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Zengeku:


--- Quote from: Suwako Mafiya on June 11, 2009, 08:26:11 PM ---Zengeku Topic/10

Man, I expected more. This topic was oddly bland.

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Well, what did you expect? I'm not giving PCB, the DoDonPachi treatment. (The one where i based on completely biased ideals of what a shooting game should be is bashing the game, much to everyones frustration.)

And why did you expect more? You've got a grudge against PCB? Let's hear it!


Sodium:

PCB Stages  4-6 are fine.
PCB Stages 2-3 are "What the fuck is this shit doing in my Stage 2 and 3?"

bjw:


--- Quote from: Krim on June 11, 2009, 05:50:58 PM ---Actually, Lunasa's opener is aimed.  Not directly at you, but in front of you.  You want to start out by shotgunning her, so that the first few walls develop at the top, rather than down at the bottom where they'll trap you.  In doing so, you buy yourself some time where you can capture the attack without getting too claustrophobic.

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Indeed, that's also the strategy I use. However, the second non-card is a complete mindfuck for me. I can do the first and second waves, but the third wave shoves so many crisscrossing bullets into my face that I don't know what the hell to do.

As for the OP, I will admit that the Prismrivers and Yuyuko are pretty bland, but nonetheless, I still enjoy their respective battles. (Although, I can do without the Prismrivers' bullshit openers and last cards, as well as Yuyuko's Ghost Knives.)

I really do like PCB though. It's challenging. Hell, even Chen still keeps me on my toes, and she's a Stage 2 boss.

Silentsword:


--- Quote from: Suwako Mafiya on June 11, 2009, 09:02:15 PM ---...PCB Stages 2-3 are "What the fuck is this shit doing in my Stage 2 and 3?"

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*giggles* Agreed.  I'm grinding PCB on hard (with MarisaA) right now, and I have to continually remind myself through those two stages that all I need to do is get through Russian Dolls so that I can open up again.  Stage 4 is a blast, you can adjust the Prismriver fight to match your mood, and Youmu is a joyous fight on hard.


@Zengeku:
Speaking of Youmu....The slowdown is actually rather sneaky, in that it is definitely there to help the player, but only if you let it help you.  At least with Marisa, while that slowdown is in effect, your unfocused movement is roughly the same apparent speed as your focused movement would normally be.  If you switch to unfocused, you can use those precious frames to wend a path through the bullet walls she throws up at you and get to the other side before the game goes back to normal speed, because your perception, analysis, and reaction times are enhanced due to the slowdown.  If you try to fight the slowdown and use focused movement, it becomes terribly difficult to get through, and you'll almost certainly be caught within the wall of bullets when time returns to normal.

Zengeku:


--- Quote from: Silentsword on June 13, 2009, 04:03:14 AM ---@Zengeku:
Speaking of Youmu....The slowdown is actually rather sneaky, in that it is definitely there to help the player, but only if you let it help you.  At least with Marisa, while that slowdown is in effect, your unfocused movement is roughly the same apparent speed as your focused movement would normally be.  If you switch to unfocused, you can use those precious frames to wend a path through the bullet walls she throws up at you and get to the other side before the game goes back to normal speed, because your perception, analysis, and reaction times are enhanced due to the slowdown.  If you try to fight the slowdown and use focused movement, it becomes terribly difficult to get through, and you'll almost certainly be caught within the wall of bullets when time returns to normal.

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As of yet, i have only fought Youmu on Hard once but i think i understand what you are saying. As far as Normal mode goes i've got no problems with Youmu but her non-spells and Delusion of Enlightenment is still much more fun than any of her slow-down spellcards.

Also another thing. Is the Prismriver battle random or something? I just watched a replay by Heartbeam. Thought i might learn something you see. Then when he fought with the Prismrivers they came up with a spellcard, Hino Phantasm or something like that, that i have never seen before. I have only practiced the stage four times in an effort to gain an all-spellcard bonus run of it and in those i never encountered that spell.

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