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Cadmas:
Na rather than using a bunch of basic heroes, the heroes are more in depth and by getting items the play changes. It's not bad and can be fun or frustrating depending on how you
view it. Just in my experience Battle-net players are way elitist and egotistical.
Ghaleon:
Enjoying games is like enjoying art. Different people have different tastes. I truly was interested in what the appeal is for Dota for those that enjoy it. I don't see how that's bad form.

I also like how someone who has never seen me play, or complain about imbalance in the game (notice how I didn't personally say it was imbalanced) tells me to suck less. I know I'm not the best dota player out there, I'd probably get pwnt into oblivion by everyone in a professional league tournament. But it's still a judgemental thing to say. And for the record, I don't play tower defense games... or any games on warcraft 3 unless a buncha buddies are playing (rarely)it and I join in for the fun.

As for learning the game by picking a few heroes and excelling at them. The learning curve is still very high for new people even if you do that, because you are completely unaware of what your ENEMIES are capable of doing. Maybe you don't know pudge can yoink you thru the trees into an ambush. Maybe you don't know that if the enemy has that mecho-goblin, that you should be aware that there are invisible land mines. Maybe you don't know wandering thru the woods alone is a very bad idea if one of your enemies is that omnislash guy. You basically have to memorize every single hero in order to not get yourself killed and look like an idiot when someone else is that hero against you.

Generally a high learning curve is something that doesn't bug me so much normally, but combined with a terrible community. It really does make it nasty (note I've already consider myself past learning past community accepting standards).
trancehime:

--- Quote from: Stuffman on June 25, 2009, 05:08:01 PM ---Well anyway I must admit I don't really see the appeal of the game. I haven't played it, but by my understanding you only control one hero...doesn't that make the game very shallow compared to actual WC3, where you control multiple heroes plus a whole army while managing a base?

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Several heroes would like to say hi to you:

Anyone who relies on Necronomicon in their strategy
Rexxar
Enigma
Anyone who relies on Manta Style in their strategy
Slithice
Nessaj
Chen, definitely this guy
Aiushtha
Anyone who uses Helm of Dominator early-game


--- Quote from: Ghaleon on June 25, 2009, 08:02:05 PM ---I also like how someone who has never seen me play, or complain about imbalance in the game (notice how I didn't personally say it was imbalanced) tells me to suck less. I know I'm not the best dota player out there, I'd probably get pwnt into oblivion by everyone in a professional league tournament. But it's still a judgemental thing to say. And for the record, I don't play tower defense games... or any games on warcraft 3 unless a buncha buddies are playing (rarely)it and I join in for the fun.

As for learning the game by picking a few heroes and excelling at them. The learning curve is still very high for new people even if you do that, because you are completely unaware of what your ENEMIES are capable of doing. Maybe you don't know pudge can yoink you thru the trees into an ambush. Maybe you don't know that if the enemy has that mecho-goblin, that you should be aware that there are invisible land mines. Maybe you don't know wandering thru the woods alone is a very bad idea if one of your enemies is that omnislash guy. You basically have to memorize every single hero in order to not get yourself killed and look like an idiot when someone else is that hero against you.

Generally a high learning curve is something that doesn't bug me so much normally, but combined with a terrible community. It really does make it nasty (note I've already consider myself past learning past community accepting standards).
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STOP WHINING ABOUT IMBALANCE IF YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY DEAR LORD

I'll give you license for complaining about an insane learning curve if you are dissuaded from playing it but for fuck's sake, if you don't play the game, you have no fucking place to say that the game itself is imbalanced >_>;; And memorizing every single hero is easier than it sounds. Anyone worth their salt knows you don't ever engage Yurnero on his own, that you  use Sentry Wards to see every single damn mine the Techies lay down, etc. Again, don't complain about these aspects of the game if you don't even play it.
Ghaleon:

--- Quote from: BougaPrincess on June 25, 2009, 11:42:15 PM ---STOP WHINING ABOUT IMBALANCE IF YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY DEAR LORD

I'll give you license for complaining about an insane learning curve if you are dissuaded from playing it but for fuck's sake, if you don't play the game, you have no fucking place to say that the game itself is imbalanced >_>;; And memorizing every single hero is easier than it sounds. Anyone worth their salt knows you don't ever engage Yurnero on his own, that you  use Sentry Wards to see every single damn mine the Techies lay down, etc. Again, don't complain about these aspects of the game if you don't even play it.

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holy shit. learn to read. I DID NOT SAY IT IS IMBALANCED. *facepalm*.
trancehime:

--- Quote from: Ghaleon on June 26, 2009, 12:02:55 AM ---holy shit. learn to read. I DID NOT SAY IT IS IMBALANCED. *facepalm*.

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oh, shit. I fail at reading.

Sorry, I tend to be like that when there are DotA haters.

I've been scouring the internet for a not-so-assholish DotA community and the first thread I read is a thread BASHING it. So naturally I am royally pissed off.

My point still fucking stands though and isn't really aimed at anyone in particular
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