JK9 Mafia - Game over like a dog with 2 legs

[reVelske]

Nnonono, wrong vote, come on PX wagon, there are free candies! Or eh, punch and pie!

Blurgh, I do not find the case against Rouk to be of any substance whatsoever, but seeing how everyone has him on their lynchable lists, this may very well be the only viable option to get any lynch at all. Oh well, so be it.

##vote: Roukanken

[reVelske]

* -n

[Doll.S CUBE]

I'll not be swayed by you offer of can-oooo~ Pie~

##Unvote

##Vote: PX

Nah, kidding

[reVelske]

* and after an ##unvote of course.

Ah heck let's just try that again.

##unvote

##vote: Roukan

[Bardiche]

I'll probably return before deadline. Current move on Roukanken seems premature unless you can't make it for deadline. Argue why we should lynch your top choice instead.

[FinnKaenbyou]

Well, in my situation there isn't much to do other than ##Unvote, ##Vote: ReV. Haven't paid much attention to him all game, can't say I have that much opinion on him either way other than that he's something of a jerk at times and seems to borrow a lot from other cases, but if it's a case of 'I know I'm Town, I don't know if he's Town, so I'd rather he died since a Neo lynch is never going to happen at this rate'.

I still find Neo's refusal to offer more than an explanation for an RVS vote he made about a week of RL time ago infuriating. I'm not sure why I'm taking flak for, and I quote, 'active lurking', when Neo got away scot free with disappearing and offering no words at all when things started getting rough.

Apologies if this is sort of half-hearted. I'll admit all the venom that's been passing around is not helping my enthusiasm in the slightest. -_-

[reVelske]

*shrugs* Understandable, seeing how I'm the second most wanted lynch at the moment. TBH, it matters little to me at this stage. I really do not believe you are scum, in which case it's gonna be LYLO tomorrow either way.

And I've haven't borrowed anything really :S

i'm still wanting a PX lynch though. Anyone? Come on folks, do what should've been done yesterday, have a little faith in me.

[PX]

Rou, your vote is not counted.

i'm still wanting a PX lynch though. Anyone? Come on folks, do wheat should've been done yesterday, have a little faith in me.

And honestly, I don't even remember my thing against him from Day One without looking at my post. All I know is that whatever the heck it was, there has been nothing yet that'd throw it out of the window. Yes, it's tunnel vision, at least I know when to put my foot down and push for a lynch when it's needed.

Also

Besides, he SHOULD have died, it's only fitting for us to help him meet the fate he was destined for.

Could have, should have, would have, didn't.  :dealwithit:

[Serela]

Just remembered about mafia before falling asleep an hour later then I should be. While I kind of wanted to simply go to sleep and  avoid posting with nothing but a votechange when I should and do have more stuff to be saying, I will choke a bitch if there's another no lynch, so here I am to

##Vote:Roukanke[Z]

sleeples time, totally gonna zzz through first class period tomorrow yay

[PX]

Okay, a lynch is better than none right now, so

##Unvote

Ready to hammer if it reaches towards the deadline. Still got 3 hours left.

[Pesco]

Vote count

Neo: Roukan. Bardiche
Roukan: Affinity, Doll, reVelske, NeoSerela
reVelske: FFMaster

Not voting: PX

8 alive, 5 votes to lynch.

Roukan is at L-1

2 hours and 35 minutes remain.

[FFMaster]

##Unvote
##Vote Roukan

It's going to be done anyway, why not now? I'll bring the case on reV the next day. Sigh.

[reVelske]

It's going to be done anyway, why not now? I'll bring the case on reV the next day. Sigh.

When some members still haven't had a chance to speak since early yesterday?

And why leave your case for "next day" when you CAN do it now? What happens if the vile villain that is me decides to murder you tonight to silence you?

Frigging hell with this game and people who thinks bloody backwards.

[PX]

Hammer, shut up

[reVelske]

Silence, you vile creature. Until GM actually performs the hammering announcement, talks should still very much be allowed, all voting actions are forbidden though.

Well come on, FFM, please amuse us with your "case" against me, whilst there is time.

[Pesco]

Vote count

Neo: Roukan. Bardiche
Roukan: Affinity, Doll, reVelske, NeoSerela, FFMaster

Not voting: PX

8 alive, 5 votes to lynch.

Nyan nyan nyaaa~~

Everyone raises a leg at the Pissing Wall. Yet  Roukan didn't.

How suspicious! Only a pussy would not raise a leg. Wait, pussies are cats!

Roukan - Toilet Cat - Lynched Day 2

24 hours for your night actions. If you don't send one, then you did nothing.

[Doll.S CUBE]

......Well, that was interesting....

