Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN! (Read 47701 times)

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #900 on:** June 12, 2011, 06:36:35 PM »

Thanks shadoweh, I should mention too that you were a great player as well, sorry if I was kind of a hassle, I'll at least be taking a decent leave of mafia before I try my hand again, and maybe do it by joining in from the start too BV

Edible · « **Reply #901 on:** June 12, 2011, 06:48:22 PM »

Shadoweh is evolving into a Pesco-esque player, in which her insight is excellent but her ability to push a case needs work.

She is also the opposite of Pesco in that Pesco always reads as scum, or is dead by night 2.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #902 on:** June 12, 2011, 07:10:36 PM »

Quote from: Edible on June 12, 2011, 06:48:22 PM

Shadoweh is evolving into a Pesco-esque player, in which her insight is excellent but her ability to push a case needs work.

I will be so happy if someone draws a Kyuubei in Yuka's pajamas outfit.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #903 on:** June 12, 2011, 07:19:23 PM »

Whee.
The reason I replaced out was because I wasn't thinking properly. The reason my logic seemed so screwed up and fucked was because it WAS screwed up, and fucked. I tried to explain it as best as I could, but basically, I was wrong, and I was wrong because I was using the worst possible methods of hunting I could use, instead of actually doing the proven thing and read the game. My reason for clearing Schezo was literally because he claimed he needed 100 points to do something, and that his claimed action was "Protect everyone except myself." While my action was "Protect only myself." I somehow thought that weird split was different enough to be acceptable as a town role, while the 100 points thing made him more town, because I needed 100 points, too, and I was town. Yes, this is the shittiest possible reason for believing this, and has absolutely no real logical following, so it kind of pisses me off that people ended up lynching Anthy partially because he's not freaking psychic enough to divine something that not even the mods could possibly understand given they made the entire game.

Yeah, I deserved to be lynched for my actions, but Anthy didn't.

Other than that, good job, though.

Chaore · « **Reply #904 on:** June 12, 2011, 07:24:14 PM »

I think we can fix this still.

##Vote: Zakeri.

Edible · « **Reply #905 on:** June 12, 2011, 07:24:32 PM »

Fun fact: Shadoweh also got to have her scum lunch.

;_;

Chaore · « **Reply #906 on:** June 12, 2011, 07:25:34 PM »

Maybe you should stop being Edible. Might've helped with the situation!

Pesco · « **Reply #907 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:34:20 PM »

Quote from: Edible on June 12, 2011, 07:24:32 PM

Fun fact: Shadoweh also got to have her scum lunch.

;_;

Edible · « **Reply #908 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:35:15 PM »

ahahahaha fuck

Schezo · « **Reply #909 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:43:54 PM »

Learning experiences Ahoy.

I'm rather proud to have had Chaore as my partner at the end and that he did such a bang up job of almost winning. Even if he still wants to kill me now. I have some things to take from this game so yeah I think I can do better next time.

And Kiro's QT is like a goldmine.

Dorian White · « **Reply #910 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:46:16 PM »

<Dorian_Grey> It's always the same, when someone tells me that it's time for question and comments my mind goes blank.
<WMShadoweh> Well just talk about what kind of an experience this was

What kind of an experience this was huh? Let me see, it messed up my sleep-wake rhythm, increased my consumption of cigarettes, pushed my blood pressure in to unknown heights, made me walk a furrow in my carpet, let me question my sanity and I'm still feel an alarming desire to kill when I think about a certain someone. Well aside from that was it a nice game.

Please shoot me when I even think about trying this game ever again, Thanks!

Pesco · « **Reply #911 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:51:19 PM »

When are you gonna show Shadoweh the pic of yourself in a suit and steal her from Bard?

:V

Bardiche · « **Reply #912 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:56:59 PM »

Steal her? He can have her. How many times do I have to say it to get through to your thick skulls?

I don't love Shadoweh at all! In fact, I hate her and would rather someone take her as far away from me as possible!

Edible · « **Reply #913 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on June 12, 2011, 08:56:59 PM

Steal her? He can have her. How many times do I have to say it to get through to your thick skulls?

I don't love Shadoweh at all! In fact, I hate her and would rather someone take her as far away from me as possible!

Quote from: Edible on June 12, 2011, 05:08:57 PM

Bardiche · « **Reply #914 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:59:23 PM »

I'm not a tsundere okay.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #915 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:59:50 PM »

I agree that Chaore did a good job of making the best out of a bad situation, honestly. He should totally play more.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #916 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:04:32 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on June 12, 2011, 08:59:23 PM

I'm not a tsundere okay.

You say that

...But deep deep down, you really do love us.

Dorian White · « **Reply #917 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:12:54 PM »

Quote from: Pesco on June 12, 2011, 08:51:19 PM

When are you gonna show Shadoweh the pic of yourself in a suit and steal her from Bard?

:V

Let me guess, you mean this one?

capt. h · « **Reply #918 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:14:25 PM »

Welp. That was interesting.

Incidentally, LLD, why did you claim miller?

Lexicat · « **Reply #919 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:19:15 PM »

Quote from: capt. h on June 12, 2011, 09:14:25 PM

Welp. That was interesting.

Incidentally, LLD, why did you claim miller?

Originally it was to stimulate discussion and get us out of RVS.

Then I blew up and went bat shit insane for about a week and a half.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #920 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:25:35 PM »

Quote from: Chaore in QT

Editspoiler: i am not really working on the case beyond rereading and instead listening to nanaya's bmw theme and reading LPs. i am sorry if you trusted me shadoweh. >:

>:<

Quote from: Chaore in QT

Really I've got a -lot- of town support, I'm...actually certain this is why she's voting me actually. Shadoweh you are a crazy, crazy, woman.

