Okuu Quest After - A Z-Machine Adventure

[Doll.S CUBE]

> It's not that aggressive. It's merely closing off one of her excuses by pointing out it causes a logical inconsistency. It's banter with teeth, sure, but it's still well within the realm of banter.

EDIT: Wait, you don't seriously think a fight is avoidable at this point, do you? Buying time is all well and good but you still want to maintain control of the conversation, as well as try to get her angry. Angry people make mistakes.

>Eh, lets get someone else to decide

[UncertainJakutten]

>Eh, lets get someone else to decide

All right.

[Hello Purvis]

>"Destroying things? How many things have I honestly destroyed since I gained my power back? One jet tire, by my count."

>"By accident? What do you mean?"

>"I mean in the sense of the balance that exists in this world," says Kanako. "Done improperly, you could well erase Gensokyo as a whole."
>"Do you think it just happened to find you, Utsuho? I may not be perfect, but I am not so careless."

> "Ohhhhhhhh? This is interesting. I assumed it was because you screwed up, given how antagonistic things have been so far between us. Is there something you'd like to say? I really hope this isn't going to turn into 'I wanted to make an example of you' cause that'd be kinda mean and also kinda toilet about 90% of your arguments right now."

>"You are slipping into pride again. But no, it was not my intention."

> "And we had permission to destroy that jet tire. I wanted to just take the keys, but jets don't have keys, or something."

>"You did coerce her," Kanako says, "But no, that is not what I mean."

> "If I intended destruction, I have had more than enough opportunity to do so already. I... Am aware that my track record in the other world is, um, not a good one... I honestly do not believe my actions during that particular incident can be excused, but have I not shown that I have no desire to destroy things in this world? I didn't even really hurt Sanae any more than enough to get her to surrender... Surely you don't believe that I am going to suddenly start destroying things again?"

>"If you mean the things you have said about changing the world back, then yes, I do believe you would try it. And even if there were no danger, I cannot allow that."

> "Honestly, Kanako, I just want to go home. Not to some fake imitation of it."
> "A fake gensokyo is just that. A fake. No amount of pleasure will make it more valuable or desirable than the true one."

>"What makes a home, Utsuho, but the people who are there? Are you calling your loved ones fake? Or the times you have shared?"
>You...think you see some other motion in the night sky, past Kanako.


>_

[DracoOmega]

>"Are you saying that you led the crow spirit to me? Why?"
>"And how does that explain Orin's cat? I know you weren't there for that, because I was."

>Can we get any idea of who it is?

[Hello Purvis]

>"Are you saying that you led the crow spirit to me? Why?"
>"And how does that explain Orin's cat? I know you weren't there for that, because I was."

>Can we get any idea of who it is?

>"No," says Kanako. "Rather, that I  had nothing to do with it at all."
>"You are correct. I had nothing to do with it, either."
>Not immediately. And there's a good chance Kanako would notice you looking at this person if you try too hard.

>_

[Kilgamayan]

> "Then who was phone responsible for it?"

[UncertainJakutten]

> So she doesn't seem to be with Kanako?
> Maintain normal eye positioning and forget there's anyone behind her.
> Sigh theatrically
> "Are you going to tell me anything straightforwardly? You say on the one hand I'm being prideful and not thinking of everyone else, but on the other you refuse to tell me the whole story. If you can just memory wipe me, what do you have to gain by speaking in riddles and implying this or that without saying anything?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "Then who was phone responsible for it?"

>"Someone who thinks I'm not aware," says Kanako. "She'll be dealt with. But as I said, this won't happen again."

> So she doesn't seem to be with Kanako?
> Maintain normal eye positioning and forget there's anyone behind her.
> Sigh theatrically
> "Are you going to tell me anything straightforwardly? You say on the one hand I'm being prideful and not thinking of everyone else, but on the other you refuse to tell me the whole story. If you can just memory wipe me, what do you have to gain by speaking in riddles and implying this or that without saying anything?"

