Author Topic: Darker than Black Mafia (Game Over Scum win)  (Read 46755 times)

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #690 on: April 14, 2011, 12:48:32 PM »
I mean, honestly.
What kind of fucking excuse is:
"I'm town because I lurked and didn't hammer someone at the first opportunity I got."

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #691 on: April 14, 2011, 01:55:12 PM »
Early morning post so don't expect much.

First off, delaying a hammer in this game is bad. It's been confirmed by the mod we can talk during twilight. BY THE MOD. If someone has already reached the point where he can be hammered and it doesn't look like a counter wagon will pop up, just lynch the damn person already. There's almost no difference between hammering 10 minutes before the deadline or hammering 2 minutes after the deadline.

Anyways, what?
Quote from: Helepolis
PX roleclaim he is town November 11 is hilarious. It was too obvious Bard and Conq were town but he still blocks Bardiche. If you want to see somebody's head rolling on the floor Dormio, start doing something instead of hunting in anger.
If Bard was obvious town, then why the hell would people call him scummy, and why would he gather votes on him? Other than that, it was early in the morning so I wasn't thinking that clearly and I was thinking he was scum.

Also @661
Why you put my name there? Why has nobody bothered to correct that? It looks to me quite hard to confuse me for HW.

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Why don't you people first try to explain how 2 townies died. Are there 2 scums out there with killing abilities? Or did Bardiche got killed because he was frozen? The wiki does not clarify whether the freezing of human body is lethal. Which makes it harder for me to find out.
Uhh... what? This has got to be a mistake, right? Stop role speculating please.

Cutting post, out of time. >_<

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #692 on: April 14, 2011, 02:09:34 PM »
You really do not get it do you, Helepolis?
I AM NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT VOTE COUNT 7.
I AM TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU ALMOST COST US OUR LYNCH AT THE END OF DAY TWO.
END. OF. DAY. 2.
2. TWO. II. 二. END. OF.
CAN YOU READ?
And that is why I keep repeating probably for the N-th time: It wouldn't have cost us a lynch because I was going to hammer no matter what. Either on Schezo or on Serela. As the Schezo-wagon didn't get off the ground for some reason (well the reason was obvious ^.^ ). I am glad Conqueror around.

I don't even understand how you've managed to turn yourself from derptown to obvscum this quickly and efficiently, but you did it.
Congratulations.
I like how you speak for everybody (even for me) in this game. I also like how you create scenarios and answer them for yourself.

I answered every question you gave, You still refuse to answer mine:
- How does me supporting Bardiche / Conqueror make me a scum
- How does intentionally keeping last vote while notifying I am still around me a scum?
- How your vendetta with nothing else than post spam, make me a scum.

At least Miss UncertainKitten asked me to come up with a case and questioned me in a logical way.

My case is still on Schezo and suspecting HW just as much with his switch abilities. Conqueror's speculation on how Shadoweh and Serp both died seems plausable somehow. Especially now we know a switching ability exists but cannot confirm 100% because only the Mods and the HW know exactly how it works.

Also Bardiche's explanation on Schezo is also somehow being more and more realistic in my eyes.

I might have intentionally vote-lurked D2. I don't see how that makes me omgyouobvious scum. Especially not in comparison do Schezo who said not much. Even the saying "Less is more" isn't applicable for his posts. Non-existent.


Cut by PX

Hold on a minute,

The problem was I couldn't even hammer, even if you claim it is obvious. HW swapped you out and then you place your vote on Bardiche? If you could still move after the swap, why do you suddenly mutate your vote and freeze Bardiche? Sense, makes 0 to me.

About the early hammering. I know about the Twilight talking is allowed. That wasn't the problem.

Quote from: PX
Also @661
Why you put my name there? Why has nobody bothered to correct that? It looks to me quite hard to confuse me for HW.
orz , wrong quote name. That is what you get for manual quoting. That suppose to be HW yea.


