Author Topic: Diablo Mafia (Prime Evils win)  (Read 73194 times)

OOO

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2011, 02:32:20 PM »
I think what you really needed to do was to state your stances clearly at the end of each opinion.
That way we have a good idea on what you think.
And based on your last sentence (of the whole post), I really want to do this.
@Rakanishu: That's nice. HOW ABOUT YOU POST SOME ACTUAL FUCKING OPINIONS, K THX

Ouja

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2011, 02:36:09 PM »
I don't like Rakanishu, Countess, Kaa, Summoner and Sorceress.

Rakanishu I don't like for making a vote, then refusing to explain it and letting Kaa bring out the reasoning. I know this is standard for her play, but there is something inherently wrong for me when someone else validates your vote for you. Rakanishu, do Kaa's stated reasons mirror yours exactly? Can we call you out on them for the sake of bookkeeping? The case on Countess I find more solid, although I'm less pleased with the beliggerent attitude. The early spat regarding Immunities I regard as a null tell on both sides, and I regard Corpsefire's eagerness as null as well; town could be just as excited to jump onto something Day 1.

For the Countess, I don't like the wishywashiness in that wall and the uncertainty all around. "Seems" is a bad word in my dictionary, that's reporting. What someone 'seems' to be doing is something we all can observe. The stated reasons for Sorceress and Corpsefire suspicions have all been posted, why do you ask people to recap it in lieu of denying the accusation?

As for Kaa,
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[I posted that I agreed with Raka figured that he was picking up on the same things I picked up on from Sorceress' post, so saying that I agreed and nothing else let me reveal my opinion and bait opportunistic scum at the same time.]
I hate people attempting to be Wile E. Coyote and placing traps, if only because the odds of grabbing opportunistic scum over MotK Town are about equal. The blind assumption that Raka and you were on the same page is odd in a game where you have no certainties of alignment.  What added value did "I agree" have for the game, other than attempts to 'trap'?

When I evaluate the Summoner, I notice only wishywashy jumping with his vote. I understand the Sorceress' criticism when he states that "everyone is equal" despite the spat coming before him; if he acknowledged that had happened and decreed that was a null read for him nonetheless, it would lend for more clarity. I am suspicious of Summoner for blatant bandwagon hopping and his follow up post being meaningless without explanation. His laziness in pursuing the scum this game is unbecoming.

Finally, the Sorceress fails to impress me by calling the Summoner out on the initial spat but consequently absenting her own opinions about it. That she later claims her case was because he random-posted weakens her case and makes my regard of her plummet. Thankfully for her, not enough to place her to top of the scum list for me.

##Vote The Countess, in accordance with the above. What correlation is there between the claimed fencesitting and the recap of the opinions of others that makes you inable to explain the former? What reason is there to go "mea culpa" over posting a wall of early reads while believing it is the inappropriate time for it? I believe you are scummiest out of the five I posted.


Nithlatak: Allow me to clarify: your post contains only disagreements, with no suggestions on who is scum instead. Do not debunk others' opinions without providing them an alternative. Laziness in providing this makes you seem more scummy than town. Why is the Rakanishu case superior to any of the cases posted so far? Think carefully about this answer, because a wrong answer will earn you my vote.

Den-O

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2011, 02:53:20 PM »
It's funny how the town read goes away when I correctly call you out on fence sitting bullshit. I don't consider it a misrep for me to say that you are implying that the Corpse analogue last game, being the weaker analogue, somehow makes it possible he's not scum, despite everything else you have on him.

I should have probably made it more clear that what I'm attacking is the fact you're defending the weaker arguer PURELY because he's the weaker arguer, after you've attacked him. It's a fence sit.

Nih: Random vote. I had no reason to believe it wasn't until now. But I do appreciate you finally outright saying it. I see nothing to defend against nor am I really interested in defending against likely scum.
Once again, random vote. People like coasting on those, eh?
It's not an opinion, it's empty reportering.
I'm commenting now, right? Your entire post  has no obvious opinions on who is scum It's scummy because it's a wiggle room post. Things not working out with your case on me, you just say "I never said she was SCUM". Your "opinions" on Summoner and Sorceress are more or less defenses of them, as if they can't make their own. But it doesn't tell me who is scum.

