BL about three times already, with B-S, B-E, and finally A-E. No loops, though, because for some reason I always lose concentration about halfway through 1-4.
I also didn't remember the bee collection condition, and thought that both the 2-death max and the 3-bomb max conditions had to be met. (whoops)
Also, I don't exactly remember where all the bee locations are, so that bee collection requirement is a bit out of the question at the moment.

However...

I SQUASH HIBACHI LIKE BUG (i.e. the no-miss of DOJ BL Hibachi I mentioned a while ago)
Run completed on March 03, uploaded on March 21, and finally posted here on May 20, more than two months after it was recorded. Wow, I am lazy.

Quote from: Jaimers on May 20, 2012, 11:27:39 PM

Ketsuipachi 2.5 trillion ALL clear netting me 6th place on the world leaderboard! :dragonforce:

Congratulations!

Azinth · « **Reply #75 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:34:34 AM »

Quote from: チソウ　タイゼン on May 20, 2012, 07:19:33 PM

I think I've been in one or two SotWs, where I've pretty much scored bottom tier if not outright last place.
I don't think System11 would have any fairer competition than here :getdown:

The majority of the people on shmups forum aren't really that good, if that's any consolation. :V

Speaking of which, SotM is officially underway already, for those interested. They're playing Donpachi (NOW WITH A HONG KONG VERSION BOARD INCLUDED YAY).

K.B. · « **Reply #76 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:50:12 AM »

Holy shit Jaimers nice job.

Quote from: Sapz on May 20, 2012, 12:21:37 AM

shooter of the month

Oh. The SotM thing is on the farm.

I suppose this might give me a reason to visit there and start pos-hahahahaaa... whew, that was a good one.

I'm cool with whatever you guys decide with SotW, and if participation disappears then perhaps an extended break would be for the best (though yeah having a consistent start date and putting something in the irc topic would help), but if and when it restarts then I'll continue participating as allowed by hardware and interest. Still looking for an excuse to buckle down and learn Thunder Force IV, for example.

Shimatora · « **Reply #77 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:01:48 PM »

Quote from: Jaimers on May 20, 2012, 11:27:39 PM

Ketsuipachi 2.5 trillion ALL clear netting me 6th place on the world leaderboard! :dragonforce:

Very impressive!
Just wondering, is that arrange mode available in the downloadable content black label, or is it just on the Japanese disc black label? Hope that makes sense. :3

Zengeku · « **Reply #78 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:17:19 PM »

Afaik, it's only available if you buy the Japanese black label disc. It's certainly not available with RSG's ports. Unfortunately.

Shimatora · « **Reply #79 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Zengeku on May 21, 2012, 02:17:19 PM

Afaik, it's only available if you buy the Japanese black label disc. It's certainly not available with RSG's ports. Unfortunately.

Okay, thanks for letting me know.

Sapz · « **Reply #80 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:40:56 PM »

Alright, thanks for the feedback, people. We'll give this a few more weeks then and see where we're at. Next time we'll start on time and have the proper voting and such; this time since time is short I went ahead and picked one which had been in the voting list for what seems like years: Varth. :V I know one or two of you already like this one, so go nuts.

Shimatora · « **Reply #81 on:** May 22, 2012, 05:21:31 PM »

Got to Stage 4 on Varth and thought I was doing well.
Turns out there's a lot more than 4 stages...

chirpy13 · « **Reply #82 on:** May 23, 2012, 03:13:06 AM »

Your turn Zengy!

Zengeku · « **Reply #83 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:08:21 AM »

Oh you little... You use the C ship which probably makes the game a lot easier (at least chaining probably is because of range). At least I heard that it does. Oh well, I'll hopefully beat that score soon enough. I got close to five million today but the Stage 4 boss destroyed me. Mainly something to do with 'how the fuck you dodge this syndrome'. :V

However, I cannot play for shit today. I keep fucking up simple moves and my first credit had me die three times to the Stage 3 boss. Yep.

Also, Chirp. You should go post your score on SoTM.

chirpy13 · « **Reply #84 on:** May 23, 2012, 04:45:11 PM »

I posted it there before here. Also, while the range is nice for effortless chaining, A is supposedly still better due to its speed. The main reason I took C is due to the fact that it has a stronger laser - the spread was just a bonus.

Zengeku · « **Reply #85 on:** May 23, 2012, 05:43:54 PM »

Yeah i guess. I tried playing a credit with it and it was better at chaining. As in, i could get higher chains with it easier but it's far too slow for me to properly dodge stuff.

Oh and if you beat my new score then congratulations. i don't think I want to play this anytime soon. Not with exams coming up that I need to prepare for and also because i find the first three stages to be insanely dull.

shadowbringer · « **Reply #86 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:09:01 PM »

logging in just to say that I'm very thankful for the game choice for this SotW

(I'm posting from school atm)

Going fullshmup for the rest of this SotW period, haven't known about the game choice because I was reading stuff on cracked.com.

If anyone needs help with Varth, feel free to ask.

Third Eye Lem · « **Reply #87 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:09:36 PM »

Off topic, but after what seems like forever, I finally got THIS TIME in Heavy Weapon for the 360. I only needed 12 minutes for the achievement, but it feels good to finally get this. ^_^

Would've been a lot easier if I had someone else to play alongside me XP

Zil · « **Reply #88 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:12:53 PM »

This is pretty late now, but congratulations Jaimers! (I don't know what the hell is going on in that video half the time, but it looks intense. :V)

As for myself, I was messing around with DOJBL, trying to improve on 2-3. Somehow pulled this off.

Zengeku · « **Reply #89 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:53:57 AM »

Quote from: Zil on May 25, 2012, 08:12:53 PM

As for myself, I was messing around with DOJBL, trying to improve on 2-3. Somehow pulled this off.

Very cool job on the final attack.