Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN! (Read 47748 times)

Affinity · « **Reply #630 on:** June 09, 2011, 01:51:04 PM »

Shadoweh, I planned to go to Chaore if PX didn't answer and if things did not improve with either of them since I considered Dan's misdirection of wagons worse than PX's active lurking. However, it looks like Chaore got slightly better and PX got much worse due to his claim and apathy and stuff like that, making me prefer PX over anyone else now.

I'll post further another day, since I think the flip will allow me to think clearer about the game and post better content. Since I'm not sure what Shadoweh's getting at, I'll wait for awhile, though, since I'm sort of in a hurry.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #631 on:** June 09, 2011, 02:00:04 PM »

I wanted to confirm you were in support of the wagon you ended up starting, since you stated it was just a lurker prod at first. If you don't have anything else to add I'm fine with hammering now.

PX · « **Reply #632 on:** June 09, 2011, 02:00:54 PM »

So Anthy, if me and LLD both flipped town, then you would have Town reads of everybody? :V

Shadoweh · « **Reply #633 on:** June 09, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »

Yeah I don't see a reason to wait any longer then. TO THE GRAVEYARD WITH YOU!

##Vote: PX

Bardiche · « **Reply #634 on:** June 09, 2011, 02:37:35 PM »

Friendly Hydralic Flipping!

Lady LambdaDelta (3): Edible, Dormio, capt. h
Omba (0)
Anthony (0)
Chaore (0)
PX (6): Affinity, Chaore, Anthony, huh what, PX, Shadomeh
capt.h (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (0)
Affinity (0)
Edible (1): LLD

Not Voting (0)

PX IS LYUNCH
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
Game Day Eight Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Thursday

And lo gathered the mob 'round, smashing and pecking on PX, whose wails for desperate mercy fell to deaf ears. The skies filled with "OH GOD NOT THE FACE" and "DON'T PUT YOUR FINGER THERE (wait put your finger there)". In the end, though, all the town could ascertain that PX was three things:

1) Jotaro ~~Joestar,~~ Kujo Town Informed Townie, but by now dead.
2) A masochist
3) Derp

The day continues as normal, and the votecount has been reset.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #635 on:** June 09, 2011, 03:03:25 PM »

Today I've learned PX actually seeming like town when he's posting to me doesn't mean he's scum. You shouldn't have lurked like that you green scum.

[pesco]testing[/pesco]

Edible · « **Reply #636 on:** June 09, 2011, 03:19:20 PM »

iasdjasodf work is killing me

I absolutely hate posting just to avoid a prod, but I don't have a choice atm. I will return later today.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #637 on:** June 09, 2011, 03:26:39 PM »

Today I learned that 4am isn't a good time for left over chicken and tea, and that I should think more and not act like a manager trying to make due in a company.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #638 on:** June 09, 2011, 03:31:35 PM »

I would vote for Anthy but I hate getting interupted by someone dying all the time. Edible is still just as bad as yesterday and would have made a much nicer counter-wagon instead of the town-town we so nicely put together. Someday people will stop just pushing along every easy derp they see and look at the difficult choices.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #639 on:** June 09, 2011, 04:27:51 PM »

I'll admit it now, yes I was an idiot for treating scum hunting as I was, and viewing PX and LLD as higher targets just for lack of info and derpness. LLD will still be on my list, but further down, Edible still doesn't really seem scummy, mostly for the point of he's been perusing LLD for the entirety of the game. Besides since we got the time why not chat a little on this while we wait for the eventual scum kill?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #640 on:** June 09, 2011, 04:37:49 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 09, 2011, 03:31:35 PM

Someday people will stop just pushing along every easy derp they see and look at the difficult choices.

I resent this mentality because I actually, you know, took a look at Edible and PX and decided PX was the scummier of the two. His "easiness" had nothing to do with it. Seriously, saying shit like that comes off like you're being somewhat patronizing.

I'll post something more substantial when I have more time. That just really irked me.

Bardiche · « **Reply #641 on:** June 09, 2011, 04:40:10 PM »

Super Friendly Hydra Flipping!

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (0)
Chaore (0)
capt.h (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (0)
Affinity (0)

Not Voting: EVERYONE

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Game Day Eight Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Thursday

The dust had hardly settled, or Edible lunged out of the crowd, weapons drawn, ready to go badass mo'fo down on whoever's face he wanted to! Then, somehow, he disappeared, and it's as if that attack never happened.

... It looks like Edible was erased, somehow, alongside the time of his lunge.

But that's okay, because Edible was Enrico Pucci, Scum Accelerator!

Votecount reset, 8 alive needs 5 to lynch.

