So I was called to do other stuff after playing some DotA.
Anyway.
Dormio voted for Shadoweh with the salad...rp...thing. Not really important. So, what did he actually do?
First, he voted for Serela in D1. Then a few posts later, finally posts his reason.
Dormio's next content post is http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15788.msg1038887.html#msg1038887 actually just a play-by-play, with nothing new actually posted. Then there's this where Dormio accuses Serela of doing no scum-hunting, when in fact Dormio is in the same boat.
Then there's http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15788.msg1039308.html#msg1039308 this which says nothing. Also, maybe a scumtell? It took Dormio over an hour to write a post about nothing, according to '11 new replies' and timestamp comparison.
Then, this one where an additional 14 posts magically appeared for your three sentence post. That means it took you half an hour to make that post and TWO OF THE POSTS WERE FROM DORMIO. A little chronologically confused, imo.
It looks like Dormio is not only putting in no effort but they are trying to fake it to look like they are putting in more than they really are.
There's nothing of consequence out of Dormio right up until the end of the phase. His net effort was to vote for Serela seemingly randomly early in the day, add in some reasoning later, then not change his vote.
Uhh, lol?
So apparently me saying why Serela is scum is doing no scum hunting. Okie dokie.
And if you're going to talk about the new reply warnings, you should note that I keep one tab open while refreshing everything else.
The fact that you're actually trying to use something like that as part of a case against me is pretty hilarious.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Also, goddamnit, fix your bloody links. I touched up a couple of them but come on.
Day 2.
Dormio starts off voting for me based on this post.
I've made my position clear on this a number of times, so it's annoying to be deliberately misrepresented.
Point 1 - Who arbitrarily decided it was no longer RVS time? Actually, it was Dormio, who, only a few hours earlier, had been posting about brussel sprouts along with me and, not incidentally, pushing for a lynch on Shadoweh.
Point 2 - Dormio decided that RVS had ended (and posted about it on day 1), and then linked back to it in day 2 to say "Hey Sky was still doing RVS at the end of RVS". So providing 'evidence' that they had arbitrarily created and putting forth as the new truth is the Dormio play style? OK
Then there's this 'Sky just posted fluff' comment. Bullshit. I explained WHY my vote was RVS, and also that I had put in a serious vote since then. I posted a preliminary scumreading.
Deliberately misrepresented?
If anything, I think it's the other way around.
Re: Point 1. Well you'll notice that, if you read carefully, there is some serious discussion going on.
Now, I don't know about you, but when discussion is actually starting and someone decides to throw their hands up into the air and shout "Hey! Look! I can put down random votes too!", it's pretty distracting and doesn't assist the discussion in any way, shape, or form.
Re: Point 2. This is like, the exact same thing as point 1, isn't it? Nice padding I guess?
Also, re: fluff. Okay, you explained that your vote was placed randomly. This contributes nothing towards the collective scumhunting effort. Therefore, it's fluff.
And your preliminary scumreading (which you didn't actually link and I'm going to assume is
this) basically boils down to the following:
- Darkninjaabc can't be scum.
- Serela is town because (?).
- No opinion on SB.
- Can't remember CF7.
- Cheez8 is tryingharding and could be scum but going to wait and see.
- Validon hasn't posted much and is therefore suspicious except I haven't read him properly and I don't want to do so right now so I don't have to form a proper opinion on him.
- Unsure on Dormio who I'm only voting because of RVS shenanigans.
- No read on PX.
- Oh I sure do hope Kilga is town but what if he's scum?
- No read on Shadoweh.
- No read on Polaris.
What a great amount of content that's super useful for everyone else to figure out what you're thinking.
It's like all, well, who the fuck do you think is actually scum? You had nothing but null opinions or very fence-sitting-ey opinions which is why it's all fluff.
I like how you're trying to both clear yourself and discredit me at the same time with something that clearly doesn't hold its weight and you just conveniently happened not to put in the link so that hopefully people will be too lazy to look it up.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
I actually responded to Dormio's post, here. What's his response?
Well actually, he did pick up this - People assumed I was newb. I felt no reason to disprove this, if it meant I could avoid some unjustified suspicion. But his actual response to my defence was a single throw away line here, where he talked about living in Australia. No attempt to back up his point or rebuke mine. But...there's no vote change. He semi-reads Cheez8 but doesn't say anything in particular, or change his vote.
I ignored it mostly because your response is bad.
I don't see how the fuck I'm supposed to respond to an appeal to emotions so I won't.
Like, all you literally did was affirm my words and try to put some pretty framing around it.
And why would I change my vote when you do absolutely nothing like scumhunting to change my mind?
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
There's another play-by-play here that ignores my defense and just reiterates Dormio's vague arguments earlier. I can't see a town ignoring a valid defence. A towny should have attacked my defense or accepted it - and amended their vote accordingly. Not ignored it entirely. That's a scum play.