[Pesco]

Doll the Jailer Dog slept in a bad place and got shredded overnight.

6 alive, 4 votes to lynch.

72 hours remain.

Day opening early for my convenience.

[reVelske]

Doll?

That's just... stupid.

Anyhow, guess I'm wrong about Roukan, the lack of motivation at the end of Day Two kinda had me sold. Oh well.

[Bardiche]

##Vote: NeoSerela

Why helo thar, Neo, let's get back to this song and dance until I get answers to my questions finally!

reVelske, your case if you'd please.

FFMaster, let's see that case of yours. You still avoided talking about anyone of consequence both D1 and D2, I'd like to see that change.

[reVelske]

My case? On what? I don't really have a case on anyone yet, will need to read through entire day one and two to study Roukan's choices of actions, understandably it's only 6 pages worth of nonsense, but that's still effort nonetheless.

Unfortunately, everything in this game seem to work completely backwards in terms of logic from my perspective, which I suppose is to be expected from a crowd I have no good judgment of characters on, I'll really have to rethink on everything before I try have a go at anyone again, not that it looks like I'll need to do much prodding anymore.

I still want PX dead though. Hm, might as well.

##vote: PX

[Affinity]

I don't like the way the Roukanken wagon was concluded yesterday at all.  Around half the final wagon didn't really have any reasons to commit themselves to the Rou wagon, and just hopped on for convenience, making scum just as likely to be on the latter parts of the wagon as not.  But from what I can glean, reVelske is probably town due to being the main counter wagon to Rou, and Serela gets points for the late swingvote onto Roukanken than on reVelske, which is quite fully consistent with his past long post.  That leaves Bardiche, FFMaster, and PX who I feel should be the main targets today.

The one most on my mind now is PX.  He makes a case against Roukanken here, which is more solid than most of his mafia career (but not by itself), but here he drops it completely for a trifle of nonsense and OMGUS.  It really seems like he wanted to pretend to bus Rou, saw a good alternative wagon, and threw his weight there, only returning with a commitment to hammer.  So, for dropping a case on Roukanken for a far weaker case, I think he should be lynched today.

##Vote: PX

By now, I know nothing of FFMaster, except that he started the reVelske wagon which should have never come to light and ignored the Roukanken wagon completely until hammering him at the end of the day.  This already puts him a close second to PX.

I'm also still annoyed at Bard trying to prove that his RVS play is superior at a time when a mafia has been lynched and when there is bandwagon analysis to be done. Of course, not voting Rou here at this point in the bandwagon in a wait for ineffectual questions despite original points against him is implicating, and makes his Neo chase look like an excuse for a vote for the entirety of the game.  But I would put him lower than the above two for a good range of opinions and general involvement in the game.

[Affinity]

EDIT: Skip that 'RVS' thing for Bardiche.  I realize it's about something different now.  But still, I'm wary of his chase of Neo for D1 and D2 which started with the RVS thing  instead of the others, which seems like a easy place to rest a vote.

[PX]

Uh... we just lost the Jailer. This pretty much means LyLo on Day 4. Whoever the tracker is, you better find out who the scum is. Anyways, I'll be rereading this and coming up things later.

[PX]

Really dislike reVelske. Basically, he's saying he has no case on anyone, might as well have PX die. Just because I want to.

[Bardiche]

Maybe if NeoSerela would finally answer all the inquiries and explain his point of view, rather than me giving him a free pass. I don't care Rou was on him as well, scumbussing isn't absurd.

That I found Neo scummier at the time but still found fault with Roukanken does not mean I should've switched votes. Serela's input this game has been nothing but empty promises, dodging of my questions, and spouting a whole lot of nonsense until he finally votes Roukanken, saying "if there's another no lynch I'll choke a bitch", implying he didn't even think Rou was scum.

That it was the swing vote is irrelevant to me - as you note yourself, I expressed interest in the Rou case enough that you thought I'd vote him. All it took was two of PX, FFMaster and I to agree to lynch him, and my vote could be counted on from implication. Not posting at all would've made him a heavy lurker, not voting Roukanken would've bitten him in the ass because Town'd collaborate to lynch Roukanken.

His options were limited and I certainly don't intend to lend him free credit for it.

[Serela]

...I wasn't going to post right now because I'm too lazy to reread atm, but Bard's post is just making me askdfadsg.

implying he didn't even think Rou was scum.

Except my previous post I explicitly stated Rou was one of my top two suspects?

empty promises

I may not have been posting very much this game, but I don't recall ever saying I would provide something and then not doing so.

not voting Roukanken would've bitten him in the ass because Town'd collaborate to lynch Roukanken.

At least for me, most of the 3~4 remaining hours were at like midnight, and you were the only person who was surely going to show up with Rou at L-2 still; having another no-lynch happen just because people were not present would not have been surprising at all.