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Uhh... what? This has got to be a mistake, right? Stop role speculating please.
I am not asking you what it is, I am asking you how it become.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #693 on: April 14, 2011, 03:07:17 PM »
Ok let me get this straight.  You case on me is because I am lurking when I at least made cases yesterday and put a vote down along with some opinions?  You can't just say "I agree with Bard" because yeah that's easy. Do you agree with all of his posts?  I don't know. Can you at least place a whole case in your own words down so I can tell what you are voting me for? 
That you, Helepolis, have the audacity to vote me for lurking when you yourself were active lurking for the majority of yesterday, with hardly any opinions and no cases as far as I could tell just screams hipocracy. Why shouldn't I vote you right now for "lurking"?  Again there are others lurking just as much if not more than me, like Hourai and Zak.

And I'm pretty sure that the point people are getting pissy about isn't that you hammered 2 minutes as opposed to 10 minutes, it's that you hammered 3 minutes LATE and we are just lucky Pesco allowed it to count when he easily could have gone, "Nope sorry, you got a no lynch."

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #694 on: April 14, 2011, 04:59:04 PM »
Holy shit when did I get IP!? I totes didn't notice!

@Hele 672: Going to let Caedo answer the rest since you asked him but...uh...first you're proposing scum started a wagon on their own guy out of more or less nowhere. And then you're saying someone *else* is scum and not voting them? youlostme.jpg.

And Caedo's answer is about what I'd have said.

@Caedo 675: No. Play the game, not the roles. At BEST play how the roles are used. I'm willing to accept PX scum for USING such a power in such a scummy way. I'm not willing to accept PX scum just because he IS a voteblocker. This is how we lost Zomble mafier.

@Hele 676: To prevent a quickhammer. We still had time at that point, IIRC. Also, that vote count is further evidence that PX and Schezo probably aren't scum. Swing vote tell. PX swung it towards scum. This goes to Caedo as well, re: PX.

Hmm...I missed HW doing that. I don't like it.

@Caedo 679: Rather than rage at Hele, look at the resources he provided. His conclusions may be terrible, but I completely missed those key points.

@Quoted Hele 686: Responding to your quote.
To sum up:
-You were three minutes late. It wasn't going to happen.
-There were 24 hours left at votecount 7. If you had hammered then the ONLY reason suspicion would be defrayed is because you killed a scum. The situations are not the same at all. Hammering with 24 hours left is a LOT different than hammering with -3 minutes left. Particularly the almost not hammering
-[[Citation needed]]
-Possible. Then at what point did he become a sacrifice. It's just plain bad scum play to *start* a wagon on your buddy. Possible, yes, but improbable.

Finally, case on Schezo?

@Hele 692: You were three. minutes. Late. The hammer should not have gone through. You were banking on it not going through and saying you tried. So, please die.

Do you want me to answer those questions as well? I'll save them for Dormio unless requested.
All right, so your piggybacking Bard's case. It's pretty, and something to think about, but I don't think Schezo is QUITE stupid enough to wagon his scumbuddy out of nowhere. If he would, please feel free to correct me, everyone.








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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #695 on: April 14, 2011, 07:04:31 PM »
Voting
Helepolis(3): Dormio, UncertainKitten, Hourai (L-2)
Schezo (1): Helepolis

Not Voting
Schezo, Zakeri, PX, huh what

8 alive 5 votes to lynch
Under 50 hours remain

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #696 on: April 14, 2011, 08:34:56 PM »
Claim time, since there seems to be a fair amount of curiosity going on about my rolepowers: I'm Jean, and I've never watched Darker than Black so I have no idea who that is, but a quick google search told me that I'm unimportant. Okay. Anyway, I can switch the votes of two players around at any time with the command ##Switch, with the stipulation being that my next post must be arranged into a block with a minimum of at least 25 unique words. If you want an example of this, look under my D2 wall, because it's right in front of you. Other than that, my role is pretty uninteresting, as the only real upsides to it that I've seen are that I can break ties and force lurkers into voting. I could also in theory force town to lynch whoever I want for the rest of the game by voting, switching with another player, changing my vote and then repeating, but that would make the game a crapshoot and probably isn't worth it, so I have no intent of doing so.

... Okay, so yeah. There's no way Hele is surviving the day, not much to say about him that has not yet already been covered. While I do understand the case on him and would be surprised if anybody was willing to give him a pass after the way late D2 turned out, what does irritate me is the possibility of people using him as a way to avoid talking about anything other than the obvious case. Hourai, Schezo and UK in particular both need to speak up about players they think are scum who aren't Helepolis. Still, I'm probably going to switch to Hele by the end of the day since he's pretty much just Serela's obvbuddy right now. But as is, I'd rather focus on some other players, such as...


