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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #450 on: June 26, 2011, 02:22:24 AM »
Well, I use AGI items like Kitsune Exalt to boost her damage and SubDoll for her mana. The others are up to you.

Never tried this on real people yet, but AI's are helpless with her ult. Takes 2 seconds to kill multiple AIs.

With Suika I threw a dying AI to another dying AI. Double kill LOL :V

AI does not count.

Don't think we play at the level of the DotS AI.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #451 on: June 26, 2011, 02:23:45 AM »
Well, I use AGI items like Kitsune Exalt to boost her damage
not a good item for sakuya tho because she has 4 active and cast any skill=exalt ended
shes good actually its just she needs many items to become effective compared to other agis
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #452 on: June 26, 2011, 02:29:38 AM »
AI does not count.

Don't think we play at the level of the DotS AI.

I try to play at that level  :flowerpower:

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #453 on: June 26, 2011, 03:34:15 AM »
aw cmon don't cornering tbax-chan~...well play ai to learn how2lasthit and testing builds or get used to a hero who you wants to main not to learn the depths of the game
also dat yuuka
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #454 on: June 26, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #455 on: June 26, 2011, 12:45:08 PM »
I try to play at that level  :flowerpower:

You play at a level of jerk :V

aw cmon don't cornering tbax-chan~...well play ai to learn how2lasthit and testing builds or get used to a hero who you wants to main not to learn the depths of the game
also dat yuuka

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #456 on: June 26, 2011, 06:27:02 PM »
Tbax is fine with the girls, just needs to learn which item works better in what situations. Though I started out with somewhat same items as Tbax did :V so yea!

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #457 on: June 27, 2011, 12:19:37 PM »
Thanks hele, now I've made a new item build. So' I'll try it later

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #458 on: June 27, 2011, 05:52:46 PM »
Moar achievements that I mentioned on IRC

You win at Life: Land the killing blow as Eirin with Game of Life.
Sniper: Fire Game of Life at maximum range and hit the target 5 times.
Tom and Jerry: Use Chen or Orin to chase Nazrin for at least 10k  distance continuously.
KFC: Feeder Mystia :V

Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #459 on: June 27, 2011, 06:38:43 PM »
Translated stuff about Tenshi

Daughter of Bhava Agra (Innate)
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Sunny - I'm in a good mood today
River Mist - Earth Sign "Sword of the Unyielding Soil" stuns for an additional 1.0s
Typhoon - Earth Sign "Sword of the Unyielding Soil" does an additional 85 damage
Tempest - Earth Sign "Sword of the Unyielding Soil" range doubled
Scorching Sun - Heaven Sign "Sword of the Divine Justice" does an additional 90 damage
Snow - Heaven Sign "Sword of the Divine Justice" stuns for an additional 0.60s
Spring Haze (it's 35 faith cost) - Heaven Sign "Sword of the Divine Justice" cooldown set to 240/strength seconds
Scarlet Mist - Earthquake "Sword of Worry and Joy" recovers an additional 5 hp
Drizzle - Earthquake "Sword of Worry and Joy" recovers an additional 5 mp
East Asian Rain (Monsoon?) - "Scarlet Weather Rhapsody of All Humankind" does an additional 25% damage
Calm - "Scarlet Weather Rhapsody of All Humankind" recovers 50% of its damage as health for allied girls



Earthquake "Sword of Worry and Joy" (R)
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Recovers hp and mp upon receiving physical damage.

Level 1 - Recovers 2 hp and mp.
Level 2 - Recovers 4 hp and mp.
Level 3 - Recovers 6 hp and mp.
Level 4 - Recovers 8 hp and mp.


For Rikter, a translation of Utsuho's skills. Not much missing from the wiki, except perhaps the radius of the sun and the note about the burn damage.

Utsuho

Explosion Sign "Peta Flare"
Rapidly overloads the target with energy, causing an explosion at the target and dealing damage to nearby units.

Cast range: 700
Mana cost: 75/90/105/120
Cooldown: 10/9/8/7s

Level 1 - Does 75 damage and an additional 40 damage over 3 seconds in the surrounding area.
Level 2 - Does 150 damage and an additional 80 damage over 3 seconds in the surrounding area.
Level 3 - Does 225 damage and an additional 120 damage over 3 seconds in the surrounding area.
Level 4 - Does 300 damage and an additional 160 damage over 3 seconds in the surrounding area.


"Heaven and Hell Meltdown"
Rapidly increases Utsuho's energy regeneration at the cost of suffering radiation damage to herself and units in a 450 unit radius. Lasts for 10 seconds.

Cooldown: 10s

Level 1 - Recovers 5 mp per second while suffering 5 magic damage per second of radiation damage.
Level 2 - Recovers 10 mp per second while suffering 10 magic damage per second of radiation damage.
Level 3 - Recovers 20 mp per second while suffering 20 magic damage per second of radiation damage.
Level 4 - Recovers 40 mp per second while suffering 40 magic damage per second of radiation damage.


