Let's Discuss Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Happiest Anime Ever

[Prody]

Kuzu Madoka series on Nico: 1 2 3 (Spoilers alert, if that's needed)

[Slaves]

okay this is coming out of the blue but google's not turning out anything and this is the only other place i can ask

is there going to be another volume of the ost?

i ask this mainly because the song used here wasn't on the one that was released

and also because the one that was released was called volume 1 i think?

is it bad that i didn't even watch this but i'm freaking out over the music anyway

[Iryan]

is there going to be another volume of the ost?

If I am informed correctly then the other OST volumes will be released with the other respecite Blu Ray volumes, which, sadly, will probably take quite a long time.

i ask this mainly because the song used here wasn't on the one that was released

Indeed. Best piece in the soundtrack of a series with an awesome soundtrack.

is it bad that i didn't even watch this but i'm freaking out over the music anyway

You are allowed to freak out over awesome music, though I see little reason why you would not want to watch the anime, since, you know, it is, like, pretty good, and stuff, unless, of course, you had, like, way too little time or just aren't interested in watching anything currently.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

You are allowed to freak out over awesome music, though I see little reason why you would not want to watch the anime, since, you know, it is, like, pretty good, and stuff, unless, of course, you had, like, way too little time or just aren't interested in watching anything currently.

In other words, watch it or be Mami'd.  :moogy:

Spoiler:

Mogumogumogumogumogu

[Letty Whiterock]

Ahahaha your avatar is making me giggle, Anathe. I think you're pretty consistent in making me love every time you post.

[lumber_of_the_beast]

Finally gotten around to actually watching the anime :V

Thoughts, in no particular order:

omg so pretty

Sayaka is energetic. Seriously, she needs to lay off the caffeine.

Mami-san is so cool~

I wonder if it's bad that I'm starting to like Mamilotte...?

that school is fucked up

Man, I can't wait to make my sister watch this

[Zengar Zombolt]

Manga

Spoiler:

Moemura

is maximum.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

I can't choose between Manga Moemura and Anime Moemura.

...

Can I have both?  :3

[CS]

Just wondering here. Overall, how much different is the manga from the anime? I mean those little little differences. I think I've heard somewhere before that the manga's a little... bloodier?

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Yes, and more depressing. Especially for Sayaka.   

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

I saw a scanlation which added the caption SO THEN HOMURA BECAME THE COOLEST CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE SERIES to the end of chapter 10.

[noodles]

well the show was basically ABOUT Homura by the end...

I mean as far as I can tell, the character Madoka was an extended symbol of hope and idealism, and by the time it got to Homu, the running theme of the show was those things against hopeless reality

[Letty Whiterock]

well the show was basically ABOUT Homura by the end...

I mean as far as I can tell, the character Madoka was an extended symbol of hope and idealism, and by the time it got to Homu, the running theme of the show was those things against hopeless reality

Homura was always the main character. Look at the lyrics to the OP. They're about Homura. In fact, the ED gives away just as much as the OP. It's amazing.

[noodles]

Yeah, the way they put the opening song at the end of Homura's backstory episode was what put everything into focus for me

[Quad City QBs]

Just wondering here. Overall, how much different is the manga from the anime? I mean those little little differences. I think I've heard somewhere before that the manga's a little... bloodier?

That much is true, plus Kyubey actually emotes, and the girls are a bit taller/splindier just as a result of the hanokage's style.

But I think the major difference is that the pacing feels really rushed. Which isn't to fault the artist--she does what she can with 43 pages to cover a full episode's worth of content, and the art is certainly more consistent than the anime--but it's not something I would read on its own merits.

[Berzul]

Yea... it got me too..

It's very happy indeed! I did noticed it, and the only clue can the actually the intro...

But honestly... I guess it meet my expectations as a anime, since it is just girls..and girls.... With only one mature character besides all of them? Well if it's sells I can't bother with details, but there is much to except from just showing content as it is. There is very little of humans in this picture, all of the characters have their role pretty much scripted to the plot. It just seem like watching someone thinking about it in the most single line possible...

[Drake]

You watched it after reading all about it. Of course things are going to feel scripted, that's your own fault.

[noodles]

why mumi

[Berzul]

You watched it after reading all about it. Of course things are going to feel scripted, that's your own fault.