##Vote PX

rdj's player slot has an interesting history with scum!Serela on D2. While he does start up the day with a vote on Serela, the vote simply seems like a pressure vote to convince Serela to answer UK's question, which is something that could easily be thrown away. And indeed, his weak vote on Serela is thrown away at the first chance he gets, as in when a Schezo case becomes a likely possibility. Now, it is true that we do not have Schezo's flip yet, but I find it incredibly likely that Schezo was a townie being pushed as the counterwagon to Serela's lynch, since he was the other possible lurker lynch on D2. As a result, I do not like rdj's vote on Schezo, for it looks like a wagon hop attempting to drive the pressure away from his buddy. It did, after all, shift the wagons from 2 Schezo, 2 Serela to 3 Schezo, 1 Serela when people such as Dormio and UK were beginning to contemplate going after the latter.

Now, let's skip a bit later into the day. rdj has been replaced, and Serela is close to being a lost cause for scum - even though the wagons are tied, Dormio's vote is still sitting on Zakeri, and Dormio has already stated that he dislikes Serela and thinks Schezo has begun to look better. It is fairly evident that he would have chosen to break the tie in a manner that would have lynched Serela at the end of the day, and the likelihood of this must have been rather intimidating for scum. PX's first action as a replacement is to put Serela to L-1 with a rather weak case, which comes off entirely as something you'd see from a scum who has just decided to give up their buddy. Not only was rdj's poor D1 something that scum would have wanted to salvage through townie cred (ie, being on a wagon), but the laziness involved makes the possibility of a forced case intended as a bus seem a lot more likely. Alongside this, PX's vote on Serela also made self-hammering a possible option for PX's hypothetical buddy, which would have allowed scum to eliminate their nightkill from the discussion as soon as possible while also preventing myself from getting a vote out in the D2 discussion.

A few hours later, Dormio shifts his vote and the possibility of Bardiche being a counterwagon comes along, PX is quick to move off of scum!Serela and on to Bard, even though if he really did think Bardiche was scum he could have easily shifted his vote before Dormio's vote arrived, and PX's vote-shifting post does not imply that Bardiche's then-recent post was what caused Bardiche to become a better lynch than Serela in PX's eyes. Also of note is PX sealing off Bardiche's vote, which would have suddenly made Serela much more difficult to lynch at the time. Given that Bardiche has flipped town, this is quite a major issue in PX's record. Even though rdj and PX had been voting scum!Serela a lot during D2, I do not believe that their desire really was to see Serela lynched, considering how easily they were swayed to change their vote off of him at times.

tl;dr rdpx are scum who couldn't make up their mind on whether or not Serela was worth bussing, so they clung on to the possibility of Serela escaping as long as possible and both attempted to jump to another possible townie wagon before giving it up.

Amusingly enough, rdj was also responsible for the vote that turned capt. h into a potential wagon on D1, which could have been scum scouting for easy lynch targets.


Something else I found notable about D2 is UK's choice of pursuing lurker!Yono over lurkscum!Serela at first when Yono was the easier target, but completely dropping it when somebody less likely to get lynched over newbie play replaced in. I suppose this means more to me since I know my own (and by extent, Yono's) alignment, and I certainly wouldn't interesting in lynching her over people like PX and Hele, but it's still rather intriguing.

I'll take another look into Dormio and Hourai some time in the future, but I don't think they're very interesting at this point compared to the other suspects. This post is large enough as is, anyway. In hindsight, Dormio actually seems a bit more like a townie with tunnel vision on Zakeri, though he definitely needs to chill out.

I'm not sure if I explained my PX case particularly well, so feel free to nudge me about it if there are questions. I think the tl;dr version sums up what I find scummy about him in an adequate manner, though.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #697 on: April 14, 2011, 08:36:34 PM »
"and I certainly wouldn't interesting in lynching her over people like PX and Hele, but it's still rather intriguing." should read "and I certainly wouldn't be interested in lynching her over people like PX and Hele, but it's still rather intriguing."

