Dwarf Fortress Mafia: Game Over - Town Win

[FinnKaenbyou]

MSB, why have the odds of a bus suddenly jumped from 'improbable' to 'reasonable'?

Vote stays because seriously this is worse than anything I had on Kilga he's basically admitted that Zak probably wasn't bussing Excal and is voting him anyway.

[Carthrat]

@Kilga: A bus is a bus, smashing a vanishing buddy is really not a bad option for various reasons that I guess we don't need to go into much.

I am not really fond of Baity questioning NS here-

Hm. I don't like the word choice. You'll understand why after the question. NS, Answer for me: If either one of the two above mentioned flips scum, does this automatically clear the other person? y/n

-since it feels like playing stupid word games and setting up traps. NS cannot really answer without coming out looking worse no matter what he says here, I think. I'm not really sure how the question will mysteriously resolve any issues on his alignment or anything either despite Baity's promise, it's never that easy. The whole thing seems like a psychological ploy, something where the other guy goes OH GOD HOW DO I ANSWER and ends up looking like a retard because of it. Works on both town and scum!

Apparently Benny thinks he's so townie he's completely scot-free, and this likewise enables him to go through the day without really saying anything! I would beg to differ, in fact I'm not really sure why people think he's so townie in the first place, apart from Zak voting him in the early stages of d1 or something? Am I entirely imagining this apparently clearance? (I do recognize it's highly improbable Zak would be on top of two scumbuddies in one day though, so this doesn't really mesh with a case on Excal.)

I am thinking that Rou is taking word choice somewhat out of proportion. "Reasonable", "Improbable but possible" seem pretty much the same to me. It's not really too different to my thoughts on the subject, since I can clearly see the potential behind a bus based on their interactions and find Excal's prior play scummy enough to warrant voting for, so.

Would prefer to shoot Excal but if that can't happen I'd now prefer to shoot Baity, and I can't say I'm not unsold on a huh-what shot either going by the way the Zaktrain went.

[FinnKaenbyou]

Carth: 'Improbable' comes with connotations of 'not good enough to be worth trying', while 'reasonable' is exactly the opposite.

Benny's claim of 'YOU CAN'T SHOOT ME PEOPLE THINK I'M DERPTOWN' is defensive to the point of being paranoid. Also saying that Kefit may or may not be scummy isn't hunting, isn't even IIoA. It's useless. Have to agree with Pesco's 'more derp than Town' call here.

Carth raises a decent point about Baity. I'll need to give him an ISO sometime later, but the best thing I can remember from him is 'Rou's case on Kilga is biased' without bothering to give any details or reasoning why. Not enough to earn him the wrath of the kitten at this point, but something to examine more closely in later days.

If I had to choose a target for Pesco to shoot today, I'd probably go for Benny. Not contributing, thoroughly defensive, but the odds of derpTown are high enough that I'd rather not take the time to lynch him.

[Serela]

Serela, why are you voting me? You never actually said why you think I'm worse than Sodium even though he was your other choice. Elaborate. Also, regarding your iso on me:
This is mainly misreps. When did I say I was going to vote Kilga (aside from that one jokepost, which was, uh, a joke)? When did I attack Excal? Also don't recall poking Alice either.

On Kilga:It looked serious enough to me.
You go after Excal in your first paragraph here. This is also where you vote Kefit. This may have been the Alice poke I was talking about, but I'm not sure. I think you had been poking Alice for something else in the other one... can't remember... bleh.

I'd elaborate on my vote for you, but I have to go to church really soon and I have more things I want to say. Damn mother making me leave. ;-; For now, there's just the unrefined ISO post.

fuckfuckfuckfiveminutesorless

OKAY BAITY'S QUESTION. Thanks to Carth for defending me, but I don't actually need that since I've got evidence to support my answer not being on-the-spot. To answer Baity's question; no, it doesn't clear the other if one flips scum. I state here that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if both are scum. I have to admit, though, I'll be a little less suspicious; my cases on them just aren't as good if the other is scum.

About the "random ISOs", I think Baity said that? No time to check. I wanted to look at Kilga because a few people were starting to vote him, I wanted to see how I thought about the case. About the Carthrat ISO, I realized I wanted to look at him when he was voting Excal at the start of D2; and now I REALLY want to, because he's STILL voting Excal after many people are finding him very Town, and for good reasons.

Gotta go have birthday funness now. Gonna be back in the afternoon (I have no idea when) to devote more hours of love to everyone! Sorry if I missed anything else addressed to me, mother is getting mad cause we gotta leave :V

[Sodium]

Rou: It's UNLIKELY/IMPROBABLE(<50) that Zak would bus Excal, but I think that there's still a REASONABLE chance that it was a bus, because I can see it happening. Stop picking at stupid things. 


Not going to be available for a couple hours because of family stuff.

[Kilgamayan]

Just woke up and am being pushed out the door, sorry I can't talk about more, combination of lack of time, huh what not really doing anything to make me change my opinion and unsureness regarding how to approach the game given last RL night.

Don't know when I'll be back since we're making Mother's Day rounds, but I'm pretty sure it'll be before deadline.

[Pesco]

Have to agree with Pesco's 'more derp than Town' call here.

Never said he was town. Lots of derp without the obv anything to me.

[Serp]

Putting the game on hold 'till it's determined how we'll proceed after the events of last night.