"Abyss Nova"
Gathers and focuses internal energy at a point, glowing brighter and brighter in the process, before finally releasing it in a large explosion that deals 460 damage. Utsuho can move freely during the preparation phase.

Mana cost: 200
Cooldown: 20.5/17.0/13.5/10s

Level 1 - Preparation phase lasts for 20s.
Level 2 - Preparation phase lasts for 15s.
Level 3 - Preparation phase lasts for 10s.
Level 4 - Preparation phase lasts for 5s.


"Hell's Artificial Sun"
Creates an artificial sun that causes nearby enemies to gravitate towards it, dealing damage per second to them in the process before finally exploding, causing massive damage. The sun's gravitational pull and final explosion damage increases proportionately with time. If Utsuho's channeling is interrupted, the sun explodes immediately.

Cast range: 750
Radius of the sun: 250
Gravitational effect radius: 750
Explosion radius: 750
Mana cost: 300/400/500
Cooldown: 120s
Channeling time limit: 6.5s

Level 1 - Gravitational pull strength of 140G, burning for 80 magic damage per second and max explosion damage of 600 magic damage.
Level 2 - Gravitational pull strength of 170G, burning for 120 magic damage per second and max explosion damage of 800 magic damage.
Level 3 - Gravitational pull strength of 200G, burning for 160 magic damage per second and max explosion damage of 1000 magic damage.

(Note: Only units touching the sun (which has radius 250) suffer the burning damage over time.)
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 07:15:44 PM by ApharmdB »

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #460 on: June 28, 2011, 02:49:11 AM »
KFC: Feeder Mystia :V
This one :V

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #461 on: June 28, 2011, 05:33:41 AM »
Actually, the sun aura and dmg was reported already.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #462 on: June 28, 2011, 01:54:43 PM »
What char were buffed in 966? China, Mystia, Mokou, Yuugi and ?

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #463 on: June 28, 2011, 06:00:20 PM »
What char were buffed in 966? China, Mystia, Mokou, Yuugi and ?
2 many 2 mention read the changelog
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #464 on: June 28, 2011, 10:01:28 PM »
I'll see you in hell!:  With a ranged character, die after you attack, but before the enemy girl dies as well.
Spatial unawareness: Get ganked 5 times in 1 game.
Survivor: Be the only girl alive after a teamfight.
Flandre wannabe: Critical for one thousand damage with a character that has no critical skill.
Burble burble: Die while in water.

Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #465 on: June 29, 2011, 12:05:00 AM »
Divine Judgment - Get 10 or more kills with Eiki's ultimate clone.
Achilles Heel - Obtain 4 Concordias.
Pocket Pals - Teleport the same Genji / Soku 3 times with Yukari's ultimate. (The Genji/Soku cannot die)
Signal Sign: Unidentified Fantastic Object - UFO down on an enemy as soon as they're recalled from Byakuren's flying saucer.
Power of the Yukkuri - Play a game with yukkuri only. Only the yukkuri is allowed to get items and fight, but the girl chosen can still farm/kill creeps.
Q.E.D - Wipe the entire team within 5 seconds using IIW's cleave.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #466 on: June 29, 2011, 06:22:43 AM »
Strike Out!!! : With Suika throw an enemy girl to another enemy girl, both of them must die after the throw.
A Sign of The Devil : Get 6 kills, 6 deaths, and 6 assists

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #467 on: June 30, 2011, 09:13:49 PM »
Stay off my lawn: Use Yuuka to defend a lane and don't lose any towers.
Disco queen: Do the drill dance with Iku and take out 2 opponents.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #468 on: July 05, 2011, 05:04:26 PM »
I always have delays and can't aim the drill properly @_@

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #469 on: July 06, 2011, 10:14:28 AM »
Any leads about why the devs are making those meaningless yuyuko ms buffs?

Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #470 on: July 06, 2011, 10:42:10 AM »
its some kind of gag, dont think too much of it.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #471 on: July 06, 2011, 10:46:35 AM »
Yeah, it's just doesn't make any sense. I'll ignore that for now.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #472 on: July 06, 2011, 01:52:08 PM »
And then Yuyuko gets Aya's ultimate as innate due to a glitch

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #473 on: July 06, 2011, 10:06:32 PM »
Inb4drama and endless arguments.

- For experimental reasons we unbanned Koishi after a discussion on TS while at the same time banning Lunasa.


Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #474 on: July 06, 2011, 11:29:22 PM »
No complaints here :V

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #475 on: July 07, 2011, 07:14:12 AM »
Nice to know, Helepolis. Looking forward to seeing Koishi in the game again.
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #476 on: July 09, 2011, 12:16:33 PM »
Note that I'm just reposting

Parsee's confirmed official movelist:

Innate: Tongue-Cut Sparrow "Jealousy of the Humble and Rich"

Instantly summons a copy of herself at low health while the real Parsee hides from view, if the fake one is killed, it deals damage equal to 100+Parsee's Level x 20 damage.
Usually Parsee dies anyway since she's so paper, but it's nice to take someone down along with you. This is not a counter-attack skill, sadly.

