Touhou ::smug:: Thread (VIII)

[theshirn]

Finally captured QED without dying as it cleared AAAAAAGH

[Udongein]

Captured ATTWBN in an EoSD Extra clear just now.
QED was just strategic bombspam, ended 0/0 like I always do. 150m points, too, though I have the hitbox patch on. That's fine with me, though, since I only play EoSD for fun nowadays.
Replay if anyone cares

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Hourai Jewel timeout

3 tries if you don't count the hundreds of attempts a long time ago when I was still trying to figure the correct turnaround times.

[Bananamatic]

UFO has one cool thing
extra

got 380m with MarisA

[Formless God]

Except the hitboxes aren't anywhere near as fucked up in the nonUFO games.

My clipdeaths in UFO are because I'm used to the usual hitboxes and that I don't play UFO often because it is a terrible game. I'd rather play Cave's stuff then UFO.

"My clipdeaths in Garegga and DDP are because I'm used to the usual hitboxes and that I don't play them often because they are terrible games. I'd rather play Touhou than those".
Just an example. Now just how wrong does that sound ? Every games plays differently and you have to dwi. Or stop playing.
Also just throwing that out there, I believe the hitboxes haven't changed one bit since MoF.

UFO also breaks the shmup rule that all attacks should be dodgeable assuming the player knows what to do. UFO, like EoSD, can randomly just wall you, and you can do nothing about it.

Walls are harder to dodge than regular patterns, but nowhere close to impossible (in fact nothing is impossible to begin with).

And the power system.

:smug:

Greatest Treasure, Radiant Treasure Gun, not sure about Byakuren as I never fought her on Hard, but I expect even more.

GT is all about positioning. Byakuren takes more skill than your average final boss. And how is RTG luckshit ? It's almost static.

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Hai fellow UFO haters.

[lumber_of_the_beast]

C'mon, guys, this is the :smug: thread. Less QQ, more pewpew.

[チソウ タイゼン]

Looking back in time to dig up another example, there's reaching Patchouli on EoSD Hard.
Not much progress afterwards.

[LHCling]

UFO also breaks the shmup rule that all attacks should be dodgeable assuming the player knows what to do. UFO, like EoSD, can randomly just wall you, and you can do nothing about it.

I... don't know what to say about this.

UFO has one cool thing

I'm right, aren't I?

C'mon, guys, this is the :smug: thread. Less QQ, more pewpew.

This. There's good reason as to why this thread exists. Though I wouldn't say pewpew... actually that's pretty catchy. PewPew!
That said, have a stage run full of sneezing. Despite how many mistakes I actually made at the end. Brownie points for you if you can guess exactly how many times I sneezed during this run.

[Zengeku]

Formless! That power system is crippled. End of story.

Walls are harder to dodge than regular patterns, but nowhere close to impossible (in fact nothing is impossible to begin with).

Unless its a complete wall. Still, its not a question of if something is possible or not. Its more of a question of plausibility. If a spell throws a lot of really fast bullets at you with only a very tiny gap to go through it is very likely that you won't stand a chance even if it is "possible".

GT is all about positioning. Byakuren takes more skill than your average final boss. And how is RTG luckshit ? It's almost static.

Are you consistent on it? What do you know that i don't? GT that is? Also, if RTG is almost static then why aren't YOU consistent at it. I know i used to be but i have lost that ability sadly.

Hai fellow UFO haters.

Hai

[Jaimers]

Managed to get a "decent" CtC lunatic 1cc. Will probably upload it sometime today.
You even get to see all of Reimu's last spells. 

And yes, I'm using the term "see". You'll "see" why.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Doesn't responding to UFO praise posted in this thread with a post in this thread, even if it would normally belong in the other thread, make more sense?

[Bananamatic]

byakuren takes skill

green ufos, instantly bomb 3/4 of the fight

"My clipdeaths in Garegga and DDP are because I'm used to the usual hitboxes and that I don't play them often because they are terrible games. I'd rather play Touhou than those".

i'll quote Rob again

so basically you've got a hitbox with a hitbox, that's just retarded

the bullet should be the fucking hitbox

[Zengar Zombolt]

Capped Repository of Hirokawa, Sumizome Perfect Blossom and Lost Soul's Village all in Hard.
No, not 1cc'd yet. Why do you ask? :V

[theshirn]

gahhhhhhh

Perfect Koishi run until Philosophy.  Never have I done even close to that well.  Then two deaths on Philosophy and one on Rose.

gaaahhhhhhhh

[Drake]

gdi FINALLLLYYYYYY

1cc UFO Hard. This makes all Hard modes 1cc'd across the board. All that's left now are MoF, SA and UFO Lunatic.