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #698 on: April 14, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »
Hmmm, I just realized that Hele and PX being the scumteam does not particularly flow well with my theory, given that Hele could have broken the tie in a manner that allowed Serela to escape from a lynch at any time, which makes my theory about PX's vote on Serela less valid.

... I still think both are worth pursuing, though. Doubly so if one of the two end up flipping town. Still, I could think up a number of reasons why scum!PX's vote on Serela would have happened regardless, such as him simply being scum panicing after realizing he was so close to losing his buddy, or Hele being generally unresponsive since Hele's actions on D2 were awkward in general.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #699 on: April 14, 2011, 08:49:43 PM »
Hmm...but what about PX's swing vote, HW? And yeah, I already admitted about half my Yono vote was pure unadulterated frustration.

If I have to pick another scum...PoE says Zak. I'm unwilling to believe Schezo scum would cross bus with Serela scum. It seems too stupid when they both were only under fire for being lurkers. Dormio has been posting more or less along the same lines I've been thinking today. And I don't recall anything terrible from him. Hmm...though, I'm not exactly sure where HH stands, and I'd appreciate something from him elucidating this. So MAYBE HH scum. HW, you bleed town, really, out of a sea of mediocrity. You're thinking and posting. It more or less erases ANY issues I had with Yono.

Anyway, Zak more or less didn't contribute a lot D2, after people started saying he was town again. This kind of bothers me a lot. Then again, it feels weird that he'd purposely court the lynch D1 as scum...



Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #700 on: April 14, 2011, 09:10:11 PM »
I do realize that PX's vote swung the wagons, but I believe it does not matter very much considering how easily he withdrew it as soon as Bard looked like a possible second counterwagon (if PX was scum, he couldn't jump back on the Schezo wagon without looking really iffy), which compliments my theory that scum (or at least rdj's player slot) were waffling over whether or not they should bus Serela. It should be noted that even though Serela would have been the leading wagon at that point, it was entirely possible for them to be tied up again if Helepolis had voted Bardiche, which would have seemed to be rather likely at the time. This is one of the things I find so damning about PX: it's as if he wanted to abuse the swinging of wagons to gain townie cred and make up for rdj's play, but gave up on this as soon as he had a player who wasn't Serela on which he could park his vote to, making his Serela vote much less believable.

I probably haven't been paying enough proper attention to Zakeri due to my D2 beliefs that the later jumps (Dormio and Bard) on his wagon looked iffy, but now that Bard has flipped town and Dormio is looking decent-ish in my eyes, Zak is a lot more worth looking into to me. I could possibly see him as scum due to his support of the Schezo wagon, and I would like to know how Serela's flip has affected his opinions on that.

Also, I'm surprised nobody has asked this yet, soooo: Helepolis, can you clarify your vote on Schezo, and why it stands after the way D2 turned out? I honestly can't understand why Schezo would be worth chasing today after Serela's flip, unless you believe that scum would set up scum/scum wagons on D2 for whatever reason (in which case I would like to hear why you believe that).

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #701 on: April 14, 2011, 09:15:14 PM »
I will read all of this tomorrow as my mother's birthday is more important than this and I got more worries on my head. Not to mention guests just left and am tired so going to bed.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #702 on: April 14, 2011, 09:24:06 PM »
Hmm...you might have a point, HW. Can you link me the stuff surrounding PX's vote switchans? And what you think stands out?


Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #703 on: April 14, 2011, 09:40:13 PM »
Slight IIoA warning since I already analyzed this stuff in previous posts anyway.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #704 on: April 14, 2011, 09:42:49 PM »
Okay.
I have had some sleep.
And now have to blue to mellow me out.
But Helepolis.
Why must you do everything in your power to anger me?
And that is why I keep repeating probably for the N-th time: It wouldn't have cost us a lynch because I was going to hammer no matter what.
Except for the part where you didn't, hammered late, then got the lynch through sheer luck.

- How your vendetta with nothing else than post spam, make me a scum.
I am making perfectly valid points.
Was I angry when I was writing them? Yes.
Does that make them any less valid? No.
I like how you are brushing aside every single argument I make against you.
But whatever, I am going to work off the assumption that you are going to be lynched today.
Making another post.

Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
It begins, again.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #705 on: April 14, 2011, 09:59:01 PM »
Hmm...
That's...rather convincing, HW. Though it's hard to reconcile Hele scum with PX scum :S...though Zak scum would fit in neatly with PX, I think...
Ughhh...don't know what to do!

For...the time being I lean Hele scum over PX, but my faith in PX town is heavily shaken. I think you have a point about us gaining if either is lynched.


Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #706 on: April 14, 2011, 10:30:09 PM »
UK, were you informed by the moderator when Bard turned you into a bomb? I've been thinking about something and it has made me rather curious.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #707 on: April 14, 2011, 10:42:08 PM »
I was not, actually.


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #708 on: April 14, 2011, 10:44:40 PM »
Words are hard.

Zakeri is constantly lurking. (He should have been prodded again)
All that inactivity doesn't really give me much to go off.
His last notable post was this one where he attacks lurkers.

PX I don't have anything to add on him right now.
I have been staring at this post for far too long.

Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Far, far too long.
I think I'm going to go find a source of caffeine.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #709 on: April 14, 2011, 10:47:32 PM »
Ah.

In that case, what I was thinking about can't really be considered (not going to bother elaborating barring a request because it doesn't matter anymore and was set-up speculation anyway), so nevermind.

Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #710 on: April 14, 2011, 11:34:19 PM »
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I'm not exactly sure where HH stands, and I'd appreciate something from him elucidating this

Sorry if I wasn't clear before.

Helepolis-
Scum, I want this to happen today.

(convienient 150x150)

HW- Town. Any conspiracy theories I had on Yono are quelled. Add in how Neo voted Yono for being bad ED2, and I find townieness.

Zak- Hardcore lurker. I really don't know what to make of him until he starts existing once more and follows up on his questions and hunts. I would lean more slightly towards lurkscum.

Schezo- I wanna lean town. He made a darn good case on Neo earlier in the day and got on him and stayed before it was apparent he would become a wagon.

PX- No idea what to make of him. HW brings up a really good indepth argument on him and rdj. I would like it if PX could actually explain why he froze Bard or what he wanted to accomplish by doing so. Not yet willing to see him lynched over Hele until he comes back and starts playing. Dodges why he actually froze Bard and what he wanted to accomplish by it. Tell us please?

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #711 on: April 14, 2011, 11:39:11 PM »
Uh...conspicuous lack of thoughts on Dormio and I there.


Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #712 on: April 15, 2011, 12:04:53 AM »
Everyone in the game? Ok then.

Dormio-
My main complaint before on him was his lack of conviction and willingness to switch between either wagon, which isn't inherently scummy, but made me uneasy. With his recent Hele bloodlust, I like his conviction, so neutral for the time being.

UK-
Townie. Makes valid cases, shows effort and conviction in votes. Pretty much it. No real complaints.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #713 on: April 15, 2011, 12:06:09 AM »
Well, I didn't really need everyone in the game, you just had named 5/7 people (that you would talk about), so it seemed odd you didn't bring up the other two. Still, thank you for that.


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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #714 on: April 15, 2011, 02:18:59 AM »
Oh my... Drama and it's time for bed I'll make my stuff in the morning.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #715 on: April 15, 2011, 02:48:00 AM »
Voting
Helepolis(3): Dormio, UncertainKitten, Hourai (L-2)
Schezo (1): Helepolis
PX(1): huh what

Not Voting
Schezo, Zakeri, PX

8 alive 5 votes to lynch
~42 hours remain
My favorite mythical creature? The honest politician.
A life cool.. where can I download one of those?
Hurray for apathy!

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #716 on: April 15, 2011, 05:18:25 AM »
So, it's been ~9 hours since I posted my initial case.

I think PX owes me a proper defense of himself.

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #717 on: April 15, 2011, 09:20:37 AM »
I'm tired and everything looks blurry again.
This is not good.
Oh well.
Anyway.

Is there even anything to say to Zakeri other than "exist please"?

PX's dynamic entry where he leaped in, announced that D1 would take too much effort to read, then jumped onto the NeoSerela wagon with very little reasoning is wonderful, isn't it?
Also, is it just me or are all of his arguments on people with established wagons and then they're just repetitions of what everybody else has already said?