Nope... I watched it from like... 3,4 EP, not knowing too much about the plot itself... you know all that jazz about Fate is really heavy there...

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

I found a certain picture that I had been looking for a while.

It is now my avatar.  :3

[noodles]

blazblue is a cool game i like to play as coobie

[Yakitori]

I never noticed this

Those are really subtle differences in the openings.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

I never noticed this

Those are really subtle differences in the openings.

 

Mind = Blown

Brb, scraping the brains from the wall.

[Drake]

There was an earlier comparison that compared every episode, but it really just came down to these four, probably. I noticed the dumb orange streak being gone right from episode 6.

I just find it funny because a guy I know got the BD and complained about all the changes they made in the blu-ray even though said places have changed constantly throughout the series.

[Ghaleon]

I just watched this anime, making it the 3rd. It was enjoyable, but I think it would have benefited from being longer. The story is tear-jerk material but...The lack of screen time given the characters kinda dulls that. I mean, it's hard to be touched and feel bonded to each of the characters when you've only known them for less than 10 episodes or whatever you know? I understand budget and whatnot is the main cause of this moreso than creator choice, but still. It's kinda sad how shows like this have so few episodes, while Naruto or whatever have 50 billion.

What exactly makes anime have many episodes anyway? I can't imagine the ones with hundreds of episodes were THAT much more significantly popular or successful when they were brand new.

AS for the show itself, the ending was indeed good. I'm not getting a "bittersweet" vibe though just.. sweet. I didn't get the impression Madoka was lying when she was assuring Horuma that her fate was actually good, plus it's not like they EVER lived, or expected to live on earth forever. I do think though that again, due to the lack of screen time, each girls' fall into despair seemed a bit forced/rushed. Sukuya's (was that her name? I suck with names, I forget already) in particular seemed kinda weak to me. She despairs not when she discovers she's basically a lich (though still human-enough that ordinary people can't tell she's one), but that her friend has the hots for her love? WTF can't she profess her love to him first? Because she has to wear a ring all the time? Really!? As I said, it's not like people can't tell she's not an ordinary human, and there was absolutely no indication that the girls suddenly lacked any sort of sensations or functions that an ordinary human body has. I think that's overanalyzing it a bit, I really didn't think less of the show for things like that so much, I'm just using it as an example of how more screentime could have benefitted it more than just "more is better". There is really a rather NOTICEABLE chunk of stuff missing due to such a small amount of screentime.

[hyorinryu]

I just watched this anime, making it the 3rd. It was enjoyable, but I think it would have benefited from being longer. The story is tear-jerk material but...The lack of screen time given the characters kinda dulls that. I mean, it's hard to be touched and feel bonded to each of the characters when you've only known them for less than 10 episodes or whatever you know? I understand budget and whatnot is the main cause of this moreso than creator choice, but still. It's kinda sad how shows like this have so few episodes, while Naruto or whatever have 50 billion.

What exactly makes anime have many episodes anyway? I can't imagine the ones with hundreds of episodes were THAT much more significantly popular or successful when they were brand new.

AS for the show itself, the ending was indeed good. I'm not getting a "bittersweet" vibe though just.. sweet. I didn't get the impression Madoka was lying when she was assuring Horuma that her fate was actually good, plus it's not like they EVER lived, or expected to live on earth forever. I do think though that again, due to the lack of screen time, each girls' fall into despair seemed a bit forced/rushed. Sukuya's (was that her name? I suck with names, I forget already) in particular seemed kinda weak to me. She despairs not when she discovers she's basically a lich (though still human-enough that ordinary people can't tell she's one), but that her friend has the hots for her love? WTF can't she profess her love to him first? Because she has to wear a ring all the time? Really!? As I said, it's not like people can't tell she's not an ordinary human, and there was absolutely no indication that the girls suddenly lacked any sort of sensations or functions that an ordinary human body has. I think that's overanalyzing it a bit, I really didn't think less of the show for things like that so much, I'm just using it as an example of how more screentime could have benefitted it more than just "more is better". There is really a rather NOTICEABLE chunk of stuff missing due to such a small amount of screentime.

Pretty sure it's best for the series to short for the sake of the budget. If the show was longer like Naruto, Bleach, etc. Then they would have to divide their budget over all thhose episodes, leading to those QUALITY moments we all know and love. I feel like those moments would really hurt the show.

