Author Topic: Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation  (Read 63623 times)

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 24: Suwako
« Reply #390 on: March 11, 2010, 03:35:53 PM »
It's relevant to figure out how Cirno related what Suwako said to Letty correct?

Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty only coming out during winter?

Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's personality?

Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's abilities?

Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's physical health?

Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's looks?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 24: Suwako
« Reply #391 on: March 11, 2010, 05:05:10 PM »
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It's relevant to figure out how Cirno related what Suwako said to Letty correct?
Pretty much YES. It's relevant how Cirno would link Suwako's anger about frog freezing to Letty in a way that makes her want to dispose of Suwako.

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Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty only coming out during winter?
Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's personality?
Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's abilities?
Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's physical health?
Did Cirno think it had to do with Letty's looks?
First one get a YES, the rest more like NO. Though you make a bit of a wrong assumption. Cirno didn't think it 'had to do' with Letty (if I answered that way before, sorry), it's that Suwako's attitude posed a problem for her when she (Cirno) was thinking of Letty.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 24: Suwako
« Reply #392 on: March 11, 2010, 07:47:07 PM »
~Time up~
I'll solve now, because we don't need to drag this on longer than neccessary.

You all were pretty close and had discovered the events that had taken place, however you were still missig the motive of this murder and the exact reason why Cirno timed her actions like she did. That I shall reveal now:


Suwako was always scolding Cirno because of her habit of freezing frogs,
eventually threatening her if she continues doing it.
However, when winter started and Letty's awakening drew near,
Cirno wanted to share her hobby with her friend as well.
She wanted to freeze frogs together with Letty, but it would be impossible with Suwako around.
So in order to fully enjoy the potential fun time with her friend,
Cirno ambushed Suwako and managed to kill her.
To hide the body, she threw it into a nearby lake, which froze over during the winter.
Letty and Cirno enjoyed a nice winter together, but when spring came the lake thawed and the murder was revealed.

I'm not sure whether this was too hard or, on the contrary, too simple to be considered a reason.  :ohdear:
Maybe I just have a weird logic...

Well, anyway, next up is Thaws once again, with the last Touhou riddle we have for the moment.




Twentyfifth Case: Killer Unveiled
A girl was doing a demonstration.
Lots of people from all over Gensokyo, and even the Netherworld, Makai and underground came to watch.
During the event, someone was discovered to be a killer.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #393 on: March 11, 2010, 07:50:52 PM »
Is the identity of the girl doing the demonstration relevant?

Is the process that uncovered the killer relevant?

Does the killer wear a hat (excluding ribbons, horns and ears)?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #394 on: March 12, 2010, 01:03:20 AM »
Is the identity of the girl doing the demonstration relevant?
YES

Is the process that uncovered the killer relevant?
Well YES because that's what you have to discover.

Does the killer wear a hat (excluding ribbons, horns and ears)?
NO, but the girl doing a demonstration does.

Awesome riddle, Sakana, very Cirno-like motive, I don't think there'd problem with the logic, but it's really hard. :P

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #395 on: March 12, 2010, 01:38:10 AM »
Aw, wasn't on to ask more questions for the riddle beforehand. Oh well, loved the riddle anyway. Now for this one!

Did someone die in the process of this demonstration?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #396 on: March 12, 2010, 01:48:12 AM »
Did someone die in the process of this demonstration?
NO

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #397 on: March 12, 2010, 03:13:46 AM »
Was there some sort of corpse around?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #398 on: March 12, 2010, 03:17:40 AM »
Was there some sort of corpse around?
YES

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #399 on: March 12, 2010, 03:23:23 AM »
Was it Sakuya's Killing Doll? :V

Is the person doing the demonstration an animal youkai? Lunarian? Other kind of youkai? Human?

Ditto with the killer.

:V
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #400 on: March 12, 2010, 03:38:13 AM »
Was it Sakuya's Killing Doll? :V
NO

Is the person doing the demonstration an animal youkai? Lunarian? Other kind of youkai? Human?
Not animal, but it's a kind of Japanese mythological/folklore youkai.
By that I mean it's something like a karakasa other than something like... a "flower youkai"


Ditto with the killer.
A kind of Japanese mythological/folklore youkai.

:V
I'm giving a bit more hint regarding questions on identities so it'll be easier for all of us.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #401 on: March 12, 2010, 04:08:01 AM »
The demonstrator and killer are NOT the same person, due to an earlier statement.

Possible candidates: Kisume, Kogasa, Satori/Koishi, Letty, Murasa, Komachi(?), Shiki(?), Nitori, Nue, Suika, and Yuugi. Or do I have the conditions too wide/narrow?

So that would be... Kisume, Kogasa, Komachi, Nue, Suika, and Yuugi without hats, and Satori, Koishi, Murasa, Shiki, and Nitori with hats. Huh, roughly even split.

