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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #210 on: May 13, 2010, 11:04:02 PM »
Its been a long time since I've played Fire Emblem so these will probably the first of many questions.  Do bosses have stats that are hugely different from those of enemies and player characters?  Also, if bosses eventually become recruitable, are their levels ever reset or have bosses always joined with whatever ingame stats and levels they had when they were bosses?

Bosses are ussually on par or above Player characters in most cases. And if they become recruitable they can join at lower levels then when they were bosses. Vaida had seperate data entrys as a boss and as a Playable IIRC.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #211 on: May 13, 2010, 11:32:34 PM »
Bosses are ussually on par or above Player characters in most cases. And if they become recruitable they can join at lower levels then when they were bosses. Vaida had seperate data entrys as a boss and as a Playable IIRC.
Nah, that was just the Uberspear stat boosts.

Early on, bosses tend to be substantially weaker.  Later, regardless of class (except Generals) they will have much higher defense and resistance than you might otherwise expect (Generals will have horrible Speed and Resistance no matter what, last chapter aside).  A few plot bosses (Four Fangs, etc.) will have stats comparable to high-level playable units.

And of course you could always pull a Harken and be a recruitable enemy with high stats.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #212 on: May 14, 2010, 01:23:08 AM »
Is it to late for me to join? If not, I would like to be a Sword-user of some sort, cause Swords are cool and stereotypical, but rather then the Myrmidon Dodge tons, Hit tons, Crt plenty and Die when hit, Hit hard, Hit tons Tank Da Melee. Think of a Myrmidon, but with actually decent HP and Def rather then glass-cannon.

If I can see a generic/standard/normal Myrmidon Growth % thingie, I'll change bits around for my liking while of course being within the 300% or w/e it was.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #213 on: May 14, 2010, 01:41:53 AM »
We can still use people... We still need enemy Characters/Cavaliers and some others...

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #214 on: May 14, 2010, 01:55:32 AM »
Think of a Myrmidon, but with actually decent HP and Def rather then glass-cannon.
you and everyone else

I mean geez people, the mercenary class exists for a reason

if that's the build you're looking for, you can live without the extra crit rate, it doesn't fit anyway

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #215 on: May 14, 2010, 02:50:57 AM »
Cavaliers are cool, I don't see why nobody wants to be them :<

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #216 on: May 14, 2010, 02:56:34 AM »
I'll take 'em

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« Reply #217 on: May 14, 2010, 08:00:29 AM »
I don't like horses.

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« Reply #218 on: May 14, 2010, 09:05:39 AM »
Cavaliers are cool, I don't see why nobody wants to be them :<

I'm already on a horse :x

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #219 on: May 14, 2010, 03:16:18 PM »
It's true, cavaliers are solid units.

I mean, look at Sain (FE7)! Franz (FE8)!

Uh... Yeah.

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« Reply #220 on: May 14, 2010, 03:41:00 PM »
Amelia was amazing though :<

Anyway, I was planning on having Sakana as a cavalier too, so this'll make for an even 3!

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« Reply #221 on: May 14, 2010, 03:47:24 PM »
I asked for Myrmidon because all I really know is Archers, Big guys with Axes/Spears, Horse-knights with spears, Pegasus-knights with spears, Myrmidon, Micaiah, Sothe, Lyn, generic bandits with axes, generic mooks with spears or, rarely a sword and finally generic mages with fire books." Of course, of what I listed, aside from unique's, only the Myrmidons have had swords and not been freaking mooks or +9 Generic and thus they died in 1-2 hits anyway, usually 1.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #222 on: May 14, 2010, 03:48:27 PM »
Anyway, I was planning on having Sakana as a cavalier too, so this'll make for an even 3!
Eeeeeehhh?

Well, not that I mind. I did say to use the Librarians for whatever's needed after all. And cavaliers are indeed nice units~

Edit: In other words: A horse is fine too  :V
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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #223 on: May 14, 2010, 04:50:11 PM »
I asked for Myrmidon because all I really know is Archers, Big guys with Axes/Spears, Horse-knights with spears, Pegasus-knights with spears, Myrmidon, Micaiah, Sothe, Lyn, generic bandits with axes, generic mooks with spears or, rarely a sword and finally generic mages with fire books." Of course, of what I listed, aside from unique's, only the Myrmidons have had swords and not been freaking mooks or +9 Generic and thus they died in 1-2 hits anyway, usually 1.
There are always horse-knights with swords, and, once again, mercenaries.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #224 on: May 14, 2010, 04:50:31 PM »
Cavaliers are cool, I don't see why nobody wants to be them :<

Because wyverns are cooler then ponies :V

Spoiler:
But the flying variety are delicious!
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« Reply #225 on: May 14, 2010, 05:02:38 PM »
Because wyverns are cooler then ponies :V

Spoiler:
But the flying variety are delicious!
You're a terrible person. >:<

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #226 on: May 14, 2010, 10:48:08 PM »
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Also, I've been holding off on saying it since it could cause more drama and hecticness, but if you're really strapped for characters, it'd be possible to have multiple submitted by the same MotKer; roleplaying characters, in particular, could be a valid supplement, or just inspiration for other character types involved in the matter.