Anyway, I'm feeling guilty after all the meanness, so I'll be beneficent and explain why I said what I did. Interaction analysis 2 pages in is going to be useless. You kind of misrepped me by saying that she couldn't beat the wagon off her (though honestly I don't want her to, she's scum). If she had said simply she was going to look for scum in the first two pages, I'd have rolled with it. Such a specific style that's not very helpful so early is worthy of scorn.

@Eyeback: I honestly don't care what you think of my play. If you think it's scummy, vote me. If you don't like, deal with it. As for my reasoning, let me post what I put in my thoughts QT after making the vote:

Sorceress is scum. For those watching at home, the three reasons are:
Bad vote on summoner while suspecting me.
Suspecting me for an emotional reaction to Corpsefire, but not actively pursuing this.
Fake!effort with pointing out how many it takes to lynch.

I hope that answers your question sufficiently?

As for Countess, I really appreciate you restating my case. That actually isn't sarcasm.

I agree Summoner is being lazy, but it's town lazy, if only for the RIDICULOUS awfulness of the people voting her.  However, I WOULD appreciate more posts from Summoner before I give her my fullest protection.

Your case on Kaa feels like a playstyle difference, as does your case on me. You SORT of seem to recognize this, but, ah, how was it, 'just for bookkeeping purposes', do you think we're scum or do you literally just not like us?

Either way, even if you don't like me you're my new favorite <3 <3 <3!

Den-O

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2011, 02:56:43 PM »
EBWOP: I should make it clear that I think the strength of an arguer is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to their alignment, so it's even the MENTION of it that feels like fence sitty padding. Secondly, if you actually read my posts, I've been posting opinions on everyone. I just don't see any reason to make a wall of noise about them. If you seriously can't figure out who I think is scum, then this might not be the game for you.

Secondly, Countess, I actually linked you to Kaa explaining why Sorceress is scummy. Once again, you can either ready the game, or you can be ignored because you're not putting any effort into it.


OOO

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #94 on: August 30, 2011, 03:08:19 PM »
@Eyeback: I may "seem" (ha) wishywashy because I am undecided on them and want to wait for more posts to judge them better. I was asking for the cases because for some reason I can't see why they are scummy. If someone highlights it then I will definitely notice why you all think they are scummy. Because I just can not see it.
The reason why I thought it was an inapproprite time was because I thought it might be a little early but I wanted to get a post out there to show that I wasn't actually just sitting around and waiting.
If you were to say you were reading the game, wouldn't you have made a post about what you thought?

In my dictionary, "seems" means that it looks to me like this is actually what it is.
e.g "It seems as if everyone doesn't get my way of thinking, and that makes me very mad."

Cut by Raka:
Do you even read? I was never defending Corpse. I was stating that he wasn't definitely scum by that tell alone. Even in the rest of my opinions on him I don't really defend him in any way. Sure I say I think he isn't that bad, but that is just a personal opinion, not a defense.
I admit to fencesitting, but it's only fencesitting due to low information. The only reason I lost the town read on you was because all that misrep aggravated me so much.
Thank you for finally pointing out the case on Sorceress. I actualy understand where you guys are coming from now. I obviously couldn't see why because I'm blind.
Soreceress is now leaning scum.
Cut by Raka again:
I read what Kaa said when he explained why Sorceress was scummy but my brain was failing and I couldn't make any sense of it. In fact, I actually reread the game at least once and ISO'ed the people with the biggest impact on the game at that time before I made my post. So don't bother calling me out on not reading the game (you can call me out for not making sense of it though, as that's a problem I admit to having).
Also after your recent posts I can see who you think is scum now. Sometimes you just have to state it clearly for me to understand.

Kick Hopper

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #95 on: August 30, 2011, 04:28:24 PM »
@Bloodwitch the Wild: I agree with Barbarian. Explain your vote. Its not RVS.

