Author Topic: Luna Child...baka? (Read 9475 times)

Marin The Magus · « **on:** August 22, 2010, 09:45:22 PM »

Okay, I think I should shut my mouth. But I can't. Why don't you tell me your thoughts...is Luna Child an idiot? I can't see her that way. Speechless, I can accept. Maybe shy. But idiot? Where the hell did that come from? In the manga, she seemed even smarter than Sunny Milk. Or that's what I think ( I read it a while ago, so...)
Sunny Milk is impulsive. Star is really smart. But I don't think that Luna is a nine...I just can't see her that way...
Tell me, can you?

Drake · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2010, 09:51:08 PM »

Where are you even getting this from...?

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2010, 09:53:50 PM »

touhou wiki xD
And the fandom often mentions it...
Edit: But...Just tell me...What do you think?

Drake · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2010, 10:01:54 PM »

Oh. Probably because

Out of the three fairies, she might be the dumbest one, or maybe she just relies too much in her ability to make sound vanish that she's often the only one who fails to escape.

"I often see her falling down in the middle of the road. She's kinda dull." (West side woodcutter.)

"Even though she could walk without sound, she was tip-toeing." (Anonymous)
One of the characteristics of dumbness.

She isn't very practical when it comes to the use of her ability, but she tends to abuse it often. Fairies in general aren't that smart. That's probably why.

N-Forza · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:03:58 AM »

She seems more clumsy than stupid to me.

Esoterica · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:13:45 AM »

Quote from: Drake on August 22, 2010, 10:01:54 PM

"Even though she could walk without sound, she was tip-toeing." (Anonymous)

I find this hilarious for some reason.

Anyway, it's pretty much because she relies on her power for everything, even if she doesn't need to or if it gives her away.

I'm more interested in how Sunnymilk is allegedly the smartest of the three. Star seems considerably smarter most of the time.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:46:35 AM »

Nah, Sunny just have the spirit of a leader. She has great imagination, though. Star is the smartest. Everytime they get busted, Star finds a way to escape.
I think that Luna is kind of "disconnected" from the world...or, spaced out, or however you want to call it...Partially because of her power...

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM »

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Esoterica · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2010, 01:58:55 AM »

Quote from: Yamameko no Naku Roda ni on August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Three if Mr. Kirisame was feeling unfaithful one day.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2010, 02:23:29 AM »

Well, but, MOSTLY, she isn't THAT dumb...(not nine dumb...)

Firestorm29 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:16:09 AM »

I suppose that's the one thing I like most about The Three Fairy stories I've read so far, is that these fairies aren't as super dense as one could think from reading stuff like Akyu's writings about them.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:23:53 AM »

Quote from: Firest☆rm29 on August 23, 2010, 03:16:09 AM

I suppose that's the one thing I like most about The Three Fairy stories I've read so far, is that these fairies aren't as super dense as one could think from reading stuff like Akyu's writings about them.

Yes, I also like that. Luna is my favourite fairy (and I like her personality and other stuff), so, when I found out about Akyu's description of her, I...to put it simply, my face was wtf'd

Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:45:36 AM »

Quote from: Yamameko no Naku Roda ni on August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Wait, what?

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2010, 04:10:08 AM »

Quote from: KimikoMuffin on August 23, 2010, 03:45:36 AM

Wait, what?

My exact thoughts xD

Lord Phantasm Satori · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:41:10 AM »

man, will ZUN ever make a character that defies cliches/stereotypes?

Ayuka · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2010, 06:04:35 AM »

I think this is pretty much the same case with Cirno, or any fairy really. It's not that she's dumb it's that she's childish and lacks common sense, like all fairies. However, calling her an idiot is easier than typing 'she lacks common sense' and in some cases funnier, so that's what people go with. It gets exaggerated in fandom, sure, but it's really a matter of common sense.

OkashiiKisei · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2010, 11:40:30 AM »

Quote from: Yamameko no Naku Roda ni on August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Wait, when did Luna get pregnant...?

...Can fairies even get pregnant?

Myschi · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:05:28 PM »

Quote from: OkashiiKisei on August 23, 2010, 11:40:30 AM

Wait, when did Luna get pregnant...?

...Can fairies even get pregnant?

No freakin' idea, just as confused as you are.

