Touhou 12.8 - 妖精大戦争 ～ 東方三月精 ~ The Great Fairy Wars. F-ff-freezing a-a-article

[Drayen]

How do you change keybinds.. my fingers are starting to hurt, i dislike tapping, C istoo far away and ctrl makes my fingers feel weird after awhile, zun really choosed a poor setup of hotkeys.

[LHCling]

Got pinged to this topic by a certain individual since I'm that person who "always points to the key remap".

How do you change keybinds.. my fingers are starting to hurt, i dislike tapping, C istoo far away and ctrl makes my fingers feel weird after awhile, zun really choosed a poor setup of hotkeys.

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=219.msg4184#msg4184

[nintendonut888]

Cool people just tap Z. It's strategically better because your finger is already on the button needed to unleash a can of antifreeze, and for anything above normal and extra this quick reaction is necessary.

Love the game BTW. It's believable that the game was rushed due to some unpolished aspects, but this shows that even in a rush ZUN delivers.

[ArteShy]

So, anyone has some tips for Fairy wars? It's the hardest touhou game ever! i can't beat it even on easy!

[Garlyle]

Nah, it's really not the hardest.

It does, however, have the steepest learning curve in order to survive, I think; as you're not just dealing with danmaku but also learning how to freeze stuff.

Speaking of which: Freeze stuff, then freeze more stuff, then freeze even more stuff.  That is how you succeed.

[Erppo]

I don't normally have any trouble with tap/hold controls but in this game you also have a separate hold-focus button besides that so I find it extremely confusing. The default keys are also set up so that using autofire will make your fingers hurt after a while. I currently use z=autofire, x=shot, c=bomb and that seems to be working just fine for me.

I'm really liking the game so far. Also I don't think it's nearly as difficult as some people keep saying. It's just that it's different from the other games so you can't expect to be able to play on the same level right away.

[neosaver]

The spell cards are not the same.

True, I made a mistake, the boss spellcards change, but not its non-spell cards.

I think you doing the Retry after Clearing bug thing broke your game

Ooooh, so that's why! I thought there was a puzzle game, I made a "Give up and retry" thing on some routes, that's why I got some endings I already had...wow funny glitch, hooray.

[COOL TEXAS COWBOY]

FREEZE MORE,

SPELL CARD FREZES BULLETS

While recharging, just dodge.

[Nobu]

Nah, it's really not the hardest.

It does, however, have the steepest learning curve in order to survive, I think; as you're not just dealing with danmaku but also learning how to freeze stuff.

Speaking of which: Freeze stuff, then freeze more stuff, then freeze even more stuff.  That is how you succeed.

To get gold medals on a spellcard, you have to clear it with no bombs, no misses, and no freezing. So for the completionist, Fairy Wars is potentially the hardest game in the series by a longshot.

Also.. merging this with the Fairy Wars thread in Front Page Headlines.

[Tengukami]

To get gold medals on a spellcard, you have to clear it with no bombs, no misses, and no freezing.

!

Are you fu-

Oh man.

[BeyPok?Dig]

That's why i asked few pages back if anyone has any gold medals on lunatic. I guess gold medals will be easiest in stage 1. But on other difficulties (especially on easy due to lack of freezable things) it will probably be stage 2, because in stage 1 you probably won't have so much power -> potentially harder than 2nd stage (stage 3 is obviously the hardest)

[KomeijiKoishi]

To get gold medals on a spellcard, you have to clear it with no bombs, no misses, and no freezing.

ZUN has finally turned into a(n even bigger) sadist.

[shadowbringer]

ZUN has finally turned into a(n even bigger) sadist.

imho (and I haven't even touched FW yet), the spellcards seem to be balanced towards not using the freeze feature, while the nonspells seem to be there to be frozen (or maybe grazemilked) after you've shot the bosses during the spellcards. Graze count is still the most frustrating part about the series, imho :p

How do the spellcard bonuses are calculated? Is speedkilling important? Because if that's so, maybe it would be better to try to freeze as much areas as possible, to raise level (and shot power) at the expense of some spellcards..

[Tengukami]

imho (and I haven't even touched FW yet), the spellcards seem to be balanced towards not using the freeze feature, while the nonspells seem to be there to be frozen

Absolutely. Furthermore, I was quite surprised by how rapidly I leveled up through chainfreezing fairy bullets.

