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| Helepolis:
I need to read on the items.. I have no idea how to treat the items. |
| trancehime:
Replay attach... 1v1 (with another AI for lulz) against Choja... It is the replay where I get stuck using China's Earth and Sky Dragon Kick. Also ass-kickings |
| shadowbringer:
some questions.. - is there a weapon/recipe which gives the bleeding orb effect? (like Sange&Yasha's?) - does the stun effect chance on normal attacks work through cloned heroes? (I don't remember) - is there a lifesteal-giving item/recipe? (like Mask of Death/Mask of Madness/Helm of the Dominator/Satanic?) - is there a strong hp-regen item/recipe? (like Heart of the Tarrasque?) - is there an evasion-based recipe? (like Butterfly?) - is there an ultimate skill-enhancing recipe? (like Aghanim's Scepter?) - is there a teleport-giving item/recipe? (not like Gensokyo's Bus Ticket or Yukari's Portal, but like the Blink Dagger) - is there an armor/recipe which damages melee attackers? (like Blade Mail.. the closest I could find was Myon's Balloon, but it doesn't return damage) - is there another stun-based weapon/recipe, which also gives attack speed? (which would look more like Monkey King Bar?) - is there an invisibility-giving weapon/recipe? (like Lothar's Edge?) - is there a weapon/recipe which deals damage over time to nearby enemies? (like Radiance) - is there an item solely for attack speed? (like Hyperstone?) - Kaguya doesn't farm well at the beginning, she can't run away and her support ultimate doesn't look rewarding enough (though the team lineup wasn't given much thought and we're all learning the game). Her first skill drains mp, has limited range and deals little damage. So, it's difficult for her to start having good mp regen until she can focus on attack equipment (she also can't run away if she needs to). Any suggestions? - edit: here's one more: is there an mp-draining weapon/recipe? Or something which gives the Purge skill? |
| Pesco:
--- Quote from: shadowbringer on August 10, 2010, 02:12:29 PM ---some questions.. - is there a weapon/recipe which gives the bleeding orb effect? (like Sange&Yasha's?) No, Rumia's passive has this - does the stun effect chance on normal attacks work through cloned heroes? (I don't remember) Probably does - is there a lifesteal-giving item/recipe? (like Mask of Death/Mask of Madness/Helm of the Dominator/Satanic?) No. Lifesteal from an item make things very boring and most heroes unkillable - is there a strong hp-regen item/recipe? (like Heart of the Tarrasque?) There are 2 items that give a lot of STR, but not the regen - is there an evasion-based recipe? (like Butterfly?) Yes there is, but the rate is pretty low and doesn't actually synergise with the item - is there an ultimate skill-enhancing recipe? (like Aghanim's Scepter?) No, the girls' ultimates are broken enough as it is. - is there a teleport-giving item/recipe? (not like Gensokyo's Bus Ticket or Yukari's Portal, but like the Blink Dagger) There's an item that blinks you randomly, otherwise no - is there an armor/recipe which damages melee attackers? (like Blade Mail.. the closest I could find was Myon's Balloon, but it doesn't return damage) No Blade Mail, but there really should be one given how imba the game is - is there another stun-based weapon/recipe, which also gives attack speed? (which would look more like Monkey King Bar?) No, all the effets you want are on separate items - is there an invisibility-giving weapon/recipe? (like Lothar's Edge?) There's an item that gives you Doppelwalk, it's close enough - is there a weapon/recipe which deals damage over time to nearby enemies? (like Radiance) No, you don't really need it and the immolation effect isn't good enough late game anyway - is there an item solely for attack speed? (like Hyperstone?) Hand of Midas equivalent is the best you're going to get - Kaguya doesn't farm well at the beginning, she can't run away and her support ultimate doesn't look rewarding enough (though the team lineup wasn't given much thought and we're all learning the game). Her first skill drains mp, has limited range and deals little damage. So, it's difficult for her to start having good mp regen until she can focus on attack equipment (she also can't run away if she needs to). Any suggestions? Kaguya is a team player from what I can see. Mokou is better :V - edit: here's one more: is there an mp-draining weapon/recipe? Or something which gives the Purge skill? An item has a 2 sec purge that drops the target's INT by 60 for 6 seconds. Iku has a 9 second purge-slow and Siki has a purge-damage spell. --- End quote --- |
| shadowbringer:
thank you for the information.. but I have to disagree about two things: - lifesteal sometimes isn't the best option for certain characters (which could use a better orb effect instead for the character or against certain opponents, or simply be underused by a character's poor dps); since it can be used to refill life on creeps or heroes, it helps change the decisions/priorities for the attacking/defending teams (like, for example, the one using it has enough life to attempt to take part of a team battle or should he/she heal at the fountain, or if his/her hp is low enough for the defenders to focus on him and then turtle back), if used conservatively. - radiance can be used to help you kill creeps faster and is good for either tankers or heroes who can use invisibility (this means, it's beneficial if the battles last longer, with your team being able to stay together for a longer time) these are just my opinions, though. Anyways.. do the latest maps still have that very limited visibility at night? If so, is there a way around that? (that didn't happen in the latest partially-translated version..) |
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