I'm guessing Satori was the demonstrator, and discovered the killer through demonstrating her powers?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #402 on: March 12, 2010, 04:15:36 AM »
So that would be... Kisume, Kogasa, Komachi, Nue, Suika, and Yuugi without hats, and Satori, Koishi, Murasa, Shiki, and Nitori with hats. Huh, roughly even split.

I'm guessing Satori was the demonstrator, and discovered the killer through demonstrating her powers?
NO, but you've got the candidates right.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #403 on: March 12, 2010, 04:18:50 AM »
Yeah, thought that would be too easy.

Is it relevant who else is attending the demonstration?

Were either of the demonstrator or killer from underground?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #404 on: March 12, 2010, 04:40:19 AM »
Is it relevant who else is attending the demonstration?
YES, one person there had a minor role in this.

Were either of the demonstrator or killer from underground?
YES. Killer was, demonstrator wasn't.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #405 on: March 12, 2010, 04:42:48 AM »
Race listing for the victim and/or other relevant attendee.

Killer Kisume or Yuugi?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #406 on: March 12, 2010, 05:38:11 AM »
Race listing for the victim and/or other relevant attendee.
Not a YES/NO question but since I've already done this before:
Identity of victim is irrelevant, but you can discover it if you want, she's just a youkai though.
Relevant Attendee: Youkai with animal features.


Killer Kisume?
YES

or Yuugi?
NO
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 04:21:48 PM by Thaws »

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #407 on: March 12, 2010, 06:53:22 AM »
Did Kisume intend on killing her victim?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #408 on: March 12, 2010, 06:57:53 AM »
Did Kisume intend on killing her victim?
NO, but how the victim died is irrelevant, as in not required to solve the case.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #409 on: March 12, 2010, 07:12:39 AM »
Can it then be inferred that Kisume was not caught by her motives or guilt?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #410 on: March 12, 2010, 07:28:38 AM »
Can it then be inferred that Kisume was not caught by her motives or guilt?
YES, she was not caught by her motives/guilt.

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #411 on: March 12, 2010, 10:17:47 AM »
Is the identity of the person who is dead relevant?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #412 on: March 12, 2010, 10:22:22 AM »
Is the identity of the person who is dead relevant?
Identity of victim is irrelevant, but you can discover it if you want, she's just a youkai though.

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #413 on: March 12, 2010, 06:14:50 PM »
Is the relevant animalistic attendee Orin, Okuu Utsuho, or someone from aboveground?

Did the relevant attendee make the killer discovery during the demonstration? Did the demonstrator?

Was the relevant attendee part of the demonstration (i.e. volunteer)?

Since Higan isn't mentioned in the attendee listing, I can probably rule out Shiki as the demonstrator. So, Murasa or Nitori?

Is the nature of the demonstration relevant?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #414 on: March 12, 2010, 06:30:48 PM »
Was the demonstration done on Kisume?

Did the demonstration reveal the corpse?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #415 on: March 13, 2010, 01:41:17 AM »
Is the relevant animalistic attendee Orin, Okuu Utsuho, or someone from aboveground?
YES, NO, NO.

Did the relevant attendee make the killer discovery during the demonstration?
Did the demonstrator?
UNKNOWN, it doesn't matter who made the discovery.

Was the relevant attendee part of the demonstration (i.e. volunteer)?
NO

Since Higan isn't mentioned in the attendee listing, I can probably rule out Shiki as the demonstrator. So, Murasa or Nitori?
NO, YES. Wow good job on getting the identities so quickly. :o

Is the nature of the demonstration relevant?
To find the "process" of discovery, knowing the nature of the demonstration would definitely help. So, I'd say YES.

Was the demonstration done on Kisume?
YES

Did the demonstration reveal the corpse?
YES

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #416 on: March 13, 2010, 01:46:54 AM »


I'm sorry, I swear that's all I want to post here.

Okay really now

Was the corpse in Kisume's bucket?

Was the demonstration a real-world technology, a technology Nitori has displayed in the Touhou games, a more sci-fi technology, or none of the above?
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #417 on: March 13, 2010, 02:47:29 AM »

YES

Was the corpse in Kisume's bucket?
YES

Was the demonstration a real-world technology, a technology Nitori has displayed in the Touhou games, a more sci-fi technology, or none of the above?
NO, YES, NO, NO.

Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #418 on: March 13, 2010, 02:48:59 AM »
Did Kisume put someone else in the bucket not knowing that they would die?

If not, Did Kisume hide the corpse in the bucket?

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Re: Black Stories II ~ Touhou Edition - Case 25: Killer Unveiled
« Reply #419 on: March 13, 2010, 02:50:09 AM »
Bleh, I didn't follow those too carefully.

What technology? Stealth-cloaking? Missiles?
There was something here once. Wonder what...