[The Greatest Dog]

The spellcards have no score difference between gold and silver medals. But I'm not sure if you can outrun the score timer by freezing tons of stuff.

Actually, though, since the score bonus is usually only in the 400000 mark, you might score better by freezing it to 0.

[Nobu]

imho (and I haven't even touched FW yet), the spellcards seem to be balanced towards not using the freeze feature, while the nonspells seem to be there to be frozen (or maybe grazemilked) after you've shot the bosses during the spellcards.

Is this true for Hard/Lunatic? I haven't seen any spellcards that are unreasonable, but i've only been playing on Easy. And doing an Easy spellcard without freeze is like doing a Normal spellcard in any other Touhou game, so I can only imagine how scaled up the difficulty is for Lunatic.

Naut mode? :3

[Tengukami]

OK, the FPS is confounding me. Fullscreen, runs 74 FPS. Windowed, 60.

BUT ... 74 FPS doesn't feel all the fast in this game (UFO at 72 FPS, for example, felt like it was running at lightning speed), while 60 FPS felt really slow.

And so I am left with the quandry: play at the intended speed in windowed mode, where it feels slow, or play at an increased speed full screen, where it feels just right.

I'm leaning towards the latter. Heavily.

[scherzo]

Is this true for Hard/Lunatic? I haven't seen any spellcards that are unreasonable, but i've only been playing on Easy. And doing an Easy spellcard without freeze is like doing a Normal spellcard in any other Touhou game, so I can only imagine how scaled up the difficulty is for Lunatic.

Naut mode? :3

The spawning pink circles and tracking yellow pellets cards both seem either undodgeable or human impossible on normal.

Also, is anyone else getting stability issues with this game? I've had it crash twice on me so far.

Edit: yellow pellets card actually looks not too bad - the bullet density is rather low.

[Tengukami]

Not having any crashes or frozen start-ups (forgive the pun).

[Shizzo]

I will idolize who makes a perfect lunatic run with gold medals only~~

Although some spellcards look so impossible...

[DgBarca]

I have just unlock extra...
Just whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?

[Formless God]

USE YOUR BARIA

[Formless God]

It's Lunatic.

[DSveno]

I'm pretty sure I got the same amount of bullets in Normal, but it's non-spellcard so just ignore what I posted.

[Naut]

Naut mode? :3

There are some spellcards that would take a fucking machine to gold on lunatic, Luna's CAPTAIN MURASA pellet spam card comes to mind. If somebody does it, I doubt it could be attributed to skill since nobody here is even close to that level yet.

But dammit we're trying.

[trancehime]

Absolutely. Furthermore, I was quite surprised by how rapidly I leveled up through chainfreezing fairy bullets.

The more area of the screen you freeze, the faster you gain power, so chain-freezing is a very good way to BECOME STRONGER THAN STRONGEST

Also this game made my Cirno respect rise rapidly

Spoiler:

come on she even gave mareesa a thing or two to think about

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[Garlyle]

Well, that's the thing about Danmaku - you're not allowed to simply overpower the opponent or be cheap, so anyone can technically win.

[Ghaleon]

I suck at this game hard. I mean.. For some reason no matter what kind of button setup I use (or if I just try tapping 'z'), my fingers become tangled and confused about what button is focus, which is shoot, and which is freeze (not bomb though). I don't suffer this while playing STB or DS, just this game. So I frequently fly straight into bullets that I'm fully aware are there thinking I'm moving towards them in focus mode, only to zoom into them unfocused.

I also kill myself during a freeze thinking I'm safe to move around in a certain area since I see a buncha frozen bullets there, only sometimes I miss one or something and blam, I fly right into it..

How do you unlock extra? 1cc the game on normal on all 6 routes?

[Garlyle]

 Yes, you need 1ccs on all six routes.

I personally do the tapping thing.  It's a bit of a pain, but I did it in PoFV too and I do it in the Shikigami no Shiro games as well, so I'm kind of used to it.  It makes it much easier to not be jumbling up your fingers.

[Ghaleon]

uhh. is it just me, or does Route B-1's final boss cast GRT on normal? Seriously.