Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN!  (Read 47739 times)

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #720 on: June 10, 2011, 05:10:15 AM »
Yeah, so I think it'll be worth it to look at other suspects. Who were your other two suspects yesterday and why? Do you have any other suspicions right now on who is the scum?


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #721 on: June 10, 2011, 05:12:51 AM »
The Twenty Eighth "Red Hot Chili Pepper (Or Red Chili Hot Pepper, depending on how awful the translation is)" Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (1): Anthony
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (4): Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Nine Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #722 on: June 10, 2011, 05:33:43 AM »
Yeah, so I think it'll be worth it to look at other suspects. Who were your other two suspects yesterday and why? Do you have any other suspicions right now on who is the scum?

My other two suspects were Edible and Affinity as I said yesterday- Edible I looked at mostly because I'm pretty sure 80% of his posts were simply focused on trying to off LLD, Summarily letting him deprive town of a lot of info because he wasn't saying anything but 'LLD is terrible'. If he was just focused on LLD it'd be fine, but he was focused on LLD and no body else, and I really didn't even know who his second pick was.

After that was Affinity, who looking back I suspected mostly because I missed his early case on Schezo which changes a lot, but mostly I got a bad feeling because he also seemed to be trying to avoid getting too much information on- And I'm certainly not losing that feeling, even if he was an early Schezo case maker, as he let PX go to lynch with a pressure vote on him instead of sticking his vote on the person he actually suspected, me.

I'm still looking straight at Dormio at the moment because his Claim -really- seems like an excuse to a vig he can't really defend having made, rather than an actual role, and the fact he can't explain why the fuck he can't make it work like he said it would really kind of makes me heavily doubt him.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #723 on: June 10, 2011, 08:58:22 AM »
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Affinity hasn't said much, but an odd thing I've noticed is that he was in support for a capt. h lynch alongside the schezo lynch, which is somewhat possible for how they were acting at the time here then not even mentioning him when talking about PX as a possible secondary lynch candidate here. I guess I could say he's giving me the same feeling as edible, being persistent, though staying safe with not as much posting, and not going radical on much, though he differs with the capt. h case then switching off to what everyone else was focusing on, that being a PX lynch, I may have been doing some of the same stuff, but it still grates at me, hypocrite or not Affinity isn't off the list.

I did say that PX was a viable lynch on later days, Schezo was pretty much the only viable lynch at the time I posted that post.  I can't really blame you if my sporadic activity makes you suspicious though, but with most of the scummy people on the second lynch cycle pretty obvious, I'm not sure why I should go off the beaten track and how I am scummy for not doing so. 

As for Chaore, since PX wasn't responding well when no votes were on him the previous days, and was pretty much an active lurker through and through, I thought that might change if he was under some form of pressure.  By the time I came back, you had obviously clarified your stances and posted a long drawn out thing on PX which I agreed with, in comparison with PX not playing the game or answering questions, so switching to you then would have been strange.

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Given that absolutely everyone Dormio (other than Schezo) had been on before today have turned out to be pretty much confirmed town, there's a huge blank in what Dormio did the entire game other than to pursue interesting targets for interesting reasons even when they would have earned some ire and roleclaim.  On the downside, much of what he seems to do is quite ineffectual; he occasionally made snipes on Shadoweh and capt. h but made absolutely no effort to convince anyone of his reasons, especially with regards to the question as to why would someone bus the godfather.  Also, his votes after the first first lynch cycle have been tad opportune; for example, he voted LLD at the drop of a hat and goes after Anthony without explaining his reads on other people.  His interesting actions and transparent thought processes do earn him some points, but with things like the way they are now, I think it would be wise to lynch him for today, due to the lack of relevant opinions he can lay claim to now and obsfucating roleclaim.

##Vote: Dormio

Dormio, could you tell us what you think of me, Chaore and huhwhat?  You only have four possible suspects here, so I don't think it would be too taxing to give us your views on us.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #724 on: June 10, 2011, 09:16:19 AM »
Chaore's actions so far have been so far null-telly in my opinion; he does sound sensible and raises all the decent points against PX and Anthy, though they are all easy cases and rather easy to find points to back up on; making a case on people who do not know how to make a case is among the easiest things to do is this game.  I do want to hear his opinion on Anthy's claim and the plan to test it out, and who he would vote after Anthy.  I'll put Chaore as the second choice today due to Action Dan's actions.

huhwhat's claim is executable by scum, but I'm alright with the wait and see he's been suggesting since it does gives definite results

Anthony I will comment in detail another time, but I would say that I'm okay with the way he makes his derptown mistakes, which strike me as honest and transparent.  That testable roleclaim doesn't hurt either.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #725 on: June 10, 2011, 10:53:18 AM »
The Have a Vote Count Because I'm Bored Waiting For My Exam Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (2): Anthony, Affinity
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (3): huh what, Shadoweh, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
Dormio is at L-2

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Nine Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday
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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #726 on: June 10, 2011, 02:34:28 PM »
Dormio, why didn't you shoot Lambda yesterday?


