[ROGUE] Okay let's play some NetHack (and DCSS!) (and Angband!) (and Slash'em!)

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NekoNekoRex:
Crawl is pretty shitty in exactly HOW variable heavy it is. The worst example is the teleport scroll since it's a very long boot up time for what amounts essentially to 'this could get you out of trouble but probably won't' Abyss is another good example since RNG could decide to leave you in there for hours unless you delve into the even more deadly parts of it, or there could be a door right next to you when you land (independent of having the rune or not). Recent versions fixed this a little by giving you more doors if you kill shit, but that's only feasible if you're actually strong enough to survive in the Abyss in the first place, when it wouldn't be a problem.

Hello Purvis:
Yeah, there's a difference between death due to RNG, and frontloading RNG fuckery in a way that, once it happens, there's nothing you can possibly do about it and what you should have done was never gotten into this fight to begin with.

Thanks for reminding me about the AC thing, though. Because that's also some bullshit. "Well your class concept is based around having heavy defense. Oh by the way it won't work a lot of the time have fun with that~~~" Crawl lives deeply in fear that a player might get an advantage somewhere, and works hard to kneecap anything good.

VIVIT:
Was just talking about Brogue with DracoOmega on #maidenhack yesterday. Any of you guys play that game? What do you think of it? He thought it was a little too luck-based, and I kind of agree a little. Once you're on the path for a particular build and spend resources to further that build, you can't get off that path very easily even if the items you need for the build stop spawning later on.

Otherwise, though, it's a really cool game. Lots of interesting emergent gameplay.

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--- Quote from: VIVIT on August 02, 2016, 01:03:43 PM ---#maidenhack

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Wait, what?

Why am I always the last one to find out that places like that exist

Hello Purvis:
Heh, don't get too excited; VIVIT is pretty much the only one who breathes any life into it. Otherwise it's been dormant for literally years.

Also Brogue still sounds like a frat boy's DnD character.

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