@Summoner: You first declared you would wait for Sorcerer to post. Yet immediately afterwards you vote Sorcerer. Then you only post your reasons AFTER asked. You also required someone to encourage you before you voted. Neutral leaning scum

@Sorcerer: When you answered Kaa, you replied Corpsefire is better then Coldcrow. Yet you rather FoS Corpsefire instead of Coldcrow who is worse then Corpsefire. I find you to be contradicting yourself. Your action did not match your words. Leaning scum.

@Countess: You said you are not just sitting around and waiting. However, your post here does not have anything that reaches out to "active scumhunting". Lying?

##Unvote
##Vote Countess

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #96 on: August 30, 2011, 04:44:42 PM »
@ Barbarian: It bugs me that you ignored Sorceress in your large post. What's your current opinion of her?

@ Eyeback: For what it's worth, I felt I had a fairly town read of Raka from her first few posts. But aside from that, I figured that the "I agree" post would help me develop reads on others, because it would most likely garner reactions - note that this was not only for finding opportunistic scum, seeing as Barbarian's posts involving his vote on me are why I have a town read on him right now (can't really explain it properly though, sorry). Also, do you have any town reads at all? I dislike that you're basically throwing out suspicion against roughly a third of the playerbase. It gives you too much legroom for jumping onto wagons later on.

I am having trouble understanding the case on Countess because I DO NOT WANT TO READ THAT POST FORMATTING FIRST FUCKING THING IN THE MORNING. Okay. Can somebody please sum up the case on her using direct citations from her posts rather than just mocking representations of her? I'm sorry if it seems like I'm trying to avoid reading her large post, but I seriously go cross-eyed everytime I parse it. I will say that regardless of the actual case, her stating that "MY TOWN READ OF RAKA HAS GONE DOWN SO MUCH" just because of Raka's vote looks a lot like she's trying to mudsling and/or demoralize her attacker, which is ugh.

Nihlathak strikes me as if he's trying too hard to sound like he's the only sane townie, if that makes sense. I don't think he's scum, though.

I dislike the Summoner wagon. It feels like people are just picking on a target who doesn't take much effort to attack. As such, I remain nervous about Sorceress and Corpsefire.

Sorceress is still the absolute worst to me, because aside from all the problems with her initial post, I feel that her stance on Summoner isn't very fluid, and that she's constantly stumbling over herself in the manner scum with poorly thought-out cases would. Corpsefire and Eyeback both irritate me, but Corpsefire is closer to the scummy kind of irritation, while Eyeback is more just rubbing me the wrong way by suspecting five people at once in a 14-player D1. Speaking of people who rub me the wrong way, Coldcrow's first few posts bugged me on gut to a ridiculous extent, but I can't actually find anything wrong with them. Bleh. I'll think all of this over later, preferably once I'm awake enough to read Countess properly too.

Den-O

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #97 on: August 30, 2011, 04:55:29 PM »
@Countess: About me reading and you defending Corpse, I meant you start off by saying he looks worse, then you defend it by saying he was the worse arguer. It felt like you were attacking your own case? Secondly, if there's low information, why would you bother making a post of "reads" on six people when it's really only reads on one and wishy washyness on the other 5? Actually, I MAY give you two people, but you weren't very convicted for the second one.

@Kaa: I'm still awaiting Eyeback's answer Re: You and I. I feel like he only has three scum reads and two exasperated sighs. As for Countess, what I was trying to illustrate, albeit a bit rudely, was the fact that her first serious post is a series of "opinions" on people that doesn't actually say anything. It looks like fake effort and leaves her even more of that precious wiggle room than our friend Eyeback has. As for Nih...MAYBE. I'm starting to reach too many scums myself :P.