What defence? All I saw was excuses.
And I like how, on top of that, you're the one ignoring my words.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Here's a counterargument against http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15788.msg1040533.html#msg1040533 Cheez8. It's relevant because I'm going to posit that Cheez8 and Dormio are scums together. Although Dormio ignored my response, he went into detail with this one for no apparent reason; he even says at the end 'back to making words about Shadoweh'. But at this point, he was still voting for me.
So? I fail to see how this is relevant to me being scum.
Are you trying to suggest that I should be focusing only on the person I'm voting and ignoring the rest of the game?
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
This post (No link, I'm going to assume that it's this one) is the first bit of actual scumhunting Dormio has done. There's this:in regards to Shadoweh missing my point about the not-vighit, that Cheez8 picked up, and then Shadoweh quoted. That was an alarm bell for a lot of people.
It's clear here that Dormio is 'suspecting' Cheez8, but not doing anything about it. There's some back and forth between Cheez8 and Dormio but Dormio doesn't really talk to Shadoweh at any point.
Uh, what the fuck is this even supposed to be saying?
I'm assuming that you're saying that I'm scum for suspecting Cheez8 but not voting for him, right?
Have you tried considering the fact that there might be more than one scum in the game, and that people might actually have more than one suspect at a time.
A revolutionary concept, I'm sure, but one that you should really try to get a grasp of.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Then Dormio vanishes until hammer time and then hammers. There's no thought process or any mention of reasoning on how he suddenly switched from Sky to Cheez8 (the more credible target) and then Shadoweh. Just bam, you're dead.
Uh, what?
I would have thought that, considering I'm your big scumread for today, you would have actually bothered to do that thing where you, you know, read my posts.
If you look really carefully, you can actually notice that I mention that I had faith in Kilga's case on Shadoweh and the anti-Shadoweh sentiment in general.
Which leaves us with Shadoweh.
Firstly, like on D1, I find myself attracted to Kilga's words.
Useless bunnies good only for their sex appeal.
This post also has my other thoughts on why Shadoweh was scum but whatever.
But, you know, I understand that you really want to push this case on me, even if you have to make up bullshit to do so.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Day 3! The very next thing Dormio does is vote for me again. No mention of the hammer business. But once again, Dormio pays a huge amount of attention to what Cheez8 says, and pretty much ignores my defence. He actually says "Sky_Paladin is too clean" so I must be scum. That makes no sense. It's also wrong. As I've said...many times...I'm not sorry for Serela. I am sorry for Shadoweh. Stop ignoring what I wrote except for when it suits you. What's you're actual case against me?
First, what would I even say about the hammer? How is this meant to be a point against me? Whatever.
What defence?
And I love how ridiculously out of context you take my words and try to twist them to fit your own agenda.
If you actually read my posts, maybe you would understand that the "too clean(?)" comment is not about you having solid play but you very evidently trying to avoid any responsibility for any of the lynches that occurred.
But I guess that would undermine your case on me.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Once again, Dormio quotes and argues against Cheez8, but where's the vote? Still on Sky.
Why? Because I believe Dormio wants to make a case of disassociating from Cheez8 if one of them is caught. Which is difficult now, because, both Cheez8 and Dormio are voting for Sky, despite Dormio constantly attacking Cheez8 and basically ignoring what Sky said. Actually, he continues to refer to his own made up conclusions as if they were evidence.
What even the fuck?
I think I'm just going to quote something from an earlier paragraph.
Have you tried considering the fact that there might be more than one scum in the game, and that people might actually have more than one suspect at a time.
A revolutionary concept, I'm sure, but one that you should really try to get a grasp of.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?
Dormio next appears to say Mitsuki is stupid without clarifying why. Perhaps because she's accusing the last potential scumbuddy, Polaris. Who is also, not incidentally, voting for me. Dormio reappears again to reiterate that he thinks Mitsuki is http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15788.msg1042114.html#msg1042114 dumb without any proof, just arbitrarily 'I think Mitsuki's posts are kind of dumb and I'm ignoring them since Kilga is super awesome and I don't have a reason to disbelieve NNR.' Mitsuki wasn't attacking NNR. She was pursuing Polaris. What's the association between Polaris and Cheez8 at this time? None, except for the one Dormio has in his mind.
Uh, because Mitsuki's posts were stupid? I don't really think there's much more to say about them.
Also, are you even trying?
Do you not recall NNR's claim that Kilga and Mitsuki are of the same alignment?
I think Kilga is super awesome, and I don't really think that NNR is being the scumbag that he normally is, so it's like Mitsuki is probably town too.
Which means that I get to ignore her posts because they're stupid and trying to parse them makes my brain hurt.
I have no idea where you're getting this connection between Polaris and Cheez8 from, but I mean, I guess that's what you get from trying too hard to force a bullshit case.
I know I said this before, but it really must be hard for you to make up a case when you're scum, huh?