If you look at my past games this is entirely true. I am a stupid for throwing my logic out the window for believing your doctor claim because you targetted me with it. And yes, that really is how I play, mixed with a bit of me trying to channel the invisible K4U QT in trying to dissect motives. Dormio's claim was scummy. But it was consistent with his play. THAT'S OUR DURRMIO!

Also Edible is definitely Lion-flavored.

My poor parrot had to hold me up all during Day 1. :3 We had some good times! Don't deny the song we shared!

Chaore · « **Reply #921 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »

Quote from: huh what on June 12, 2011, 08:59:50 PM

I agree that Chaore did a good job of making the best out of a bad situation, honestly. He should totally play more.

Honestly most of the reason i stopped playing mafia for a while was college interfering- Now that it's summer, I'm still honestly not sure if I should get back into Mafia. While this game wasn't exactly a standard game, during it I completely and utterly messed up my sleeping pattern just to properly play. Playing mafia is not exactly healthy for me due to my nature, and I end up staying late just -waiting for people to say things-. No big game changes, just, new posts to read.

At that, HONESTLY how much fun I have ends up varying harshly, depending on who's playing, how stupid everyone is being, and how many times I make stupid mistakes that cost town or the mafia huge dividends. I'm not sure I can always have fun during Mafia, even though I always seem to enjoy the end of games immensely.

At that, if I started playing more games the 100% record for me and K4U being on the other side could stop being true!

@Shadoweh: Hehehe. :3

Your sudden switch to me cut me a bit off guard, admittedly, and I think the -best- move I did was calm down and relax a bit before responding to you.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #922 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:40:26 PM »

Quote from: Chaore

At that, if I started playing more games the 100% record for me and K4U being on the other side could stop being true!

Seriously. The fact that it was HIM replacing him and I had already flipped town should have made him confirmed scum! :V

capt. h · « **Reply #923 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:42:02 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh

It's kind of like that. capt.h lives in a world of logic. He wants everyone's actions to make logical sense and doesn't understand emotions very well.

Well, it's true that I completely ignore emotions in my cases.

How do you argue using emotion-based evidence? And how do you tell a scummy response from a town one?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #924 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Chaore on June 12, 2011, 09:36:35 PM

Playing mafia is not exactly healthy for me due to my nature, and I end up staying late just -waiting for people to say things-. No big game changes, just, new posts to read.

See, I used to consider dropping out of mafia because I had this problem, but then I realized I did the same thing while spectating games anyway. :V

capt. h · « **Reply #925 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:45:26 PM »

Quote from: Chaore on June 12, 2011, 09:36:35 PM

Playing mafia is not exactly healthy for me due to my nature, and I end up staying late just -waiting for people to say things-. No big game changes, just, new posts to read.

That's why I couldn't play until summer started.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #926 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:50:00 PM »

Good game.
AND I REALLY COULD BRING BACK TREESTUMPS DAMN IT.
IT'S JUST THAT capt. h WAS GIVEN THE GRAVEYARD, ERGO, NO RESURRECTION.

Pesco · « **Reply #927 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:50:16 PM »

Now for the postgame ragehol and nasties.

A Yellow is due on PX because quite frankly, I don't buy that you intended to self lynch to save us the trouble of getting a replacement. I can understand that getting lynched for who you are is frustrating, but the onus is on you to participate sufficiently to change that. Deciding to dick around at the expense of the rest of the players is game ruining.

Edible wanted a Red for LLD as people will see in the graveyard QT. We aren't going to that extreme since she wasn't breaking forum rules. But a Yellow should serve as a warning not to piss off just about the whole game. You're free to cuss in at the game in your posts, but not haphazardly at other players. I don't want this to escalate to the level where people will /out of a game you /in.

These bookings will stay on record for the next 2 games that you play in. Replacing in or out will not count towards this tally.

ActionDan · « **Reply #928 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:50:27 PM »

Quote

Well, it's true that I completely ignore emotions in my cases.

How DO you argue using emotion-based evidence? And how do you tell a scummy responce from a town one?

That is how I like to play as well.

Appartently I believe the following to be Shadoweh's flow-chart:

Does person X's post contain an emotional response?

A)No - stare at them oddly, and tell them they are most likely scum
B)Yes - Quick! Make a gut read of either confirmed town or confirmed scum!

B1) is that person Kitten4u? if yes, she is always confirmed town.
B2) is that person Schezo? if yes, he is always confirmed scum.
B3) not Kitten4u or Schezo? Tell everyone to ignore them, and start a wagon on the sanest townie available.

Kitten4u · « **Reply #929 on:** June 12, 2011, 09:50:44 PM »

Emotion-based evidence is really the only evidence I use. I do pay some attention to role shenanigans, but not as much as some people I think. This is why I say what they do isn't nearly as important as why they do it. Because Townies Are Weird and reading people based on the inevitably weird actions they do will lynch more town than scum simply because there are more townies and because townies are more likely to be incredibly confused.

What to look for is simply asking yourself why they did things. I'll use your claim as an example because I think you could have claimed any role and I still would have cleared you. You claimed because you wanted to avoid being lynched yes, but you claimed at a time that would give town time to decide on someone else (rather than panic), you were exceptionally clear in it and the entire thing just read like trying To Get Stuff Out There in case you did get lynched. In other words, the motivation behind the claim was very clearly townie.

It's kind of like that. Some things are easier to read than others, and all things get easier to read with more experience.