Pesco

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #98 on: August 30, 2011, 05:02:03 PM »
The Crypt Votecount

Barbarian (0.5): Charged Bolt
Sorceress (3): Coldcrow, The Summoner, Ancient Kaa
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (4): Sorceress, The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bloodwitch (1): Barbarian
The Countess (3): Rakanishu, Eyeback, Bremm Sparkfist

Not voting:: Beetleburst

14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
84% time remaining.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #99 on: August 30, 2011, 05:03:48 PM »
I tried to read Countess' post, and to be honest, I'm interpreting the waffly opinions themselves as being more the fault of an off-kilter player than an alignment. The amount of IIoA is something I regard as scummy, though - I would expect it to be used to help us understand how she drew her conclusions, but it's just kind of placed there without tying into anything and it makes her opinions seems kind of... I don't know, forced. I still really dislike the overreaction to your vote, too. For now, I think she's a good lynch, but I consider Sorceress to be the better target.

I can see what you mean about Eyeback, but that's certainly not how he explained it. I don't really consider him a serious lynch target today like I consider Sorceress, Countess and Corpsefire to be, he's more like one of the people I'm just sort of wary of (along with Coldcrow).

Cut by votecount. If it comes down to Summoner vs Countess at deadline, I'd definitely switch to Countess.

DiEnd

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2011, 05:46:39 PM »
On further review, add Bremm to the list of "people I wouldn't lynch today, but am wary of".
Something about the cases he's pushing and the way he pushes them doesn't set right with me. Except I can't put it into proper words.

Now I probably have the same problem that I have with Eyeback. <_< Bleh.

Ryuki

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2011, 05:50:24 PM »
Alright, let's get today started!

It's a beautiful morning!

I'd like to know what caused Raka to serious vote me first, tbh.

This post feels wrong. First off, it's worded like an answer. Second, it's an answer to... what question? Third, the fact that it's an answer instead of a question. Defensive stance. Know who likes to play defense more than scumhunting?

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.msg704797.html#msg704797

You read the game to come out with... a FOS? And voting me simply because I said "Bandwagon!"? Just because I didn't state reasons doesn't mean I didn't have reasons to join the bandwagon. And the vote wasn't suddenly random out of nowhere. And your scummy reads don't explain WHY they're scummy. Care to elaborate?

DiEnd

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2011, 05:58:07 PM »
On FURTHER further review, Eyeback probably isn't bad as my initial reaction to his post made me think. I re-read his post and realized that the way he presented the cases he wasn't voting on didn't actually give him much room to switch to them today without raising a few eyebrows. Damn it, I have no reading comprehension. Coldcrow and Bremm still give me a bad feeling, though.

I like Summoner's recent post, but would appreciate it if he gave opinions on the potential lynches for the day other than Sorceress. I don't understand why the majority seems to be lynching him right now either way.

Punch Hopper

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2011, 06:01:34 PM »
I love you too Kaa but you're still town.

Coldcrow:
Seems suspicious. Almost like someone who is very arrogant in a bad way. It also seems as if he might want the day to hurry up and end too. The mention of bandwagoning is suspicious. Only scum would want to quicklynch someone like that without good evidence(unless Sorceress is Shadoweh. In that case I'm fine with a quicklynch). The mention about the vote mechanic in the first page isn't really a reason for anything considering what happened in CotA with the talk about plurality lynches. Though I definitely agree that the Kaa wagon is bad. Neutral leaning slightly scum.
I wanted the day to hurry up. Not end. Stating I was trying to quicklynch someone is a misrep.
Bandwagons give town something to comment on. Notice how fluidly we evaded the RVS stage?
I'll tell you a secret. I think Sorceress is leaning town. Overdefensive scum would have noticed my vote on him for no reason.
Mob mentality makes everyone agree to see shadows that aren't there.
What else. Nihlathak is town but a VI. Rakanishu is town. Corpsefire is likely town for setup reasons.
Countess is scum for a false dicotomy. You state Corpsefire started an argument with Rakanishu and imply it looks bad for both of them. Why do you have to pick a side? Both can be town. But later you say Rakanishu is town. If you think one of the people in this argument is scum and you think Rakanishu is town that makes Corpsefire what to you?
Rereading that post brings me pain. My vote is half effective on Countess. Finding somewhere effective.