Also, so many avatar changes.
Isn't that supposed to be not allowed or something?

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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #718 on: April 15, 2011, 09:32:52 AM »
@ Schezo & Miss UncertainKitten regarding the 3min-late-hammer. I had 2 reasons:
- I really wanted to see some last minute reactions going on. Who would push me with what post, who would freak out the most, who would try to prevent me.
- I took a huge risk by delaying it then my ISP fucked out and I was stomping my desk for it.
 
Also, I am not a mod. I don't know what the mods thought during that moment. You can think this as an excuse or not. I'll respect your choices and thoughts. Not going to argue there.

@ Miss UncertainKitten #694, feel free to answer those questions yourself as well if you think you need to.

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Interestingly, if PX was expecting Helepolis to jump on Bardiche afterwards and tie the wagons up again, this could imply cooperation between the two (potential for PX/Hele buddying?). Also of note is the votefreeze on Bardiche slightly decreasing the chance of Serela having enough votes to be hammered on the deadline.
In the beginning of Day 2, I had voted for Bardiche out of frustration and slight anger. My Mistress does not approve that, she insisted me to reread all the posts carefully again and use my brain. When I read the posts it all connected for me. Bardiche was not scum and here is how I fooled actually people, thinking I would perhaps vote on Bardiche when the wagon came critical.

Read #446 carefully then #447. Notice how I unvote and then make a post "Nah, he must be scum". I did this on purpose... just to give me a "valid" reason to start vote-camping until a different wagon than Bardiche started.

Why should I cooperate with somebody who is blocking Bardiche?! My intent was never to vote on Bardiche in the first play. I still don't get why I am being burned for being non-voter till last seconds. The only complaint being done by several people is the 3-min over time hammer. But see my first lines in response to Miss UK and Schezo.

@ Dormio #704, Anger you? Why should I anger you when I try to explain something? Because my words were bold and jerkish-sounding? I was just as unpleased as you were. I understood your rage, yet all I could do is sit and wait. About the "Luck", see again opening post. I cannot answer this, and you know I can't.

If you think I am so obvious scum, then

@ Miss UncertainKitten and Huh what 706 & #707, possible explanation also freeze blocks both vote and "movement" (touch) abilities.

Quote from: Huh what
Still, I'm probably going to switch to Hele by the end of the day since he's pretty much just Serela's obvbuddy right now
Should I make your lives easier with lynching me by simply voting for myself? It will put me on L-1 and given the twilight time, you people can discuss how I was miss-lynched, because that is the only way.



TL DR version;
I kind of understand the situation Bardiche was in #570.

The scum team's only "strong argument" vs me is the 3-minute-over-time-Neoserela-buddy case. There isn't any other strong case or argument against me I noticed. Huh what is the only one who came with a possible PX + Hele cooperation theory. Oh yea and there was Hanged Hourai who thinks I tried to protect Neoserela because I insisted him to start moving. I insisted him on starting to communicate and not vote-camp. Yet he gets away unquestioned for that.

What did the rest come up with? Exactly, nothing. 0, nada, null.

I am being burned on the reasons people do themselves, but because I am the obvious newbie, I get burned. Because it is easy.

- Helepolis, you are lurking. Start doing something you scum.
- Helepolis, you are making weak cases, start doing something you scum.
- Helepolis, you don't contribute anything useful. Start doing something you scum.
- Helepolis, you voted too late it was luck/fate/Tewi/Yukari/Eirin. You are scum.

If you really want to abuse my "newbie" status at least do it with a straight face and not with lousy and weak arguments and keep revolving around the same thing. Oh wait, this is Mafia. Logically such tactics will be used. I am fine with that, but what puzzles me is that the Townies do not consider it.

"My dear and sweet Lady Scarlet, if this Lynch will put me out of my miseries as you said, I will take it gladly. As I do not want to see another day within this town, not within this body I hate being in... I wish I could be immortal or scatter into bats like you my Lady. Please forgive this town for their sins and do not hold grudges."
 
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Re: Darker than Black Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #719 on: April 15, 2011, 10:13:25 AM »
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Helepolis(4): Dormio, UncertainKitten, Hourai, Helepolis (L-1)
PX(1): huh what

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Schezo, Zakeri, PX

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