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #727 on: June 10, 2011, 02:48:12 PM »
I mean yesterday as in, before we lynched PX, by the way.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY Ten!
« Reply #728 on: June 10, 2011, 06:48:58 PM »
The FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I Forgot To Do The Daychange Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (2): Anthony, Affinity
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (3): huh what, Shadoweh, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
Dormio is at L-2

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Ten Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #729 on: June 10, 2011, 08:08:46 PM »
@Affinity: Anthy's claim is... I'm not entirely sure what I make of it. With Schezo as a Godfather, I'm not sure why this kind of apparently 4-day only bulletproof exists, but we don't know what Edible did, so maybe it's more important Anthy can also apparently dodge everything else. It seems just...overall kinda pointless, and I'm not really sure I buy it. Then again, I didn't buy Informed Townie either and we saw how that ended out.

Shadoweh's plan to confirm Anthy's role honestly would be great, seeing as if it's confirmed to work that way, I'm kind of inclined to agree scum might not have a second complete immunity role alongside a god father, though there is something be said about Town having 3 seperate roles that are capable of screwing up the Mafia kill, as well.

As I've said...three times now, I consider Dormio over you mostly just for his recent vigging and roleclaim seeming like an excuse for said vigging. The fact he further doesn't wish to elaborate on -why- he apparently 'failed' to bring Capt. H back only gets worse when you realize he is BLAMING THE MODERATOR for his failure. It's not that he messed up using his power or anything, the moderator apparently did SOMETHING that means he can't use his power. That he supposedly has. And he apparently can't tell us, meaning it's not a misunderstanding about his role- because he is perfectly capable of talking about his role.

So some 'big secret moderator mistake' is apparently why Capt. H died and stayed dead.

I'm willing to bet that 'Mod Error' is just Dormio being a normal fucking vig and lying. And you do not lie as town.

I only considered him Second because Anthony is much worse in my eyes as far as previous days go (Zakeri has no excuse for that kind of play and say what you will about Dormio's inability to give role reads, He isn't trying to cover -every possible lynch- and look fine), and there is the small chance that Durrmio is capable of thinking a lie is fine if you're town and it's saving your bacon. With Anthony being tested though there is no way Dormio is living over you or Huhwhat, as far as I care.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY NINE!
« Reply #730 on: June 10, 2011, 10:55:31 PM »
I don't particularly like how Omba ignored the early game.
Huh What no Shōshitsu (The Disappearance of Huh What) does not particularly help.
This post is like, what? "Guys, what's going on so I can form opinions because I'm incapable of doing it myself."?
Jumping back to Omba, yay misrepresentation? That's in regards to Kitten4u's vote, where Omba tries to make it seem as if Kitten4u has completely forgotten about Schezo.
I was writing this last and my brain shorted. Bleh. I think it makes sense.

@Chaore: Why would I lie about something like that? And, if you're right and I am lying, does that mean that you think I'm scum?
ActionDan was weird, Chaore says as much, and Chaore's been making valid points and stuff since he took over.
I'm inclined to think that Chaore is more town than not.

Aside from Affinity's somewhat inactivity, I've been thinking that he's town.

Dormio, why didn't you shoot Lambda yesterday?
Because I couldn't.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #731 on: June 10, 2011, 11:06:49 PM »
Because I couldn't.
No, that doesn't make sense. You've claimed you have two actions, one being a vig, the second to turn your vig target into a tree stump. You gained a total of ten points between when the lynch happened and when the vig happened. You have to have had enough points to vig on Day 8.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #732 on: June 10, 2011, 11:08:36 PM »
But my vig is 80 points.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #733 on: June 10, 2011, 11:10:39 PM »
Then why the hell did you think you had points for a second action?


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #734 on: June 10, 2011, 11:12:20 PM »
I didn't, I said it would take a couple of days.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #735 on: June 10, 2011, 11:19:17 PM »
Uh, you said you could bring him back as a tree stump when you could kill again, so like, eight days from now?


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #736 on: June 10, 2011, 11:21:09 PM »
Seven, unless I can't count.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #737 on: June 10, 2011, 11:26:26 PM »
And you seriously can't tell us what the 'mod error' was, even though you could just be lying and making it up as you go along anyways? How much does tree stumping cost?