##Unvote
##Vote: The Barbarian


You are voting Bloodwitch for random voting.
But your vote itself is just a worthless prod.
You only think one person is scum? That's not good enough. Make reads now.

Ryuki

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2011, 06:04:15 PM »
@Corpsefire

You're pretty much a non-entity, aren't you? You don't look like honest scumhunting. What's so scummy about returning to RVS so soon?
My first post was just to get clarification on one specific part of Raka's post because it stood out in a weird way.
I peg Kaa as town since I found how I couldn't read, found out what he was talking about in regards to you, and posted a case on Sorc.
Same thing with Raka. I just noted the connection for later, should it be a factor in the later days after a couple of flips.
You are scummy, but a non-priority right now.

2 cuts. More posts to come still

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2011, 06:09:39 PM »
RE: Coldcrow: Why are you letting the set-up control your votes and opinions? Just because a vote is ineffective doesn't mean it doesn't count. The unexplained clear on Corpsefire is pretty flimsy too.

Regarding Barb, I think you're mistaking a townie genuinely being lost and having no leads for a scum parking their vote. Scum!Barb would have waited until he had a more concrete read to vote as to not draw fire with an empty unvote. Amusingly enough, I think your vote looks somewhat like a votepark as well, given that you're conveniently avoiding voting the Countess (which you shouldn't be).

Sorceress wagon dying out makes me sad. There were more reasons she was scum than "being overly defensive".

Punch Hopper

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2011, 06:26:46 PM »
Ineffective doesn't count. If .5 is needed it will be there.
I don't want to point it out further. Read the votecounts and it will become clear to you.
I didn't ask you about Barbarian. What you think doesn't tell me anything about him.
Let people defend themselves.

Ryuki

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2011, 06:29:01 PM »
 :V Seems people are pushing my
Quote
everybody looks the same.
I'll just clarify exactly what I meant by that. Scroll down any page. Look towards your left. See the avatars? It gets really confusing looking for posts.

EBWOP: Also, Corpsefire, you're very narrow in your opinions, going only one at a time on what's popular and avoiding everything else. You mentioned nothing else, and your jump on me is very suspicious because it looks like you're following the trend of votes, which was voting me.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2011, 06:30:16 PM »
Oh, actually, wait just one fucking minute.

Coldcrow, you think Sorceress is leaning town? When you called for a bandwagon on her just yesterday? Yeah, no, that's not going to fly. There's a difference between trying to trap opportunistic scum and trying to trap townies into becoming mislynches. "Mob mentality makes everyone agree to see shadows that aren't there"? This is the same kind of fake!motktownhate that Raka was calling out Sorceress for, only worse because you're using it to springboard into an unvote. I don't think town would want to avoid voting Countess over set-up speculation either. You're trying to avoid being caught on a bandwagon and parking your vote on a confused townie in the meantime.

##Unvote
##Vote Coldcrow

Sorceress is still terribadawful but I would be willing to pull a Demon Navarus and lynch you on gut if people were willing. Barb is still town.

DOUBLE-CUT! Coldcrow's recent post doesn't change my opinion at all. Her vote would still break ties in the Countess' wagon's favor.

Punch Hopper

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2011, 06:49:57 PM »
Somehow I thought someone would react that way. Sorceress was null before with a slight scum tinge for overreacting. I think she's leaning misunderstood town now.  The wagon was built around people agreeing with Rakanishu because who doesn't want to agree with Raka? But the posts come off as clueless as you seem to think Barbarian is, especially since Sorceress did the exact same 'empty unvote' that you're saying Scum!Barbarian would never do. Why is it bad on one person but good on another?

Before you run off cheering about how oh noes, you caught me, exactly who I was trapping? I'm entirely serious when I say I wanted to make a wagon for the sake of there being an early wagon so we could get that out of our systems. Sorceress wasn't in any real danger from it.