Err, I also have some story stuff for my character (in relation to Ruro) going through my head, but I'm not sure I should suggest/impose it...
There was something here once. Wonder what...

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #227 on: May 15, 2010, 12:05:14 AM »
Amelia was amazing though :<

Anyway, I was planning on having Sakana as a cavalier too, so this'll make for an even 3!

I refuse to think of Amelia as anything OTHER than a Knight->General


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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #228 on: May 15, 2010, 04:43:07 AM »
I refuse to think of Amelia as anything OTHER than a Knight->General

Truth.

Also, submission entered. I went through and did the best I could with the growths, though my first run was a little ambitious.
I noticed you're lacking a spot for our CON on the stat spreadsheet? Is this intentional?

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« Reply #229 on: May 15, 2010, 04:47:33 AM »
Ok, well I'll be whatever is good with swords. But, I'd like to see those %s for the growths or w/e so I could tweak them for my character. I'll be a Merc, Myrmidon, or Horse-Knight-with-sword or w/e you want, I just want a sword. Heck, if it makes it any easier, you can give me a class that can use swords and spears/axes. I just want the swords *_*

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« Reply #230 on: May 15, 2010, 04:51:22 AM »
Ok, well I'll be whatever is good with swords. But, I'd like to see those %s for the growths or w/e so I could tweak them for my character. I'll be a Merc, Myrmidon, or Horse-Knight-with-sword or w/e you want, I just want a sword. Heck, if it makes it any easier, you can give me a class that can use swords and spears/axes. I just want the swords *_*

I think we just found another Cavalier. They start out able to use Swords and Spears, then promote into Paladins who can use Axes as well. Also they have massive defense and tank eeeeeeverything.

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« Reply #231 on: May 15, 2010, 04:56:59 AM »
I think we just found another Cavalier. They start out able to use Swords and Spears, then promote into Paladins who can use Axes as well. Also they have massive defense and tank eeeeeeverything.

So long as Cavaliers/Paladins have Good HP, ATK and DEF, and ok SPD/SKL. RES and Luck can be nerfed to oblivion if need be. And does ANYONE know what the growth %s are for Cavalier or w/e. I just want to use swords, which shouldn't be a problem now, and to see some %s so I can tweak them to my liking. I hate having generic stats and growths, I wanna tweak them.

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« Reply #232 on: May 15, 2010, 06:35:39 AM »
I think we just found another Cavalier. They start out able to use Swords and Spears, then promote into Paladins who can use Axes as well. Also they have massive defense and tank eeeeeeverything.

Are you sure you're describing Paladins and not Generals?

Paladins are still locked to Swords and Lances.

Great Knights use axes though. :V

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« Reply #233 on: May 15, 2010, 07:01:17 AM »
Are you sure you're describing Paladins and not Generals?

Paladins are still locked to Swords and Lances.

Great Knights use axes though. :V

Um... No? Paladins have axes in FE7. Since each class only has one promotion there, things are a bit different from FE8.

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« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2010, 07:45:11 AM »
Um... No? Paladins have axes in FE7. Since each class only has one promotion there, things are a bit different from FE8.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #235 on: May 15, 2010, 01:22:13 PM »
Great Knights are demonbane. They have like two tons of armor on them, then their Dire Unicorn they ride on has like eight more tons of armor, AND THEN THEY USE AXES.

It's like a g.damned mounted General, but Generals are already bad-ass enough as it is :c

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« Reply #236 on: May 15, 2010, 01:25:43 PM »
I don't like Generals. They don't move far enough.  :<

Anyway, with Tear we now have...3 cavs? Rou, Sakana, and Tear?
Tear is now our Lowen.

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #237 on: May 15, 2010, 05:46:01 PM »
I don't like Generals. They don't move far enough.  :<

Give them a Pair of boots most FE games make at least one obtainable throughout the story and they are best used on Generals (Allowing for a nice 7 move).

If you can get more than 1 pair on them then Ha ha old chap!

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Re: MotK Emblem (FE hack) - IDEAS AND STUFF!!
« Reply #238 on: May 15, 2010, 10:46:12 PM »
I don't like Generals. They don't move far enough.  :<

Anyway, with Tear we now have...3 cavs? Rou, Sakana, and Tear?
Tear is now our Lowen.

Can someone please just give me a % thing of a Cavlier to tweak to my liking allready? I don't care if I'm Lowen, whoever that is, I just want to tweak my frickin % growth thingies.

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« Reply #239 on: May 15, 2010, 11:14:00 PM »
Can someone please just give me a % thing of a Cavlier to tweak to my liking allready? I don't care if I'm Lowen, whoever that is, I just want to tweak my frickin % growth thingies.

I will post some links for reference in a bit.

EDIT:
Heres some and a small description for overall stats
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Lowen - Weaker offenses than other Cav's but has supperior Defensive statistics
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Noah - Weird Cavalier that uses Luck and Skill as his Major Growths (I would not reccomend this style as much)

I would link more but I can't think of other Cavaliers with less typical spreads in FE.
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