Anyway, might as well post a little bit more right now even if I'm not doing a reread over the topic yet. As Affinity stated, Rev being the main counterwagon against Rou means he likely is not scum. Rev just seems to be a big pile of playstyle differences that, while I don't like his play this game, oh well. I feel Affinity is practically obvtown. That leaves Bard/PX/FFM, two of which are newbies so sigh this has a decent chance of being irritating to my mind. I'll get around to rereading them at some point. Probably tomorrow.

[FFMaster]

Ok, right now... here are my thoughts.

First off, the Doll kill. I'm sure that Doll targetted me. From his posts, he was wary of me. Wary of me enough to throw a vote on me. Considering I didn't get lynched, I *PROBABLY* would have been targetted from his ability. If I was scum and he targetted me, there would have been NO NIGHT KILL, unless Doll was lying about having that "bad vibe" about me, and targetted someone else, which wouldn't have benefitted town at all. Then again, I might be analysing it wrong. This is just from my perspective, and trying to put myself in Doll's shoes with what little he gave us.

Now, everyone else
Affinity - likely townie, since he started pushing the Rou lynch from D1. Unless that was a really ballsy move, I'd probably say 99% townie.
Bardiche - I still feel that he is townie, just not as much from before. I can see what Affinity means when ending RVS is neither a town or a scum move, but it still benefits town more than scum imo.
NeoSarela - I now think that Affinity is right, and that the case on Neo is really just a dispute between philosophies in RVS play. Still wary of him though, and he has been lurking a lot.
PX - same as Neo, but seems to actually be trying not to lurk.
reVelske - I think he is just trying to push others into a negative light to avoid attention on himself. I don't like the way he plays at all. I think he is still pushing for PX lynch because nobody will blame him for it. People will just go "meh, another noob died" and ignore it and never bring it up again. Feels exactly like what scum would do.

##vote reVelske

Hopefully, people won't rush this though. We still have loads of time.

[reVelske]

Really dislike reVelske. Basically, he's saying he has no case on anyone, might as well have PX die. Just because I want to.

No, I said I was (and still am) procrastinating, but it's not like you are doing any more than me anyways, so silence thyself, whelp!

reVelske - I think he is just trying to push others into a negative light to avoid attention on himself. I don't like the way he plays at all. I think he is still pushing for PX lynch because nobody will blame him for it. People will just go "meh, another noob died" and ignore it and never bring it up again. Feels exactly like what scum would do.

Ookee? Really?

First of all, what negative light? Care to elaborate?

Secondly, tch, I don't play mafia to hold hands with people and act out an episode of Teletubbies, it's most unfortunate that you find the minor provocation and aggression to not be to your likings. buuuut... tough.

"You think" people won't blame me for attacking PX? Exactly what scum would do? Haha, oh please.

To be quite honest, I actually expected to be showered with attacks for today, mainly due to my willingness to accept and trust Roukan during the dual-wagon situation whilst still urging for a PX lynch, and for the fact that me and Roukan have had minimal interaction through out Day One and Day Two... I'm actually quite disappointed since I was ready for a fight, and all I get is a pair of yapping puppies :V. And no no, I'm not complaining!

And your reason for me voting PX seem rather far-fetched, I can give you a list of more plausible reasons one could deduce from my vote for PX, it seems that you just conveniently picked the most incriminating one to reason your vote.

[reVelske]

*whistles impatiently*

Soooo.... anyways, was that it, FFM? That was your "case" against me you mentioned at the end of day two? Or is there anything else? Anything of any substance?

Finally got around to reading through all previous pages, FFMaster seem like the odd one out with his minimal contribution, lack of consistency and his complete lack of interaction with Roukan aside from the hammer.

I'm beginning to believe PX to be a townie, mostly due to his interaction and attack on Roukan, what Affinity said could very well be case but I'd like to think I have genuinely pissed him off enough that he'd want to get me voted off every chance he gets, he does seem impulsive enough to play like that.

Dunno about Bard, his action has been consistent and very much pro-town, I did have my doubts about him due to his lack of attention to anyone or anything else aside from Neo despite how pointless the entire RvS argument was between them, buuuut his defense for it seemed good enough and he has since been making good cases on others. His lack of reaction towards Roukan's constant support is slightly suspect though, there were about two instances of wrist-slapping that I can remember, but that's that.

No real change for opinion about anyone else, still see nothing solid with Neo's entire case against Bard through out the past two days, and I'm still willing to write that off as being confused or a matter of perspective. Both his and Affinity's interaction with Roukan make me want to believe they are not aligned with him.

With that said.

##UNVOTE

##VOTE: FFMaster