Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F  (Read 241106 times)

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #150 on: June 11, 2010, 09:00:34 PM »
sorry, but I really call bs.
Conveniantly I'm right at that part of the game. Though I don't use 10f girl in this playthru. I used the cheat program to boost up her skillpoints so they all cost 2000 skillpoints to level, I also leveled 10f girl to 65, and gave her 3 robes of twilight (which is impossibly good gear on a normal playthru this early in the game)

I wanted to see how bad "the nuke" wasted her, but I didn't even live 1 second, the boss 1shot her with slash dive.. and you're telling me she'll survive the panic nuke? I'll try again...

Ok so she does. Yet she gets ⑨ed by other attacks of less power. But that doesn't say her Def/mnd is better than I expect (I already knew it was good, but it's not THAT good), it tells me 15F Girl's (as the boss) panic nuke itself has a screwball damage formula that's something like: 10X ((atk+mag) - (def + mnd)) instead of something like 2X (3atk + 3mnd) -.. etc.

It's just that I used 10F girl on my first playthru, and I actually leveld up her def and mind more than I leveld up anybody else's main stat, she was always the first to get those boosts. And she was hard to hurt yes, but she WOULD get damaged by many things, and sometimes even 1shot by things simple as an ether flare due to her terrible hp.

Well, I haven't been in such a situation that 10F gets oneshotted in any way when she's at least halfway buffed. She does however get smeared up the walls in a bossfight's first turn, since she tends to be unbuffed for the first attack, but she almost always survives.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #151 on: June 11, 2010, 09:22:28 PM »
F10/11/12

fuckin switches, how do they work

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #152 on: June 11, 2010, 09:26:21 PM »
F10/11/12

fuckin switches, how do they work
This 3-floor puzzle can take a long time. It's definitely one of the more lengthy floors to do, second in :effort: only to 18F. That fact that it's three whole floors kinda makes up for it, though.

Basically, when a switch is ON, you can pass through colored barriers that are filled with light. When the switch is OFF, the colored barriers that look more empty may be walked through. And there are three different colors/switches, so... oh dear.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #153 on: June 11, 2010, 09:41:17 PM »
F10/11/12

fuckin switches, how do they work

You'll be crying blood in the end, good sir. One part has you run for your money, so to speak, having a long-ass trek to push buttons left and right and up and down. Ha ha ha!

Sorry, feeling a bit sadistic, having cleared it myself. Also, fuckin magnets

Also, for those doing NG+ and not wanting to arse themselves with the first few bosses, just throw Slacker at them. They have almost no DTH resistance, it's quite funny actually. I've oneshotted China, Chen and Youmu so far thanks to slackah.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #154 on: June 11, 2010, 09:51:53 PM »
went for the second F8 girl

second attempt ever at the boss(first one was underleveled), almost no chars left, 1 turn before FH, used Yin-Yang Orb, 2500...and he died.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #155 on: June 11, 2010, 09:55:37 PM »
how long are the plus disk floors

also will the bonus disk work on 2.04?

EDIT: goddamnit doublepost
I should go to bed

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #156 on: June 11, 2010, 09:57:44 PM »
how long are the plus disk floors

also will the bonus disk work on 2.04?

EDIT: goddamnit doublepost
I should go to bed
Depends on the floor (28F is... ): ) , and yes.

Plus Disk isn't nearly as fun as the normal game.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #157 on: June 11, 2010, 10:09:41 PM »
Plus Disk basically goes something like "hmmhmm...knock out a few floors, grind a bunch...grind massively for 25F...dick around a while...oh look another grindwall...and another...last few floors...yay last floor AND I NEED TO BE 400 TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS FLOOR AND 500 FOR THE NEXT BOSSES AND 600 FOR THE LAST BOSS FUCK THIS THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGggggggg.....*echo*"

I hope that special version or whatever they're calling it makes the Plus DIsk grindwalls more manageable. I like this game a lot but I'd rather do things like see the sun a few minutes a day than grind into next year.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #158 on: June 11, 2010, 11:06:02 PM »
Plus Disk basically goes something like "hmmhmm...knock out a few floors, grind a bunch...grind massively for 25F...dick around a while...oh look another grindwall...and another...last few floors...yay last floor AND I NEED TO BE 400 TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS FLOOR AND 500 FOR THE NEXT BOSSES AND 600 FOR THE LAST BOSS FUCK THIS THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGggggggg.....*echo*"

I hope that special version or whatever they're calling it makes the Plus DIsk grindwalls more manageable. I like this game a lot but I'd rather do things like see the sun a few minutes a day than grind into next year.

According to their main site, they will.
Also, what's recommended lvl for F15 girl?  My F10 girl with 100% def and mnd paralyzed in first slot kept getting so many hits..

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #159 on: June 12, 2010, 01:41:11 AM »
I'm curious how badly the translation patch for 2.04 will get fuxed up with the special disk too. To be honest I really doubt I'm capable of updating the patch, but I might attempt it if the crew who patched the game don't do it.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #160 on: June 12, 2010, 04:10:27 AM »
Am I the only one who's getting
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Forbidden Fruit
spam from 15F?  She does it like 4 times in a row, random attack, and spam some more.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #161 on: June 12, 2010, 04:38:54 AM »
Am I the only one who's getting
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Forbidden Fruit
spam from 15F?  She does it like 4 times in a row, random attack, and spam some more.
She was more fond of one-shotting my tank with slash dive for me.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #162 on: June 12, 2010, 04:41:49 AM »
She also loves to Slash Dive my Reimu in first 3 turns..  This will take a while.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #163 on: June 12, 2010, 04:45:56 AM »
She also loves to Slash Dive my Reimu in first 3 turns..  This will take a while.
My strategy for the fight was pretty much this:

1. Have
Spoiler:
Tenshi, Reimu, Ran, and Aya/Sakuya buffspam.  Don't bother healing.
2. After the first nuke, switch in
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Sanae
and
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Kaguya
3. Spam 
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Miracle Fruit
on
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Kaguya
, have
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Kaguya
spam
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Hourai Barrage
for 100k+ damage (assuming ~level 65)
4. Put
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Sanae/Kaguya
in the reserve slots whenever you expect one of the composite nukes.  Watch as
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Tenshi
takes 0 damage.