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #738 on: June 10, 2011, 11:27:22 PM »
I can't.
And it costs the same as a kill.
I'm not lying.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #739 on: June 10, 2011, 11:33:21 PM »
Basically, my thought process for that vig.
*Send in pre-kill on LSD*
*Pre-sent kill fails because I messed up the PM*
*Skim through topic*
"Oh my God what is this."
"Thank God the kill didn't go through."
*Be confused as Shadoweh and LSD are pretty much confirmed town*
*Shoot capt. h because I still didn't like him*

Yes, it was pretty terrible. Yes, I am impatient and especially so after having just got out of bed. Whatever.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #740 on: June 10, 2011, 11:34:10 PM »
Okay, one more time, from the top, because your roleclaim keeps becoming more and more unclear.
What is your name?
What is your stand?
What are each of your seperate abilities and what exactly do they do? Don't refer to anything you've said before this post, type out in your own words what your powers do here.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #741 on: June 10, 2011, 11:38:34 PM »
My name is Giorno Giovanni, Town Endless Vigilante.
My stand is Gold Experience.
I have an active ability called Requiem. I kill someone over and over again until it stops.
I have a passive ability called Single Requiem. When I use Requiem again, all previous Requiem targets are brought back as treestumps.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #742 on: June 10, 2011, 11:40:02 PM »
And Requiem costs 80 points to use.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #743 on: June 11, 2011, 12:34:46 AM »
Hum de dum. Dormio, your reason for clearing Chaore is foolish. Go re-read Dan and Chaore fully and post reads of him after that. When you're done you might even have something to do with that vote, who knows!

##Vote: Chaore

I don't understand why you started the day with a vote on Anthy. You don't sound any less suspicious of Affinity, who you said was your next scum read, in this post. If you aren't 'losing that feeling' then why is he suddenly third-scummiest to you? I'm also irked you didn't start the day by posting those cases you lost the night before, instead waiting the day out. You don't sound convinced that Anthy's role should be clearing him. If you weren't sure of that and nothing Anthy posted content-wise changed your mind then why did you immediately jump to Dormio after my statement? (I was going to ask why you're still voting Anthy, but the votecount doesn't seem to have noticed you unvoted) Also, since Zak isn't here to defend himself, he did say why he was voting me, it's all right here. And I was being lazy. :V I can't remember if I was drunk or just hung over by that post.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #744 on: June 11, 2011, 12:44:18 AM »
Change "Dormio" to "Everyone that isn't huh what" because all I see for reasons is "Chaore has been making good posts, let's not lynch him." Yes, imagine that, Chaore is more well-spoken then Dan. Surely his words were so powerful they went back in time and changed the original role pm.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #745 on: June 11, 2011, 01:21:16 AM »
@shadoweh: Funny thing, I never unvoted after Anthony's role claim. Also a funny thing, I have -still- been referring to Dormio as second to Anthony. I do not see where I say Affinity over Anthony, merely I still have misgivings about his play, in the post you linked, the fact I am not voting him over the other two is for these misgivings I am thinking others are worse, this is a simple concept. And look at that, I did miss a very small blurb on why he voted you. I still don't exactly find that a strong case, but I'll admit that does seem to be a case- But does not excuse a great deal of his play.

Oh, as for why I didn't post those cases. I lost them. And it was a waste of time to remake them. I believe I said I had lost them before, yes?

Your entire case -really- reads as more 'I'm irked about Chaore he is clearly SCUM'. Just because you're confirmed pretty much town doesn't mean you should stop properly scumhunting, Shadoweh. :/

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #746 on: June 11, 2011, 01:32:58 AM »
I'm really really really not liking Dormio's claim.

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #747 on: June 11, 2011, 02:27:55 AM »
Lambda: Mmm, it's that silly Dormio alright. I'm inclined to believe him though. What do you think of Chaore?

@shadoweh: Funny thing, I never unvoted after Anthony's role claim. Also a funny thing, I have -still- been referring to Dormio as second to Anthony.
Oh, so you didn't. That makes me dislike your post even more. You agreed with me about his roleclaim not making sense for scum and outright state you don't believe Dormio's claim. Your post was before Affinity voted for Dormio. Why wouldn't you be the one voting him right now?
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I do not see where I say Affinity over Anthony, merely I still have misgivings about his play, in the post you linked
Correct. You do not state Affinity over Anthy. You merely start today with a huge case on Anthy, then state that your feelings about Affinity's play haven't really changed. I do not understand what about Affinity improved for you. Please point out to me where this happened.
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Your entire case -really- reads as more 'I'm irked about Chaore he is clearly SCUM'. Just because you're confirmed pretty much town doesn't mean you should stop properly scumhunting, Shadoweh. :/
No, but I'm told that's my regular MO. You 'irk' me the least out of the living players. Sadly that doesn't decrease your chances of being scum.


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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #748 on: June 11, 2011, 02:37:10 AM »
I don't know. What do you want me to look for?
 
I have a town read on him right now, if that means anything.
 

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Re: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: DAY TEN!
« Reply #749 on: June 11, 2011, 02:44:18 AM »
To clarify, I thought Chaore had unvoted. Silly me for questioning the votecounts.

Lambda: Can you explain what about his play is townie? Same with Action Dan's play. He's one of the possibly mislynches if he isn't scum, I doubt he's getting nightkilled anytime soon.


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