And it's not fake MotKTown Hate. It's psychology. If five people say a person is bad, the sixth will want to agree just to fit in with the crowd. I'm jumping out of the crowd. I'm a rebel like that. I'm going to ignore the comment about breaking ties because it assumes the votes everywhere won't change when we still have 88% of the day left.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2011, 07:15:58 PM »
Where did Sorceress make an empty unvote? The only unvote I recall from her was while she was in the middle of analyzing the thread, which is different from an empty unvote as far as I'm concerned. Barb's would have been empty had he not placed it on Bloodwitch for the sake of voting. I don't think Sorceress looks clueless, I think she looks like scum tripping over her own inconsistant opinions.

Calling for a wagon on a townie is still not a good thing to do, because it sets up townies for easy case pushing after the wagonee's flip, which basically fits into scum's agenda. We were already leaving RVS at the point you made that post, but if you wanted an earlygame wagon, why couldn't you have pushed for an earlygame wagon on somebody whose posts you thought were specifically scummy rather than only slightly? That seems like an excuse to push townies.The fact that you're so nonchalant that you called for more votes on somebody who you suddenly think leans town seriously bugs me.

The mob mentality line is ugh because you basically were discrediting the Sorceress wagon as human error causing townies to mimic the case you had feigned, when nobody was actually doing that. It looks like an attempt to make yourself seem smarter than the rest of the wagon. I do not understand why a townie would have wanted to even keep that line in their post given how irrelevent it was. Also, I can't speak for Summoner, but I disliked Sorceress before it was cool Raka voted her. <_<
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 07:18:35 PM by Pesco »

Punch Hopper

  • Punch Hopper
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2011, 07:33:50 PM »
I'm talking about the one here. You do realize she unvoted and then voted for the same person? It's an empty unvote because she might as well not have unvoted at all.

You're still assuming I was trying to get Sorceress lynched in the first page, and that I instantly thought she was town. I had a suspicion of lashing out at attackers. By putting the spotlight on her I've decided she's more interested at looking at other people. It might not be the reason you thought she was suspicious, but it was mine. I'm not going to protect her from all the infidels but I'm going to give her a chance to breathe.

I get the feeling you think I'm discrediting you in particular since you're on the wagon. I think your points are valid things she should answer. I'm not sure they're as condemning as you think they are. I will point you to the number of people that have mentioned Sorceress looks bad simply because there's a wagon on her without voting her. That's the mob mentality I mean.

DiEnd

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2011, 07:56:10 PM »
Urgh.
I don't particularly have anything to say to that other than "oh, fair enough". I misunderstood the intent of your Sorceress vote was and thought you were trying to pass off an action I read as scummy as pro-town because of this. Your posts still irk me on gut like Bremm's do, though, but that's not enough to make me want to keep voting you now that I actually understand what you were doing. Also, it's not so much a matter of "I think my points against Sorceress are super condemning" so much as "I think my points against Sorceress are the most condemning thing right now, from my point of view" (if I didn't, I wouldn't have voted her over everyone else).

##Unvote
##Vote Sorceress

Punch Hopper

  • Punch Hopper
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #113 on: August 30, 2011, 08:40:58 PM »
Maybe your gut just hates townies.
Bremm does look suspicious.
He suspects all three wagons. All three suspects are scum?
I think not. Who else, we would like to know.

Pesco

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #114 on: August 30, 2011, 08:47:55 PM »
Mausoleum Votecount

Barbarian (1.5): Charged Bolt, Coldcrow
Sorceress (2): The Summoner, Ancient Kaa
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (4): Sorceress, The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bloodwitch (1): Barbarian
The Countess (3): Rakanishu, Eyeback, Bremm Sparkfist

Not voting:: Beetleburst

14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
72% time remaining.

W

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Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #115 on: August 30, 2011, 08:48:18 PM »
My opinion on Kaa has changed slightly. He is seriously overthinking some of the cases engulfing in endless row of thoughts. Feels more like try-hard which gives me possible Town reads. Not entirely convinced yet.

Though summoner on the other hand has not convinced. Still pulls out odd posts containing useless info. Such as again where he said "Everyone looks the same". (Where the hell did you brign this up from again?) I like your excuse in the avatars, it is cute. Anyway... silly cute stuff aside... can you now explain why you parked your vote after jumping on the wagon?