Edible · « **Reply #642 on:** June 09, 2011, 04:41:42 PM »

Finally. <_<;

Shadoweh · « **Reply #643 on:** June 09, 2011, 04:44:55 PM »

GOD SHADOWEH WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT ALL THOSE POINTS FOR WTF

Hey, do you guys like unneccisary roleclaims? Because I know I do!

I AM DIAVOLO THE TIME EATER. I EAT SOMEONE'S ACTION. THEN I EAT THEM.

SO EDIBLE WAS SCUM AND LAMBDA IS TOWN. DISCUSS.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #644 on:** June 09, 2011, 05:08:31 PM »

And we can vote at will since I'm pretty sure I just stopped the scum kill. I feel no urge to lay out my thoughts at the moment because I am now lazy confirmed town.

huh whatty, you did actually look at other people, and you did look over Edible as a suspect. Unfortunately you also /agreed with Chaore's case on PX and jumped onto him instead of Edible, which pretty much ensured Edible never got to be a wagon. I have to consider this suspicious.

Pesco · « **Reply #645 on:** June 09, 2011, 05:11:58 PM »

Day Phase Changed 10 Minutes Ago Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (0)
Chaore (0)
capt.h (0)
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (0)
Affinity (0)

Not Voting: EVERYONE

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Game Day Nine Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday

Shadoweh · « **Reply #646 on:** June 09, 2011, 06:22:47 PM »

Oh, and Anthy feel free to chat some more. Sorry if my response wasn't exactly in words.

UncertainJakutten · « **Reply #647 on:** June 09, 2011, 06:27:22 PM »

...Well, that was a clusterfuck. GO CO MODS!

Everything they flipped is true, and I'm not gonna mess with flavor.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #648 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:12:11 PM »

Welp, with Shadoweh and LLD in the clear, that leaves 6 of us left in varying levels of scumness, I'm not keeping myself out cause I do realize I was being an unfeeling arsehat who was efficiencyefficiencyefficiency, and deserve any speculation that falls upon myself. To just say for some reason the fact the man kept on LLD (except for going after actiondan once, then the schezo case) thoughout the game did kinda push me towards thinking he was just a town trying to get attention on LLD, man was I wrong.

With that, there's ActionChaore, huh ombwhat, capt. h, Dormio, and Affinity.

to be honest currently I'm at a loss of specifically who to go with, mostly cause I guess I'm not looking at it right, and I'll need a bit to look them all over, I was dragged away sadly when I wanted to talk a bit, Overall I need to cover stuff before I try to build anything up, I feel kinda stupid for my earlier choices looking back on them.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #649 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:13:00 PM »

Do note I'm not listing everyone who I think is possibly scum or scummy, I'm just listing people who aren't defined as totally town, since we can kinda prove both Shadoweh and LLD to be town now <.<;;

Lexicat · « **Reply #650 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:19:00 PM »

A few things.

1) Everyone ignored my page long Edibleh case ;_;
2) Whoever made that Vig Shot is a lovely person.
3) Shadoweh and I are conf. town.
4) I'm torn between lynching Capt.H or Anthony

Lexicat · « **Reply #651 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:20:07 PM »

Quote from: Lady Lambdadelta on June 09, 2011, 01:19:13 AM

Reasons you should be lynching Edible (Now with 75% less ~~temporary~~ insanity!)

1. For someone who likes to accuse people of "Gotcha Games", he sure likes to attack scum slips a LOT.

For example, see this vote on ActionDan.

Edible likes to avoid doing any REAL scumhunting, by attacking people's rhetoric and calling it scummy. He then proceeds to follow it up with stating that he finds them to be in "scum intent", but never actually shows any of his intent reads.

This post outlining his "case" on me is quite telling of his intentions. He talks only about these traps I laid, and says they have "scum intent". Yet again, he does not EXPLAIN the scum intent in any meaningful way.

The best part is when in his next post, he says that what I was doing was contended among players enough to be a null read. He basically admits to seeing town players do it as often as scum.

2. Edibleh has a very nice connection to Schezo!scum

Seen in this post, Edible gives some credence to a Schezo case, but also tries to downplay it by insisting that being "derpscum is Schezo's Meta". Meta arguments like these are PERFECT for scum, because:

1) They are believed, and thus very effective
2) Most people won't challenge them

So it's a very subtle way for one scum to try and derail the other's wagon. It didn't work in the end, but this is something to note.

Edible's interactions with Schezo that day do not lend to him being town.

Moar Evidence: Here can be found the post where Edible distances himself from a hopeless cause in the Schezo wagon. He tried to appear slightly town by questioning some of the people who hopped on the wagon, but for the most part he concedes it as a lost cause.

The most telling thing in this post is how Edible says he would "like to see Schezo lynched", but never actually votes him. At this point he is still holding out some glimmer of hope that Schezo might pull a miracle. When nothing comes, Edible promises his hammer later on, but I go insane and freeze time...

