Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure

[Hello Purvis]

>"How much?"
>Incidentally, did we ever collect that favor from Maribel?

>"Call it thirty five," says the oni.
>Mostly. You stayed at her house with no prior notice, dropping in in the middle of the night. You consider it filled, but could easily wring a little more out of it.

>_

[DracoOmega]

>Are these things typically negotiable without slighting the other party?
>Assuming so, make a counter-offer at whatever we think a fair response is. Nothing low enough to put her on the defensive.

[Hello Purvis]

>Are these things typically negotiable without slighting the other party?
>Assuming so, make a counter-offer at whatever we think a fair response is. Nothing low enough to put her on the defensive.

>Typically, it's usually pretty clear when a streetear isn't willing to negotiate, because they will tell you.
>You suggest 10☼
>"Thirty," she says. "And that'd because I like your plum wine."

>_

[Fightest]

>You suggest 10☼
>"Thirty," she says. "And that'd because I like your plum wine."

>_

> "Twenty, and I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for."

[Kips McKipzerson]

> "Twenty, and I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for."

I think this may be pushing it a bit.
"Twenty-Five and you got yourself a deal."

[UncertainJakutten]

I'd trust Fightest, Kips. He knows how to do this negotiation stuff, if things he's done in DnD are any indication.

[Sect]

The problem I see with Fightest's suggestion is the "I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for" bit: the streetear has no reason to come to Nue with future information if Nue's trying to control the negotiations in her favor. If Nue's going to try to control the next big bit of information, she's going to have to give up something in return.

[UncertainJakutten]

I expect Fightest doesn't actually expect this to go that far, but figured that such an offer would be more conducive to haggling. Regardless, you all should work it out since quite honestly I suck at negotiatins.

[Shadoweh]

I suggest we backstab the oni and loot the information
I agree with Sect. If you're a generous buyer and ask the informant after paying to come to you with more info later, I'd think they'd be more likely to treat you like a good repeat customer then if you're cheap to them.

[Solais]

The first very important choice people!
I suggest going with the "I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for.", but with 25 instead.

[Fightest]

The problem I see with Fightest's suggestion is the "I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for" bit: the streetear has no reason to come to Nue with future information if Nue's trying to control the negotiations in her favor. If Nue's going to try to control the next big bit of information, she's going to have to give up something in return.

Twenty's generous enough already. The deal is an investment of trust, the streetear knows that the next rumour she picks up will be bought (assuming she's any good at gathering information). It's simple trade.

[GuyYouMetOnline]

I'm with Fightest on this one. Besides, we're haggling. We're supposed to go back and forth until we reach an agreeable price.

[Kilgamayan]

I say we challenge the streetear to a dance-off.

[Oldmansour]

I say we challenge the streetear to a dance-off.

Seconded.

[日巫子]

I say we challenge the streetear to a dance-off.

Thirded.

[Yonowaaru]

Fourthed.

[Hello Purvis]

> "Twenty, and I'm the first to hear the next rumour worth paying for."

>"The Deva would have my hide," says the streetear, shaking her head. "Twenty-five, and you pass me the next interesting thing you come across first, eh?"

>_

[E-Nazrin]

>Do we have any idea which Deva she might be referring to?

[Shadoweh]

> Do we have any streetears or information brokers we deal with often or who work for us?
> For that matter, who do we currently have employed?

[Hello Purvis]

>Do we have any idea which Deva she might be referring to?

>Most likely, it would be Deva K. She has the most interest in streetears by far; she's something of a natural gossip.

> Do we have any streetears or information brokers we deal with often or who work for us?
> For that matter, who do we currently have employed?

>You have a couple of regular contacts who watch the market for you, feeding you information on prices and surpluses in exchange for cheap drinks. When you have to leave the pub while it's open, you usually put one of them in charge or a regular you trust; it's a pretty rare occurrence.

>_

[Kilgamayan]

Told you we should have challenged her to that dance-off.

[Kasu]

I say we take her new deal.  Just gotta hope it's not completely useless info.

[Sect]

Twenty's generous enough already. The deal is an investment of trust, the streetear knows that the next rumour she picks up will be bought (assuming she's any good at gathering information). It's simple trade.

Except we're trying to get her to trust us: oni, by their nature, are honest to a fault, while we, a, well, Nue, are pretty much the definition of connivery. If we're going to build a relationship of trust, then we need to offer something to her, not demand that she give us something. In fact, her counter offer of us letting her know of juicy gossip would have been perfect to go with the offer of 20.

I'm with Fightest on this one. Besides, we're haggling. We're supposed to go back and forth until we reach an agreeable price.

When you haggle, you also need to offer something of value to them.

> How much do we sell a shot of something good for?
> If it's five or less, then: "Okay, twenty, I'll pass on something interesting to you, and a shot of (insert drink here) to go with it."

The reasoning for the shot is that it's something an oni would be interested in, and it'll still be cheaper than twenty-five.

[Hello Purvis]

> How much do we sell a shot of something good for?
> If it's five or less, then: "Okay, twenty, I'll pass on something interesting to you, and a shot of (insert drink here) to go with it."

>It various, but usually you'll want from 2-5☼ for them, depending on quality and such.
>You offer her a shot of one of your house drinks. "Deal," she says, holding out her hand.

>_

[Sect]

> To shake, or for the cash?
> Did we remember to grab cash? Or our spellcards, for that matter?

[Hello Purvis]

> To shake, or for the cash?
> Did we remember to grab cash? Or our spellcards, for that matter?

>It seems to be the latter, unless some kind up upturned palm handshake is becoming popular these days?
>You didn't grab anything at all, you silly Nue!

>_

[Sect]

> orz
> "Huh, left my cash in my other dress. Tell you what, I'll let you inside so you can take a seat, and you can give me the info over a shot."

[Hello Purvis]

> orz
> "Huh, left my cash in my other dress. Tell you what, I'll let you inside so you can take a seat, and you can give me the info over a shot."

>It is so *frumple!* Arilou *quick babies* are always getting in *front* of *fingers*!
>"Should do," says the oni, as she stands up and shakes some of the road dirt from her shawl.

>_

[Fightest]

Except we're trying to get her to trust us: oni, by their nature, are honest to a fault, while we, a, well, Nue, are pretty much the definition of connivery. If we're going to build a relationship of trust, then we need to offer something to her, not demand that she give us something. In fact, her counter offer of us letting her know of juicy gossip would have been perfect to go with the offer of 20.
When you haggle, you also need to offer something of value to them.

We're in a position of power here. If we don't buy, the oni goes hungry. Offering regular custom would be enough to have her eating out of the palm of our hand. Regardless, it's done now, but keep that in mind for the future.

> Listen to what the oni has to say.
> Give her a shot. Nothing too fancy, just enough to loosen the tongue without the warm tingle of good liquor.

[Hello Purvis]

> Listen to what the oni has to say.
> Give her a shot. Nothing too fancy, just enough to loosen the tongue without the warm tingle of good liquor.

>You lead her inside and serve up a shot of one of your cheaper house blends. The oni downs it and says, "So, you 'ad a friend come by."

>_