[Bananamatic]

gdi FINALLLLYYYYYY

1cc UFO Hard. This makes all Hard modes 1cc'd across the board. All that's left now are MoF, SA and UFO Lunatic.

wait

how can you 1cc EoSD L while I shat on ufo hard

[Zengar Zombolt]

YEAH YEAAAAAAH
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8579
PCB Hard 1cc!
Oh god, I'm still shaking

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

wait

how can you 1cc EoSD L while I shat on ufo hard

It's not just him. Several of us have this problem. I've even said it before that UFO Hard is harder than every other game in the series on Lunatic. The fact that I have EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, and SA Lunatic 1ccs but haven't even gotten close to UFO Hard. Of course, those other games don't randomly bullshit you as much.

[LHCling]

byakuren takes skill

green ufos, instantly bomb 3/4 of the fight

See, and this is why I play UFO for score  :smug:
Because you don't normally get the luxury to bombspam.

Hard 1cc's

[Bananamatic]

Of course, those other games don't randomly bullshit you as much.

if I see that fucking librarian one more time

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Pick ReimuA or MarisaB, and you will love the Patchouli fight. Okay, you still get Water Elf with MarisaB, but it's not that bad.

[Alice★f]

How is that  an easy card? Sure, it's not as hard as everyone says it is, but I wouldn't call the thing easy.

Stage 6 Lunatic Timed-out this card.

And I can't do that for anything else, not even Salamander Shield.

It's got to be easy. ^_^

I will now try to unlock UFO Extra. I will not post here again until I have done so.

[チソウ タイゼン]

Stage 6 Lunatic Timed-out this card.

And I can't do that for anything else, not even Salamander Shield.

It's got to be easy. ^_^

I will now try to unlock UFO Extra. I will not post here again until I have done so.

It won't be that hard. Max out your lives then focus on spell cards.
I used MarisA for piercing laser capibilities.
Nue, when the time comes, has two, count 'em, two, killer cards to watch out for.
Unidentified "Green UFO Invasion of Loyalty"
Unidentified "Rainbow UFO Invasion of Terror"

The rest are either easy, or annoying.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

If that's all it takes for a card to be easy, then Lifespring Infinity and Hourai Jewel are easy even if I can't consistently time either one out. Salamander Shield I just suck at, and the method I use to capture it wouldn't be very smart for a timeout attempt. I've gotten Brilliant Dragon Bullet to under 10 seconds then derped.

[ふねん1]

Tried Koishi for the first time in over a month. I captured Genetics of the Subconscious for the first time.

[Rook]

Shoot the Bullet 5-1 clear YEAAAAAAAAAH

this may seem silly but I have been working on this card off and on for FOREVER and it's about time I capture it

it's an awesome attack, too. really thematic, I love the "punch in the face!" dynamic

[DracoOmega]

It's not just him. Several of us have this problem. I've even said it before that UFO Hard is harder than every other game in the series on Lunatic. The fact that I have EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, and SA Lunatic 1ccs but haven't even gotten close to UFO Hard. Of course, those other games don't randomly bullshit you as much.

I still find this strange. Sure, UFO Hard is harder than the rest of the series on hard, in some ways. (And it took way longer for me to get my 1cc than anything else on hard) But I 1cc'd it long before anything on lunatic (and still have only PCB and IN done), and it still feels easier than most of the games on lunatic (with a few exceptions). I sometimes wonder at the underlying cause of such disparate perceptions of difficulty different people seem to have. Frankly, I've never understood quite the level of dislike so many people seem to have for UFO.

[Zengeku]

if I see that fucking librarian one more time

I got slaugthered by Patchy in my lunatic 1cc of the game and entered stage 5 with 2 lives which was enough for me to pull home a clear. Just be awesome and you'll do fine. After all:

Here's what you said on Lunatic Red. If it is so easy then it should only take 1 shot and you should barely die at all. Get to work.

yeah, even on lunatic

the bullets are slow as hell, the stages are too easy and memorization heavy and the extreme amount of extends makes it even easier

why do people call it an extremely hard game
as a shmup, it fails to deliver any sort of challenge

the only hard things are badly programmed attacks which can be an unavoidable death, weird hitboxes and bad controls

[Formless God]

Are you consistent on it? What do you know that i don't? GT that is? Also, if RTG is almost static then why aren't YOU consistent at it. I know i used to be but i have lost that ability sadly.

I can consistently survive three to four waves on GT and RTG during timeouts, which is more than enough for captures. I think the problem with RTG is that it looks too intimidating, despite being slow as heck.

why do people call it an extremely hard game

Normal-moodo Touhoutards.
Doegin hyphen Style members.

as a shmup, it fails to deliver any sort of challenge
the only hard things are badly programmed attacks which can be an unavoidable death, weird hitboxes and bad controls

How do you explain those WR superplays then ? It isn't like they got lucky and survived every single attacks in the game :3
Can't disagree about Lunatic being easier than many other shmups though, but IIRC ZUN intended this to be a music/patterns showcase in the first place instead of a proper shmup.

P.S. :V at Adauchi's response. Do you even need screenies for the most obvious things ?
(silly wordfilter)

[Bananamatic]

I was trolling, do not take seriously