Rinse and repeat.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #164 on: June 12, 2010, 05:00:41 AM »
Time to grind with
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Sanae, Mokou, Reisen, and Eirin
to unlock
Spoiler:
Kaguya
.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2010, 05:15:05 AM by Space »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #165 on: June 12, 2010, 05:09:23 AM »
> Ok... can anyone explain why the game goes uber slow whenever it tries loading(the screen shifting black, then shifting to something else, but for me it lags out before it shifts to the "something else") or I use something flashy/big/worth using like Master Spark?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #166 on: June 12, 2010, 05:10:55 AM »
> Ok... can anyone explain why the game goes uber slow whenever it tries loading(the screen shifting black, then shifting to something else, but for me it lags out before it shifts to the "something else") or I use something flashy/big/worth using like Master Spark?
Like I said earlier, v2.04 lags like hell for me, but v2.06 runs just fine.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #167 on: June 12, 2010, 01:09:53 PM »
Mine only lags when I use Fantasy Seal(Right about the last 2 balls)...
MASTAH SPAAARK doesn't affect the game for me owo

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #168 on: June 12, 2010, 01:28:22 PM »
what is BP and how is it required for recruiting characters

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #169 on: June 12, 2010, 01:32:50 PM »
what is BP and how is it required for recruiting characters
When you fight a battle, everyone in your active party when you start will gain 1 BP. Everyone in the party when you win will gain 1 BP.

I think one of those might affect all 12 people and not just the four in your party, but I don't really remember.

Whoever has the most BP will be the character on your Saves. That's the only thing it affects, other then a few characters/events that require having a minimum amount of BP on certain character(s).
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #170 on: June 12, 2010, 01:37:04 PM »
Nope only the 4 frontline members get the BP.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #171 on: June 12, 2010, 01:49:33 PM »
Looks like I'm going to miss some characters :V

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #172 on: June 12, 2010, 01:55:14 PM »
Well in that case, no need to keep asking questions about the Plus Disk content you'll never get to see :V
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #173 on: June 12, 2010, 02:01:07 PM »
Has any of you had any trouble when you got the game?

I helped a friend of mine get it, but when we tried launching it it just goes "poof".
Well, it plays the music, and starts showing the pink background, but then the game just closes.

I tried everything that it told me to do, downloaded the required fonts, installed AppLocale, renamed the folders, moved it to diffrent harddrives... But it doesn't want to work!

Anyone who've had this problem?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #174 on: June 12, 2010, 02:01:43 PM »
I just wanted to see the Cave bosses anyways :V

and how to reach the f10 girl

all switches off and I don't feel like screwing around with 50 stairs at once

EDIT: forget that

also Beast of Centaurea=Pink Sweets

EDIT2: lol f10 girl

her big attack left only China alive, then I paralyzed her for a minute or so with 8f and pulled a 78% buff Master Spark
won on first attempt
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #175 on: June 12, 2010, 04:26:01 PM »
I just wanted to see the Cave bosses anyways :V

and how to reach the f10 girl

all switches off and I don't feel like screwing around with 50 stairs at once

EDIT: forget that

also Beast of Centaurea=Pink Sweets

EDIT2: Ha ha, old chap! f10 girl

her big attack left only China alive, then I paralyzed her for a minute or so with 8f and pulled a 78% buff Master Spark
won on first attempt

8F makes many bosses slightly too easy if one is lucky. Especially after loading her full with ATK to do some real decent damage, too. Also, make sure that if you use 10F on bosses that use Rasetsu Fist, have about 6500+ hp or a backup tank, and either Minoriko or
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P2
ready to heal her should she survive. Haven't played beyond 18F before deciding to say fuck it and do a NG+ game, so I don't know how ill she'll fare beyond 20F. I feel cheap~.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #176 on: June 12, 2010, 04:55:11 PM »
lol floor 12

won by brainless nuking on second attempt

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #177 on: June 12, 2010, 05:20:06 PM »
Ha ha, old chap! floor 12

won by brainless nuking on second attempt

Jerk. I spent a few days worth of grinding and theorycrafting to get me past that. Kept crying blood over the panic-attacks near the end.

Having a bad habit of getting lucky like fuck and able to skip a lot of grinding that way, so I keep falling behind on levels and SKP.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #178 on: June 12, 2010, 06:08:35 PM »
never stopped to grind, just fought what I found along the way

F8 buff+Royal Flare=wtf damage
then I ran out of patchy juice so I put up whatever I had in reserve and won

most of the time I took little or no damage from attacks(except for F9 getting 1 shotted before she got a turn)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 4F
« Reply #179 on: June 12, 2010, 08:36:34 PM »
Defeated
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Kaguya's Foe
in first try.  I thought I was dead from the unexpected fire, but 8F somehow managed to survive, brought out Remilia, and the Gungnir managed to finished it off.  Now, to the 15F girl.