>You don't know that, but it seems likely.
>You sigh.
>"Consider it a divine habit," she says. "But very well, I shall allow you this much the respect you've shown. I did it, more than anything else, for love of Sanae. Others have benefited, but that is secondary to me."

>_

[DracoOmega]

>"And does Sanae know that this was primarily for her? Do you think she'd accept it if she knew that?"

[Hello Purvis]

>"And does Sanae know that this was primarily for her? Do you think she'd accept it if she knew that?"

>"I believe so," says Kanako. "She'd accept it because she knows it has served many others as well."

>_

[Seian Verian]

> "So you're saying she doesn't know? Perhaps you should tell her, just to be sure."
> Is the other person coming closer?

[DracoOmega]

>"Are you sure? Why hadn't you already told her, then? Why didn't you tell her when you were planning things? Why don't you actually see what she thinks?"

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "So you did it for her, why do that exactly, did she not like living in Gensokyo? If so, couldn't you guys just move out, why...why do all this?"

[UncertainJakutten]

> How charged are we?

[Kilgamayan]

> How charged are we?

> Disco Fever, baby. Let's kick it off at 78 rpm all night long. Ohhh yeah.

[Hello Purvis]

> "So you're saying she doesn't know? Perhaps you should tell her, just to be sure."
> Is the other person coming closer?

>"She prefers to support it for the reasons," says Kanako. "But she understands my feelings."

> "So you did it for her, why do that exactly, did she not like living in Gensokyo? If so, couldn't you guys just move out, why...why do all this?"

>"Because, she loved Gensokyo too," says Kanako.

> How charged are we?

>You are at 100%

> Disco Fever, baby. Let's kick it off at 78 rpm all night long. Ohhh yeah.

>Iku Quest has not yet been released by Purvis Hobotech.

>_

[Kilgamayan]

> "So she loved it enough to let you mold it into something entirely different without asking its denizens if it was what they wanted as well? What about it did she love, if not the people?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "So she loved it enough to let you mold it into something entirely different without asking its denizens if it was what they wanted as well? What about it did she love, if not the people?"

>"Were you so different?" asks Kanako. "Your family? Your friends? Is anyone really that different, save for the loss of some of their problems? And if they are, do you really begrudge them this?"

>_

[Seian Verian]

> "So are you saying that you won't even ask her? Someone who trusts you, and already knows about this world, and you won't even ask her what she thinks about it? Do you really believe that you cannot err? That it cannot be wrong simply because you do it?"

[Kasu]

> If possible, bleed off a bit of the charge in a non-violent manner.  There was mention of a full charge potentially hurting us if held for too long correct?

[UncertainJakutten]

> Is there anyway to discharge power without blowing stuff up? We want her to trust us and I'm willing to drop to 60%.
> If we CAN discharge safely, say "Unrelated, but I'm fully charged now, and am currently purging a portion of my charge as a sign I'm still willing to discuss this. Course, you probably already knew I was at full. Fair enough?"

[Kilgamayan]

> "I suppose I should come out and say it, since it's been put to me several times. I disagree that the ends justify the means. All the empirical evidence means nothing to me in the face of consent violation. And, from the sounds of things, I'm not the only one that thinks so."

[DracoOmega]

>"Of course I'm not unhappy that people feel happier. But don't you feel there should be limits to how much you can shape other's lives? As a god, your power comes from the faith of those who believe in you. How much faith do you think some of these people would have if they knew what you'd done? Is it right of a god to betray the faith that others have placed in you?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "So are you saying that you won't even ask her? Someone who trusts you, and already knows about this world, and you won't even ask her what she thinks about it? Do you really believe that you cannot err? That it cannot be wrong simply because you do it?"

>"I don't need to ask her, Utsuho," says Kanako. "She is my priestess. The bond we have foregos this. And it is possible for me to err, but here I have not."

> If possible, bleed off a bit of the charge in a non-violent manner.  There was mention of a full charge potentially hurting us if held for too long correct?

>You have some time before that happens.