And yeah, that bugged me too, though, I guess it is a little believable. I was still hoping someone would slap some sense in to her though. Also, why did Kyoko decide to kill herself and leave Homura to deal with Walpurugis by herself, that confused me.

Oh, and one more thing. The power of a magical girl is proportional to how much they matter, which was why Madoka became so powerful, right? Shouldn't Homura have grown in power too, since she was the reason all this was happening?

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Pretty sure it's best for the series to short for the sake of the budget. If the show was longer like Naruto, Bleach, etc. Then they would have to divide their budget over all thhose episodes, leading to those QUALITY moments we all know and love. I feel like those moments would really hurt the show.

And yeah, that bugged me too, though, I guess it is a little believable. I was still hoping someone would slap some sense in to her though. Also, why did Kyoko decide to kill herself and leave Homura to deal with Walpurugis by herself, that confused me.

Oh, and one more thing. The power of a magical girl is proportional to how much they matter, which was why Madoka became so powerful, right? Shouldn't Homura have grown in power too, since she was the reason all this was happening?

Sayaka basically fell into despair because she has a very black and white, pure conception on love. Once she found out what she had turned into, she lost the courage to face her loved out ever again because she saw herself as a monster.
Kyouko killed herself when defeating Oktavia von Sekendorf because she didn't want Sayaka to die alone. That's how awesome a friend she was.
I'm not so sure about HomuHomu, though. Some people think that those time reversals indeed gave her power, and that Walpurgis Nacht herself is actually Homura from a different timeline where she falls into despair because she realizes that all her effort was in vain and she can't save Madoka from her fate. Really, when it comes to Homura and the Walpurgis, there's a lot left to explain.

[Ghaleon]

Pretty sure it's best for the series to short for the sake of the budget. If the show was longer like Naruto, Bleach, etc. Then they would have to divide their budget over all thhose episodes, leading to those QUALITY moments we all know and love. I feel like those moments would really hurt the show.

And yeah, that bugged me too, though, I guess it is a little believable. I was still hoping someone would slap some sense in to her though. Also, why did Kyoko decide to kill herself and leave Homura to deal with Walpurugis by herself, that confused me.

Oh, and one more thing. The power of a magical girl is proportional to how much they matter, which was why Madoka became so powerful, right? Shouldn't Homura have grown in power too, since she was the reason all this was happening?

Yeah, I'm not saying it should have been AS long as Naruto, just...longer. I think picture/animation quality and whatnot isn't as important as emotional stringpulling and whatnot. I mean, when Mami dies, I felt like I was supposed to feel really sad or do a double take or something, but, in reality, how long did I really know her for? 20 minutes? It just doesn't have the same impact like that.

Kyouko killed herself when defeating Oktavia von Sekendorf because she didn't want Sayaka to die alone. That's how awesome a friend she was.

Yeahh, that too was hard to believe due to lack of screentime. I don't really want to go into details because then it looks like I'm picking at the show and that's not my intention. All my beefs are solely caused by lack of length IMO.

Edit: Oh yeah. But about the kyuubee=Evil debate. If simply being devoid of emotions or empathy equates to evil...then isn't the cattle comparison fair game? If you think animals do have emotions and/or feelings, then would not using them as we do be an equivalent? And if you think they are incapable of feeling or such thoughts, wouldn't they, by definition, be evil too? I've never heard anybody really think of animals in general as evil.

[Iryan]

Also as for why Sayaka spiraled down into despair, from what I see it is very much implied that the link between your mental condition and the clarity of your soul gem goes both ways. Due to her ideals, she continued to fight familiars without getting any grief seeds, darkening her soul gem and in turn filling her heart with anger, mistrust and jealousy.

[Ghaleon]

Also as for why Sayaka spiraled down into despair, from what I see it is very much implied that the link between your mental condition and the clarity of your soul gem goes both ways. Due to her ideals, she continued to fight familiars without getting any grief seeds, darkening her soul gem and in turn filling her heart with anger, mistrust and jealousy.

That's a reasonable explanation, though she refused to use that one, and it definitely seemed to be out of self-loathing or pity rather than an actual desire to make up for anything. Which is still a character flaw rather than a magical girl technicality thing, or else all of them would fall into the same fate if they ever needed em grief seeds (and they all must at some point...soo). It just steams me to see characters surrounded by super loyal lovable friends, and to callously ignore their company for self pity, grrr.