And... I'd /guess/ so... maybe? I mean, like, if a fairy grew out of what-appears-to-be prepubescence, then they could. ... maybe?

It makes sense from a (normal) biological standpoint, but this is Gensokyo, so logic goes right out the window.

OkashiiKisei · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:29:55 PM »

Quote from: Pikbak on August 23, 2010, 12:05:28 PM

No freakin' idea, just as confused as you are.

And... I'd /guess/ so... maybe? I mean, like, if a fairy grew out of what-appears-to-be prepubescence, then they could. ... maybe?

It makes sense from a (normal) biological standpoint, but this is Gensokyo, so logic goes right out the window.

I'm not sure. PM states that the size of fairies ranges from doll size to ten year old child size, and I don't think a child's body is capable of bearing a child. On the other hand, maybe fairies DO get grown up bodies, but they're just midgets. They wouldn't be much taller than children. Then fairies could conceive...maybe...

Or fairies just poof into existence instead of being birthed....

Myschi · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:46:48 PM »

Quote from: OkashiiKisei on August 23, 2010, 12:29:55 PM

Or fairies just poof into existence instead of being birthed....

I think - for sanity's sake - we may want to go with this one...

But that's completely off-topic! (I think...) My guess is, because I've yet to read any of the Three Fairies manga or the translated dialogue from 12.8, this:

Star's likely the most reasonably intelligent one. Book knowledge and common sense, here.

Sunny's probably more along the lines of Cirno: overconfident as hell and likely to rush into things.

Luna... eh... I'm just gonna echo what other people've said. Not /stupid/, but not horribly bright and relies on her power too much. (because the sudden/complete lack of noise totally gives her away)

Edit: Basing my admittedly lame assumptions on what I've read about them on TVTropes and the wiki.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:25:00 PM »

Quote from: Pikbak on August 23, 2010, 12:46:48 PM

I think - for sanity's sake - we may want to go with this one...

But that's completely off-topic! (I think...) My guess is, because I've yet to read any of the Three Fairies manga or the translated dialogue from 12.8, this:

Star's likely the most reasonably intelligent one. Book knowledge and common sense, here.

Sunny's probably more along the lines of Cirno: overconfident as hell and likely to rush into things.

Luna... eh... I'm just gonna echo what other people've said. Not /stupid/, but not horribly bright and relies on her power too much. (because the sudden/complete lack of noise totally gives her away)

Edit: Basing my admittedly lame assumptions on what I've read about them on TVTropes and the wiki.

Your assumptions are right, don't worry xD
Fairies are natural beings...Were they created alongside nature? Who knows...

Myschi · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2010, 04:40:07 PM »

Quote from: Mary The Magician on August 23, 2010, 03:25:00 PM

Your assumptions are right, don't worry xD
Fairies are natural beings...Were they created alongside nature? Who knows...

Woo I'm correct!

Also, that's a good point. Someone, somewhere, threw out the theory that a fairy is directly tied to its natural counterpart (Cirno and ice, for instance) and that they'd disappear if that counterpart would 'end,' if you will.

Tengukami · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2010, 04:41:23 PM »

Quote from: Yamameko no Naku Roda ni on August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Nthing wanting to know what this is all about.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:06:56 PM »

Quote from: Pikbak on August 23, 2010, 04:40:07 PM

Woo I'm correct!

Also, that's a good point. Someone, somewhere, threw out the theory that a fairy is directly tied to its natural counterpart (Cirno and ice, for instance) and that they'd disappear if that counterpart would 'end,' if you will.

I would become a part of green peace just to save fairies, you know?

Savory · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:09:37 PM »

Actually, I think Luna's a bit more distant. To me she seems more like an expy of Patchouli.

Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:12:09 PM »

I think Kilga's just talking out his ass in the middle of a halfway-serious discussion.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:30:38 PM »

Maybe he meant something we are not understanding?(Marisa: Is there something I'm missing?)
I won't say anything until I hear what he meant, so...

Jaimers · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:39:32 PM »

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Luna's in- game portrait in GFW looks like she's pregnant.

Marin The Magus · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:44:56 PM »

Oh THAT.
I thought she didn't look well, but that idea...never...crossed my mind...
but that's no reason to call her dumb...I think?

Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2010, 05:45:31 PM »

lol taking artstyle-shenanigans literally :V