> Is there anyway to discharge power without blowing stuff up? We want her to trust us and I'm willing to drop to 60%.
> If we CAN discharge safely, say "Unrelated, but I'm fully charged now, and am currently purging a portion of my charge as a sign I'm still willing to discuss this. Course, you probably already knew I was at full. Fair enough?"

>You can just let it go. It'll die away safely without your effort to control it.
>She nods. "It is no problem."

> "I suppose I should come out and say it, since it's been put to me several times. I disagree that the ends justify the means. All the empirical evidence means nothing to me in the face of consent violation. And, from the sounds of things, I'm not the only one that thinks so."

>"Perhaps not. But these means do justify the happiness that it has brought Sanae. That others have benefited as they have is a happy side effect, which I can take joy in."

>"Of course I'm not unhappy that people feel happier. But don't you feel there should be limits to how much you can shape other's lives? As a god, your power comes from the faith of those who believe in you. How much faith do you think some of these people would have if they knew what you'd done? Is it right of a god to betray the faith that others have placed in you?"

>"I wonder if you are aware of the prayers I recieve, Utsuho? How many people ask me for courage, who ask me for strength to endure, or to remove a trial for them. I do not feel it was a betrayal of my faithful."

[DracoOmega]

>"And do these followers understand what has been taken from them? Things have been given, yes, but also taken. What is the truth of faith not given knowing truth? So, Kanako, I pray to you for truth."

>Can we get a better idea of who that figure is, without making our looking too obvious?

[Seian Verian]

> "Your standard is not absolute any more than mine is, goddess or not. You have already all but said that someone who already remembered the other world was responsible for the first part of my awakening. Are you saying you will just ignore the reasons they might have for their efforts as well? Are you saying that no one else could possibly prefer the other world? Are you saying that you know exactly how all their minds work, to know for sure what they would think?"

[Kilgamayan]

> "That sounds like an excuse to not ask Sanae to me. It would certainly explain how she felt it was justified just because you did it. Are you not going to ask her directly because you're afraid of hearing something you don't want to?"
> "And even if she does feel this is right for reasons other than because "you did it" it still leaves us at an impasse. You creating this world in the name of your loved ones, me restoring the real one in the name of mine."

[Kilgamayan]

> "And what of this other party, who seeks to undo your plans? They must hate Sanae, right?"

[Hello Purvis]

>"And do these followers understand what has been taken from them? Things have been given, yes, but also taken. What is the truth of faith not given knowing truth? So, Kanako, I pray to you for truth."

>Can we get a better idea of who that figure is, without making our looking too obvious?

>"They cannot be thankful for that the loss of the burdens they cannot recall they had," says Kanako. "But that is fine, I have my own reward."
>You...think it's someone in a dress, and a mop hat.

> "Your standard is not absolute any more than mine is, goddess or not. You have already all but said that someone who already remembered the other world was responsible for the first part of my awakening. Are you saying you will just ignore the reasons they might have for their efforts as well? Are you saying that no one else could possibly prefer the other world? Are you saying that you know exactly how all their minds work, to know for sure what they would think?"

>"I am saying their reasons, and yours, are primarily selfish. What I do, as I said, I do for Sanae. If I must choose between her and this person, it is a clear choice."

> "That sounds like an excuse to not ask Sanae to me. It would certainly explain how she felt it was justified just because you did it. Are you not going to ask her directly because you're afraid of hearing something you don't want to?"
> "And even if she does feel this is right for reasons other than because "you did it" it still leaves us at an impasse. You creating this world in the name of your loved ones, me restoring the real one in the name of mine."

>"I have show it's not necessary. Whether or not you believe me is up to you.
>"How is returning Satori to her isolation in the name of your loved ones?"

> "And what of this other party, who seeks to undo your plans? They must hate Sanae, right?"

>"Perhaps so. Perhaps she simply lost sight of things outside of herself."

>_

[Doll.S CUBE]

> Do we know anyone that has a mop hat?