D: Resentment "Grudge Returning"

Improves the duration of debuffs of ally and Parsee skills for every enemy heroine near Parsee, maximum 10% each.
This should be mained if you have a lot of teammates with Stun, Slow, etc. Momiji's feared Maple Vanguard now deals a maximum 5 second Stun. No point learning this if your team has Marisa, Koishi or Hatate.

F: Jealousy "Jealousy Bomber"

Throws 3 bombs that takes time to land and detonate, similar to Reimu's Yin Ynag Jade. At level 4 it deals 150 + Intelligence x 1.25 damage and 2 seconds Slow.
It takes about 1 second to hit the ground and the area of effect isn't large, but the damage it deals is powerful especially at mid-to-late game.

R: Envy "Green-Eyed Invisible Monster"

Summons 2/3/4/5 modelless monster with green ballseyes, they have low attack but extremely high attack speed, capable of melting anything more paper than Sanae in a few seconds if they don't move. Their attacks increases equal to Parsee's level. Note, Chen's innate makes these monsters completely useless as she is capable of absorbing a set amount of small damage at 100% rate. In Starcraft 2 term's she's like a reverse Immortal, able to take on rapid and weak damage no sweat but cannot take big damage in one hit. Definitely Parsee's main skill.

W: Malice Sign "Midnight Athema Ritual in 7 seconds"

Chooses a hero, and creates a Voodoo doll next to her. In 7 seconds the hero will immediately die unless:
-The voodoo doll is destroyed
-Parsee is killed
-Escape from 600/900/1200 of Voodoo Dolls's AoE
-Parsee leaves within 600/900/1200 of Voodoo Dolls's AoE.

If they don't die, they take damage equal to 25% of their max HP, so even if they escape or kill the Doll/Parsee, if their HP is less than 25% they STILL DIE BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO DIE.

Never use this on a Hina unless you want SELF TEAM WIPE.

Screenshots:
http://touhou.cc/bbs/attachments/month_1107/1107052311b355d4fa1b69bb81.jpg Screenshot too big, -Hele



December almost mentions how to properly use Parsee, what to avoid, best heroes, worst enemies but I'm not going into detail(too long) but here's a default Parsee startup build and recommended items:


A Wind Hat may not be the best item, but it's definitely Parsee's staple.
Why Wind Hat?
- Affected by Parsee's D
- Use it on an enemy, 3 seconds on air, 3 seconds wasted. Parsee also times her F bombs and R monsters, surround the enemy and slow, OHKO GG.
- They decide to kill you, Parsee blows herself, they can't kill you so they have to kill the doll instead, but the doll has high Armor so unless they have good nuke spells, they have to run to avoid getting OHKO'ed

If there's a lot of DPS characters (Youmu Reisen Aya Koishi Flandre etc.), get 3D after the Hat. If there are alot of spellcasters (Sanae Marisa Utsuho Lunasa) get a GHGM. A stopwatch after you have a steady MP regeneration is great too. Don't get stopwatch early as Parsee lacks MP to do so early game. IAE is another great option as it wastes another 3 seconds for the enemy. So combine Wind Hat and IAE, they only have 1 second to kill or run away from Parsee/Voodoo doll.

Finally, get something that buffs up Parsee's HP (Tsundere, Tacitus), she's paper after all.

Control Rod is great, that means lesser time for spell cooldown and mana regen. Hakkero isn't recommended, Parsee is not a nuker, she annoys and restricts heroines.

Usually you get your invisible monsters first, then Parsee terrorist bombs late game as they do sad damage early game.

In my opinion, a Bloody Parasol wouldn't be bad for Parsee either, it can be another one of Parsee's Staple. +20 Attack aura and you give it to 5 invisible monsters who deal extremely fast but low damage = ???

Note: Parsee is an Intelligence hero

Note 2: Her title is called "The Jealousy Which can Never be Released in DotS"
So...
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 03:17:48 PM by Helepolis »

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #477 on: July 09, 2011, 03:34:50 PM »
I already know what i'm going to try on parsee first thing when all we really knew about was the rumored ult.

Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #478 on: July 12, 2011, 09:08:59 AM »
I played chen yesterday  :3 and I noticed that I may have missunderstood Chen's ultimate

Level 3 - Increases attack damage by 60. Every attack on an enemy girl increases attack damage by 40.

If I have 100-100+60 Damage, and I hit an enemy girl once, will my attack be 100-100 +100 then?

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #479 on: July 12, 2011, 09:25:44 AM »
Yes.
But the bonus damage only stays if you can continue to hit enemy girls.