HEY Barbarian, Beetle, Bloodwitch Can I kindly request you to stop screwing around and start doing something?

Ryuki

  • Dragredder
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2011, 12:45:43 AM »
Uhhh, I'll go finish my reads but for now, a question to the mod.

@Mod: Is there a hard day deadline?

Punch Hopper

  • Punch Hopper
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #117 on: August 31, 2011, 01:36:25 AM »
Finish faster.
Your question is pointless. If there was a hard deadline we would be told.
This mafia needs more posts. Makes me sleepy.

Decade

  • Decade
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #118 on: August 31, 2011, 02:16:19 AM »
I'd like him to read Countess and see what his GUT =D tells him.
Going off of GUT =D my read is... god dammit I'm mixing up posts between Countess and Coldcrow. They are both wiggly green ladies in black clothing/hair. Anyway, GUT =D is leaning town. Keep in mind I said gut, I didn't try to read into her and make a logical read because... I can't right now. I've tried x_x

Bleh... I'm having one of those days where I read the thread and read and read and it goes into my eyes and out my I don't even know. Maybe I'm trying too hard. Been coming back to the game every now and then for the past six hours trying to friggin make a post.

Coldcrow:Prods are not useless, and her random vote is bad because of how late it was. Also she still needs to post with real words; as of now, she is still coasting by with a random vote and we have absolutely nothing off of her to read. Lurking is really bad, unless perhaps you're at least making wonderful posts when you DO post.

Also I have a town read on you. I may be lacking in scum reads, but I'm upbeat in that I'm coming out with lots of town reads, and that significantly narrows the pool of people I'm trying to find scum in. I just need... more to look at.

Speaking of more to look at, the amount of people with 0~2 posts is groan-inducing. Half of the players practically don't exist. Some of the players who do exist haven't posted in a long time either (Sorc, Corpsefire)

I think someone asked me about Sorceress? Eh. I don't see what the big whoop was about her.

I need to look at Corpsefire again, and some of these people who've come in with one big post.

Faiz

  • Faiz
Re: Diablo Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #119 on: August 31, 2011, 02:46:41 AM »
Looking back through what was posted while I was sleep+work

Countess first post:  Just because the "strongest arguer" was scum last game has no meaning on this game.  And if you're thinking that way why does Raka look townish to you later on?  And how scummy do you think I am if you keep thinking my stuff is bad yet not good.  Also why should anyone cater to your needs, especially after the case on me was already linked?

Corpse's vote: So you have pretty much the same reason as I then? Same problem still exists with you, that outside of Kaa I don't know what you think about anyone.   And with this much activity?  Unacceptable.

@Fire Eye:  Not enough mana, out of potions :(

Nihlathak stuff: All I get from that is that you obv don't like Raka and that the lower lynch requirement is null in your eyes? Hell even I don't know how you feel about me outside of that, much less some of the other early players.  Not liking you right now.

Barbarian vote in there's kinda meh, Bloodwitch post was derp but now's not the time to be going for lurkers.

Eyeback: Would like your opinions on Corpse, and maybe ranking those 5 from most to least scummy. 

@Raka right after that:  So you don't have any problems with Summoner's first vote?  The early outburst was eyeraising, but I felt Summoner's vote+comment was worse, hence why I voted him.

@Bremm:  Closer look on Coldcrow came after going through Raka/Kaa/Corpse stuff.  Wondering what you think of Kaa's page 2/3 play, since that's where your early vote was.

@Summoner:  ... err, it was a request to where a quick vote+agree came from,  when 3/4ths of the game hadn't even posted yet?  And... if you're saying that the first vote wasn't random, then I dunno anymore.  And even if you're being truthful about the "everyone looks the same" thing, posting that right after an early argument is just asking for people to misconstrue it.

@Coldcrow:  Corpsefire is likely town for setup reasons?  Where'd THAT come from?

Vote stays for now, but I could be convinced to go for Countess or Corpsefire.

Cut:  @Barb: ... Huh?  Who are your scum reads if any?