Moar of Edible trying to save Schezo by pushing me, but notice how he keeps distancing himself with that little "or Schezo first" comment. It's very subtle, but it does give the impression that Edible wants Schezo lynched, without him ever having to come out and push the wagon. He's hoping it will stall.

3. YOU'RE SCUM! WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO~

Edible's first real post after Schezo's lynch is here, and in it you will notice that he claims to have had a "BIG LONG WINDED POST OF EPIC WRITTEN." and it is "TOO GOOD/RAGE FOR YOUR SOFT EYES".

In reality, this is an excuse by Edible to help push his lynch, without the hassle of writing the damn case. He can't give legit points that will stick, so he falls back on ol' reliable.

Mystery Scum Intent X.

You may be asking what this is, and I'll explain. It's when you say something is scummy, and your justification is "it has scum intent".

Well, ok. But what IS the intent? If you can so clearly see what the intent behind a post is, why aren't you sharing? Is it because you could potentially get refuted, or worse suspected for misrepresentation?

Edible was asked on MULTIPLE occasions to EXPLAIN the intent he was seeing. Not once has he done so.

4. MOAR RHETORIC ATTACKS

Uno
Dos
Tres

Nothing in these posts ever explains why he sees me as scum. It only attacks me for the following:

A scum slip
"Flailing"
A quote from the mod, implying I was "trying to mislead town" because I was mistaken about a RULE.
ad-hom OMGUS (first off, both of these are null tells. Secondly, they are buzz words designed to garner a reaction and get people motivated to lynch someone)
"twisting his words" (In reality, it is he who twists mine in that post, as I pointed out after words. He misrepresents me by saying I never explained why scum would attack miller... when I did.)

AND THE COUP D'GRACE: He attacks me BECAUSE I WROTE DOWN THE WRONG NAME WHEN I WAS ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING.

According to Edible, because I mistook Schezo for Serp... I was super busing Schezo with this misrepresentation.

Isn't he great folks? His whole case, and not a single "intent" read in the lot. For someone who claims to base their reads on intent, he doesn't seem to base his cases on them?

I think that's all for now. I thought I had a 5th point, but it now slips my mind. I'll make sure to get around to saying it if it comes back to me.

Is this the time for an "I told you so" moment?

Lexicat · « **Reply #652 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:22:18 PM »

Upon further review, nice work Shadoweh~

Lexicat · « **Reply #653 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »

##Vote: Capt.H

Shadoweh · « **Reply #654 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:30:49 PM »

Quote from: Lady Lambdadelta on June 09, 2011, 07:19:00 PM

2) Whoever made that Vig Shot is a lovely person.

You're welcome and I know I am. You can thank me for the lack of townie death today too, because I am just that awesome. Much more awesome then you. Your case was good but everything before that was not. The only reason you're alive is because I put my foot down. This is not an I told you so moment for you. I'd appreciate it if you take the time to look through both our scum before deciding who the straggler is.

Lexicat · « **Reply #655 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 09, 2011, 07:30:49 PM

You're welcome and I know I am. You can thank me for the lack of townie death today too, because I am just that awesome. Much more awesome then you. Your case was good but everything before that was not. The only reason you're alive is because I put my foot down. This is not an I told you so moment for you. I'd appreciate it if you take the time to look through both our scum before deciding who the straggler is.

I just told you. Anthony or Capt.H is my best guess right now.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #656 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:37:07 PM »

Okay. Why is Anthy or Capt.h scum with Schezo and Edible?

Lexicat · « **Reply #657 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:37:16 PM »

Oh, and my opinion on what I did for the first 7 days of this game is [redacted until post-game].

(Hint: It's an apology)

Lexicat · « **Reply #658 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:39:14 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 09, 2011, 07:37:07 PM

Okay. Why is Anthy or Capt.h scum with Schezo and Edible?

Give me a moment will ya? I am gonna write a case.

At the moment though, it's based upon how neither of them wanted Edible lynched, and they both sort of tried to defend him in different ways.

Capt.H wanted to kill me pretty badly, and avoided talking about anything to do with voting Edibleh.

Anthony's interaction with you on page 21 is not lending well to the Edible!scum flip we recieved.

That's my two top suspects, I'll make larger cases on them to follow.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #659 on:** June 09, 2011, 07:45:37 PM »

I was on the fence of thinking Edible was scum or not thank you very much, also the page 21 situation was caused by my choice of thinking efficiency over anything else. To be frank I never really saw much to edible other than the point of him being focused on you LLD, it wasn't really something sticking out till the point of the massive flipout which made me think in the way of efficiency, and kinda why I treated edible's case on you as more of a thing to look at after PX being dead. Now excuse me while I go and re-read the entire thread while trying to keep up with what's going on now.