[Serp]

Alright, show's over, folks.  FAV ragequitted and announced she was scum, and her remaining scumbuddy, huh what, is fine with calling the game here.  Consider this a town win.  You may post your role PMs and discuss the game freely.

[Edible]

See image posted in signup thread for details.

[Benny1]

welp.

You are Samam Shosartum, Wood Cutter!  You're a lumberjack, and you're okay, you sleep all night and you work all day!

You have no extraordinarily useful abilities to bring to bear in this crisis, and that makes you a Vanilla Townie!  You win with the town.  Good luck!

Sorry I played shitty in what could've been an important game.  I was typing up a nice directory of posts but in the end well yeah.  Not gonna play any more mafia, this is not the game for me.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

You are Olum Ethadulzest, Surgeon!  You cut up dwarves for the greater good...  or evil, as the case may be.

Skilled as you are at putting dwarves back together, you're even better at taking them apart.  This makes you the Mafia Hitman!  Once during the game at night, you may ##malpractice one dwarf in place of the team's night kill.  Your kill will then be performed regardless of any preventative roles.  Your partners are FallenAngelVI and Zakeri.  You win when all townies are dead or thrown to the tentacle demons.  Good luck!

Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/QaLQhJYTgnf

Sorry I played shitty in what could've been an important game.

(though to be fair I probably could have survived longer if zak didn't get vigged. gdi)

[Pesco]

Pesco:

You are Kiret Kilruddugan, Cook!  You take the raw meat and plants the fortress brings in and turn them into food.  With the crisis now facing the fortress, you have no qualms at all about taking advantage of that position.

You have obtained a single dose of deadly poison.  This makes you a Town One-Shot Dayvig!  Once in the game, during the daytime phase, you may publicly post in the game thread to ##poison one player.  This ability may not be used on the first day.  It's a lonely responsibility, the power of life and death.  Oh well, at least you can trust your kitten.  You win with the town.  Good luck!

Kitten4u:

You are Kith Eloltatek, Kitten!  You're the feline that adopted the cook.  If he dies, it'll be mildly inconvenient to take care of yourself, so try and advise your dwarf as well as you can.

You may not post in the game thread, vote, use abilities, be targeted by abilities, or do anything else aside from talking with Pesco.  That makes this whole role PM rather pointless, but there you go.  You win with the town.  Good luck!

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Was K4U part of the role or did you request to have a hydra ahead of time?

[FinnKaenbyou]

You are Ilash Kodkordam, Blacksmith!  You forge all the metal knicknacks that make life in the fortress easier, for all the good that skill does you now.

Lacking any deadly or informative abilities, that makes you a Vanilla Townie!  You win with the town.  Good luck!

Just when I'm busy being happy about finally being right on Zak, it turns out that every other suspicion I had was wrong. D: Unless Sodium/Kilga end up being the SK, anyway.

[Kitten4u]

We requested it ahead of time.  I was just going to sit this game out, but Pesco thought the hydra would be fun and I went along with it.

[Serp]

Yeah, Pesco and K4u would've been paired even if Pesco drew another role, or even scum.

[WHMZakeri]

This is dissapointing.
Oh well, I won't delve into reasons.

Also, just guessing, but is Carthrat a paranoid gun owner?

Also, I'm too lazy to repost my PM. It's in the quicktopic if you really care, though.

[Bardiche]

D: Why hadn't you just gotten one of us who stepped out to replace? Even without lynching Furienify I would've loved killing Pesco at night.

I'd even request a little message tacked to his corpse going HOW'S THAT FOR MINDHAX?!

sob sob sob i'll never get my wishes sob sob sob

[Serp]

If FAV would've just asked me to replace her, then yeah, I would've done that, but she actually roleclaimed scum and several players saw it before damage control kicked in.  You'll have to wait for your chance to NK Pesco, sorry.

[Edible]

Gentlemen! I have had a series of revelations.

1. This is screwing with my work. Again.
2. I'm not having fun.  Being scum is boring. Writing long posts is more boring than I remembered.
3. No way in hell I'm returning so I don't give a rat's ass how I leave.
4. Bye!

PS Sorry Alice, I ditched that email address like a year ago.

For anyone who missed it.

See previous statement regarding image posted in signup thread for details.

[WHMZakeri]

I could have replaced in  :derp:

[Serela]

Huh. I was onto FAV, then dropped it after ISO being so-so ;-;

At least I was right about huhwhat

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I'd even request a little message tacked to his corpse going HOW'S THAT FOR MINDHAX?!

I would have bussed you D3 on the basis of that alone

well probably not, but

[Serela]

I could have replaced in  :derp:

And then instant turbolynch :3

[Pesco]

Stop killing me :ohdear:

[Serela]

Stop killing me  :ohdear:

Next game, all scum roles are Zakeri clones  :]

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I like how in MoTK Mafioso Zak got killed twice on the first day/night cycle

[Pesco]

Full setup and role names for the archive please.

[Serp]

Town One-Shot Doc:  Alice Margatroid
Town Soothsayer:  Baity
Town Beloved King:  Carthrat
Town Bodyguard:  Excal
Town Trapper:  Kilgamayan
Town One-Shot BP:  NeoSerela
Town One-Shot Dayvig:  Pesco

Scum Team:
FAV (Rolecop)
huh what (Hitman)
Zakeri (Moodmaker)